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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 07:57:33 »
I wish I could have gone :(

Would have been nice to see some of your Alps boards.  The pickings were sparse.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:45:56 »
Overall, I thought it was a blast and I had tons-of-fun. This was the first one and although there were too many unknowns and things left to chance, everything came together rather nicely. Reading through all the feedback, I'm thrilled that everyone appeared to have a great time, would like to make it more awesome and come back next year.

There's always room for improvement in any event, regardless of how successful they are, below are my thoughts.

What I'd Like To See Next Time
1. Host the event at a hotel instead of a campus
   - Allows for reserving a block of rooms
   - Makes transportation easier since most hotels have shuttles
   - Allows for the Con to run a full-day, or possibly two days
   - Makes socializing easier after the official events

2. Have An official signup form
   - Allows for a proper headcount
   - No need to have people confirm
   - Capture Name tag information (choose what you want to see on your tag)

3. Charge A Registration Fee
   - Make it inexpensive, like $10
   - Can be used to cover lunch
   - Should be based on what the cost of the event is, minus vendor contributions
   - Requires that those that register commit to the event.

4. Assign Responsibilities
   - Dedicated "MC" to keep things on schedule and in order
   - Dedicated "A/V". Binge and Hoff did a great job and very grateful they took charge of it
   - A bunch of other small tasks that can be assigned to a volunteer

5. More Planning
   - You can never have enough, but...
   - Creating a specific agenda and then building around it
   - Registration of speakers/presenters
   - Specific events, opportunities for vendors to present/donate/participate

6. "Blue Sky" Ideas
   - Typing competition (mentioned already)
   - Workshops
      - How to make a USB Cable
      - How to lube a switch
      - etc
   - Spouse activities
   - Awards dinner
   - Sifo Photo Booth
      - Life-size cardboard cutout of Sifo
      - Get your picture taken with him
      - Multiple backdrops so you can have your photo in Paris, Hawaii, or the great pyramids.

7.  Make mashby the official KeyCon organizer.
8. Disallow any talking by mkawa

+1 on number 8 during presentations
And introductions

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:47:10 »
I wish I could have gone :(

Would have been nice to see some of your Alps boards.  The pickings were sparse.

I had a bunch of Alps boards but some of the guests sat in front of my table. I had a Siig Minitouch, a Dauphin DCK-84, and my modded Ducky 1087XM.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:51:43 »
Regarding Introductions and Socializing
We had a couple of challenges with this first KeyCon.
   - Our time was limited
   - Lunch was near the start of the event
   - We didn't have time to setup

Given that we only had 5 hours and didn't have access to the room until 11am, there was a lot of scrambling setting everything up at the start. That left us with less time than we actually had. Introductions were scheduled for the start of the event, but we were 30 minutes in before we could actually start the Con.

We had planned for the SmallFry remembrance prior to lunch and thankfully that took place as planned and then we had the break for lunch. However, coming out of lunch, presentations we pushed back because of introductions. All-in-all, we got everything in, it was just a bit out of order and took a bit longer than it should. If you combine the setup time with lunch, we technically only had 4 hours for the Conference.

These are not complaints, or apologies, but I wanted to give a little context and how things were laid out and why.

Thinking of Next Year
It's clear that people liked the presentations, but also wanted my socializing and to do that we simply need more time for the Conference.  I think we could strike a balance between presentations/workshops/socializing, but like every conference I've ever attended, there is never enough time to do everything. ;D

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 08:59:36 »
well, it's possible to have a badly run con with few participants in which things start to drag, but we definitely didn't get there. otoh it's a good thing we had so much cool stuff it was impossible to take it all in and go "meh, i'm done here", otoh we need more time for the next big organized event. DEFINITELY.

and yes, i do need to shut up.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:47:44 »
Less talk, more orgies!

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 10:54:08 »
I wish I could have gone :(

Would have been nice to see some of your Alps boards.  The pickings were sparse.

I had a bunch of Alps boards but some of the guests sat in front of my table. I had a Siig Minitouch, a Dauphin DCK-84, and my modded Ducky 1087XM.

A aargh!  I missed the Ducky.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:08:25 »
and yes, i do need to shut up.

Nah, you wouldn't be mkawa if you weren't in a constant state of high-speed, high-density information dispersal. ;D

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:11:37 »
Mingapedia would not be the same. Mkawa does have a good point though. HASHBAZ, WHERE WERE YOU??

