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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #400 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 17:52:05 »
Anyone have tips for storing domes and domesheets that you aren't currently using? I was thinking of storing them in a shallow tupperware but I'm not sure if storing them slightly folded is a good idea.

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I have a bunch of these to store small things. They're meant for screws and such, but I use it for a bunch of keyboard stuff.

I put my dome sheets in there. it is "rolled", but not tightly.
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #401 on: Thu, 16 November 2017, 22:30:37 »
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.

Interesting. Can you compare to Alps tactiles?

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #402 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 03:27:55 »
So I lubed my FC990C, and the board feels a bit less tactile. This seems to be because there is a little bit more force required to push down on the key. (I used Zeal's thick lube.)

Should the 45g BKE Redux domes help in this regard, or would the impact of the lube still overwhelm the tactility of the domes?
The BKE domes are extremely tactile. Changing to BKE from regular Topre domes will definitely add a bigger tactile bump with or without lube.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #403 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 03:32:31 »
Looking forward to ordering when other buys are cleared up/reviews are out I hope the stock lasts long enough.
I emailed Keyclack about their stock and the reply stated that while they don't know the demand it will only be about a month between restocks if they do sell out. Sounds like they will be keeping BKE domes in their store for the foreseeable future.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #404 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:50:37 »
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.

Interesting. Can you compare to Alps tactiles?

Alps switches are a smooth steady bump that starts high in the press and extends pretty far into the press. The tactility feels "round".  They compare more to regular topre domes, in that the tactility increases and decreases smoothly. Bke domes provide a much sharper tactile point and then they more rapidly collapse (or feel like they do at least). So there's a quick "snap" point to the tactility.  Kinda hard to explain
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #405 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 11:08:01 »
bke feels like you are breaking a slab of chocolate with each press. Perhaps a little less sharp than that, so maybe a piece of chocolate covered with a cloth.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #406 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 11:09:46 »
Damn, that's a cool analogy, I might just have to treat myself to an early christmas present :D

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #407 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 18:10:47 »
Are they closer to buckling springs, then? Those have some of the sharpest tactility I know, even if the drop is shallower than most.

Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #408 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 18:23:29 »
Did any of the domes ship today?

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #409 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 21:35:33 »
We've packed a bunch today, but unfortunately, the day has come to an end.

We're likely to finish packing these Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #410 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 21:57:35 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #411 on: Fri, 17 November 2017, 22:40:57 »
Iím guessing tons of people would want a few cone springs with the domes just in case they lose one. Good move making them available.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #412 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:29:14 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.

That would be awesome.  That would almost complete the list of parts needed to replace parts on a topre board.  Or better yet, for creating custom boards.  Only thing missing still is the top housing.  But I think there could be other options for that as well.  I would definitely buy in on some of those springs.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #413 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 06:36:52 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

That's cool!

Are these going to be replacements for the stock springs? Or will there be more options, like lighter/heavier versions?
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #414 on: Sat, 18 November 2017, 07:31:19 »
Woah, replacement springs now? I feel like we're on a cusp of having topre customs available...

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #415 on: Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:34:56 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.

Heavier spacebar spring would be  :thumb:  gold goldgold

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #416 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:25:34 »
Will shipping notifications with tracking numbers be sent out?

Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #417 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:49:41 »
I'm getting antsy as well - I had hoped to install the domes over Thanksgiving

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #418 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:50:15 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.

Someone gives me an education please: If I already install the BKE domes, what would a custom spring bring to the board? Surely it's not just for a heavier key feel, since that's what the heavier domes are for, right?

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #419 on: Mon, 20 November 2017, 23:27:52 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.

Someone gives me an education please: If I already install the BKE domes, what would a custom spring bring to the board? Surely it's not just for a heavier key feel, since that's what the heavier domes are for, right?

i've heard that the spring accounts for 5g of the weight of the switch, so yeah i don't think there'd be much difference.

if anything, it would probably be a step towards custom topre boards, or just replacement parts

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #420 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 20:29:52 »
Just got a shipping notification. Very excited for these.
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #421 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 20:32:40 »
Oh, and I'm not sure how much "interest" there is, but we're currently working on making Topre Springs (spacebar + conical spring).

Just a heads up, of something to expect.

Someone gives me an education please: If I already install the BKE domes, what would a custom spring bring to the board? Surely it's not just for a heavier key feel, since that's what the heavier domes are for, right?

i've heard that the spring accounts for 5g of the weight of the switch, so yeah i don't think there'd be much difference.

if anything, it would probably be a step towards custom topre boards, or just replacement parts

Would be useful to get those weights in between as some may find light too light, and heavy too heavy so adding a slightly heavier spring may get it perfect.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #422 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:29:26 »
Just got a shipping notification. Very excited for these.

So did I! YES!!!

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #423 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:46:02 »
Hi,

We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).

