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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:18:50 »
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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:20:06 »
Wait, why icon mods for bone and standard mods for Carbon?
It was answered with this:

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Yes the reason is quite simple. Designwise its better to use only icon style on high contrast (beige/gray) and text + icon on lower contrasts(orange/gray). Ofcourse i am trying also to provide more choices and reach out to people with different taste.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:21:08 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:26:37 »
- Definitely Spacebar kit (need some confirmations in order to make it)
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- Definitely a kit with some usefull extra keys like vertical function keys.
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time to design a board with vertical function keys, I guess  ;D

and sorry for... eh... nitpicking but this just bother me
Keep in mind i am using modern row notation. Afaik in cherry dicumentation the rows are called (from left to right): F, E, D, C, B, A


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:36:02 »

Absolutely. Best carbon layout ever, perfectly for a WKL TKL. Once I started using OG Cherry caps with the full 1-5 row layouts I fell in love. Fully sculpted cherry is like a fine wine.

Btw, WKL TKL is fun to say without the vowels.


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 20:47:23 »
Wait, why icon mods for bone and standard mods for Carbon?
It was answered with this:

Yes the reason is quite simple. Designwise its better to use only icon style on high contrast (beige/gray) and text + icon on lower contrasts(orange/gray). Ofcourse i am trying also to provide more choices and reach out to people with different taste.
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Ah, missed that, thanks.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:11:53 »
R5 sounds good.  A lot of fans and lots of actual usage from R5 WKL sets.

What about R0?  Seems pretty rare even on vintage sets.  Iris set had those and heard some complaints that they were really high and awkward.  Anyone have feedback from usage?

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:17:14 »
would join for bone modifier and rolling bones !!
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:19:04 »
hi, you are get my support as always.
I just don't know why ,in bone base kit, icon are only for "capslock",left"shift",right"shift" and "enter" and text for "alt" and "ctrl"? May be just your preference.
For me, icon or text or mixed are good for me , I have no preference. I think only icons will be consistent.
BTW, if you have chosen icons for bone base kit modifers, is there any chance that add more icons for "pgdn" and "pgup".As I know, GMK have moulds for those icons.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:47:04 »
Bone Base and Boneyard alphas got me like  :eek: but at the same time, icon mods on the Bone Base got me like  :'(

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 21:54:56 »
Oh man, been waiting for this. I'll take all of the above

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 22:31:02 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 22:39:26 »
hi, you are get my support as always.
I just don't know why ,in bone base kit, icon are only for "capslock",left"shift",right"shift" and "enter" and text for "alt" and "ctrl"? May be just your preference.
For me, icon or text or mixed are good for me , I have no preference. I think only icons will be consistent.
BTW, if you have chosen icons for bone base kit modifers, is there any chance that add more icons for "pgdn" and "pgup".As I know, GMK have moulds for those icons.

just as
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My thought on this is that he's going for the 9009/Muted styling vs. all icons. the 9009 style is much better imo

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 22:44:52 »
I like carbon bone more
I will buy it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 00:09:36 »
hi, you are get my support as always.
I just don't know why ,in bone base kit, icon are only for "capslock",left"shift",right"shift" and "enter" and text for "alt" and "ctrl"? May be just your preference.
For me, icon or text or mixed are good for me , I have no preference. I think only icons will be consistent.
BTW, if you have chosen icons for bone base kit modifers, is there any chance that add more icons for "pgdn" and "pgup".As I know, GMK have moulds for those icons.

just as
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I personaly prefer OG Style (Bone base kit) Icon implementation. Tho in the last lines of my first post you will find todo list and it has icon mod extension for Bone which will include the keys you mention.

Wait, why icon mods for bone and standard mods for Carbon?
It was answered with this:

Yes the reason is quite simple. Designwise its better to use only icon style on high contrast (beige/gray) and text + icon on lower contrasts(orange/gray). Ofcourse i am trying also to provide more choices and reach out to people with different taste.
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Ah, missed that, thanks.
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Maybe i should make an FAQ section haha.

My only suggestion (made it in Slack as well) is to change the Num/Scroll Lock legends to the ones from TA:

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At least on the bone set.

I mentioned a kit with extra key previously with vertical function keys. I think such key and also led window keys belong there. I got specific standards for base kits but i am really looking into a kit for unusual from my perspective keys.

R5 sounds good.  A lot of fans and lots of actual usage from R5 WKL sets.

What about R0?  Seems pretty rare even on vintage sets.  Iris set had those and heard some complaints that they were really high and awkward.  Anyone have feedback from usage?
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I've seen r0 on meetup. So far i cant say anything negative about it. Also those are function keys which have rare use.






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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 00:30:44 »
some suggestions to include in the possible 40% kit:

R2 1u back space, R2 2u backspace, R3 1.25 tab, R3 1.75 enter.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:16:34 »
Going to buy for sure.