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:14:12 »
I was home nursing a bad sunburn and being upset at myself for not making travel arrangements earlier.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:27:20 »
I'll forgive you this time Hashbaz...but only if I get to see you at the next Keycon :P

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:50:37 »
I was home nursing a bad sunburn and being upset at myself for not making travel arrangements earlier.

I was at home doing just about nothing and wishing that I had transportation...
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 13:52:13 »
I was hoping someone took pictures of sifo sleeping...  I was the disappoint.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 14:11:52 »
Oh, I got one...

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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:23:54 »
^  nice. Ya just never know who's watchin

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:41:18 »

and yes, i do need to shut up.

no. you provide a service. you kill the awkward silence. if you shut up it'd just be a bunch of people staring at each other.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 19:15:30 »

and yes, i do need to shut up.

no. you provide a service. you kill the awkward silence. if you shut up it'd just be a bunch of people staring at each other.

Awkward silence during presentations?   :p

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 19:19:17 »

and yes, i do need to shut up.

no. you provide a service. you kill the awkward silence. if you shut up it'd just be a bunch of people staring at each other.

Awkward silence presentations?   :p

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 19:23:59 »

and yes, i do need to shut up.

no. you provide a service. you kill the awkward silence. if you shut up it'd just be a bunch of people staring at each other.

Awkward silence presentations?   :p

Fixed and it sounds cool!

Wow, I read your fix first and didn't realize you changed it and thought "what the hell was I thinking writing that?"  I need to go home.

Your idea is pretty good though.  Next time!

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:41:16 »

and yes, i do need to shut up.

no. you provide a service. you kill the awkward silence. if you shut up it'd just be a bunch of people staring at each other.

+1.  Provide a service.  Time to start charging!
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:42:30 »
Overall, I thought it was a blast and I had tons-of-fun. This was the first one and although there were too many unknowns and things left to chance, everything came together rather nicely. Reading through all the feedback, I'm thrilled that everyone appeared to have a great time, would like to make it more awesome and come back next year.

There's always room for improvement in any event, regardless of how successful they are, below are my thoughts.

What I'd Like To See Next Time
1. Host the event at a hotel instead of a campus
   - Allows for reserving a block of rooms
   - Makes transportation easier since most hotels have shuttles
   - Allows for the Con to run a full-day, or possibly two days
   - Makes socializing easier after the official events

2. Have An official signup form
   - Allows for a proper headcount
   - No need to have people confirm
   - Capture Name tag information (choose what you want to see on your tag)

3. Charge A Registration Fee
   - Make it inexpensive, like $10
   - Can be used to cover lunch
   - Should be based on what the cost of the event is, minus vendor contributions
   - Requires that those that register commit to the event.

4. Assign Responsibilities
   - Dedicated "MC" to keep things on schedule and in order
   - Dedicated "A/V". Binge and Hoff did a great job and very grateful they took charge of it
   - A bunch of other small tasks that can be assigned to a volunteer

5. More Planning
   - You can never have enough, but...
   - Creating a specific agenda and then building around it
   - Registration of speakers/presenters
   - Specific events, opportunities for vendors to present/donate/participate

6. "Blue Sky" Ideas
   - Typing competition (mentioned already)
   - Workshops
      - How to make a USB Cable
      - How to lube a switch
      - etc
   - Spouse activities
   - Awards dinner
   - Sifo Photo Booth
      - Life-size cardboard cutout of Sifo
      - Get your picture taken with him
      - Multiple backdrops so you can have your photo in Paris, Hawaii, or the great pyramids.

I nominate mashby for Geekhack's 2014 KeyCon Czar & Grand Pooh Bah.  I also suggest that next year we all go to Nashville, TN, for two reasons:  (1) so it's easier for mashby to organize it; and (2) because talking to mashby made me want to go to Nashville.  But we can go anywhere that mashby wants us to go, if he is in charge.  (New York City is a nice place.)
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:46:40 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:49:09 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

Also I bet the hotels are cheaper in Nashville, TN, than hotels in NYC or even Chicago.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 20:53:06 »
The location should be mashby's house. See how easy that is?

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« Reply #124 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:13:15 »
The location should be mashby's house. See how easy that is?

Just bring your tents and we can camp out in his backyard
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« Reply #125 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:16:15 »
The location should be mashby's house. See how easy that is?

