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[GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:15:46 »
Hello fellow keyboard nerds.

I've announced my housing for the Leopold FC660c, called the Heavy-6, in other places online, but the design grew out of a GeekHack IC thread, and some folks here have suggested I should list it as a proper GH GB as well, which I'm happy to do. (When it comes to keyboard communities, I'm more than happy to be polyamorous.) I'll endeavor to keep all the GB threads in various places updated as progress occurs and items ship, but as ever, the best way to stay in touch with what I'm doing (especially new projects) is on my email list.



The Heavy-6 is so named because its all-steel backplate acts as a weight, nearly doubling the heft of the aluminum upper housing—to four pounds with the keyboard installed. And for the high rollers, also by popular demand, I’ve even made an all-steel version, suitable for both self-defense and data-entry purposes, which weighs in at an astounding 7 pounds.

In general, I've tried to offer a more artistically-curated set of limited finishes and options this time around compared to previous group buys (which were considerably more promiscuous in the finishes department). Here is a sampling of the range.











Here are some specs:



I've also designed and am offering an optional California-made custom padded tactical carry bag, specifically made to fit the Heavy-6.







There is lots more info in the GB page, but I'm also very happy to answer any and all questions here. My current plan is to end the group buy this weekend (13 October). The orders are slated to ship in the late winter, with the textured powder coat options shipping 1-2 months after the anodized and PVD finishes.
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Re: the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:27:45 »
Approved  :) Please update the OP with the timeline you have on your website!

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Re: the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:31:47 »
Approved  :) Please update the OP with the timeline you have on your website!

Done. Thanks for catching that! It's getting hard to remember what I've posted where these days. :)

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:46:42 »
What would be the price of the Monolith without any coating?

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 13:52:21 »
What would be the price of the Monolith without any coating?

Hmm. I'm not really sure. I would guess basically the same, actually. The PVD coating is very expensive, but I got my pricing by committing to a certain number and reducing that by one probably wouldn't save me any meaningful amount. (PVD pricing is usually by the chamber-full.)

I do, however, actually have a steel prototype with some cosmetic defects in the PVD coating, which would be entirely covered by any coating or other finishing process. I was going to get that powder coated, but I could sell that one to you now at a slight discount (email shop@norbauer.com if interested) if that would suit whatever you had in mind. But really on the Monolith, all the (relative) cost is really in the machine time on the parts, not the finishing process.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 09:50:41 »
Quick update: by request, I've added a black anodized option for those folks who feel that black that it is a better complement to the stock FC660C keycap colors but don't have the required fortune to acquire the Monolith version. :)

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 14:11:48 »
Quick update: by request, I've added a black anodized option for those folks who feel that black that it is a better complement to the stock FC660C keycap colors but don't have the required fortune to acquire the Monolith version. :)

Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 14:41:53 »
Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red
But purple is the color of royalty

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 15:05:24 »
Quick update: by request, I've added a black anodized option for those folks who feel that black that it is a better complement to the stock FC660C keycap colors but don't have the required fortune to acquire the Monolith version. :)

Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red

Sadly, I'm afraid not. I'm actually currently in a tug-of-war with the badge maker as it is, because they want really high per-color MOQs, and I need four colors of the same design but low quantities (by their standards). And I don't suspect that asking them to add a one-off color would help my case. :) Sorry about that. I wish I could offer a wider array of badge colors myself, but I just tried to pick ones that would complement the color options available as best I could.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 04:41:40 »
Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red
But purple is the color of royalty

Well I have a full set of HotKeysProject Black Maroon
205307-0

And I kinda have no options here :))

Quick update: by request, I've added a black anodized option for those folks who feel that black that it is a better complement to the stock FC660C keycap colors but don't have the required fortune to acquire the Monolith version. :)

Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red

Sadly, I'm afraid not. I'm actually currently in a tug-of-war with the badge maker as it is, because they want really high per-color MOQs, and I need four colors of the same design but low quantities (by their standards). And I don't suspect that asking them to add a one-off color would help my case. :) Sorry about that. I wish I could offer a wider array of badge colors myself, but I just tried to pick ones that would complement the color options available as best I could.

