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Offline thelaughingman

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 11 August 2018, 07:09:11 »
Yesterday I got a Novatouch for less than $50. And now I'm tempted to jump in on this round, why are you doing this to me Ryan  :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 12 August 2018, 04:50:14 »
Yesterday I got a Novatouch for less than $50. And now I'm tempted to jump in on this round, why are you doing this to me Ryan  :'( :'( :'(

Hot damn how’d you get one so damn cheap
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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 12 August 2018, 06:50:06 »
Yesterday I got a Novatouch for less than $50. And now I'm tempted to jump in on this round, why are you doing this to me Ryan  :'( :'( :'(

Hot damn how’d you get one so damn cheap

Obviously the previous owner did not know its full value, and it was in a quite sorry state - the plastic case is all scratched up, dirty AF, the guy was a construction engineer so tons of dust and stuff, 2 keys only registered if long-pressed. The only good thing is that it was never opened, all the QC seals and stamps over the screws are in tact. Thus I harvested the sliders for my Norbaforce of course (the top of all the stems have scratches, not sure how, but it's still smooth because only the legs make contact to the housing rails), and put KBDfans ones back in with silence rings and lubed everything. And now it is working perfectly, hence my dilemma of getting or not getting a Norbatouch  :mad:
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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 21:31:59 »
The group buy still live. Thought it would end in July  :rolleyes:
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The group buy still live. Thought it would end in July  :rolleyes:

I ordered a few extras as part of the group buy and figured I would make those available while the order is being manufactured.


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The group buy still live. Thought it would end in July  :rolleyes:

I ordered a few extras as part of the group buy and figured I would make those available while the order is being manufactured.


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So if someone join this gb, and accidentally match with ready stock case that you have right now, will you ship that case or we have to wait for new production?
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The group buy still live. Thought it would end in July  :rolleyes:

I ordered a few extras as part of the group buy and figured I would make those available while the order is being manufactured.


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So if someone join this gb, and accidentally match with ready stock case that you have right now, will you ship that case or we have to wait for new production?

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but the extras I mentioned aren’t in ready stock. They’re just planned extras ordered from the factory as part of the normal GB.

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The group buy still live. Thought it would end in July  :rolleyes:

I ordered a few extras as part of the group buy and figured I would make those available while the order is being manufactured.


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So if someone join this gb, and accidentally match with ready stock case that you have right now, will you ship that case or we have to wait for new production?

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but the extras I mentioned aren’t in ready stock. They’re just planned extras ordered from the factory as part of the normal GB.
Understood now. So the extra is from this round gb. Not from previous round  :)
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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 16 August 2018, 00:26:30 »
What was the estimate of shipping time? I caved, will join this at the end of the month when salary comes  :blank:

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 17 August 2018, 02:55:56 »
I am way too exited, way too soon. Arrgh.
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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 20:17:25 »
Thought I'd share some Enigma Black from round 2 with Red Samurai caps. This case and caps are two, of the very few, purchases I have 0 regrets making.

Despite acquiring many keyboards, of all shapes and sizes, over the years; when serious typing needs to be done, nothing beats my Norbatouch for comfort and satisfaction. You can take it to the office without looking like you got a toy, and it feels so good to use. The subtle texture of enigma makes, running your fingers over the case, almost an erotic feeling. This is from someone who is mostly a buckling spring person; for serious work, I don't need a racket at 3 am - I need the buttery smooth slide of the topre shafts, the sudden collapse of cup rubber and the subtle harshness from the case's hard metal with it's lacey coating...

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It's really hard to do justice to the rich texture of Enigma Black, it's so much more impressive in RL. (Same for Red Samurai's colours.)
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Re: "Norbatouch" Round 3.1415 - CNC cases for Novatouch + Cooler Master TKLs
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 22:52:43 »
almost an erotic feeling.

Haha. Now that is quite an endorsement! Thanks for sharing this awesome feedback, and the kind words. :)

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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 12:50:40 »
shapes and sizes...beats...feels so good...erotic...shafts...hard...

I concur. Sometimes, I stroke my Norbatouch cases.

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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 04:14:27 »
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Need i say more? I also bought a gray case but it got lost in the mail. welp  :(
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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 10:46:14 »
Need i say more? I also bought a gray case but it got lost in the mail. welp  :(

Love that blue.

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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 08:22:39 »
I just got my hands on a Novatouch in mint conditions and are looking into potential upgrades.
I'm not sure if this is the place for questions, if not please let me know where.

1) What's the sound characteristics compared to the stock case?
2) Will I notice any difference while typing or is it just a cosmetic upgrade?
3) Does it add any extra support for the pcb?

