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[GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:23:27 »
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The two sets are independent from each other, if one hits 200 sales, the price for it drops to 164.99$. The difference is refunded.

Estimated ship date: October 2018

















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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 22:49:00 »
i couldn't figure it out. when does this run to?

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 23:04:40 »
DCS Toxic was pantone 389c if you like that yellow/green green/yellow color that almost fluctuates based on lighting and whatever else it is next to.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 00:29:54 »
is there a counter for the number of kits sold?
is there a proxy for Asia? 
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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 05:27:06 »
EU proxy is being worked on, China possibly too

DCS Toxic was pantone 389c if you like that yellow/green green/yellow color that almost fluctuates based on lighting and whatever else it is next to.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 05:45:06 »
I'm in !

Just waiting for that EU proxy.  :p

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 06:53:57 »
And already bought !

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 18 May 2018, 07:20:03 »
And already bought !

Thanks for the support! <3

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 21 May 2018, 16:51:46 »
i couldn't figure it out. when does this run to?

When does this group buy end? Mykeyboard and Kono websites do not show any date.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 21 May 2018, 20:56:13 »
A fair chunk pricier than I was expecting :/ I'll still be in, but a bit later when I have the funds...

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 23 May 2018, 00:18:50 »
i couldn't figure it out. when does this run to?

When does this group buy end? Mykeyboard and Kono websites do not show any date.

An excellent question!
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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:27:16 »
Looks like these two sets will happen no matter what, so that's probably why there's no MOQ and why no date is listed. Basically they could keep taking orders up until a few weeks before production starts.

But that's just my speculation. I'm interested in DSA Plague and I am also interested in an answer in order to plan the how to allocate funds.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:44:32 »
Looks like these two sets will happen no matter what, so that's probably why there's no MOQ and why no date is listed. Basically they could keep taking orders up until a few weeks before production starts.

But that's just my speculation. I'm interested in DSA Plague and I am also interested in an answer in order to plan the how to allocate funds.

I think people are in the same boat as you and just want to know when they need to get their orders in by.
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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 10 June 2018, 19:50:51 »
We are still live for a week or two depending on how sales continue. We also dropped the price to 160$ on kono.store!

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 11 June 2018, 03:16:47 »
Still don't really have the funds, but put my order in anyway so I don't miss out! 👌

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague live on kono.store and mykeyboard.eu
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 11 June 2018, 11:00:28 »
Hmm, I would have preferred to know from the start. Now I have two days to decide if I want to cancel GMK Miami Nights and get this or get both and potentially create issues down the line if something else comes up.

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We are still live for a week or two depending on how sales continue. We also dropped the price to 160$ on kono.store!

Will the GB close before the end of the month?
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We are still live for a week or two depending on how sales continue. We also dropped the price to 160$ on kono.store!

Will the GB close before the end of the month?

I don't think so, we'll probs be going 1-2 weeks into July.

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We are still live for a week or two depending on how sales continue. We also dropped the price to 160$ on kono.store!

Will the GB close before the end of the month?

I don't think so, we'll probs be going 1-2 weeks into July.

does the gb time length affect the expected ship date of october?

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Will the price also drop in the EU?!

EU is currently 174 EUR, zFrontier is ~144 EUR and US is ~139 EUR.
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Just got an email from Kono saying my order of this set was cancelled " due to unforeseen circumstances and your payment has been refunded " o_o And now Kono is showing the set as sold out.

What happened there?
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Just got an email from Kono saying my order of this set was cancelled " due to unforeseen circumstances and your payment has been refunded " o_o And now Kono is showing the set as sold out.

What happened there?

Yeah I also got the same message. Sounds like something failed with the group buy.

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None so far from the EU proxy, anxiously waiting for some clarifications.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [Canceled, second try 2019]
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 03:49:04 »
Hey guys. Sorry to bring the bad news, but sales did not meet expectations and we weren't able to reach MOQ even with buying extras for retail. All participants should see a refund in their accounts!

I will not discard this design, but instead try again next year, maybe with a different profile.

Thanks to everyone that joined the GB to try and make it happen! :thumb: It just wasn't enough this time.

Sorry!

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 04:25:01 »
No probs. Would have liked to find out some other way, but hey.

My vote is for SA or XDA next time! :D

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 07:01:53 »
A little bit disappointed as I like the DSA Plague colors. Hope it comes back in DSA profile though. If not at least consider GMK.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 14:37:29 »
How many orders were the buys short?

