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[IC] WS Orchid Strings
« on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:05:25 »

WS Orchid Strings



A magenta/purple set that features geometrically inspired shapes.



Check out the IC forms below:

IC FORM 1 - General overview

IC FORM 2 - Accent and Kitting vote





Introduction

Concept Art for Novelties






Kitting

https://imgur.com/a/0QwP28g

Modifier Kit



Alpha Kit



Numpad Kit



40s Kit



Novelty Kit



Spacebar Kit



Accent Spacebar Kit



Accemat




Monomat







Renders
https://imgur.com/a/T1lQQuh


Nemui by Bachoo


Pillow65 by KeliumWorks


U80-A by Rama Works


Ikki68 Aurora by Wuque Studio


Tilted40 by Swishy




Multiple Accents
https://imgur.com/a/KVYkfmR



With this set, we are planning to offer an additional accent colorway for purchase if there is enough interest. Right now, in the second IC form, you can vote on which the second colorway will be produced. The choice among orange-red, purple, cyan, green and mono (mod legend alphas). A third deskmat in the secondary accent colorway will be available as well.
(Board renders done by SirTimmyTimbit)


IC FORM 2 - Accent and Kitting vote

Deskmat variations






Collaborations

RAMA - 1u





More coming soon!

Don't hesitate to contact me if you're interested in a collab!





Info

Specs

Manufactured by Wuque Studio
Cherry Profile
PBT Doubleshot


Chip Samples



Vendors

TBA

Pricing

TBA

Contact

Discord:




FAQ
Will be expanded if necessary

What does WS stands for?

It stands for Wuque Studios. It will act as a manufacturer for this set.

What's with all these different colorways?

We are planning to offer an additional colorway for purchase if there's enough interest. This is why you see a split of modifiers and alphas to accompany that concept. Once the second colorway is chosen, I will add additional kits of that color.

No international/ortho kits?

Since this will be a doubleshot keyset, new molds get quite expensive. As of this moment, Wuque will not be able to cover all of the legends for NorDeUK kits for the first few sets. However, I am quite positive it will be possible in the future.

What's with the numpad kit's colors?

Design choice and simplification for MOQ.



Huge thanks to

SirTimmyTimbit for helping making this thing a reality and being oh so patient with me
Fran for assisting me with initial kitting drafts
KeebAad, Laminar, Noxious, Afresh, Ty and many, many others for being supportive beans



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« Last Edit: Sat, 04 September 2021, 09:45:31 by Skeil »

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:06:00 »
Change Log

08/24/2021 - IC Launch
08/25/2021 - Format tweaks/voting redone for better clarity
09/03/2021 - Tilted 40 render addon

To Do List

  • Market set idk
  • Obtain collaborations (if you're interested please contact me!)
  • Acquire keycap samples
  • Acquire deskmat samples
  • Finalize the design of metal novelties

Possible Stuff?

  • Full 40s mod kit
  • Alpha colored numpad (if realized, numpad kit will have a higher MoQ)
  • Finish illustration by the time the GB starts, to give more context and tie in the set's theme

« Last Edit: Fri, 03 September 2021, 14:27:26 by Skeil »

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:15:19 »
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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:15:41 »
I like this set. Numpad legends seem to be the wrong color though unless thatís a design choice

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:16:16 »
No international kits :eek: I need me some ISO-UK.

Beautiful colourway, GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:18:36 »
No international kits :eek: I need me some ISO-UK.

Beautiful colourway, GLWIC!

Unfortunately yes, at least for this round. Making molds for international legend molds would be too much for Wuque at this stage, but I hope it will be a possibility for future sets!

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:19:44 »
No international kits :eek: I need me some ISO-UK.

Beautiful colourway, GLWIC!

Unfortunately yes, at least for this round. Making molds for international legend molds would be too much for Wuque at this stage, but I hope it will be a possibility for future sets!


At least there's an ISO enter, I can live with that 🙌

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:25:55 »
I am all about that hot pink accent.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:42:10 »
What's the point of posting the picture of the pantone plastic chips if you won't tell us the color codes.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:43:57 »
No international kits :eek: I need me some ISO-UK.

Beautiful colourway, GLWIC!

Unfortunately yes, at least for this round. Making molds for international legend molds would be too much for Wuque at this stage, but I hope it will be a possibility for future sets!
The "<>" in the alpha kit should be in R4 with the 2nd b.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:55:39 »
No international kits :eek: I need me some ISO-UK.

Beautiful colourway, GLWIC!

Unfortunately yes, at least for this round. Making molds for international legend molds would be too much for Wuque at this stage, but I hope it will be a possibility for future sets!
The "<>" in the alpha kit should be in R4 with the 2nd b.

Fixed! Thanks a lot for pointing that out.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 07:58:49 »
What's the point of posting the picture of the pantone plastic chips if you won't tell us the color codes.

