[IC] Where can I get 100g+ springs

[MOZ]

I would like to try some really stiff springs, the 80g I am using on the blues right now is great, but I would like to try some more stiffer ones.

Where can I source some 100g, 120g, 150g even? Anyone know where?

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I couldn't find a better section. Fell free to move to correct section.

[esoomenona]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46595.0 ? Buy these, take the springs out, and sell the switches? I think that should be right...

[linziyi]

CPTbadass suggested using the ballpoint pen springs, I love heavy spring too but too lazy to desolder and mod my switches :S

[CPTBadAss]

Good question for Simple Questions I think.

There are springs that exist in the range you want but they're REALLY rare and you won't find a full board of them. Why not try a pen spring? That seems to be a popular answer for this question.

[SpAmRaY]

That is a good question. I'd be in for some also.

[linziyi]

We should organize a group buy maybe? Providing that we can find the supplier for springs

[CPTBadAss]

CPTbadass suggested using the ballpoint pen springs, I love heavy spring too but too lazy to desolder and mod my switches :S

We should organize a group buy maybe? Providing that we can find the supplier for springs

So you're too busy to mod your board but you're volunteering to run a GB? Weird priorities

[MOZ]

Good question for Simple Questions I think.

There are springs that exist in the range you want but they're REALLY rare and you won't find a full board of them. Why not try a pen spring? That seems to be a popular answer for this question.

I have tried the spring from a number of pens now, however they lack consistency. I also feel that they will wear out much sooner. Some that I tried started to feel lighter after a week of abuse.

[MOZ]

We should organize a group buy maybe? Providing that we can find the supplier for springs

I'd be in, given we can find a supplier and most important thing is the springs have to be consistent.

Anyone know the source for the Originative springs, they seem to be quite well manufactured.

[oTurtlez]

Good question for Simple Questions I think.

There are springs that exist in the range you want but they're REALLY rare and you won't find a full board of them. Why not try a pen spring? That seems to be a popular answer for this question.

I have tried the spring from a number of pens now, however they lack consistency. I also feel that they will wear out much sooner. Some that I tried started to feel lighter after a week of abuse.

Buy some clears, take the springs and sell me the stems

[esoomenona]

Are Clears in that range? If so, I could spare the springs from mine...

[oTurtlez]

Are Clears in that range? If so, I could spare the springs from mine...

If we're talking bottom out force yeah, clears are the heaviest AFAIK.

[SpAmRaY]

Good question for Simple Questions I think.

There are springs that exist in the range you want but they're REALLY rare and you won't find a full board of them. Why not try a pen spring? That seems to be a popular answer for this question.

I have tried the spring from a number of pens now, however they lack consistency. I also feel that they will wear out much sooner. Some that I tried started to feel lighter after a week of abuse.

Buy some clears, take the springs and sell me the stems

I don't find clears heavy  at all.

[esoomenona]

If OP deems them to be what he's looking for, he can send me a PM and I will send him Clear springs.

[MOZ]

Aren't the clear springs as stiff as the blacks?

We need accurate data on the Cherry MX switch springs! 

[TheSoulhunter]

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

[CPTBadAss]

Aren't the clear springs as stiff as the blacks?

We need accurate data on the Cherry MX switch springs! 

Rkinze grants your wish: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

[MOZ]

If OP deems them to be what he's looking for, he can send me a PM and I will send him Clear springs.

Thank You moose, but I will find out first if they are in fact heavier.

[MOZ]

Rkinze grants your wish: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

I've seen the thread, he didn't mention actual "source" of the heavy and light springs. Also, he didn't test the clears.

However, I say your spring swap thread, did yiu actually notice a considerable difference between the black and clear springs, if yes, how much?

[oTurtlez]

Rkinze grants your wish: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

I've seen the thread, he didn't mention actual "source" of the heavy and light springs. Also, he didn't test the clears.

However, I say your spring swap thread, did yiu actually notice a considerable difference between the black and clear springs, if yes, how much?

He did test the clears alone actually. 90g is what he states, though the DT wiki says 100cN which could convert to 90g, not sure.

