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Offline Ustinj

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Hi everyone

Have been working on this for a while, but refrained from posting the IC because I've got another IC running concurrently (Moment, 60%). But I see some people with several projects so hey why not put this out for feedback and logging? Hope you guys like it. Thanks to Shannie (for working on the project!), Dandruff (for always saying he doesn't like this or that, which encourages me to go through with it), Hineybush (for answering all my miscellaneous questions on his PCBs), and all of those who support me.

Updates, Prototypes, etc. in second post of thread.

Cloudline

The inspiration for Cloudline is the 'silver lining' that you can see when sunlight diffracts at the edge of a thick cloud cover.

I'd like to give credit where due to my partner Shannie -  she contributed by illustrating clouds for the project, as well as pitched the initial theme of the board that was developed on. Her portfolio can be seen here: http://shannonhoang.pb.online/



(not my image, please no sue)

Details

  • Layout: F13 TKL, WKL
  • Mounting: Large 'gummy-worm' O-ring / Top Leaf-spring
  • Materials: 6063 Aluminum, Brass, Stainless Steel
  • Weight (approx.): 6.2 lbs, unbuilt - Large brass bottom weight, internal polished SS weight frame
  • Typing Angle: 6.4 degrees
  • Front Height: ~17.9mm, 22.4mm EKH
  • Plates: The usual suspects - aluminum, FR4, polycarbonate / full, half
  • Price: $tbd

Vendors
  • US: CannonKeys
  • CA: Deskhero
  • EU: mykeyboard.eu
  • UK: Proto[typist]
  • AS: ILUMKB
  • AU: Daily Clack

IC Form: https://forms.gle/dNybmqtpo1m3SaCn9
Discord: https://discord.gg/XPEFcn8
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ascend.kb/

Some Prototype Photos







External Design



A Silver Lining



The external design of the board is a bit sleeker, cleaner, and simpler than my previous design. With the theme in mind, I had originally intended for it to only be produced with a silver bottom - I'm sure you can see why. It is a "seamless" - but not exactly - shoebox-style assembly, with the bottom piece slotting into the top piece. The bottom case peeks out slightly from below. 

Brass Weight Engraving



The 'Cloudline' theme is engraved onto the bottom weight with the help of my partner's fantastic clouds - staying true to the theme of the board, the clouds are continuous with the 'line' that frames the entire weight. There may be some shifting around on this engraving, namely adding another layer of clouds, etc.

(more) Subtle Curves



Again, I'm incorporating gentle and sweeping curves. I like them! Most obvious is the curve that contributes to the side-profile. Even more subtle is the twisting loft that creates the wedge, angling the board at a 6 degree incline. Do forgive the poor Fusion render textures. It looks good enough to get the point across, so I will stick with them.



Internal Design



Mounting



Cloudline is intended to be a large O-ring gasket (sometimes referred to as 'gummy worm') mount. Alternatively, it can be built using a stiff leaf-spring top mount design... Of course, this is just for fun and what I'll be testing in prototyping. If this works, I'll likely be running basic top-mount plates, leaf-spring top-mount plates, both compatible with the 'gummy worm' style of mounting.

Weight



Expand for OLD INTERNAL ENGRAVINGS - any renders you see with these older grooves are not up to date.
More


The internal design for the weight is a bit over-the-top. Before you persecute me for making the internals all snazzy (leading to increased machining time, materials, w/e) - I went through a few iterations and decisions to come to this design. In order to hide the daughterboard structure, I am using a two-piece weight design. There's a large brass weight that peeks out all the way to the bottom of the board, which sandwiches a mirror-polished stainless steel 'frame' into the case. For the thought process that resulted in this design, feel free to expand MORE.

More

I am not surprised you expanded this, because the internal design on this board does indeed look ridiculous.

1. The initial design was a simple cutout that split a deep groove into the weight and bottom case. Ugly, but for a while I accepted it.



2. I decided to do something about the groove, and added an overhang to the brass weight so that it covered a hidden cable route. This 'worked', but I wasn't happy with it. I was concerned with a thin piece of brass overhanging too far from the main bulk of the weight being fragile, and also could not stand that 'tab' in the center middle. I couldn't extend the bulk of the weight north, either - since the back of the board is slanted, it hits a dead end.



