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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #150 on: Tue, 08 January 2019, 21:44:19 »
Reflexbros c'mon pay up

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« Reply #151 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:51:23 »
Hey Guys,

A quick updateΩ

From the look of things currently, we have 1 confirmed invoice cancellation, and another one that looks to soon follow.

I will re-open the form to look for anyone that would like to hop on for the Reflex until this Sunday, 00:00 SGT.

If the spots does not fill, the GB will be cancelled, and everyone will be refundedΩ

With the cancellation of this GB, for your faith in my first designs and group buy, all paid participants of this GB will receive a one-time discount and priority slot on any of my subsequent projects as a gesture of my appreciation for your support.

I have learned much from this experience, and all the criticisms on geekhack as well as various Discord channels for this project has pushed me to find ways to significantly reduce my development & production cost for subsequent projectsΩ

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:55:53 »
Is there a market for Tofu clones?

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« Reply #153 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 11:25:56 »
Hey Guys,

A quick updateΩ

From the look of things currently, we have 1 confirmed invoice cancellation, and another one that looks to soon follow.

I will re-open the form to look for anyone that would like to hop on for the Reflex until this Sunday, 00:00 SGT.

If the spots does not fill, the GB will be cancelled, and everyone will be refundedΩ

With the cancellation of this GB, for your faith in my first designs and group buy, all paid participants of this GB will receive a one-time discount and priority slot on any of my subsequent projects as a gesture of my appreciation for your support.

I have learned much from this experience, and all the criticisms on geekhack as well as various Discord channels for this project has pushed me to find ways to significantly reduce my development & production cost for subsequent projectsΩ
Hopefully, it still works out, but if it doesn't thanks for running this in a professional manner. I will definitely be interested in your future designs, plus I want to try this mounting system.

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #154 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 12:01:21 »
Is there a market for Tofu clones?

No, just Fjell clones.  :p

Most likely also a market for TGR clones.

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 12:42:04 »
damn that's depressing

shoutout to the 2 guys that joined the gb but didn't pay the invoice, not sure why people join things they do not plan on buying

hopefully we can find 2 more for reflex, was really looking forward to paradox
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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 12:45:27 »
If this one fails, are you planning to do another GB soon?

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« Reply #157 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 12:52:24 »
I'm still holding out hope this completes, but even if it doesn't I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next, Windeh.  I really like elastomer mounting systems, and I think this one has a ton of potential.

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 12:57:35 »
Is there a market for Tofu clones?

I think there would be if it was a more premium Tofu. So brass of course, and perhaps a more premium aluminum with better anodization? Also, top mount instead of tray mount.

Using the more durable 7075-T6 aluminium would especially set it apart, but I don't know if using that aluminum would significantly raise the cost.


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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 15:04:49 »
Invoice dodgers...Yikes  :'(
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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Form Closed - Invoices Sent)
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:01:24 »
Spread the word that 2 spots need to be filled. really want the paradox T_T

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« Reply #161 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:25:31 »
Is there a market for Tofu clones?

No, just Fjell clones.  :p

Most likely also a market for TGR clones.

Is there a market for Tofu clones?

I think there would be if it was a more premium Tofu. So brass of course, and perhaps a more premium aluminum with better anodization? Also, top mount instead of tray mount.

Using the more durable 7075-T6 aluminium would especially set it apart, but I don't know if using that aluminum would significantly raise the cost.


LOL just kidding, inb4 $500 Tofu clone meme.  :p
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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Order Form Open for Reflex - 2 Spots Remaining)
« Reply #162 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:43:57 »
Only need one more for reflex! Come on, we are so close...

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« Reply #163 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:47:23 »
Only need one more for reflex! Come on, we are so close...

I count 13 paid on the Reflex sheet? The invoice numbers arenít without a gap anymore...

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« Reply #164 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 15:58:35 »
Only need one more for reflex! Come on, we are so close...

I count 13 paid on the Reflex sheet? The invoice numbers arenít without a gap anymore...

Ya but a new person joined. They just haven't been invoiced yet. So we need one new person to join. I am assuming the new people will pay their invoice.