[CPTBadAss]

Rkinze grants your wish: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46449.0

I've seen the thread, he didn't mention actual "source" of the heavy and light springs. Also, he didn't test the clears.

However, I say your spring swap thread, did yiu actually notice a considerable difference between the black and clear springs, if yes, how much?

Quote directly from that article:

So far, I have measured 6 spring types:
Genuine Cherry MX "clear"

And I think that the clears are heavier than Blacks. It's probably the same feeling as the jump from stock Blue springs to 65g. I have no ACTUAL data though unlike rkinze. Might wanna read more carefully 

100cN which could convert to 90g, not sure.

1.0197 g = 1 cN

[MOZ]

98g bottoming out is pretty good, however I would like to go for something even stiffer if possible.

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

Thanks. Will check it out.

[linziyi]

Greens and Dark Greys bottom out at 120cN

[MOZ]

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

Checked. They don't have anything fitting our needs, will have to make special enquiry.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

[oTurtlez]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

That sounds intense. I'm gonna try this with two black springs when I get home. Ghetto Super Blacks!

[SpAmRaY]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

[MOZ]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

Yes, it is for keyboards.

I like them heavy, that is why. As for merging, interesting take. So one top of another or coiled between each other. HAVE.TO.TRY

[WhiteFireDragon]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

That sounds intense. I'm gonna try this with two black springs when I get home. Ghetto Super Blacks!

It doesn't work this way. Adding 2 springs together doesn't simply add up the force. It's more like an exponential increase in tension. Try two blacks, and you'll see it'll be too heavy to be a usable switch. That's why I suggested combining two lightest springs. Last time I measured, I think I was able to almost get 300g with two heavy springs (forgot which ones exactly).

[WhiteFireDragon]

Yes, it is for keyboards. I like them heavy, that is why. As for merging, interesting take. So one top of another or coiled between each other. HAVE.TO.TRY

One on top of another won't work. You'll have to put them parallel with each other, then "merge" them so they look like 1 spring.

[oTurtlez]

Is this for keyboards or another application? Not sure why you need a spring so stiff if it's for keyboards. If it's for keyboards, try merging two stock red/brown/blue spring inside the switch.

That sounds intense. I'm gonna try this with two black springs when I get home. Ghetto Super Blacks!

It doesn't work this way. Adding 2 springs together doesn't simply add up the force. It's more like an exponential increase in tension. Try two blacks, and you'll see it'll be too heavy to be a usable switch. That's why I suggested combining two lightest springs. Last time I measured, I think I was able to almost get 300g with two heavy springs (forgot which ones exactly).

One on top of the other or inside of eachother?

[esoomenona]

Stand them up right next to each other, then push them towards each other and watch how one moves into the other.

[WhiteFireDragon]

One on top of the other or inside of eachother?

I think I just answered that on the post right above while you were typing.

One on top of the other is a super long spring, it won't work well. Inside of each other is what you'd want.

[linziyi]

make them intertwine I think, still need to work out the physics behind it to figure out the result spring force

[oTurtlez]

One on top of the other or inside of eachother?

I think I just answered that on the post right above while you were typing.

One on top of the other is a super long spring, it won't work well. Inside of each other is what you'd want.

That you did sir. I can report results and see how this goes. I've also got 55, 62, and 65g I can try to see if those are any different.

[MOZ]

One on top of the other or inside of eachother?

I think I just answered that on the post right above while you were typing.

One on top of the other is a super long spring, it won't work well. Inside of each other is what you'd want.

That you did sir. I can report results and see how this goes. I've also got 55, 62, and 65g I can try to see if those are any different.

Great you can do a complete test, with different springs combined. Please do report findings.

[Leslieann]

Merging two would be fine on most switches (if it doesn't bottom out the spring since you have twice the coils), but on a blue switch, the slight offset could snag the various parts inside a blue stem. Blues can be fickle this way. Test every switch for excess friction before you button it up.