Ok but then is it possible to purchase an extra Red logo from motorsport for my monolith? I sincerely apologize for my OCD, sry for double post
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 October 2018, 08:20:05 by alisonica »

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 08:54:18 »
Ryan, what are the internal dimensions of the bag? I'm curious to see if it will fit a TGR-Alice too...

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 10:22:22 »
Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red
But purple is the color of royalty

Well I have a full set of HotKeysProject Black Maroon
(Attachment Link)

And I kinda have no options here :))

Quick update: by request, I've added a black anodized option for those folks who feel that black that it is a better complement to the stock FC660C keycap colors but don't have the required fortune to acquire the Monolith version. :)

Is it possible to change the color of the logo on the monolith? to Maroon red

Sadly, I'm afraid not. I'm actually currently in a tug-of-war with the badge maker as it is, because they want really high per-color MOQs, and I need four colors of the same design but low quantities (by their standards). And I don't suspect that asking them to add a one-off color would help my case. :) Sorry about that. I wish I could offer a wider array of badge colors myself, but I just tried to pick ones that would complement the color options available as best I could.

Ok but then is it possible to purchase an extra Red logo from motorsport for my monolith? I sincerely apologize for my OCD, sry for double post

Oh, yeah. Totally. I'm happy to send you one for free, but would just ask you to remind me when the final cases are shipping, as I don't really have a way to track logo badges that I need to ship apart from the keyboards. :)

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 10:33:03 »
Ryan, what are the internal dimensions of the bag? I'm curious to see if it will fit a TGR-Alice too...

I actually don't have the bag sample right now (Huey from TopClack wanted it to do a review) and unfortunately won't have it back until after the GB is closed. The workshop actually built their patterns off of a physical Heavy-6 prototype and not numerical specs, so believe it or not, I don't actually have the internal dimensions documented. =\ From memory and looking at/measuring my Heavy-6 right now, my guess might be something 37cm x 15cm x 4.5cm. We built it with a bit of wiggle room to make it easy to get the back in and out (i.e., not too form-fitting), so there may be slightly more room in the bag, but I think these are safe numbers.

I hope this helps, but just let me know if I can answer any other questions or be of any other assistance.l

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 13:00:10 »
Hey Norb, I emailed you about this, but I also found some measuring tape and took measurements myself but I still have a question.

First off the TGR Alice is 348mm x 130mm so I believe that it should fit perfectly in the heavy-6 bag.

If I just purchase a Heavy-6 bag will that ship out immediately or will I have to wait for all GB stuff to be fulfilled?

Thanks,

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 15:01:51 »
Hey Norb, I emailed you about this, but I also found some measuring tape and took measurements myself but I still have a question.

First off the TGR Alice is 348mm x 130mm so I believe that it should fit perfectly in the heavy-6 bag.

If I just purchase a Heavy-6 bag will that ship out immediately or will I have to wait for all GB stuff to be fulfilled?

Thanks,

Oh, it should absolutely fit then. That is almost identical to the footprint of the FC660C. The bag will also nicely fit FC660M and FC660C keyboards without an aluminum housing, for those who prefer to carry around something lighter.

BTW, I don't think I got your email. Did you send it to shop@norbauer.com? I don't currently have any unanswered replies in my inbox.

The bags are being made to order at the close of the group buy (which ends today, incidentally), but they'll be finished likely before the keyboards (in a couple of months, I'd guess). If you don't have anything else in your order, it should fulfill immediately when the bags come into stock and won't require waiting until the keyboards are ready. So I guess the answer is: somewhere in between the two. ;)

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 15:04:49 »
Hey Norb, I emailed you about this, but I also found some measuring tape and took measurements myself but I still have a question.

First off the TGR Alice is 348mm x 130mm so I believe that it should fit perfectly in the heavy-6 bag.

If I just purchase a Heavy-6 bag will that ship out immediately or will I have to wait for all GB stuff to be fulfilled?

Thanks,

Oh, it should absolutely fit then. That is almost identical to the footprint of the FC660C. The bag will also nicely fit FC660M and FC660C keyboards without an aluminum housing, for those who prefer to carry around something lighter.

