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Offline nesi

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[IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.25)
« on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:09:33 »



Hello folks, I'm really happy to share my recent work.

The main idea was to use grey as accents,
so there is no concrete reference for this set, such as an old terminal keyboard, a specific image, or a character.
I’m just a big fan of deep blue… and I hope you like it.
Since I've hungered for a neat Korean(Hangul, exactly)-legend keycap set, there's Hangul kit as an alternative for alphas.
The idea for the layout is from typewriters and Symbolics Lisp Machine.













Here are the colors I've decided so far:
  • alpha base - custom
  • alpha legend - BFM
  • mod base/accent legend - WA
  • accent base - GRY
  • mod legend/more grey base - GSZ
The significant change on color is that the base color of modifier is changed from pure white to pink-like white,
which was one of major ideas from the very beginning phase of the design.


Here are my kits.
If you have any suggestion, pease feel free to post! It would be a great help.



















« Last Edit: Fri, 25 May 2018, 19:15:28 by nesi »

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:40:28 »
I think you have two pics of the same mod kit. Or is it something I'm not seeing?

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:43:40 »
I think you have two pics of the same mod kit. Or is it something I'm not seeing?

Oh, you're right. Just changed the picture with the right one.
Thank you for letting me know :-)

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:44:06 »
Yes please
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:52:10 »
Interested if anything for the Hangul

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Offline hahihuhei

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 08:56:00 »
Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 09:35:11 »
Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 09:44:21 »
Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)

Yeah, about 13$ per person at 100 units. I'm in for one.

Offline jlee755

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 10:10:05 »
Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  :))

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 10:36:43 »
Take my money : )

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[IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 10:59:21 »
I really like it, will it have an r3 grey enter to balance the esc and spacebar?

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:03:48 »
Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  :))
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:12:17 »
This looks pretty beastly. Lovely colour combo.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:18:55 »
I'm in if you are going with signature plastics

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:21:38 »
I love this already. SA is my favourite profile, i like the sublegends and like the colourway too.

Offline nesi

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:55:36 »
Hmm, do we have SA mold for Hangul? Or do we PBT it?

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Unfortunately there is no mold for Hangul, but it would be harder to dye-sub them as the legends are lighter than the base.
We need 26 new molds, but price would be reasonable if there's enough GB participants (at least 100, IMO)

Yeah, about 13$ per person at 100 units. I'm in for one.

Yes. I think it is affordable making in SP.
I'm glad you to see here! I love Oblivion keycaps.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:58:56 »
Oh my heavens, Hangul legends in SA? Yes, please!

SA Hyundai  :))

That makes sense lol
You want SA Kia with red alphas? :))

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 12:01:23 »
I'm in if you are going with signature plastics
I also like SP SA keycap shape, and color that they produce.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 12:59:39 »
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:34:09 »
Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.


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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 14:10:35 »
Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.
Isn't that just DSA Royal Navy?

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 15:14:10 »
Not usually a fan of blue sets but this looks dope.
Color me interested =)

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 15:27:10 »
I just want the Hangul legends to be honest.
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 17:16:05 »
In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 17:17:10 »
im in for this :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 17:51:35 »
This looks really nice.


Most of the mods look white to me, or close to it. And I actually think that looks really good with the blue. It's a great contrast. And mods like that would mix so well with any number of colored alphas from other SA sets. That's something I would very much like to have.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 18:41:48 »
Blue Keycaps in SA are my weakness, would be in for a set with plain alphas (Hangul isn't my thing). Like the white/grey combo on the mods  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:36:07 »
Any possibility for UK-ISO and Icon Arrows? Overall, great design!

Of course I should put ISO kits and icon arrows (with both white and grey).
Thanks for letting me know!

Absolutely! I'm totally in for Hangul - it's about time we had a decent Hangul set! Thanks!!! 

Love the blue - not so crazy about the light grey mods - too stark - almost looks white.
For me - All the mods should be in the darker grey...
The mods that are currently in the darker grey would be great in a contrasting red accent... (Esc, Enter, etc.) 

As regards SP - Please make sure they agree to re-run and fix their legend alignment screw-ups...
I'm so sick of their lack of attention to detail.


Ah, that would be a great idea. I will try renders with a darker one.
Also, I'll put darker grey color chips on my cart :))

I didn't know there's such an issue!
Are those legends tilted or rotated?

In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)

I also love that idea! So we'll have two different modifiers for one alphas :))
At the same time, I'm not sure we could make it happen since modifiers kits are really expensive (more than I expected) and fall sharply in proportion to the number of participants.

Or maybe it would be possible to make "darker grey accent kit" ?

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 00:08:47 »
In for sure. would love to see a "dark grey" kit or just more dark grey, as you mentioned.

Edit: have you considered dark grey mods with light grey accents (enter, spacebar, esc, etc...)

I also love that idea! So we'll have two different modifiers for one alphas :))
At the same time, I'm not sure we could make it happen since modifiers kits are really expensive (more than I expected) and fall sharply in proportion to the number of participants.

Or maybe it would be possible to make "darker grey accent kit" ?
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I'm game for anything with more dark grey! Darker grey accent kit sounds great!