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« Reply #66 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 23:57:39 »
Ryan, did the "pi" symbol I suggested make its way into the design somewhere (and could we see it) or are you going for a surprise on mail day?

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 04:39:22 »
Norb, you are like the high level badass in a video game, everyone admires with their shining steel and sweet horse. Just scored a novatouch on mechmarket and I just wanna say, thank you so much for keeping the Norbatouch GB open past the date posted here. Love you.
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« Reply #68 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:06:12 »
are the anodized ones soon to be done manufacturing?

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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:09:19 »
Ryan, did the "pi" symbol I suggested make its way into the design somewhere (and could we see it) or are you going for a surprise on mail day?

Yes, I added it to the back where it's hidden during normal use. I was intending it to be a bit of surprise, so I'll leave the actual implementation to be seen when the cases show up, but I spent a lot of time trying to find a Pi glyph that I particularly liked. I ended up taking one from an existing font and then massaging it a bit in Illustrator myself. :)

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« Reply #70 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:09:39 »
are the anodized ones soon to be done manufacturing?

The machining is complete, but there are plenty of other steps to getting these ready—and thus plenty of more waiting—left. :)

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 16:26:49 »
aww shucks the waiting game is no fun to play  :eek: :cool:

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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 04:13:40 »
I just got my hands on a Novatouch in mint conditions and are looking into potential upgrades.
I'm not sure if this is the place for questions, if not please let me know where.

1) What's the sound characteristics compared to the stock case?
2) Will I notice any difference while typing or is it just a cosmetic upgrade?
3) Does it add any extra support for the pcb?
1. Deeper thock. Just search youtube video on typing sound.
2. Any alu case for any keyboard consider as an improvement because eliminates plastic case rattling/ keystroke feel sharp and make typing sound more audible.
3. This case is design for this cm novatouch thus it perfectly fit. Not sure what you means  :)
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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 19 September 2018, 16:56:23 »
Venice Laaaaaaser!

Holy cow this is vibrant! It's hard to capture in my office lighting though (sun light + florescents)

Norbauer, the finish quality on the case is nothing short of stellar! Perfect 10. Bravo!

Perfect match with Laser and MasterKeys Pro S RGB. Using that "laser" effect. As I type, the LED's snap on, then fade to off:

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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 21 September 2018, 18:08:40 »
Venice Laaaaaaser!

Holy cow this is vibrant! It's hard to capture in my office lighting though (sun light + florescents)

Norbauer, the finish quality on the case is nothing short of stellar! Perfect 10. Bravo!

Perfect patch with Laser and MasterKeys Pro S RGB. Using that "laser" effect. As I type, the LED's snap on, then fade to off:

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Thank you for another amazing review, autobot! This finish/keycap combo is an all-time favorite of mine. Thanks for sharing this! :D

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« Reply #75 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 06:09:38 »
I was gonna join this round but then I got this  :p :p :p

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« Reply #76 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 06:19:03 »
I was gonna join this round but then I got this  :p :p :p

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run it in why don't you?  :eek: :-\ ;D

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« Reply #77 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 09:33:13 »
I was gonna join this round but then I got this  :p :p :p

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run it in why don't you?  :eek: :-\ ;D

if you've got it, flaunt it  ;D ;D ;D

also as of this moment, only Aerospace aluminium and Enigma Gray options are available so it seems like Ryan's planned extra are running out soon. Get in while you can people, this is the last round already  :eek:

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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 09:45:46 »
I was gonna join this round but then I got this  :p :p :p

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run it in why don't you?  :eek: :-\ ;D

haha i got the tactical black...couldnt justify enigma grey to myself.
if you've got it, flaunt it  ;D ;D ;D

also as of this moment, only Aerospace aluminium and Enigma Gray options are available so it seems like Ryan's planned extra are running out soon. Get in while you can people, this is the last round already  :eek:

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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 29 September 2018, 10:18:14 »

haha i got the tactical black...couldnt justify enigma grey to myself.


I've got Tactical Black for my Norbaforce, very smooth and nice to touch. I think you'll love it  :thumb:

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« Reply #80 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 16:58:17 »
Quick update. Machining is complete on these and they're just now working on finishing. They had a few issues with anodizing on the clear parts and are re-running a few of those, so still a few weeks left on production, I'd guess.

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« Reply #81 on: Mon, 29 October 2018, 11:50:21 »
@ryan any further updates?

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« Reply #82 on: Mon, 29 October 2018, 12:30:58 »
@ryan any further updates?