Something that I would tweak is that chemical symbol "C" have a larger C and smaller numbers.  I'm not saying that the proportions of it have to be like SA Carbon, but I feel that it would look better if adjusted a little bit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:59:50 »
I've just noticed the novelties in the "Beezarre" kit and they are amazing and now I'm conflicted cause there's no good way to get them without buying an entire orange alphas kit when I really prefer Carbone :|

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:06:45 »
Dang Iíve been waiting for this


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:44:10 »
ALT GR?

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 04:16:40 »
Spacebar kit would definitely nice, specially if you decide to offer 40% kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 04:25:49 »
some suggestions to include in the possible 40% kit:

R2 1u back space, R2 2u backspace, R3 1.25 tab, R3 1.75 enter.
I agree completely!

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 05:02:32 »
I've seen r0 on meetup. So far i cant say anything negative about it. Also those are function keys which have rare use.
Also R0 should be better for layouts without spacing between the number row and the function row, like 75% boards.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 05:50:12 »
...getting useful and constructive feedback for the upcomming drop.


I own a pretty complete ISO TKL Carbon SA Round 2 (9 kits). Not a big fan of GMK but the R0-R5 business caught my attention. Not committing to buy at this point (my original plan was to get Nuntucket Selectric GMK) but based on new color combos it looks interesting. Carbon theme with bone colors is very tempting.

So saying that, my feedback/requests are the following:

1) Please, some way of putting honeycomb pattern on ISO TKL, please, please!
2) White on gray (boneyard) R0-R5 lambda keys? It's crazy big already anyway!
3) Given the popularity of Carbon how many NORDEUK colors will there be?


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 05:54:18 »
...also some unuseful and nonconstructive feedback: how about Carbon Cadet? It doesn't look like Red Cadet (when talking about unusual colour schemes for Space Cadet) is happening but also there shouldn't be too much conflict of interest. And unlike hiragana it sort of matches the mood IMHO.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 06:15:50 »
It doesn't look like Red Cadet (when talking about unusual colour schemes for Space Cadet) is happening


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 06:22:14 »
It doesn't look like Red Cadet (when talking about unusual colour schemes for Space Cadet) is happening

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 07:20:51 »
Bone base kit wins it this time for me, definitely!

hi, you are get my support as always.
I just don't know why ,in bone base kit, icon are only for "capslock",left"shift",right"shift" and "enter" and text for "alt" and "ctrl"? May be just your preference.
For me, icon or text or mixed are good for me , I have no preference. I think only icons will be consistent.
BTW, if you have chosen icons for bone base kit modifers, is there any chance that add more icons for "pgdn" and "pgup".As I know, GMK have moulds for those icons.

just as
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YES! I'd love for the nav cluster to be Icon only too and so it is consistent with the other mods being Icon only. And a separate LED-windowed kits would be cool too!

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 07:53:54 »
I would HATE to see icons only for page up etc. Those things are SO ugly imho. Will not buy if those caps are icons :P

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:01:53 »


Nav cluster was text on the old boards that t0m is trying to imitate. I don't think icons outside regular mods are considered here.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:02:00 »
Ugh, I've been waiting to see when GMK carbon shows up again telling myself I probably wouldn't buy it but since it's R0/R5 I really can't resist. Might have to skip on space cadet.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:15:18 »
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Nav cluster was text on the old boards that t0m is trying to imitate. I don't think icons outside regular mods are considered here.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:16:30 »
About the nice beezarre and boneyard alphas, I suggest to add ISO compatibility by adding one r4 key (<> ) and one r3 key (#).
By removing the artisans and by adding instead f1-f4 and f9-f12, you'll have the same price, but you'll drastically widen your sales. I'd buy that. I'd like to have bars on fj, but you can't have everything.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:36:41 »
About the nice beezarre and boneyard alphas, I suggest to add ISO compatibility by adding one r4 key (<> ) and one r3 key (#).
By removing the artisans and by adding instead f1-f4 and f9-f12, you'll have the same price, but you'll drastically widen your sales. I'd buy that. I'd like to have bars on fj, but you can't have everything.

I very highly doubt that would widen sales. Removing the novelties that are exclusive to those alphas very well may cripple sales.

If anything, an additional ISO kit should be added and the kits should be left just how they are.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:50:32 »
well, looks like im spending money on carbon four GBs in a row...


any eta? I'm hoping for some breathing time between GBs or I'm gonna starve ;)

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:59:32 »
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There's a small mistake in the iso keys, since R3 and R4 are identical while they shoudn't.... I'd stay with a <> on R4 and with #on R3
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:32:54 »
There's a small mistake in the iso keys, since R3 and R4 are identical while they shoudn't.... I'd stay with a <> on R3

That's by design iirc. Backslash on R3 is more congruent for using ANSI mapping on an ISO board. <> are usually put on the R4 key similar to ISO-DE. (similar to how it was done on the first round of GMK carbon)
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:33:00 »
There's a small mistake in the iso keys, since R3 and R4 are identical while they shoudn't.... I'd stay with a <> on R3


you mean <> on R4, right?

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:45:05 »
love to see it!
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:48:59 »
Happy to see Carbon return  :))
I definitely buy it

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 10:47:53 »
There's a small mistake in the iso keys, since R3 and R4 are identical while they shoudn't.... I'd stay with a <> on R3


you mean <> on R4, right?