BTW, I don't think I got your email. Did you send it to shop@norbauer.com? I don't currently have any unanswered replies in my inbox.

The bags are being made to order at the close of the group buy (which ends today, incidentally), but they'll be finished likely before the keyboards (in a couple of months, I'd guess). If you don't have anything else in your order, it should fulfill immediately when the bags come into stock and won't require waiting until the keyboards are ready. So I guess the answer is: somewhere in between the two. ;)

I was wondering if it sent yesterday because I could not find it in my sent box despite remembering sending it. Thanks for getting back to me though! Super excited it will fit and I am about to go purchase one much to my wallet's dismay.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 19:07:00 »
Is this a different type of matte retro-refrigerator compared to the shiny retro-refrigerator coating of the Nnorbaforce finish?

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 22:20:29 »
Is this a different type of matte retro-refrigerator compared to the shiny retro-refrigerator coating of the Nnorbaforce finish?

Correct.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 22:52:29 »
Hey Norb, I emailed you about this, but I also found some measuring tape and took measurements myself but I still have a question.

First off the TGR Alice is 348mm x 130mm so I believe that it should fit perfectly in the heavy-6 bag.

If I just purchase a Heavy-6 bag will that ship out immediately or will I have to wait for all GB stuff to be fulfilled?

Thanks,

Oh, it should absolutely fit then. That is almost identical to the footprint of the FC660C. The bag will also nicely fit FC660M and FC660C keyboards without an aluminum housing, for those who prefer to carry around something lighter.

BTW, I don't think I got your email. Did you send it to shop@norbauer.com? I don't currently have any unanswered replies in my inbox.

The bags are being made to order at the close of the group buy (which ends today, incidentally), but they'll be finished likely before the keyboards (in a couple of months, I'd guess). If you don't have anything else in your order, it should fulfill immediately when the bags come into stock and won't require waiting until the keyboards are ready. So I guess the answer is: somewhere in between the two. ;)

I was wondering if it sent yesterday because I could not find it in my sent box despite remembering sending it. Thanks for getting back to me though! Super excited it will fit and I am about to go purchase one much to my wallet's dismay.


You guys are the best. Thanks!

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 14 October 2018, 00:30:41 »
Is this a different type of matte retro-refrigerator compared to the shiny retro-refrigerator coating of the Nnorbaforce finish?

****, I wish I had a Leopold fc660c :(

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 02:36:24 »
Is this a different type of matte retro-refrigerator compared to the shiny retro-refrigerator coating of the Nnorbaforce finish?

****, I wish I had a Leopold fc660c :(

An easily solved problem, where as this GB will most likely not be re-run.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 12 February 2019, 15:14:30 »
Any news?


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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 12 February 2019, 16:05:51 »
Any news?


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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 12 February 2019, 18:30:53 »
Any news?


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This thread is dead since a long time. Updates are given over at Keebtalk.

Most likely the only thing keeping that sight alive is the GB updates people refuse to post on Geekhack which is kinda messed up. Run a group buy on geekhack then never update it instead going to another website or discord.

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Re: [GB] the Heavy-6: upgrade housing for the Leopold FC660C
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 18 February 2019, 00:14:20 »
Any news?


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This thread is dead since a long time. Updates are given over at Keebtalk.

Most likely the only thing keeping that sight alive is the GB updates people refuse to post on Geekhack which is kinda messed up. Run a group buy on geekhack then never update it instead going to another website or discord.

I emailed everyone directly who participated in the group buy an update week before last. Between direct email, GeekHack, Reddit, and KeebTalk, it's just a lot of things to remember to update; I haven't intentionally been not posting here. Anyway, those emails and posts just detailed a few production issues I've been grappling with, for which I reached out to the affected folks directly. We're still on track for the originally anticipated "before the end of spring" timeline for all other orders, so there isn't really much of a substantive update to offer, really, unless one happens to be among those people to whom I reached out privately. The production details post referenced above is here for those interested. Main practical upshot is that I've re-opened pre-orders while the final production happens so that folks who had their orders cancelled could pick up an alternative finish if they wanted to.