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Offline severin

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #300 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 15:55:51 »
Looks great, would be in
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Offline horribleatcalculus

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #301 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 16:51:55 »
Fantastic, made an account just to plant my stake of support.
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Offline adramalech

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #302 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 18:23:36 »
Just created an account to show my support also. That keyboard looks amazing!
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Offline aphoid

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #303 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 18:27:28 »
Interested.
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Offline PainMaster

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #304 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:35:27 »
Quote from: p_blaze on Mon, 13 May 2019, 19:56:59
Quote from: PainMaster on Mon, 13 May 2019, 19:47:42
Thanks(?) to your many requests,

We're working on a sample of VE.A 2nd's PCB

We're still seeing some modifications.

First, all SATA + USB mini-connectors were changed to USB - C.

And, PCB patterns are being organized.

This is not a finished product.

It's about 90% complete.


(Attachment Link)

Will there be blocker options on this board?



We are testing to deal with any situations that
could damage the circuit,
cause abnormal operation,
or cause over-voltage conditions.

Although we have prepared the over-voltage blocking option,
which is the reference for USB-C,
it will be accurate if we test it a little more.

The software should still use bootmapper.
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Offline bisoromi

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #305 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:46:52 »
Quote from: PainMaster on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:35:27
The software should still use bootmapper.

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Offline yicaoyimu

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #306 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:47:57 »
I'm not a big fan of the two extra columns to the left. I would also like to have a sperator between left arrow and the modifier key next to it.
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Offline JediJesseS

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #307 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:06:41 »
USB-C is amazing! Sold on this board.
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Offline ImBZppl

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #308 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 21:52:10 »
This will be the last one then I'm out I swear.  ;D
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Offline LithiumLion

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #309 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 22:43:44 »
Registed for this I would be in! I always wanted a VE.A
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Offline AlcoholEnthusiast

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #310 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:08:07 »
Glad to see USB-C as an option. Is that for powering the board or for connecting the two sides?
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Offline Sorachi.Ace

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #311 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:16:10 »
Quote from: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:08:07
Glad to see USB-C as an option. Is that for powering the board or for connecting the two sides?
Both.
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Offline DillonHightower

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #312 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:34:50 »
Whooo!! Glad to see this get some life, and take off a little. Such a gem that went under the radar for so long. I bet if this hit massdrop in the current market. it would sell 10 fold what it did originally..
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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #313 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:46:22 »
Hello yes i would like one
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Offline Don Cardenio

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #314 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 23:55:19 »
This is what will fill the holes in my life. Can't wait.
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Offline oHimari

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #315 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 10:37:09 »
Now I'm definitely getting one.
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Offline macintacos

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #316 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 16:29:05 »
Quote from: DillonHightower on Tue, 14 May 2019, 13:56:07
Quote from: krisst on Tue, 14 May 2019, 12:51:28
Good news that VE.A 2 is going to get type-c support for all connectors. I guess it's for the better, losing the iconic SATA connector.

What about software, still going to be using bootmapper? Would hope that we could change that too. Not sure who is the creator of bootmapper and since winkeyless have closed, if possible, maybe change the way on how to configure the board to some of the newer and latest way. QMK? etc.

This will be unpopular opinion but qmk blows ass for new users and is not friendly whatsoever.. boot mapper works 99% of all users without needing a programming degree in order to get the damn thing working. I have no idea why anyone prefers qmk over any of the more simple interface is out there.

Personally, I like QMK; I've never really had a problem getting it set up, and the interface is plenty user friendly for my needs? I've only recently started modding boards and it really wasn't difficult to get started. Documentation is great too.

Anywho, very happy that this is coming!
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Offline rkarp

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #317 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 20:36:32 »
In on this...
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Offline LightningXI

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #318 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 03:36:44 »
Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:47:57
I'm not a big fan of the two extra columns to the left. I would also like to have a sperator between left arrow and the modifier key next to it.
Personally, taking away those columns takes away a good part of the charm for these keyboards.

A separator I can agree with.

And as previously mentioned, hopefully a revision to the acrylic diffuser lines and the badge/logo as well so it looks more elegant.
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 July 2019, 01:20:15 by LightningXI »
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Offline jil_jil32

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #319 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 07:28:21 »
Bookmarked.
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Offline rawrjau

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #320 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 15:48:02 »
In from the start! I discovered VE:A after it was gone and this is definitely the endgame
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Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #321 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:56:51 »
Tenting kits? Wrist rests?
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Offline Slavadavadingdong

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #322 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 10:43:34 »
I'm totally in for this one! Endgame material right here.
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Offline hejog

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #323 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 13:29:15 »
just created an account after far too long of being a lurker to reiterate my interest!
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Offline soso

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #324 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 16:30:05 »
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:56:51
Tenting kits? Wrist rests?

I'd also like info on this.
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Offline nastrovje

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #325 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 16:58:16 »
created an account 3 years ago to post in this thread. still interested.

pls change the extreme logo.
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Offline rmendis

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #326 on: Sun, 19 May 2019, 16:52:02 »
Quote from: yicaoyimu on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:47:57
I'm not a big fan of the two extra columns to the left. I would also like to have a sperator between left arrow and the modifier key next to it.

It would be unbalanced without the left columns.
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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #327 on: Mon, 20 May 2019, 09:43:15 »
I love my current VE.A, R2 is looking to be even better. I would probably be in for this and start using my R1 at work so I can enjoy that ergo life in two places without lugging my keyboard around.
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Offline RDaneelOlivaw

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #328 on: Mon, 20 May 2019, 12:09:13 »
I'm loving the update!! Very excited that progress is being made.