We felt showing an IRL sample was still a good idea to get a picture of how the set will potentially look like IRL.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 08:02:23 »
Accent kit renders are cool, but those alphas are not available so a bit pointless.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 08:04:04 »
If either the red orange or cyan alpha kits are avail, I will 100% pick up this set. Preferably both, but idk how many extra kits you can add. Anyways, good luck!

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 08:06:58 »
If either the red orange or cyan alpha kits are avail, I will 100% pick up this set. Preferably both, but idk how many extra kits you can add. Anyways, good luck!

Appreciate it! We will offer only one additional colorway for this round.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 08:47:45 »
Spacebar kits seem to be labeled incorrectly. The novelties are shown in the imgur gallery but not in the Geekhack thread so it might be a good idea to show those here as well. You should also move r1 PgUp and End to numpad kit since those are used for 1800 layouts.

GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 09:45:27 »
That 40s kit is scuffed. The glaring issues I noticed right off the bat is that the r1 1.75 backspace should be r2, and the r2 2.25 enter is mislabeled - it looks to be 1.75. It should also be on r3. It will also need some more bars.

I replied to the IC form with some resources that will hopefully be helpful. If you need more help with the kit you can join us in the #keyset-design channel in the 40s Discord.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 10:13:10 »
Nice colourway. glwic


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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 10:48:32 »
Didn't know Waque studios manu'd keycaps! Glwic

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 11:48:53 »
Hot pink accents is an insta-buy, but I'm not sure whats up with the alt accents. Each has a different alpha colorway with a different accent kit -- maybe this could be clarified / streamlined.
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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 24 August 2021, 12:42:35 »
Hot pink accents is an insta-buy, but I'm not sure whats up with the alt accents. Each has a different alpha colorway with a different accent kit -- maybe this could be clarified / streamlined.

We are planning to offer an additional colorway for purchase if there's enough interest. This is why you see a split of modifiers and alphas to accompany that concept. Once the second colorway is chosen, I will add additional kits of that color.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 03 September 2021, 14:09:43 »
Added new renders, the board is Tilted40 by Swishy  ;D


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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 03 September 2021, 21:44:57 »
Can we please stop ruining 40s kitting? This keeps happening with other PBT sets and everyone is just copying the same terrible kits off each other.

40s have unique modifiers in R2 and R3, and sometimes one or two in R4. They share the same R4 bottom row keys as normal keyboards. You can cover the overwhelming majority of spacebar layouts with 2 / 2.25 / 2.75 (standard Alice) and a 6.25. 2x3u is often appreciated in spacebar kits.

There are two ways to do 40s kitting in ePBT (which is where this kitting has been copied from):

1. Do a proper base kit with alphas and mods for 60%+ boards and add a 40s-specific kit with the unique R2/R3/R4 mods only (and spacebars if you don't have Alice in base).

2. Do separate alphas and mods and include a 40s mod kit that has both the unique R2/R3/R4 keys and the common bottom row keys that are shared with other keyboards.

The way your kitting is setup currently is such that if somebody wants to cover a 40% they need to buy alphas, the 40s kit for the unique 40s keys, and then the regular mod kit in order to get like 6 keys for their bottom row, and then the spacebar kit for the spacebars. This is something that's insanely easy to fix.

If you're absolutely set on not doing a base kit (I don't know why? Just do a base kit) then you should do a proper 40s kit that offers coverage for the majority of 40s and ortho boards when combined with the alphas, so 40% users can just buy two kits.

If you want a good example of basekit + 40s addon, check out ePBT Origami kitting (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112884.0)

If you want a good example of alphas + 40s modkit, check out ePBT Acid House (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112022.0)

That's it. Do one of those kits. Then get some people who know stuff in either keycap discord or 40s discord to fix any minor mistakes. But stop repeating this awful four-kit 40s kitting that lazy designers have been pushing recently.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 03 September 2021, 23:16:58 »
ooohhh i love this color :eek: :eek:

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 04:29:07 »
The iso novelty of kitting vote is not necessary imo. This is WS so it's not expensive as GMK, why choose to vote out all iso users? This does not make any sense. Why not include both choices in the novelty kit?

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 05:28:30 »
Color is sick. Hope the pricing isn't too crazy.

Also 2 tab keys on the mod kit would be nice, or an extra tab for the alpha kit.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 08:59:40 »
Color is sick. Hope the pricing isn't too crazy.

Also 2 tab keys on the mod kit would be nice, or an extra tab for the alpha kit.

Prices will be comparable to WS Kraken, whose prices have been revealed already! Once we are confident in Orchid's kits, we will reveal the prices as well.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 09:03:26 »
Can we please stop ruining 40s kitting? This keeps happening with other PBT sets and everyone is just copying the same terrible kits off each other.