Edit: I suck at quoting.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 01:03:25 »
Interested :) Especially if SP :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 15:54:38 »
I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 22:24:24 »
Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3 :D

Offline nesi

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:04:27 »
I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

That makes sense.
As the main blue of the alphas would be custom color, how about using deep blue like BBI or BFU?
I"m thinking WA as a main white of the modifiers, so the deep blue legends on them would seem darker.
I did some experiment to decide modifiers colors.


custom (same as alphas base)


GSZ (warm dark grey)


BO (lighter blue)


GD (cool light grey)


BFU (darker blue)


All renders are based on color code from https://deskthority.net/wiki/Signature_Plastics_ABS_colours.
Please note that these are just renders with 6500K light, and they may look different under different environment (and also depends on monitors).
At this moment, I think GD looks great with grey accents, whereas GSZ looks calm and BFU looks unique.

Here is a color scheme that I consider provisionally:
  • alphas-base custom
  • alphas-legend BFM
  • modifiers-base WA
  • grey accent-base GRY
  • grey accent-legend WA

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:06:25 »
I like the shade of blue and I really like the light gray.  I would prefer to see the modifiers with the same font color as the main blue on the alphas.  Otherwise it just feels like you've mixed keycaps from two different sets.  The modifiers and the alphas seem to have nothing in common to tie them together.  But then again, using blue text for modifier legends would lose a lot of the gray you have which is coming from modifier text.  I'm watching the IC to see where it goes.

I think the modifiers look exactly fine at this moment. Blue text will make it looks like another ordinary keyset.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:07:26 »
If you do decide to go blue legend on mods then make sure to render them on the darker grey accent mods to see how they look with those.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:14:56 »
Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3 :D

Thanks!
So you want grey 1u backspace along with grey 1u delete? :))

Ah, yes. I should put split spacebar kits, but still making kits moving keycaps one kit to another.
I'll show you after kits are settled!

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:20:35 »
If you do decide to go blue legend on mods then make sure to render them on the darker grey accent mods to see how they look with those.

I think it would be better to keep white legend on accent mods, since the blue color for keycaps is not as bright as white, which may make the accent vague.
But I'll try if I go blue legend and arrange the balance with grey accent if necessary :)) Thanks!

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:22:28 »
Looks cool.
Model M Industrial, SSK, Unicomp 104, Code TKL MX Green, FC660M MX Green + Clear + White + Grey, FC660C Topre 45g, MagicForce 68 USB and Bluetooth, Whitefox, some optical switch 65% Bluetooth split spacebar thing ... wait, I think I need an intervention. Too late, there’s a couple of new Model Fs on the way.
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 02:12:37 »
Second R1 row in grey like R5 Add? That will increase some cost.
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 04:27:57 »
Second R1 row in grey like R5 Add? That will increase some cost.

Do you mean F1~F12 with all grey would be better instead of just adding F5~F8?
(like this kit?)

I'll add that on more grey kit :))

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 05:08:06 »
I mean the whole row below F1. You can check on the SA R5 Add keyset for some ideas. I think some of us might not like it but I find it quite interesting.
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 06:14:53 »
Keep the legend colors as they were. Looks better than any blue.
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Offline nesi

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 10:38:23 »
Hi, just set the colors provisionally, and kit update. :-)

Here are the colors I've decided so far:
  • alpha base - custom
  • alpha legend - BFM
  • mod base/accent legend - WA
  • accent base - GRY
  • mod legend/more grey base - GSZ
The significant change on color is that the base color of modifier is changed from pure white to pink-like white,
which was one of major ideas from the very beginning phase of the design.





Since white and grey look very different under different environment,
I will order color samples to check with my eyes to compare ones that are chosen and others on the bench.



The kits are refined with advice and suggestion from this and other threads. Thank you all!
If you have any suggestion, please post below :)




















Offline nesi

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 10:43:48 »
I'm game for anything with more dark grey! Darker grey accent kit sounds great!


Edit: I suck at quoting.

Any possibility for UK-ISO and Icon Arrows? Overall, great design!

I really like it, will it have an r3 grey enter to balance the esc and spacebar?

Looks lovely to me! I especially love the grey accents for the white mods. I could totally handle more grey too like grey 1u backspace to put next to 1u delete on my number row.

The main thing it's missing for me is a 2.25u and 2.75u keys in grey for my split spacebars. They could be either shift keys, blanks (cheap!) or proper convex mind bars. So long as they're grey and r3 :D

Hey, I've updated new kit reflecting your suggestions :)

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 11:00:26 »
You need dark grey modifiers - (same as "Contrast" grey).

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:05:38 »
I like the white change; it's not as strong on the eyes which I think I like more but I agree in that it'll be important to see the samples for yourself against different backgrounds.

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.16)
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 23:18:59 »
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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.16)
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 11:22:05 »
oh this looks great, id love to pair hangul with some dasher mods

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.16)
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 11:57:01 »
Ortho kit plz plz? <3

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Re: [IC] SA Grey Accent (Colors and Kits updated: 2018.5.16)
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 10:13:32 »
I’m down for a set. I really like SA set, but I hope that SP can properly produce the keycaps without weld lines. The past two SP sets I have purchased had some weld lines in them which is a little frustrating for the price they charge.