Regarding the firmware, I am torn, I like qmk for it's power, but it is so annoying how hard it is to use. Bootmapper I think will work just fine.
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Offline radam

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #329 on: Mon, 20 May 2019, 14:37:21 »
I’m interested in this but downloading an executable off Dropbox to program makes me real nervous. Would bootmapper client be the only way?

Edit:
I'm confused. If the layout is available in QMK you can just go to https://config.qmk.fm and pick the layout and configure. Click "compile" and download the firmware and then flash with dfu-programmer command line tool or qmk toolbox.

It doesn't seem like you have to manually build the firmware if you don't want to.
« Last Edit: Mon, 20 May 2019, 14:56:24 by radam »
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Offline Rejeckted

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #330 on: Mon, 20 May 2019, 23:16:32 »
I would definitely be on board for this.
« Last Edit: Thu, 30 May 2019, 02:43:44 by Rejeckted »
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Offline Twist3d

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #331 on: Tue, 21 May 2019, 01:05:10 »
Can't wait to see the final details.
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Offline rampantandroid

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #332 on: Mon, 27 May 2019, 00:06:20 »
I'd have interest in this.
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Offline CallMeMaybe

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #333 on: Mon, 27 May 2019, 08:50:20 »
Beyond down for a board, been waiting for this since missing R1.

The USB C is def a big and my wallet is more than ready.
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Offline silas

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #334 on: Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:02:08 »
Would be in for one if it can handle peak 150wpm (600-800 key presses) without dropping input or rolling over. See that it is an issue from V1 as well as other single-controller split keyboards that I own. (my deltasplit and quefrency boards don't have the issue)
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Offline Skull_Angel

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #335 on: Wed, 29 May 2019, 19:42:48 »
Quote from: silas on Mon, 27 May 2019, 19:02:08
Would be in for one if it can handle peak 150wpm (600-800 key presses) without dropping input or rolling over. See that it is an issue from V1 as well as other single-controller split keyboards that I own. (my deltasplit and quefrency boards don't have the issue)

Check your debounce settings. Iirc, the default setting isn't optimal and can cause these issues.

Edit: The info in this thread might be relevant to you if you're really interested in keyboard performance; https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42385.0
« Last Edit: Wed, 29 May 2019, 19:52:33 by Skull_Angel »
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Offline japancakes

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #336 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 02:34:06 »
In 100%.

Only thing I hope changes are the shifting lines around the acrylic diffuser in the front/back, the -=-=-=- look.

It looks busy and "gamer" compared to the original which is not what you generally desire with a $400+ keyboard. V2 already looks different with the tenting, logo, etc.
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Offline FatOldGuy

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #337 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 21:42:01 »
I'd be 100% down with this. Sign me up
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Offline foo4542

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #338 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 03:15:39 »
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Offline Yazzin123

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #339 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 07:06:35 »
100% in on this one
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Offline MrTq

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #340 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 07:15:17 »
waiting here...


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Offline heyitsqi

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #341 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 12:44:52 »
Glad to see USB-C finally put in. The last item on my checklist would be QMK.
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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #342 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 13:00:40 »
Re: QMK, just use the configurator. Yes, it's not quite as easy as Bootmapper, but nowadays it's pretty close. Winkeyless.kr doesn't even operate anymore outside of Korea.

Quote from: PainMaster on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:35:27
Quote from: p_blaze on Mon, 13 May 2019, 19:56:59
Quote from: PainMaster on Mon, 13 May 2019, 19:47:42
Thanks(?) to your many requests,

We're working on a sample of VE.A 2nd's PCB

We're still seeing some modifications.

First, all SATA + USB mini-connectors were changed to USB - C.

And, PCB patterns are being organized.

This is not a finished product.

It's about 90% complete.


(Attachment Link)

Will there be blocker options on this board?



We are testing to deal with any situations that
could damage the circuit,
cause abnormal operation,
or cause over-voltage conditions.

Although we have prepared the over-voltage blocking option,
which is the reference for USB-C,
it will be accurate if we test it a little more.

The software should still use bootmapper.

Thanks for the update, these are good changes. Is there any chance of a plate material other than stainless steel? I think aluminum might be more suitable for most people nowadays.

It would also be nice to see some more detail on the tenting system (not sure if that's been posted already).
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Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #343 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 13:10:53 »
Tenting details haven't been posted yet. I watch this more carefully than I do oncoming traffic
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Offline DillonHightower

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #344 on: Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:40:39 »
Quote from: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 05 June 2019, 13:10:53
Tenting details haven't been posted yet. I watch this more carefully than I do oncoming traffic

Im with you man. I need an  board for my carbon build, I have chosen this. And well It cant come soon enough. been holding out from other good buys not knowing when to expect anything from this.. Hopefully soon!
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Offline japancakes

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #345 on: Fri, 28 June 2019, 10:53:38 »
yeet my wallet off a cliff
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Offline juusu

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #346 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 03:34:26 »
I Hate to be that guy, but ... any chance of ISO layout support?
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Offline bit-shifter

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #347 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 03:57:40 »
Quote from: juusu on Sun, 30 June 2019, 03:34:26
I Hate to be that guy, but ... any chance of ISO layout support?
ISO is supported, see the OP!

Cheers!

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Offline urbantheii

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #348 on: Sun, 30 June 2019, 12:25:48 »
When can I throw my money at it?
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Offline strigif0rm3s

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Re: [IC] VE.A 2nd
« Reply #349 on: Wed, 10 July 2019, 15:17:45 »
omg im in! when is this happening?!?!?
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