Yeah, thanks for the correction. And on R3 a # would be better.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:10:59 »
I've just noticed the novelties in the "Beezarre" kit and they are amazing and now I'm conflicted cause there's no good way to get them without buying an entire orange alphas kit when I really prefer Carbone :|

Sugar keys (kit related novelties) will stay as they are, because they build up on the theme of the particular kit. They are there to grand a unique key/keys for kit purchaser.

some suggestions to include in the possible 40% kit:

R2 1u back space, R2 2u backspace, R3 1.25 tab, R3 1.75 enter.

I will look into it.

Going to buy for sure.

Something that I would tweak is that chemical symbol "C" have a larger C and smaller numbers.  I'm not saying that the proportions of it have to be like SA Carbon, but I feel that it would look better if adjusted a little bit.

C must have the same size as alphas. I will scale the numbers little bit down.

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I'll look into it but if then only in a kit with extra keys. Base sets are already huge.

...getting useful and constructive feedback for the upcomming drop.


I own a pretty complete ISO TKL Carbon SA Round 2 (9 kits). Not a big fan of GMK but the R0-R5 business caught my attention. Not committing to buy at this point (my original plan was to get Nuntucket Selectric GMK) but based on new color combos it looks interesting. Carbon theme with bone colors is very tempting.

So saying that, my feedback/requests are the following:

1) Please, some way of putting honeycomb pattern on ISO TKL, please, please!
2) White on gray (boneyard) R0-R5 lambda keys? It's crazy big already anyway!
3) Given the popularity of Carbon how many NORDEUK colors will there be?



1) Is not possible. I tried it already and i dont like it. The shape of iso enter is meh for honeycumb.
2) Will add R 0,1,2,3,4,5 as it supposed to be. I just forgot to make it. Thanks for pointing this out.
3) There will be only beige NORDEUK because even extremly popular sets like Nautilus or Lazer do sell ISO sets barely.


YES! I'd love for the nav cluster to be Icon only too and so it is consistent with the other mods being Icon only. And a separate LED-windowed kits would be cool too!


Only in an icon specific kit which will definitely come. Bone Base kit will stay OG Icon.

About the nice beezarre and boneyard alphas, I suggest to add ISO compatibility by adding one r4 key (<> ) and one r3 key (#).
By removing the artisans and by adding instead f1-f4 and f9-f12, you'll have the same price, but you'll drastically widen your sales. I'd buy that. I'd like to have bars on fj, but you can't have everything.

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There's a small mistake in the iso keys, since R3 and R4 are identical while they shoudn't.... I'd stay with a <> on R4 and with #on R3

The backslash pipe keys are filler keys and are intentionally there and they will be also added to the beezarre and bonyard alphas. I just forgot to add these during setup  :)) . Thanks for pointing this out ;) . The key <> you want will be a part of NORDEUK kit.

The sugar keys will stay as they are to make those kits sweet  :D .


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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:15:28 »
Might have to skip on space cadet.

Dont do that. You will cry every night if you do that.  :))

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:18:40 »
Might have to skip on space cadet.

Dont do that. You will cry every night if you do that.  :))

This. There should be at least two months between Space Cadet GB ending and Carbon R2 launching, so there should be some time to gather funds. And now I feel like a drug dealer.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:26:48 »
Space Cadet, Carbon r2 and Skidata are the must haves for the remainder of the year of what's announced, at least. Passing on Space Cadet (or any of them, if you don't already own the latter 2) is a guaranteed mistake.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:48:43 »
YES! I'd love for the nav cluster to be Icon only too and so it is consistent with the other mods being Icon only. And a separate LED-windowed kits would be cool too!
Only in an icon specific kit which will definitely come. Bone Base kit will stay OG Icon.

Nice  :thumb: would such icon specific kit also has the Yuri icon bottom row?

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:51:22 »
YES! I'd love for the nav cluster to be Icon only too and so it is consistent with the other mods being Icon only. And a separate LED-windowed kits would be cool too!
Only in an icon specific kit which will definitely come. Bone Base kit will stay OG Icon.

Nice  :thumb: would such icon specific kit also has the Yuri icon bottom row?

Sure thats the porpose of that kit. Tho it will be only compatible with the bone base kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 11:55:26 »
In, need more carbon

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon R2
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 12:18:57 »
I love the new Bone sets.  I wish there was support for a centered stem stepped capslock key in the rolling bones for those of us that love standard basic layouts. Still, Iím in for at least most the Bone sets. Great start!

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« Reply #99 on: Fri, 06 July 2018, 12:23:29 »
I love the new Bone sets.  I wish there was support for a centered stem stepped capslock key in the rolling bones for those of us that love standard basic layouts. Still, Iím in for at least most the Bone sets. Great start!

It's on the right side, might be a little confusing as people assume that's where the Return key is, but the size is listed as 1.75u Nevermind I thought you ment regular capslock. I'm not sure if GMK even does centered stepped