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Offline bardomudo

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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #550 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 12:53:17 »
Don't know if that's been answered before, sorry if it has.

Has the MOQ for the Black ANSI been reached yet?

Also, are the colored Win95 keys the default now? That's all it's coming with?
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #551 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:39:20 »
is there any 87 keys set?
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #552 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:43:35 »
Quote from: oppz197 on Sun, 23 June 2013, 13:39:20
is there any 87 keys set?

No, only full sets in this GB. But the prices are decent. There are 87 key sets that are more expensive.

Just don't use the numpad keys or sell them in the classifieds :)
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #553 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:23:59 »
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #554 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:17:54 »
Quote from: mauri on Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:23:59
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #555 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:25:48 »
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?


hopefully it would be a little cheaper since it uses so few keys.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #556 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:26:47 »
Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:25:48
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?

I kinda doubt they would have the right profile molds for the HHKB layout
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #557 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:28:22 »
Profiles? all you need is a beige |\ really...




guess there aren't 1.5s either...
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #558 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:29:30 »
To be fair, this GB has been ongoing for quite a while now, and I'm afraid with all the changes and new introductions we've had already and extra time it will take to get to MOQs for new stuff, we'll lose some people.  I really want to see this completed, personally, and I hope people realize that all the tweak requests to EXISTING mockups may or may not be beneficial to the Group Buy as a whole (as someone who's already signed up for a set may like it exactly as pictured, and will then come back later to see a change they don't like and cancel).
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #559 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:31:19 »
This has already been run at least once to completion IIRC... I don't think adding a couple extra keys would be a big deal if it's feasible for the manufacturer.
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« Reply #560 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:31:44 »
If this R2 happens successfully (I really hope so!), it's likely a R3 with more great PBT dyesub stuff. Maybe then would be the perfect time for a HHK set.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #561 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:43:25 »
Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:25:48
Is there anyway (with enough interest) we could run a blank set specific to HHKB Unix layout for the GH60/ KMAC Happy?


hopefully it would be a little cheaper since it uses so few keys.

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:28:22
Profiles? all you need is a beige |\ really...




guess there aren't 1.5s either...

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:31:19
This has already been run at least once to completion IIRC... I don't think adding a couple extra keys would be a big deal if it's feasible for the manufacturer.

Imsto has already ordered  the white/beige sets, so they're already on hand, but more importantly the factory wanted an order for 10,000 beige 1.25x bottom row mods, so I highly doubt a blank beige |\ is going to happen :p

Source - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.msg935043#msg935043
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #562 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:45:28 »
ermahgerd I'm not asking any of you.

The question is directed at lysol Ivan. I'm not getting my hopes up, I just want a decent set of keys for the GH60 that don't have some garbage qwerty legends and thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

anyway, I doubt it will happen since we still don't have 1.5 mods or short R.Shifts or beige |\ AFAIK...



best bet is just to mix and match a few set and suffer a white |\


EDIT: yeah I wrote that before you posted Jocelyn, but thanks for the link
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #563 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:46:34 »
Yes, and that's exactly why I sourced his post. I thought you may have missed it :)
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #564 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 19:58:02 »
are you able to do a completely white set with black print?
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« Reply #565 on: Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:00:33 »
Quote from: bsd on Sun, 23 June 2013, 19:58:02
are you able to do a completely white set with black print?

It would have to be added as an option, and it would still have a minimum order quantity of 20 pieces, so unlikely that it will be added.  You can find thick PBT "RGB" sets on the Classifieds and eBay--those are back font on all white, and only Ctrl, Shift, and Alt have colored fonts.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #566 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:26:16 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:17:54
Quote from: mauri on Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:23:59
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.

Perhaps I phrased it wrong, which ones are gonna happen?
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #567 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:39:29 »
Quote from: mauri on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:26:16
Quote from: rowdy on Sun, 23 June 2013, 17:17:54
Quote from: mauri on Sun, 23 June 2013, 16:23:59
Whats the word on the MOQs on various layouts

Earlier in the thread it mentions MOQ 20 per set.

Perhaps I phrased it wrong, which ones are gonna happen?

Only the ones that reach MOQ :p

And we won't know that until orders are nearly closed.  You can ask Ivan for a progress report though.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #568 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:55:43 »
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?
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« Reply #569 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:59:01 »
Quote from: HongKongFui on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:55:43
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?

You can only order what is in the order form, and unfortunately DE is absent :(
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #570 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 06:31:30 »
Sure. My hope was he maybe gets it back while the option is gone due to not enough orders. Too bad I forgot this. Sent Lysol a pm...
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #571 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 06:33:13 »
Quote from: HongKongFui on Mon, 24 June 2013, 05:55:43
I forgot to order German- iso and now the option is gone. Would it change anything if I ordered two sets red on white german iso? Or is this option definitely gone forever?

No, it wouldn't make a difference. Last time Ivan showed the order numbers the ISO DE sets had 4 orders (incl. mine) so your 2 sets won't bring them to 20 orders.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #572 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 07:13:54 »
If it is not in the OP anymore there was not enough interest to keep it going. Everything that is there now set wise is good to go except for the MAC version still need more order... and Scandinavia I guess maybe will not make it unless everyone that ordered it before put their orders back for it.
Any further additions is pretty unlikely at this point. I want to just run with what we have and get it wrapped up and into production. Then I can focus on next GMK buy.
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« Reply #573 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 14:05:26 »
Ok... order updated for a final time, sorry. Ready  to go!  :llama:



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« Reply #574 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:14:41 »
I ordered a Mac version - if it doesn't make MOQ, I'll change my order to the US ANSI Windows version.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #575 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:15:10 »
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base or is it more of a pure white?
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #576 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:16:37 »
Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:15:10
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base our is it more of a pure white?