If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #424 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:58:47 »
Hi,

We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).

If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.

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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).

Hhmmm, still nothing yet (Ordered in the first hour). Sure hope I'm not one of those 5.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #425 on: Tue, 21 November 2017, 23:00:02 »
Hi,

We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).

If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.

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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).

Hhmmm, still nothing yet (Ordered in the first hour). Sure hope I'm not one of those 5.

Can you email support@keyclack.com?

That has me curious. Thanks!
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #426 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 00:04:39 »
Hi,

We have now shipped the ones that were ordered before Nov 13 (Monday).

If you were ordered before then, you should have gotten a notification by now :). If not, we'll be packing it tomorrow.

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We have a few issues with some addresses that couldn't generate labels automagically, but this only applies to a few people (less than 5).

Hhmmm, still nothing yet (Ordered in the first hour). Sure hope I'm not one of those 5.

Can you email support@keyclack.com?

That has me curious. Thanks!

Ah never mind, the email just arrived. Apology for being that guy with the fake trouble 🙂

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #427 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:18:11 »
Lol nothing will overwhelm the tactility of bke domes. Seriously they make the most tactile switch you can imagine.

Interesting. Can you compare to Alps tactiles?

Alps switches are a smooth steady bump that starts high in the press and extends pretty far into the press. The tactility feels "round".  They compare more to regular topre domes, in that the tactility increases and decreases smoothly. Bke domes provide a much sharper tactile point and then they more rapidly collapse (or feel like they do at least). So there's a quick "snap" point to the tactility.  Kinda hard to explain

Super interesting, thanks for the reply. I feel like Alps collapse hard compared to Topre and part of what makes Topre so great (to me) is the roundness of the bump. Not sure I want to lose that for more tactility (alps blue and orange are tactile enough!) Still gonna try them, though... thanks again.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #428 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 18:47:55 »
Super excited for everyone to receive their domes!

I'm currently working on making the springs, and hopefully, we start seeing some custom topre boards coming out in 2018. That would be really exciting!
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #429 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 19:04:15 »
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?


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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #430 on: Wed, 22 November 2017, 19:07:34 »
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?


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Currently, I have no idea. But I think I'm going to have to get one of those cases for myself to check it out.

Too bad I don't have a novatouch :( and I don't want the realforce one that badly
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #431 on: Thu, 23 November 2017, 12:49:51 »
Tracking updated with a delivery date of Tuesday! I canít believe this is happening so fast. Probably wonít have a chance to install them until Thursday.
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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #432 on: Thu, 23 November 2017, 18:33:04 »
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?


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Currently, I have no idea. But I think I'm going to have to get one of those cases for myself to check it out.

Too bad I don't have a novatouch :( and I don't want the realforce one that badly

I will be able to see if the current Norbauer case is effected by the 60g domes! Got one coming!

Going to try and stream the dome swap too!

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #433 on: Fri, 24 November 2017, 10:51:21 »
We've packed a bunch today, but unfortunately, the day has come to an end.

We're likely to finish packing these Tuesday or Wednesday next week.


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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #434 on: Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:51:39 »
!!! Ohhhh bboooyy!! Got my heavy domes installed in HHKB... bajeesus. Whoever compared these to breakin off pieces of a Hershey bar was absolutely spot on. The crisp. The Thock.
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« Reply #435 on: Sat, 25 November 2017, 13:58:46 »
!!! Ohhhh bboooyy!! Got my heavy domes installed in HHKB... bajeesus. Whoever compared these to breakin off pieces of a Hershey bar was absolutely spot on. The crisp. The Thock.
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Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #436 on: Sat, 25 November 2017, 14:33:26 »
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #437 on: Sat, 25 November 2017, 16:04:25 »
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.

This pls


Only mods have the Redux BKE Heavy Domes, alphas are still stock. (Not my board, found on Reddit thread)

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« Reply #438 on: Sat, 25 November 2017, 20:45:56 »
Any possibility you could do a typing video? All I have seen so far are typing vids using the OG BKE domes.

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Only mods have the Redux BKE Heavy Domes, alphas are still stock. (Not my board, found on Reddit thread)

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #439 on: Sun, 26 November 2017, 06:05:29 »
Only mods have the Redux BKE Heavy Domes, alphas are still stock. (Not my board, found on Reddit thread)

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #440 on: Sun, 26 November 2017, 19:17:44 »
Installed heavy domes on Plum87 with Silence-x rings. I'm in love. I suspect I won't be using the set of light domes I purchased.

Swapping did take a bit of time, but it was fun and easy and I had no problems.

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #441 on: Sun, 26 November 2017, 23:32:18 »
Installed heavy domes on Plum87 with Silence-x rings. I'm in love. I suspect I won't be using the set of light domes I purchased.

Swapping did take a bit of time, but it was fun and easy and I had no problems.

Thanks Jchan!