Other alternatives:
If you know someone with a 3d printer, they could print off small spacer to up the pressure. Just a simple washer is all you need.
Not that they are for everyone, but Jailhouse Blues, with uncut green spring should get you between 95 and 115 grams activation force.
You could also use the "o-ring method" of Jailhouse Blues, but instead of the o-ring at the top making them Jailhouse Blues, put the o-ring in the bottom. I'm not sure how well this would work, it's just a theory.

[The_Beast]

I think grays have the highest of any stock switch. I'm pretty sure they are heavier than clears by a bit.


That being said, I could also use a few gray springs!

[yasuo]

try before with spring grey 80g more stiffer than spring green
or you buy hall effect keyboard ) is most stiffer switch
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Honeywell_Hall_Effect

[MOZ]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

[oTurtlez]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

I tried two blacks and it was well over 250g. That thing was frightening. I then tried two 55g's and it appeared that any spring with a tight coil arrangement will not work, simply because the other spring gets in the way and it locks the switch at full upright. Oh well :/

[MOZ]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

I tried two blacks and it was well over 250g. That thing was frightening. I then tried two 55g's and it appeared that any spring with a tight coil arrangement will not work, simply because the other spring gets in the way and it locks the switch at full upright. Oh well :/

I confirm thy results.

[SpAmRaY]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

I tried two blacks and it was well over 250g. That thing was frightening. I then tried two 55g's and it appeared that any spring with a tight coil arrangement will not work, simply because the other spring gets in the way and it locks the switch at full upright. Oh well :/

You guys are crazy!! 

[yasuo]

I interest on Thread
guess when really really realized

[oTurtlez]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

I tried two blacks and it was well over 250g. That thing was frightening. I then tried two 55g's and it appeared that any spring with a tight coil arrangement will not work, simply because the other spring gets in the way and it locks the switch at full upright. Oh well :/

You guys are crazy!! 

Well, it was all in the name of...

[SpAmRaY]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

I tried two blacks and it was well over 250g. That thing was frightening. I then tried two 55g's and it appeared that any spring with a tight coil arrangement will not work, simply because the other spring gets in the way and it locks the switch at full upright. Oh well :/

You guys are crazy!! 

Well, it was all in the name of...

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Need as much of that around here as possible!! ;)

[linziyi]

Reply from originative.co:

How heavy are you looking for?

Are you going to have a huge order?  I can get in a private order.

Kind Regards

Sheraton

[yasuo]

Spring Super Black @from EBAY

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[MOZ]

Link please?

[TheSoulhunter]

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

Checked. They don't have anything fitting our needs, will have to make special enquiry.

They got
~ 50g actuation / 100g bottom out
and
~ 128g actuation / 256g bottom out
it seems >.>

[linziyi]

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

Checked. They don't have anything fitting our needs, will have to make special enquiry.

They got
50g actuation / 100g bottom out
and
128g actuation / 256g bottom out
it seems >.>

What springs are you talking about?

[TheSoulhunter]

http://www.schweizer-federnshop.de/index.php/cat/c2_Compression-Springs.html

Checked. They don't have anything fitting our needs, will have to make special enquiry.

They got
50g actuation / 100g bottom out
and
128g actuation / 256g bottom out
it seems >.>

What springs are you talking about?

RDF-1223, RDF-1224, RDF-1277, RDF-1278

[linziyi]

I don't think they are compatible for cherry switches......

[TheSoulhunter]

I don't think they are compatible for cherry switches......

Not sure...

Stock clear spring: L ~13 mm / D ~3.3mm
RDF-1223 spring: L 12.7 mm / D 3.2 mm

[TheSoulhunter]

But yeah, perhaps we should do a custom enquiry for 35/70g, 40/80g, 50/100g springs at exact dimensions... GB anyone? :3

[linziyi]

Reply from originative.co:

How heavy are you looking for?

Are you going to have a huge order?  I can get in a private order.

Kind Regards

Sheraton

Already talking to the originative people

[MOZ]

Reply from originative.co:

How heavy are you looking for?

Are you going to have a huge order?  I can get in a private order.

Kind Regards

Sheraton

Already talking to the originative people

If you want, you can do an IC, or I can start it, I have no issues.