The Miami Limited is on all-white base, but the white itself is kind of a creamy off-white color.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #577 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:17:14 »
Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 25 June 2013, 11:15:10
This question may have been answered but, does the Miami set have a beige base our is it more of a pure white?

It's the same white/beige tone all the other sets have.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #578 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:35:39 »
The Miami is same as first round PBT set. Speaking of I still have 3 of US/RU black/red legend left over from last time.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #579 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 18:31:17 »
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 June 2013, 15:35:39
The Miami is same as first round PBT set. Speaking of I still have 3 of US/RU black/red legend left over from last time.
does The Miami had been produced before sir? if so, is there any real-life pictures of it?
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #580 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:31:19 »
Didn't save my initial order form URL, reordered:

1 Black US ANSI
1 Blank white/beige (no legends) ANSI
2 RGB 6 key modifier kit ANSI

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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #581 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:35:15 »
No it have not been made yet ever. It will be just like previous set, but with legend color in aquamarine/flamingo instead black/red...

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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #582 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:38:09 »
That Cyrillic set is so beautiful!  If only I weren't already ordering 2 sets from this round :(
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #583 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:45:32 »
But, next round payment due is a ways away, and you can have one of those Russian sets like right now! I can mail it tomorrow :D
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #584 on: Tue, 25 June 2013, 19:48:24 »
Yeah, but payments for this GB shouldn't be that far away though, I thought (I hope!!).  I should not be buying 3 expensive sets in a short time :)
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #585 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 06:46:53 »
Ordered again.

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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #586 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 17:49:07 »
Finally decided to make a cash sacrifice to my keyboard.  With plenty of time to decide if I want to stick with the basic black ANSI or go with something more... interesting.

If I tell my coworkers that my key caps cost more than my keyboard, they may just decide that I'm crazy.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #587 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:36:01 »
Updated OP which sets have green light for production MOQ. MAC, US Green and Scandinavia need about 10 more orders each if they are going to get to production.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #588 on: Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:54:54 »
Noooo come on, people, order GREEN! :)
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #589 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 00:59:48 »
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:36:01
Updated OP which sets have green light for production MOQ. MAC, US Green and Scandinavia need about 10 more orders each if they are going to get to production.

Nice, all my 4 sets have met MOQ :)

Hopefully next Round will have complete ISO sets. If that's not possible, I think offering ISO base sets like in the SP group buys (alphas, number row) might work. People could combine these with modifier sets they already have.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #590 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 03:28:42 »
So are people ordering sets for their looks rather than with the intention of actually making use of the cryllic/hangul/nordic etc? Some of them look fantastic and I am really liking the colors, it is just that I do not speak any languages that use the symbols.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #591 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 03:31:11 »
I think it's all for the looks, I mean most of us don't need to look at the keyboard while typing anyway...

Those secondary legends add a nice visual touch in my opinion :)

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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #592 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 05:24:00 »
Im gonna have to jump on this one.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #593 on: Thu, 27 June 2013, 08:33:01 »
Yes legends for me are all looks as well. Not even speaking the language never stopped me before from getting a keyset. For those that I do speak, I don't have Russian legended set on my primary keyboard, and with French I don't even bother to change from US layout and just let autocorrect deal with the accent characters... yes I know that is horribly lazy when I even have a proper French azerty keyboard.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #594 on: Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:12:38 »
Sadly I still have to look sometimes. So I guess my purchases are justified ;)
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #595 on: Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:50:26 »
Ivan you have so many options in this GB but wondering why not this:

- R1 x1 blanks
- R4 x1 blanks

someone with 1.5 - 1 -1.5 x7 layout will only need RGB + Esc BSP from Sherry and x7 cherry ABS space bar....
« Last Edit: Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:52:16 by bazemk1979 »
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #596 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 03:02:13 »
The keys are already made and in sets (or in the numbers for sets) - not made to order as individual keycaps, and the MOQ for new caps is 10,000

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:24:16
Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #597 on: Sat, 29 June 2013, 04:20:22 »
Maybe I can do B row key singles next time.
MOQs are closer... just a few more order for Mac, Green... Scandinavia not looking good.
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #598 on: Mon, 01 July 2013, 18:31:59 »
Quote from: asura link=topic=43328.msg94 5389#msg945389 date=1372492933
The keys are already made and in sets (or in the numbers for sets) - not made to order as individual keycaps, and the MOQ for new caps is 10,000

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:24:16
Problem is keys availability. imsto only have blue color 1.25 for singles, rest are in full sets which don't want to break up. New order with the factory for single 1.25 is 10,000 key. It's not going to be reasonable.

Just a litttttttle bit further...  :confused:
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Re: PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (NEW options!)
« Reply #599 on: Tue, 02 July 2013, 07:02:52 »
Eight days left all my 4 sets have met MOQ.

Can't wait to put them on my boards :)

Ivan, how long do you think it will be until you get the caps back from IMSTO? 2 months? 3 months?
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