3. Current design. In order to remove the 'tab', the cover has to extend all the way to the edges. Because I didn't want a thin piece of a metal to extend from the bulk of the weight due to structural concerns, I separated the weight into two pieces - the bulk of the weight, and the 'frame'. Since I was working with two pieces anyway, I decided to roll with stainless steel to provide contrast with the brass. The steel frame is designed to be millable on a 2-axis CNC (it's completely flat) ... I know stainless steel is notorious for difficulty of machining, so I didn't want to introduce any curves or excess work here.



Yeah, yeah - it doesn't need to be polished, it doesn't need to be engraved, etc... a keyboard also doesn't need to be made of aluminum, or have mechanical switches, or be custom-made!




Common Questions / Concerns

Q: Can you remove or change the engraving over the arrow keys?

A: It might change, but nothing planned or set in stone. Not everyone will be happy with the engraving no matter what I make it - so in the end, it'll be what I want it to be. I would not remove the engraving, since I'd like the board to be differentiable from a top-down view. Luckily, there are dozens of great F13 TKLs in IC to choose from and there will always be one to fit people's preferences!

Q: What PCB does this use?

A: I designed this with Hineybush's H88c in mind, so it should be compatible with any PCB that is compatible with the Jane V2 CE - the actual PCB used in group buy is TBD.

Q: Why did you choose for polished steel on the inside, and brass on the outside? Why the internal details?

A: I explained my reasoning for the separate frame piece above. Having a flat piece extend from the main weight to cover the cable routing would use a much larger metal blank piece than separating it into two. I like the look of polished SS, and decided it was worth the slight increase in price. Keep in mind this SS piece is literally a FLAT, slightly thicker plate - there's no complex CNC to it. And for what it's worth, the cost to engrave the internals is well worth the price - I've gotten quotes for both laser-engraved and plain internals, and the difference is basically a happy meal.

Q: This looks like it is going to be extremely expensive. Are my fears true?

A: I don't think I can accurately estimate group buy price with so many variables at hand (exchange rates in the coming months, machining costs, unit count, vendors, etc). It will be expensive. $tbd. It probably won't be anything you haven't seen before.

Q: What colors are you running?

A: All the standard colors are going to have a contrasting silver bottom and brass bottom weight. Top colors will likely include some form of blue-grey, burgundy, and silver/e-white. Special colorway? TBD.

Q: What format will the GB be?

A: Each vendor will be using their own format.

Q: How many units? When is the group buy? What's the price again?

A: A decent amount of boards. I wouldn't be too worried. Hopefully near end of Q2 / start of Q3, but TBD. Price also TBD, but expecting $tbd.




Links (again)

IC Form: https://forms.gle/dNybmqtpo1m3SaCn9
Discord: https://discord.gg/XPEFcn8
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jjw.kb/





« Last Edit: Fri, 07 May 2021, 17:34:15 by Ustinj »

Offline Ustinj

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:17:53 »
not reserved

Current IC Standing
  • Initial IC
  • Prototype #1
  • Prototype #2
  • Final Adjustments, Minor changes, etc.
  • ...
  • Finalize Group Buy Details (Unit Ct, Pricing, Date)
  • Group Buy Start

UPDATE (December 16, 2020): Prototype 1



Leaf springs are stiff in aluminum. But they work just fine actually.


UPDATE (January 27, 2021): Updated Engraving




UPDATE (April 23, 2021): Prototype 2

Prototype 2 has arrived. So far with some quick inspection, some worries I had of the keyboard's functionality are alleviated. I don't think there will be many issues with the build, but the only way to really find out is to build it! Going to be building this tonight around ~9 PM PDT with a possible stream for any questions that people may want to ask live. Short notice, but the sooner I can build and verify it the quicker we can move with the group buy. I will probably ping Discord (https://discord.gg/XPEFcn8) for a live update of when that happens, so feel free to join if you'd like to follow closely (Geekhack alone will have all important updates though, so if not it's totally dandy).