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« Reply #165 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 17:33:55 »
One last final invoice. My Jane and mini Jane dream is happening  :))
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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Order Form Open for Reflex - 2 Spots Remaining)
« Reply #166 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 17:50:27 »
Yup. We need one more person to join for Reflex

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Order Form Open for Reflex - 1 Spot Remaining)
« Reply #167 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 22:07:43 »
Plot twist. We have 1 more spot open for Paradox.

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« Reply #168 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 22:10:26 »
Plot twist. We have 1 more spot open for Paradox.
So one paradox and one reflex?

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« Reply #169 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 22:20:59 »
Plot twist. We have 1 more spot open for Paradox.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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« Reply #170 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 22:26:13 »
Plot twist. We have 1 more spot open for Paradox.
So one paradox and one reflex?

Yarp.

All right guys, if you're having buyer's remorse, please let me know ASAP as there will be NO REFUND after the order is placed with the factory.


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« Reply #172 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 23:41:03 »
Plot twist. We have 1 more spot open for Paradox.
So one paradox and one reflex?

Yarp.

All right guys, if you're having buyer's remorse, please let me know ASAP as there will be NO REFUND after the order is placed with the factory.

I mean if it gets canceled no need to refund lol.
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Ha, this gb is like a leaky boat rn. plug one hole, another leak opens up. Let's pray for the best and get the word out!

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Guys, buy reflex.
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So... What's the latest news? Pass? Fail? Still waiting a bit?

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Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #178 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 10:32:56 »
this sucks
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Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)

Sad times. Beautiful designs regardless.

Looking forward to your next creations.

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Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)
This is sad :( I'll be in for your next design though.

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #181 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 11:16:07 »
Yeah... Probably best not to drag things out if you feel the GBís doomed. Least you got some sweet prototypes out of it.

Hope you can come back with something similar thatís a bit easier to machine. Even if you were just to take the paradox and simplify the weight to a Jane-like toblerone or simpler plate, it seems like the costs could be made a little more palatable.

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« Reply #182 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 11:32:40 »
Yeah... Probably best not to drag things out if you feel the GBís doomed. Least you got some sweet prototypes out of it.

Hope you can come back with something similar thatís a bit easier to machine. Even if you were just to take the paradox and simplify the weight to a Jane-like toblerone or simpler plate, it seems like the costs could be made a little more palatable.
I got the impression he had figured some ways to save money, but changing the fundamental design after folks already paid is awkward.

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« Reply #183 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 11:35:15 »
Sad to see this cancelled, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next with this design.

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« Reply #184 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 11:36:49 »
Its disappointing how this buy ended but I will be anxiously be waiting on your next design and GB. I know it's way early but just out of curiosity Windeh do you have a goal of when you plan to start your next buy?

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #185 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 12:08:07 »
Aw, this is so sad..

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« Reply #186 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 12:17:52 »
Other then Pemdas, everyone should have had their invoice payments refunded.

Pemdas will be refunded ASAP, most likely by Monday, because PayPal Singapore is terrible.

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« Reply #187 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 12:56:23 »
Yeah... Probably best not to drag things out if you feel the GBís doomed. Least you got some sweet prototypes out of it.

Hope you can come back with something similar thatís a bit easier to machine. Even if you were just to take the paradox and simplify the weight to a Jane-like toblerone or simpler plate, it seems like the costs could be made a little more palatable.
I got the impression he had figured some ways to save money, but changing the fundamental design after folks already paid is awkward.

Reducing cost for manufacturing is a combination of savings I will be able to pass down to subsequent GBs. However the designs for Paradox and Reflex is final, as any modifications to the design will simply increase development costs even further, and dilute back into each GB pricing.

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« Reply #188 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:01:07 »
Yeah... Probably best not to drag things out if you feel the GBís doomed. Least you got some sweet prototypes out of it.

Hope you can come back with something similar thatís a bit easier to machine. Even if you were just to take the paradox and simplify the weight to a Jane-like toblerone or simpler plate, it seems like the costs could be made a little more palatable.
I got the impression he had figured some ways to save money, but changing the fundamental design after folks already paid is awkward.

Reducing cost for manufacturing is a combination of savings I will be able to pass down to subsequent GBs. However the designs for Paradox and Reflex is final, as any modifications to the design will simply increase development costs even further, and dilute back into each GB pricing.

Any plans to sell the prototypes, or will you keep them around for their sentimental value?