[linziyi]

still waiting for reply for MOQ and available options

[The_Ed]

There are 3 rare switches made by cherry that are in the range you want: MX Super Black (linear), MX Ultra Blue (clicky), and MX Super Grey (clicky) -> (I was actually the one who coined Super Grey long ago, though I have yet to acquire any of the Super/Ultra switches...). Ultra is the term designated for switches that are stiffer than Super, and Super is already stiffer than current production. There is probably a Super/Ultra tactile switch out there, but it has yet to be discovered.

[yasuo]

Link please?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEERY-MX-SUPER-BLACK-150cn-150g-keyboard-switch-Extremely-RARE-/281135270615?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4174f7cad7

There are 3 rare switches made by cherry that are in the range you want: MX Super Black (linear), MX Ultra Blue (clicky), and MX Super Grey (clicky) -> (I was actually the one who coined Super Grey long ago, though I have yet to acquire any of the Super/Ultra switches...). Ultra is the term designated for switches that are stiffer than Super, and Super is already stiffer than current production. There is probably a Super/Ultra tactile switch out there, but it has yet to be discovered.

Thanks your info

Ultra blue or Navy Blue, I just found out super grey is clicky not tactile,
Linear:Super black
Clicky:Ultra blue,super grey
Tactile:??

any pict? it better

[The_Ed]

I believe there was someone who said that there is a red dot on the bottom of Super Black switches, and that pic doesn't show the bottom...

[linziyi]

Ok the MOQ of custom springs is 3000 from originativeco, anyone interested?

[yasuo]

I interest
but not sure

[MOZ]

Ok the MOQ of custom springs is 3000 from originativeco, anyone interested?

What weight? Pricing?

[linziyi]

I think we should do an interest check and see what people wants. I will ask for pricing.

[SpAmRaY]

Ok the MOQ of custom springs is 3000 from originativeco, anyone interested?

So we need 30 people to get 100 springs.

[The_Ed]

28 at 110... You wouldn't want people who have fullsize boards to have to order 2 sets of 100.

[linziyi]

It would be $5 for 100 spring, not bad at all!

[SpAmRaY]

28 at 110... You wouldn't want people who have fullsize boards to have to order 2 sets of 100.

Ed's math makes more sense.

[linziyi]

Interest form up, need some suggestion about the google form...

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1EyLr5betaTEtO7Sa4vhpQyLXUkYltfuHAOsLD9anLe4/viewform

Would migrate this to a separate thread if enough interest is shown!

[yasuo]

What compatible with alps?

[MOZ]

Email coming linziyi

[yasuo]

hi mohitag
what you choose spring?

[MOZ]

I would go for 100g, 120g and 150g, anything heavier will be too much I think

[TheSoulhunter]

Voted 70 and 120 :3

[MOZ]

Hold your horses there is a proper IC incoming, working out the kinks right now.

[linziyi]

I want 350g springs

[SpAmRaY]

I want 350g springs

^^ that's what this guy said 

[Thimplum]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

[MOZ]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

My keyboard was singing clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click

[Thimplum]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

My keyboard was singing clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click

I've had 2 or 3 days like that.

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

What KB are you using now?

At the moment I'm on an ASUS laptop, with a chiclet keyboard. It's actually not half bad for a laptop keyboard.

[The_Ed]

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

Don't go the way of Ripster... You'll get perma-banned if you post too much...

[SpAmRaY]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

that's what they all say....

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

Don't go the way of Ripster... You'll get perma-banned if you post too much...

That almost sounds like a challenge 

[Thimplum]

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

Don't go the way of Ripster... You'll get perma-banned if you post too much...

I don't spam in the same way as Ripster. Plus I only have 420 posts now, not 58,000 or whatever it was.

[MOZ]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

My keyboard was singing clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click

I've had 2 or 3 days like that.

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

What KB are you using now?

At the moment I'm on an ASUS laptop, with a chiclet keyboard. It's actually not half bad for a laptop keyboard.

Laptop chiclet and BWU Cherry MX Blue

[Thimplum]

I tried the dual 80g spring merge mod, and even my beast of a fingers had to bow down to the stiffness. Waaaaaaaaaay too stiff.