Since some case concerns have been addressed, I think the sentiment is pretty good in this project making it to group buy. I'd like to really thank the team of vendors that will be supporting this project!


Vendors:

  • CannonKeys
  • Deskhero
  • mykeyboard.eu
  • Proto[Typist]
  • ILUMKB
  • Daily Clack

More details, such as groupbuy date, pricing, unit count, will be confirmed later!

For the build, I will try to upload a separate VOD with the typing sounds and whatnot.



Cloudline Prototype Build Stream, Assembly, Summary

I think the stream was an unexpected success last night, the interest and turnout surprised me. If you showed up thanks for supporting. Unfortunately chat was not working on the overlay properly, so I wasn't able to download a very useful / interesting VOD. If you watch the VOD directly on twitch, you'll be able to see questions / comments in the chat. I've re-recorded a summary video of how the board is assembled, as well as typing tests in both top-(flex)-mount and gummy worm o-ring mount.

Here is a link to the full build stream VOD(s), along with chat questions and whatnot.



Cloudline Prototype Typing Tests

Would take these with a grain of salt. Using a Samson QU2 which doesn't have a great low-end frequency response, sounds thinner than it would IRL.




« Last Edit: Thu, 06 May 2021, 18:29:50 by Ustinj »

Offline //gainsborough

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:18:30 »
woah.  Honestly, the snazzy internal weight is pretty neat!

Offline OtherAndrew

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:19:25 »
side profile and bottom is pretty sicc

Offline DuellM

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:21:09 »
Damn thatís a sexy keyboard


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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:21:45 »
I personally dislike the engraving on the top case above the arrows, but I kinda dig the dreamy aesthetic of the board

Glwic

Edit: It might be a bit hard to plug in the JST cable to the daughterboard with that deep of a cutout, unless you use tweezers or plug the cable in before screwing in the daughterboard
« Last Edit: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:28:05 by bisoromi »
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Offline Anthixious

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:24:34 »
A stainless steel frame.....this is the silver lining that I rarely see. Welcome to my list of watching threads. Will be fighting for a spot for this board.

Offline Quinella

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:24:57 »
really nice glwic!

Offline Boy_314

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:25:15 »
the shiny edges on this pic https://i.imgur.com/XLgq5w3.png looks real nice, not sure if it's planned or just a render thing. overall very nice looking board, i filled out the ic

Offline kyuut

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:25:28 »
The design looks great :D, i love the weight engraving. Personally not a big fan of the top piece engraving though. 

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:25:54 »
Looks really cool. Definitely interested.

Offline x9Memoriez

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:27:10 »
Definitely a cop from me other than the engraving above the arrows.

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:28:12 »
Great lines, everything looks tastefully done IMO.

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:28:50 »
i really want this

Offline whitemamba

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:32:45 »
Lovely

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:33:04 »
Definitely interested! Especially so if there ends up being a hotswap pcb option available :)

Offline Ustinj

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:33:56 »
Hi all, early for a reply but I have noted that a few of you don't want the logo engraving on the top piece - luckily for you, I had already been debating on the location of the logo. I have a version where it is laser engraved on the steel weight frame (internal), and the top case is clean. That logo can only be in one place on the board, so feel free to pick your preference in the IC form! TY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:34:57 »
lots of cool things going on here! personally i'd think using a steel bottom weight would be more thematic - since its 'silver' lining? but i really like the peek through weight's engraving
huh

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:40:31 »
Oh what??? I didnít know this was coming! Good luck and good work, buddy!

Offline cannon-cat

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:50:12 »
I love that side profile!  :D

Offline Ustinj

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Re: Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 22:50:22 »
The design looks great :D, i love the weight engraving. Personally not a big fan of the top piece engraving though.

Definitely a cop from me other than the engraving above the arrows.




I personally dislike the engraving on the top case above the arrows, but I kinda dig the dreamy aesthetic of the board

Glwic

Edit: It might be a bit hard to plug in the JST cable to the daughterboard with that deep of a cutout, unless you use tweezers or plug the cable in before screwing in the daughterboard

Thank you all for the input on the engraving, that's definitely something that I don't feel strongly about keeping / going, so no worries!