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 15:22:13 »
Wait a minute. So first the price drops, meaning that somebody committed for plenty of sets to not only reach MOQ but also reach a point where the price dropped. Then the GB is canceled. Is it safe to assume that somebody that has backed the project with a large order decided to no longer support it?

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 17:02:28 »
Wait a minute. So first the price drops, meaning that somebody committed for plenty of sets to not only reach MOQ but also reach a point where the price dropped. Then the GB is canceled. Is it safe to assume that somebody that has backed the project with a large order decided to no longer support it?

No, kono negotiated a better price to help reach MOQ, but it was not successful still.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 19:24:17 »
The price was quiet high as is.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 19:34:19 »
The price was quiet high as is.

I think 165$ was actually pretty good considering it was a full kit with specialties and 40% support, as well as accent spacebars and a lot of novelties with a total of 20 new legends. I will see what others options I might have next year.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 20:19:27 »
Yeah I thought the price was pretty high until I looked at what was actually in the kit. Per key, it was pretty dang reasonable, especially with all the novelties.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 23:05:17 »
The price was quiet high as is.

I think 165$ was actually pretty good considering it was a full kit with specialties and 40% support, as well as accent spacebars and a lot of novelties with a total of 20 new legends. I will see what others options I might have next year.

yeah i thought the price was pretty fair considering the novelties also included. i really wanted to get both but only opted for one. looking forward to this coming back. maybe around the time the new wow expansion drops ;)

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 01:21:02 »
Yeah, the kit was pretty awesome, it had a lot of coverage and the price was decent enough. Well, waiting for a refund from mykeyboard.eu then...

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 02:01:53 »
keyset was nice but two huge turn offs. One the price yea it included everything under the sun. The problem was I didn't need everything under the sun. I only needed a 1.75 shift and TKL I could have filled out the board's I was thinking of using it on.

The other problem was who you ran the US buy thought. I sorry but I am not a fan of Kono my opinion of them is low. They seem to blame other's for there mistake's. They also in my opinion botched Lime allowing it thought with such poor quality control.


I am sure both of these factors played a role in how the kit did. I would say pair down the kits break them up and try finding someone more repeatable to run things. Then try again. perhaps even look at having the key's ran in XDA that is a fun profile thats cheaper specially if you wanted to keep compatibility the same while making it more cost effective. I don't mind paying for everything under the sun when it cost about as much as my basic needs.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 02:12:59 »
I guess it's also a matter of how much you like the colors and/or novelties coupled with your opinion on the profile of the set.

For example I will skip the SA Green Screen since I like it a bit but not as much as to pay the asking price. Plus I find that for me the SA or the MT3 profile work only on flat KBs, anything with an angle and I can't really hit the keys properly.

On the other hand, I really like the DSA profile and the fact that I can use it on KBs with any angle, with or without the feet raised. Also I really liked the neon green of DSA Plague and it's novelties, therefore I was willing to spend the money on it as I knew I will enjoy it. Also I paid more for DSA Hana (direct from SP) and DSA Royal Navy (from GB leftovers) because I really like their looks.

That's why I hope that if this set comes back, it will still be DSA, with Cherry as the second option.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 02:39:23 »
I'm not the hugest fan of DSA. The uniformity is fine, but the keys themselves (from SP anyway, don't have any other DSA sets) are thin and don't feel great to type on as a result. Too tappy, not clacky enough.

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [Canceled, second try 2019]
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 05:05:35 »
Hey guys. Sorry to bring the bad news, but sales did not meet expectations and we weren't able to reach MOQ even with buying extras for retail. All participants should see a refund in their accounts!

I will not discard this design, but instead try again next year, maybe with a different profile.

Thanks to everyone that joined the GB to try and make it happen! :thumb: It just wasn't enough this time.

Sorry!

I dropped out because you only sold full sets. Maybe try breaking it up into kits next time?

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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 17:48:52 »
Sad to see this fail, but also a little excited because there's a chance this will not be made in DSA now.

Personally, I'd much rather have this in any other profile.
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Re: [GB] DSA Arcane & DSA Plague [canceled, 2nd try 2019]
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 23:09:24 »
Iím late to this; however, if both sets are attempted again in DSA, Iíll buy both. Hate to say it, but I believe if both full sets were offered on Mass Drop, they would have been successful....


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