Just bring your tents and we can camp out in his backyard


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« Reply #126 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:42:51 »
The location should be mashby's house. See how easy that is?

Just bring your tents and we can camp out in his backyard


I got dibs on mashby's extra bedroom, but I'll let you guys camping in the back yard use my bathroom though.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:57:00 »
The location should be mashby's house. See how easy that is?

Just bring your tents and we can camp out in his backyard

+1  I would do this.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #128 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 00:14:16 »
and yes, i do need to shut up.

Nah, you wouldn't be mkawa if you weren't in a constant state of high-speed, high-density information dispersal. ;D
sometimes i need to shut up to let people mingle because keycon is time limited ;)


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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:11:14 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

Also I bet the hotels are cheaper in Nashville, TN, than hotels in NYC or even Chicago.

And better yet my wife is always wanting to go to Nashville!

I'm really quiet in person in case anyone was scared I'd talk the whole time.

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« Reply #130 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:24:11 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

Also I bet the hotels are cheaper in Nashville, TN, than hotels in NYC or even Chicago.

And better yet my wife is always wanting to go to Nashville!

I'm really quiet in person in case anyone was scared I'd talk the whole time.

I was picturing you running around the room going to each conversation in turn and making some remark, then moving on to the next one, and repeating.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #131 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:25:38 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

Also I bet the hotels are cheaper in Nashville, TN, than hotels in NYC or even Chicago.

And better yet my wife is always wanting to go to Nashville!

I'm really quiet in person in case anyone was scared I'd talk the whole time.

I was picturing you running around the room going to each conversation in turn and making some remark, then moving on to the next one, and repeating.

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« Reply #132 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:28:00 »
eth0s, you bring up an interesting point.  TN is central to the eastern half of the states, so that might be worth considering.  It'd provide a not-too-far location for even more people than doing NY or something like that.

Also I bet the hotels are cheaper in Nashville, TN, than hotels in NYC or even Chicago.

And better yet my wife is always wanting to go to Nashville!

I'm really quiet in person in case anyone was scared I'd talk the whole time.

I was picturing you running around the room going to each conversation in turn and making some remark, then moving on to the next one, and repeating.

I do get a little ADD sometimes but mostly just in my head. ;)


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« Reply #133 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:32:06 »
Captain's log, Stardate 8.20.13

The starship needs-to-finish-his-thesis has just landed at its home port in the greater LA area. I come back from Chicago bearing photos, stronger bonds with people that were friends on geekhack and now are so much more than that, and lessons, so many lessons..

The goal of my time as part of the rudder team of the starship geekhack has been to make the community both stronger and more sustainable. Some difficult decisions will need to be made to make that happen, just as they had to be made every month over month in this past year, and I, among other community members have taken some big risks to do what we can to make that happen.

Boilermaker at techkeys is one of those people, and I absolutely commend him not only for the awesome job he and mashby did with Keycon this past week, but also for his continuous and unceasing support of the community via sustainable group buys, donating his time and effort to do fulfillment for my early efforts at funding the geekhackers foundation, and for continuing to provide for the production of cool stuff within the community and publicity of that cool stuff outside the community to help it grow.

mashby and cptbadass are also among these people; their efforts at aggregating and making accessible the immense amount of knowledge spread across our community's many many members is to not only be encouraged but lauded. It is hard tiring work that pays only in a job well done.

And of course, with them, I must mention our dearly missed friend and family member SmallFry. He not only helped drive their efforts but was their mentor into our community and many many other peoples' mentor into our community. It is a testament to his strength, his caring and his intelligence that he continues to draw people into our community after his passing.

What I have learned from this visit is that it is people and community that not only make geekhack what it is, but that make society the generally pleasant place that it is, and that the greater geekhack community is just every one of us out there that likes to tinker, that likes to be an artisan, that likes geek out and hack up what is needed to make stuff happen; and that, frankly, is just about every person out there.

We are all friends and family, whether we are inside or outside of the community. SmallFry believed this with every fiber of his being, and as a continuing rudder team member, I'd like to make a few commitments publicly that I think will help keep me focused on this goal.

The first commitment is small but meaningful. It is that his mystery key three symbol aka the friends and family key, which I now believe to be the intermingling of vectors of current, electrons finding each other in the dark passageways of a conductor, will always be our flag, our call to action, and our sign of unity. The geekhack family of sites and the geekhackers foundation will all bear this icon as a reminder.