Same as before, but I do have a more precise timeline now. They expect to have the refinishing complete by the end of November, since they're actually re-making some of the cases from scratch in order to meet my (somewhat rigorous) anodizing cosmetic finish standards. That still leaves plenty of time to ship within my stated time frame, but it's nonetheless behind what I was hoping for (i.e., to ship early). This is why I leave plenty of buffer relative to what the factories originally promise. I don't think I've yet ever had a factory ship machined parts exactly on the originally-promised timeline.

After the manufacturing is complete in November, there are still several downstream steps, so shipping of anodized cases is likely to occur in December at some point and then powder in January (a or a bit later for powder, given the holiday shutdowns).

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 12:40:49 »
thanks! it feels infinitely better to have a more concrete date  ;D

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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 11 November 2018, 02:47:30 »
Hey Ryan, I saw that there were a lot of rejects with glossy powdercoats for the norbaforce GB and that it could potentially affect this GB because it's too expensive to keep it up and is a huge pain.

What's the situation looking like?

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« Reply #85 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 00:29:14 »
Hey Ryan, I saw that there were a lot of rejects with glossy powdercoats for the norbaforce GB and that it could potentially affect this GB because it's too expensive to keep it up and is a huge pain.

What's the situation looking like?

Yes, I'm going to talk to the powder shop this week and see if it'll be possible to get the exact same color but with a matte finish. If I decide to make that switch to get better surface finish quality control, I'll send an email to affected folks and ask them if they want to stay with matte Retro, to switch to another finish, or to cancel.

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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 02:37:59 »
Hey Ryan, I saw that there were a lot of rejects with glossy powdercoats for the norbaforce GB and that it could potentially affect this GB because it's too expensive to keep it up and is a huge pain.

What's the situation looking like?

Yes, I'm going to talk to the powder shop this week and see if it'll be possible to get the exact same color but with a matte finish. If I decide to make that switch to get better surface finish quality control, I'll send an email to affected folks and ask them if they want to stay with matte Retro, to switch to another finish, or to cancel.

Will this affect Retro Refrigerator only or all glossy powdercoats? Personally, I'm okay with the switch to matte (Astro Purple). I'm just curious, is all. Thanks!

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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 10:32:38 »
Will this affect Retro Refrigerator only or all glossy powdercoats? Personally, I'm okay with the switch to matte (Astro Purple). I'm just curious, is all. Thanks!

No. Only Retro Refrigerator and Venice Beach. Those two are particularly difficult finishes to apply, apparently, and the gloss exacerbates the problem. The purples all came out perfect in the Norbaforce batch.

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 12 November 2018, 18:20:12 »
Will this affect Retro Refrigerator only or all glossy powdercoats? Personally, I'm okay with the switch to matte (Astro Purple). I'm just curious, is all. Thanks!

No. Only Retro Refrigerator and Venice Beach. Those two are particularly difficult finishes to apply, apparently, and the gloss exacerbates the problem. The purples all came out perfect in the Norbaforce batch.

Sounds good. Thanks for the quick replies!
Though, it is a shame I won't be able to get a glossy Venice beach in the R2 Force run but a matte version would still be appreciated if you run that color :)

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 04 December 2018, 21:54:47 »
Hi all. I just wanted to provide an update that production is now complete and assembly and inspection is occurring next week.

For fun, here is an image of what the laser engraving process looked like:


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Re: "Norbatouch" Round 3.1415 - CNC cases for Novatouch + Cooler Master TKLs
« Reply #90 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 05:25:09 »
Any update on venice beach and retro color?
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« Reply #91 on: Wed, 05 December 2018, 12:14:59 »
Any update on venice beach and retro color?

I actually spent four hours driving on Monday to visit the powder coating facility out out on the other side of the Bay, and we met for quite a long time sifting through various ways of ensuring the highest possible QC, and they agreed with me that a switch from the glossy Venice and Retro finishes to a more matte version is our best bet to address the coverage and non-uniformity issues I've been seeing on the gloss versions of those colors (and which I have rejected rather than shipping to GB participants.) The result of this is that we're conducting an experiment next week where they'll strip and re-shoot 20 Norbatouch housings with flat Retro that had cosmetic problems in the glossy version of the same finish. If the reject rate is much lower, as they suggest it might be, I'll notify people who ordered those colors and ask them if they're cool switching to matte. If the reject rate is still high, I'll cancel the orders and/or give people the opportunity to switch to a texture finish.

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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 09:10:46 »
Nice. Thanks for the update.  :thumb:
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« Reply #93 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:01:49 »
Will there be photos for the matte Retro finish when the experiment done? :p
Thanks for the info btw~

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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 10 December 2018, 11:45:47 »
Thanks for all the updates Ryan! I'm really looking forward to my case. Are you making a "behind the scenes" photo album or video to post after? I'm sure we'd all love to see the gritty details.