As for the daughterboard, my intended order of assembly is for the daughterboard to be screwed in, JST connected, then have the weight assembly screwed in on top - there should be a decent amount of room to work with the daughterboard without the weight assembly in place :-) I intend for it to be the "assemble and forget", a la Keycult - where the JST cable to plug into the PCB will hang out, single and ready to mingle..!

Oh, forgot to mention - I had designed this with Hineybush's lovely H88c in mind. I appreciate his help throughout all the questions I have for him in terms of using his PCBs for projects.
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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:11:30 »
Love the f13 keeb!

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:19:26 »
henlo justin, gib pls thx

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:40:56 »
very thoughtful design, drooling at the internal laser-engraved weight

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:54:24 »
i am in


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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:58:09 »
elegant design, def interested

Offline bananathock

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:58:32 »
this board is looking pretty good. pretty pog. i will be watching out for this one!

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - (Silver Lining) F13 TKL
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 23:59:40 »
I'm loving the blue / silver combination, and the design on the weight is terrific. Understated, but really nice.

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 00:55:57 »
are you also looking at using the hiney daughterboard?
https://hineybush.com/products/usb-c-daughterboard


Offline Nonnegaard

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 01:56:49 »
This is probably the nicest TKL I have seen in a while.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 02:07:25 »
This just an idea, but I traced the top of the picture of the cloud and made it into an LED strip to replace the engraving that the people seem to dislike. If you do this, maybe design it better than I did.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 02:12:27 »
Yeah, sorry to bomb the front page, but to be honest I can't imagine a TKL without F13. It's a free extra key that adds symmetry to the top, and it's the perfect place for an artisan if your keyset has an accent meant to go on the escape key.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 03:43:14 »
Looks great.  I hope the SS frame doesnít cause QC issues because this looks wonderful.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 04:01:15 »
Big fan of this! Hopefully will be able to join gb when the time comes <3

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 05:08:08 »
This just an idea, but I traced the top of the picture of the cloud and made it into an LED strip to replace the engraving that the people seem to dislike. If you do this, maybe design it better than I did.
F88c so no leds unless you use a daughterboard. it could just be an engraving then.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 09:24:34 »
Really clean. I honestly love the side profile and 2 piece weight.

I would prefer there be some sort of mark on the front of the case, near the arrows. Prefer logo, but am open to other ideas.

Edit: While I understand your logic about having the SS weight protected by being inside... I think it'll likely get scratched on assembly, and probably increases the cost of the board for little 'value' since it's almost never seen. Would prefer just sandblasted, myself.
« Last Edit: Tue, 17 November 2020, 09:54:05 by Visionaire »

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 09:42:57 »
Hi everyone

For what it's worth, prior to having the logo above the arrow key cluster, I had a removable stainless steel badge in the shape of a cloud:



I understand that some may not want 'branding' on the top face of the board, while some may simply like a clean look with nothing at all - however, in this case it's a bit difficult to tell if people don't like the engraving being a 'brand', rather than an 'emblem' that represents the board. I get it, because I feel that way too. I think engravings of a cloud / cloudline would feel more tangible to the owner, rather than the brand - only I would really feel connected to the triangle logo (since it's me!!), but those who know it's cloudline would feel more comfortable with a cloud.

Now, the reason I didn't roll with this cloud emblem - I didn't want to add another separate part, and didn't like the positioning that I had chosen. I may consider revisiting this cloud engraving offset to the right (in the same place the logo is currently in).


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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:13:17 »
That cloud is beautiful!!! Would love a board with that badge.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:14:00 »
Really nice.
Will there be an ISO version (with 1.25U left shift) or ANSI only?