Any chance you could compare Plum87 with BKE vs real Topre boards with BKE? It would be interesting to know if this is sufficient to turn Plum keyboards 'real'.

Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #442 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 15:07:00 »
I've been typing on the heavies for a few days now. My biggest complaint is that they totally ruined stock topre switches for me. I left one 55g dome in on my f12 key - it pretty much feels linear in comparison to the new domes. 

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Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #443 on: Mon, 27 November 2017, 20:22:02 »
So one complaint I had with actual BKE domes was that Topre stopped feeling 'comfortable' with them. There was just tactility and the bottoming out was not as drawn out. Is this still 'a thing' with the Redux domes?

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #444 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 01:30:21 »
Any chance you could compare Plum87 with BKE vs real Topre boards with BKE? It would be interesting to know if this is sufficient to turn Plum keyboards 'real'.

I'll let you know. I have a Type Heaven I'll be adding the lighter domes to (that one is for work) and a Realforce RGB I'll be adding more heavy domes to. I don't know if people consider the Realforce RGB "real" or not.

I might pick up a 91u for comparison purposes, and to have a full JIS board. If I can find one haha.

Anyone CONUS interested in trading your bag of 110 heavy domes for my bag of 110 light domes? Mine is unopened. I'll cover our shipping costs.
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Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #445 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 03:23:06 »
Any chance you could compare Plum87 with BKE vs real Topre boards with BKE? It would be interesting to know if this is sufficient to turn Plum keyboards 'real'.

I'll let you know. I have a Type Heaven I'll be adding the lighter domes to (that one is for work) and a Realforce RGB I'll be adding more heavy domes to. I don't know if people consider the Realforce RGB "real" or not.

I might pick up a 91u for comparison purposes, and to have a full JIS board. If I can find one haha.

Anyone CONUS interested in trading your bag of 110 heavy domes for my bag of 110 light domes? Mine is unopened. I'll cover our shipping costs.
As a Realforce RGB owner I consider it "realer" than a Type Heaven :P. Realforce has better build quality and the RGB looks and feels great, just have to replace the stock keycaps. I really love the minimal case. It feels different from my Hi-Pro and HHKB but both of those feel different from each other as well. The RGB to me feels like a lighter tactile bump, easier compression, and a smoother bottom out than my other Topre. I will also be putting the BKE redux domes on it so I am interested to see how much it changes the feels.

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Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #446 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 08:52:50 »
Mine arrived yesterday, didn't have the chance to actually swap them into a board but I did have a loose 45g dome to compare them with, and these things really do live up to the bubblewrap/hershey bar comparisons.  Now my only problem is that I want to get a ton of them to swap all my boards, though I will have to test out whether I like the heavy or light more. 

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Re: [IC] Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #447 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 09:09:04 »
Any theories on if the 60g domes would be impacted by something like the new Norbauer Alu Case?

I have the lights and the heavies installed on my Norbauer Case, works like a charm and the installation was quite easy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7fzjh9/photos_bke_redux_norbatouch_with_mito_canvas/

@jchan94: About the springs, any way to get notified once they are ready?

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Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #448 on: Tue, 28 November 2017, 14:53:29 »
Got my heavies this morning. I haven't installed them yet because I'm still waiting on a few things for my novatouch rebuild, but just sitting here comparing the tactility to the 45g topre domes is like night and day. I think what others have said is true: this will ruin standard topre domes for you, the BKE domes feel so much more comfortable and like 400% more tactile. They're spectacular. I wish I went with the 110 pack now :D

I'm so eager to get these installed... HURRY UP JTK TOXIC!

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Re: Topre Dome Replacements (BKE Redux)
« Reply #449 on: Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:16:45 »
I am sooo happpy that everything has been so well received for this project.

It truly brings me joy since 99% of the things I've been hearing from people is positive, and I've been needing some of that recently.

In any case, we're currently working on finalizing the spring replacement project.

We've created the production samples, and are currently waiting to receive these, test them out, and everything before we go to bulk production.

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A few things I want to note about the springs is that:

1. They will probably be expensive, and sold in packs of 5 or 10.

Why? Sorting them into individual units is extremely expensive, and we're making an extremely low production run of them. Maybe about 20,000 units.

2. The spacebar springs will probably be sold in individual units however.

Why? Because I don't think many need it. However, only about 1000 will be made, and they will probably be expensive because of the low-unit run.

To clarify: 1000 springs is an extremely low unit run, and our manufacturer has been quoting us for 100k unit MoQ.

3. We're most likely to release any of this end of December, or in January, as Q4 is closing soon since the Holidays are around.

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Also, we're running low on 110 heavy domes, but we're likely to update that number to 125 unit (and just using the 25 unit stock bags) to make up for the lack of stock. The price won't change if and once we run out of 110 heavy domes.

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I hope that answers everyone's questions and concerns!

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