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« Reply #189 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:13:57 »
Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)
This is sad :( I'll be in for your next design though.

Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)

Sad times. Beautiful designs regardless.

Looking forward to your next creations.

Sad to see this cancelled, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next with this design.

Its disappointing how this buy ended but I will be anxiously be waiting on your next design and GB. I know it's way early but just out of curiosity Windeh do you have a goal of when you plan to start your next buy?


Prototype for my next design should arrive next week, so it's well into development.

There will be 18 sets made, with target pricing well below $400 for base kit.

The IC will go up when the design is ready for production. There will not be a long IC like for the Reflex & Paradox.

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« Reply #190 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:14:40 »
Yeah... Probably best not to drag things out if you feel the GBís doomed. Least you got some sweet prototypes out of it.

Hope you can come back with something similar thatís a bit easier to machine. Even if you were just to take the paradox and simplify the weight to a Jane-like toblerone or simpler plate, it seems like the costs could be made a little more palatable.
I got the impression he had figured some ways to save money, but changing the fundamental design after folks already paid is awkward.

Reducing cost for manufacturing is a combination of savings I will be able to pass down to subsequent GBs. However the designs for Paradox and Reflex is final, as any modifications to the design will simply increase development costs even further, and dilute back into each GB pricing.

Any plans to sell the prototypes, or will you keep them around for their sentimental value?

No plans to sell the protos at this moment.

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« Reply #191 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:15:50 »
Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)
This is sad :( I'll be in for your next design though.

Looks like we have failed to reach MOQ, and the GB will be cancelled.

I believe we have everyone that is going to join joined already, and any extension is just going to have more dropouts.

I will begin the refund immediately, so y'all should be receiving your payment back shortly.



Lets try just 1 design for the next IC...  ;)

Sad times. Beautiful designs regardless.

Looking forward to your next creations.

Sad to see this cancelled, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next with this design.

Its disappointing how this buy ended but I will be anxiously be waiting on your next design and GB. I know it's way early but just out of curiosity Windeh do you have a goal of when you plan to start your next buy?


Prototype for my next design should arrive next week, so it's well into development.

There will be 18 sets made, with target pricing well below $400 for base kit.

The IC will go up when the design is ready for production. There will not be a long IC like for the Reflex & Paradox.

Oooooo exciting!


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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #192 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:21:57 »
My wallet is ready. Are working with another 60% layout again?

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« Reply #193 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:38:14 »
My wallet is ready. Are working with another 60% layout again?

Yes, it will be the same mounting system and 60% layout. I'd like to finish a 60% GB before moving on to other layouts, as market available PCB compatibility is a top priority for me.

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« Reply #194 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 13:43:06 »
My wallet is ready. Are working with another 60% layout again?

Yes, it will be the same mounting system and 60% layout. I'd like to finish a 60% GB before moving on to other layouts, as market available PCB compatibility is a top priority for me.

Excellent! I am very excited.

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« Reply #195 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 14:18:49 »
My wallet is ready. Are working with another 60% layout again?

Yes, it will be the same mounting system and 60% layout. I'd like to finish a 60% GB before moving on to other layouts, as market available PCB compatibility is a top priority for me.

Any plans on HHKB blockers?
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« Reply #196 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 14:28:04 »
Was looking forward to hearing how clacking away on the Reflex would sound and feel in person, so I am disappointed it didn't quite work out, but just wanted to say - kudos to Windeh for 2 great looking and well thought out designs, as well as for handling everything so promptly and professionally.  Can't wait to see what comes next!

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« Reply #197 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 17:50:19 »
Looking forward to your next group buy.

Unfortunate that we didn't make it this time. Really wanted these.

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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #198 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 17:54:33 »
Glad to see you already had plan for future developments. Fingers crossed you'd still keep that weight design from Paradox. Very much need a Jane and mini Jane in my life  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Reflex & Paradox (Cancelled - Refunding)
« Reply #199 on: Sat, 12 January 2019, 18:14:43 »
Other then Pemdas, everyone should have had their invoice payments refunded.

Pemdas will be refunded ASAP, most likely by Monday, because PayPal Singapore is terrible.

Hey that's me :cool:

Sad news on the GB cancellation, was really interested in that mounting system and weight...

Looking forward to your next design!
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