40s have unique modifiers in R2 and R3, and sometimes one or two in R4. They share the same R4 bottom row keys as normal keyboards. You can cover the overwhelming majority of spacebar layouts with 2 / 2.25 / 2.75 (standard Alice) and a 6.25. 2x3u is often appreciated in spacebar kits.

There are two ways to do 40s kitting in ePBT (which is where this kitting has been copied from):

1. Do a proper base kit with alphas and mods for 60%+ boards and add a 40s-specific kit with the unique R2/R3/R4 mods only (and spacebars if you don't have Alice in base).

2. Do separate alphas and mods and include a 40s mod kit that has both the unique R2/R3/R4 keys and the common bottom row keys that are shared with other keyboards.

The way your kitting is setup currently is such that if somebody wants to cover a 40% they need to buy alphas, the 40s kit for the unique 40s keys, and then the regular mod kit in order to get like 6 keys for their bottom row, and then the spacebar kit for the spacebars. This is something that's insanely easy to fix.

If you're absolutely set on not doing a base kit (I don't know why? Just do a base kit) then you should do a proper 40s kit that offers coverage for the majority of 40s and ortho boards when combined with the alphas, so 40% users can just buy two kits.

If you want a good example of basekit + 40s addon, check out ePBT Origami kitting (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112884.0)

If you want a good example of alphas + 40s modkit, check out ePBT Acid House (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112022.0)

That's it. Do one of those kits. Then get some people who know stuff in either keycap discord or 40s discord to fix any minor mistakes. But stop repeating this awful four-kit 40s kitting that lazy designers have been pushing recently.

Alpha&Mod kits split exists to accommodate the second colorway option. Since I do have a separate alpha kit now, I am thinking of the possibility of making a full 40s modifier kit (like ePBT Kavala) that would offer an opportunity for 40s user to just get alpha + 40s kit instead. Right now, I am waiting for info if that is possible though. 

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 09:13:59 »
Alpha&Mod kits split exists to accommodate the second colorway option. Since I do have a separate alpha kit now, I am thinking of the possibility of making a full 40s modifier kit (like ePBT Kavala) that would offer an opportunity for 40s user to just get alpha + 40s kit instead. Right now, I am waiting for info if that is possible though.

Okay, maybe I am not being clear here.

There are two ways to do 40s kitting and you did it the wrong way. There's nothing to think about. Either a) do a proper base kit, or b) fix your 40s kit. Those are the options.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 10:07:43 »
Are there any real life photos of previous WS keycaps
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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 12:01:42 »
Reminds a lot of Hyper Light Drifter with the colour set and geometric shapes. GL, curious to see how this one turns out, i'll be in when there's proper ISO UK.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 12:30:05 »
Alpha&Mod kits split exists to accommodate the second colorway option. Since I do have a separate alpha kit now, I am thinking of the possibility of making a full 40s modifier kit (like ePBT Kavala) that would offer an opportunity for 40s user to just get alpha + 40s kit instead. Right now, I am waiting for info if that is possible though.

Okay, maybe I am not being clear here.

There are two ways to do 40s kitting and you did it the wrong way. There's nothing to think about. Either a) do a proper base kit, or b) fix your 40s kit. Those are the options.

You offer a lot of valuable input, and I get that it can be frustrating to repeatedly encounter suboptimal kitting for one's particular flavour of layout - but it's just keycaps. OP is obviously willing to accommodate 40s, no need to be so acrimonious.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 13:56:03 »
Reminds a lot of Hyper Light Drifter with the colour set and geometric shapes. GL, curious to see how this one turns out, i'll be in when there's proper ISO UK.

Thanks! A fellow HLT fan! I'm all out for supporting international kits, but it won't be possible for this round, unfortunately. The same goes for ortho kits as well, they require a ton of unique molds, which are pricy.

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Re: [IC] WS Orchid Strings
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 19:19:27 »
Alpha&Mod kits split exists to accommodate the second colorway option. Since I do have a separate alpha kit now, I am thinking of the possibility of making a full 40s modifier kit (like ePBT Kavala) that would offer an opportunity for 40s user to just get alpha + 40s kit instead. Right now, I am waiting for info if that is possible though.

Okay, maybe I am not being clear here.

There are two ways to do 40s kitting and you did it the wrong way. There's nothing to think about. Either a) do a proper base kit, or b) fix your 40s kit. Those are the options.

You offer a lot of valuable input, and I get that it can be frustrating to repeatedly encounter suboptimal kitting for one's particular flavour of layout - but it's just keycaps. OP is obviously willing to accommodate 40s, no need to be so acrimonious.

I wasn't being acrimonious - just trying to make sure that my point wasn't diluted in needless details about R2 backspaces and R3 tabs.
« Last Edit: Sat, 04 September 2021, 20:19:33 by Mecxs »