The second commitment is to grow this community to any limits we may find together, then to break those limits down and grow past them.

The third commitment is to never let an individual in the community suffer needlessly when something can be done to help them.

The fourth commitment is to never let money take advantage of the community. We are not a commodity. We are not for sale. We are happy to collaborate with commercial interests, to become small commercial interests ourselves, but we are a community of intelligent, caring, and strong individuals, not just some nameless sources of revenue.

That's what I learned at keycon, I think. You're obviously free to discuss because, as I've been saying a lot recently, that's kind of the point of this place.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:36:24 »
Well said sir!
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:37:10 »
tl;dr

as long as ming is there it'll be a great con
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 01:38:04 »
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 03:14:08 »
Captain's log, Stardate 8.20.13

The starship needs-to-finish-his-thesis has just landed at its home port in the greater LA area. I come back from Chicago bearing photos, stronger bonds with people that were friends on geekhack and now are so much more than that, and lessons, so many lessons..

The goal of my time as part of the rudder team of the starship geekhack has been to make the community both stronger and more sustainable. Some difficult decisions will need to be made to make that happen, just as they had to be made every month over month in this past year, and I, among other community members have taken some big risks to do what we can to make that happen.

Boilermaker at techkeys is one of those people, and I absolutely commend him not only for the awesome job he and mashby did with Keycon this past week, but also for his continuous and unceasing support of the community via sustainable group buys, donating his time and effort to do fulfillment for my early efforts at funding the geekhackers foundation, and for continuing to provide for the production of cool stuff within the community and publicity of that cool stuff outside the community to help it grow.

mashby and cptbadass are also among these people; their efforts at aggregating and making accessible the immense amount of knowledge spread across our community's many many members is to not only be encouraged but lauded. It is hard tiring work that pays only in a job well done.

And of course, with them, I must mention our dearly missed friend and family member SmallFry. He not only helped drive their efforts but was their mentor into our community and many many other peoples' mentor into our community. It is a testament to his strength, his caring and his intelligence that he continues to draw people into our community after his passing.

What I have learned from this visit is that it is people and community that not only make geekhack what it is, but that make society the generally pleasant place that it is, and that the greater geekhack community is just every one of us out there that likes to tinker, that likes to be an artisan, that likes geek out and hack up what is needed to make stuff happen; and that, frankly, is just about every person out there.

We are all friends and family, whether we are inside or outside of the community. SmallFry believed this with every fiber of his being, and as a continuing rudder team member, I'd like to make a few commitments publicly that I think will help keep me focused on this goal.

The first commitment is small but meaningful. It is that his mystery key three symbol aka the friends and family key, which I now believe to be the intermingling of vectors of current, electrons finding each other in the dark passageways of a conductor, will always be our flag, our call to action, and our sign of unity. The geekhack family of sites and the geekhackers foundation will all bear this icon as a reminder.

The second commitment is to grow this community to any limits we may find together, then to break those limits down and grow past them.

The third commitment is to never let an individual in the community suffer needlessly when something can be done to help them.

The fourth commitment is to never let money take advantage of the community. We are not a commodity. We are not for sale. We are happy to collaborate with commercial interests, to become small commercial interests ourselves, but we are a community of intelligent, caring, and strong individuals, not just some nameless sources of revenue.

That's what I learned at keycon, I think. You're obviously free to discuss because, as I've been saying a lot recently, that's kind of the point of this place.

Bravo!

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 07:45:39 »
Nicely said, mkawa.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 13:24:37 »
The positivity and encouragement for trying new things is what keeps me coming back here.   I have been a member of many online communities for various niche interests and this place has a less hostile atmosphere than any other online community.  Any person that gets out of line is called out quickly by the community.  And personal meetups only strengthen things.
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:38:03 »

to all the brilliant friends who have left us, and all the students who climb on their shoulders.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:39:52 »
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Wow.  That's a very moving picture...

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:42:14 »
The feels  :'(
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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 14:42:19 »
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Why are you putting things in my eye, ming?  Stop it.

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Re: Keycon After thoughts?
« Reply #145 on: Wed, 21 August 2013, 15:58:10 »
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Thank you for posting that picture.  I would love to see the other pictures from your visit.