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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:22:23 »
Pretty cool design. Interested to see how the internal cloud design turns out.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:22:42 »
I'm loving the cloud. Understand the desire to avoid another part. Would love to see it moved around to other positions and shown as engraved options... but damn that looks really good.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:36:13 »
Hi everyone

For what it's worth, prior to having the logo above the arrow key cluster, I had a removable stainless steel badge in the shape of a cloud:

Show Image


I understand that some may not want 'branding' on the top face of the board, while some may simply like a clean look with nothing at all - however, in this case it's a bit difficult to tell if people don't like the engraving being a 'brand', rather than an 'emblem' that represents the board. I get it, because I feel that way too. I think engravings of a cloud / cloudline would feel more tangible to the owner, rather than the brand - only I would really feel connected to the triangle logo (since it's me!!), but those who know it's cloudline would feel more comfortable with a cloud.

Now, the reason I didn't roll with this cloud emblem - I didn't want to add another separate part, and didn't like the positioning that I had chosen. I may consider revisiting this cloud engraving offset to the right (in the same place the logo is currently in).

I personally like this; very on brand to the board, but not over the top in your face. Good job!

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 10:52:59 »
Wow this is pretty neat. Very interesting weight design, otherwise quite clean and good looking.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 11:41:55 »
Hi everyone

For what it's worth, prior to having the logo above the arrow key cluster, I had a removable stainless steel badge in the shape of a cloud:

Show Image


I understand that some may not want 'branding' on the top face of the board, while some may simply like a clean look with nothing at all - however, in this case it's a bit difficult to tell if people don't like the engraving being a 'brand', rather than an 'emblem' that represents the board. I get it, because I feel that way too. I think engravings of a cloud / cloudline would feel more tangible to the owner, rather than the brand - only I would really feel connected to the triangle logo (since it's me!!), but those who know it's cloudline would feel more comfortable with a cloud.

Now, the reason I didn't roll with this cloud emblem - I didn't want to add another separate part, and didn't like the positioning that I had chosen. I may consider revisiting this cloud engraving offset to the right (in the same place the logo is currently in).

Would you reconsider this idea?  I think it's super cool and super unique to have a removable badge!

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 11:55:41 »
Hi everyone

For what it's worth, prior to having the logo above the arrow key cluster, I had a removable stainless steel badge in the shape of a cloud:

Show Image


I understand that some may not want 'branding' on the top face of the board, while some may simply like a clean look with nothing at all - however, in this case it's a bit difficult to tell if people don't like the engraving being a 'brand', rather than an 'emblem' that represents the board. I get it, because I feel that way too. I think engravings of a cloud / cloudline would feel more tangible to the owner, rather than the brand - only I would really feel connected to the triangle logo (since it's me!!), but those who know it's cloudline would feel more comfortable with a cloud.

Now, the reason I didn't roll with this cloud emblem - I didn't want to add another separate part, and didn't like the positioning that I had chosen. I may consider revisiting this cloud engraving offset to the right (in the same place the logo is currently in).
So in other words exactly what i suggested earlier? I dig.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 11:56:17 »
I LOVE IT! I was a huge fan of Phase and now a huge fan of Cloudline :) Lets hope I get lucky enough to get one!

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:11:39 »
you had me at WKL, the design elements are very artistic.
May I suggest more color options?
- black, silver, navy, grey, white
- it would be great if we can choose the top and bottom case color ourselves either to match or mismatch

looking forward to this.
« Last Edit: Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:30:23 by Kinesiologist »

Offline Ustinj

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:13:39 »
So in other words exactly what i suggested earlier? I dig.

Yes, you were definitely on the same path I was on earlier   ^-^

Thanks everyone for the kind words. Shannie will find it a big relief that everyone seems to love the weight engravings.

There are some exciting tweaks to be made to the design that I believe will impress all over again when shown.




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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:24:45 »
Yes, you were definitely on the same path I was on earlier   ^-^

Thanks everyone for the kind words. Shannie will find it a big relief that everyone seems to love the weight engravings.

There are some exciting tweaks to be made to the design that I believe will impress all over again when shown.

I did want to add that I much prefer the logo on top of the up arrow key as it is now over it being off center. I feel like F13 TKL's go for the F13 for the symmetry and it would be nice to have that symmetry carried over in the logo as well

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 12:29:31 »
very nice looking rectangle, that side profile is purdy.