Haha! That reminds me of my friend's baby grand.

How did you get so many posts‽!? I swear that you were at 100 posts just a minute ago...

My keyboard was singing clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click clickity clack clack click clack clickity clickity claclk clickity click

I've had 2 or 3 days like that.

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

What KB are you using now?

At the moment I'm on an ASUS laptop, with a chiclet keyboard. It's actually not half bad for a laptop keyboard.

Laptop chiclet and BWU Cherry MX Blue

Just one more post and you'll be at 400! You can do it!

[MOZ]

Where is the milestones thread? Oh, shacks, nevermind.

[SpAmRaY]

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

Don't go the way of Ripster... You'll get perma-banned if you post too much...

I don't spam in the same way as Ripster. Plus I only have 420 posts now, not 58,000 or whatever it was.

But how do you know how Ripster spammed?? I never experienced it.

[The_Ed]

Ripster's spam was the only spam worth reading as he would actually integrate real help and knowledge into some of his posts.

[Thimplum]

Where is the milestones thread? Oh, shacks, nevermind.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37647.0

It's so satisfying when all of the first ten threads in "keyboards" say "last post by Thimplum"

Don't go the way of Ripster... You'll get perma-banned if you post too much...

I don't spam in the same way as Ripster. Plus I only have 420 posts now, not 58,000 or whatever it was.

But how do you know how Ripster spammed?? I never experienced it.

If you read the old threads, you can see his posts when people quoted him.

Plus, he's banned on Deskthority, but his posts weren't deleted.

Or on OCN.

Or on reddit.

[TheSoulhunter]

Ripster's spam was the only spam worth reading as he would actually integrate real help and knowledge into some of his posts.

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I miss Ripster, for the great amount of information he posted, AND FOR HIS SPAM (because usually it was the fun sort of spam)!

[yasuo]

1000 g ) for winkey

[yasuo]

I want 120g for noob before to very heavy

[linziyi]

Have we got the updated poll website yet?

[MOZ]

Sherraton is still in tsljs wuth the supplier. Waiting for his reply.

[MOZ]

MOQ is very high, 50,000 for above 100g, I doubt we'll ever hit those numbers.

[SpAmRaY]

MOQ is very high, 50,000 for above 100g, I doubt we'll ever hit those numbers.

 

[linziyi]

Oh Shiz... I thought it was 3000, that's what he told me anyway

[MOZ]

Oh Shiz... I thought it was 3000, that's what he told me anyway

That is for the springs he has, he was confused too.

[Thimplum]

MOQ is very high, 50,000 for above 100g, I doubt we'll ever hit those numbers.

At that quantity what's the price per spring?

[MOZ]

$5 for 100.

[yasuo]

what price 1pack spring?

[MOZ]

I have had confirmation from Originative, that we would need 500 orders for 100 springs a pack for any ONE weight over 100g, and it would cost $5-$6, the reason are that these springs will be made for the first time by his supplier.

[yasuo]

I have had confirmation from Originative, that we would need 500 orders for 100 springs a pack for any ONE weight over 100g, and it would cost $5-$6, the reason are that these springs will be made for the first time by his supplier.

Thanks,quite cheap
any picture the spring

[MOZ]

I don't think you quite get it, we need to order 50,000 springs!

These will be manufactured for the first time, thus there are no pictures.

[yasuo]

I don't think you quite get it, we need to order 50,000 springs!

These will be manufactured for the first time, thus there are no pictures.

[SpAmRaY]

We need some heavy springs...





...this guy especially.

[TheSoulhunter]

I think I simply gonna order from that shop I linked to see if the springs fit...

[MOZ]

I think I simply gonna order from that shop I linked to see if the springs fit...

That would be great, please do report your findings, and then maybe we can have a GB.

The dealer Originative use, has asked for much too high a MOQ.

[SpAmRaY]

Necro bump to say sprit has listed 100g springs here on his order form

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OLIsYexDuT04yNUyQPN9_Qqf5ohALeQAPQAtjw4oRxM/viewform?edit_requested=true