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Offline Hakatype

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[IC] KAM Soaring Skies
« on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:20:40 »
KAM Soaring Skies
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Hi y’all, Hakata here! I’m happy to present to all of you my latest project, KAM Soaring Skies.
This set was inspired by the airplane liveries I’d see at the airport when visiting my family in Japan growing up.
I still look back very fondly on looking out the window seat and seeing all of the pretty designs, and I wanted to bring that childhood feeling to life!

[IC Form]

To follow this set’s progress, you can check out [KAM Soaring Skies channel in the Keycraft Collective Discord]



Design Overview

Profile: Glossy KAM
Fonts: Menco Bold (Latin), Yasashisa Gothic Bold V2 (ひらがな)
Colors: Pantone Reflex Blue & 305U, K100


These colors were shot under moderate, indirect sunlight.


 K100 is a neutral white, used in KAT Alpha (for reference).




Kitting Disclaimer

As a heads up, all of my kitting was done in Illustrator using the 2-D KAM template, as my background and education is in 2-D Design. This comes with some minor issues that I am aware of, something I am currently remedying by learning blender. The next iteration of the kitting will be rendered in 3-D to resolve these issues.

Most notably, you will see the difference in color between my .ai files and renders, which is a known issue with Adobe software. Adobe isn’t particularly good at showing my Pantone colors accurately, so please refer to the colors above. Additionally, the wing novelty will need its dimensions adjusted to better fit the ‘Enter’ key.


Kitting

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Renders

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U80 by RAMA Works


Ikki68 Aurora by Wuque Studios


Nemui by Bachoo





GB Date

The absolute earliest that this set could be manufactured is 2022 according to Keyreative. I would estimate a Q1 2022 GB at the earliest.



Questions

Why does this set look like KAT Great Wave?
UPDATE: I have spoken with the designers behind the set and they are fine with it. Still, it’s a totally reasonable question, and I must admit that the two look very similar. That said, the emphasis on the stripe is simpler on KAM Soaring Skies and meant to emulate the livery of ANA airlines with colors to more closely align with that. This set was developed independently of KAT Great Wave and I hope that the differences in inspiration, font, colors, and kitting/profile can demonstrate that.

Why is your set not fully rendered?
I just started learning Blender this week. Since I am still learning, rendering this set in full will happen when kitting is sorted out in IC, and improving renders as I go. Especially given the amount of adjustments KAM may necessitate, it’s easier for me to demo or modify kitting in a program I am more familiar with, and finalize it afterwards. This being my first set, I will be learning along the way! (Blender tips appreciated)

No NorDe support?
My focus on the set was Japanese sublegends since I am a hafu, so I was wary of adding other languages to the set. I do have more specific ISO/UK support as a kit option, and there should be basic ISO coverage in the base/TKL mods kit. Apologies for my America-centric mindset, but if there’s enough demand for NorDe, I will reconsider.

What about Hiragana-only alphas?
This set has cultural significance to me, and as far as I'm aware of JIS boards, this wouldn't be accurate to a Japanese board. While I don't mind the addition of new kits, I will most likely not budge on this one.

Why does the base kit not have __?
The base kit is meant as a “designer’s intention for the board”, if you will. This means it has text mods and the stripe in QWERTY (might change depending on feedback), in an effort to reduce the necessary keys and make it a simpler/cheaper purchase for most users. If you would like a 60-75% board to have something else such as icon mods, no sublegends, alt layout support, there is an Alpha + Mods kit combination to suit your needs.





To-Do List

- Fix Current Renders
- Finish kitting with IC feedback
- Reddit IC
- Adjust 1 novelty icon to fit KAM specifications
- Finish rendering kits in 3-D
- Acquire vendors
- Get samples
- Solidify GB Date
- Collabs



Special Thanks To...

    • Keycraft Collective - An amazing group of up and coming designers in the scene, thank you for all the feedback and support! I’d name all of you in specific but there are too many of you to thank <3
    • Folks in CKC Voice Chat - Whether you're still there or not, y'all have made this project so much more fun than I ever expected it to be
    • Swishy - Your kitting advice helped me so much, thank you for taking time out of your day all those months ago. 80’s After Dark was a huge inspiration for the kitting, and a wonderful set as well.
    • Nhils - Your blender gifs really helped me navigate the UI hellscape that is blender, and I am grateful for the time you took to help me out
    • mini - For proofreading this word salad of an IC and helping with the bbcode, editing is often thankless work but really important too!
    To anyone who’s been there who’s been there throughout the design process and watched this set come along, I really couldn’t have done this without your support, so a special thanks goes out to all of you!

    if you would like to support this set, consider adding this URL to your signature! {img width=480 height=120}https://i.imgur.com/Ui52wsu.png{/img} (replace the curly brackets with square brackets)

    « Last Edit: Wed, 26 May 2021, 20:19:23 by Hakatype »

    Offline MIGHTY CHICKEN

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #1 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:25:18 »
    Please do consider more kits such as Norde, icon mods, text icon mods, etc. I do love them all and KAM has a good moq system for making lots of kits.

    Would pref if you gave an option to remove the gradient and not force accent enter/arrows, I am not a fan of accent arrows very much.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #2 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:28:56 »
    not a fan of text mods, would love to see icon.  Also why the forced enter

    Offline Hakatype

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #3 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:30:52 »
    Please do consider more kits such as Norde, icon mods, text icon mods, etc. I do love them all and KAM has a good moq system for making lots of kits.

    Would pref if you gave an option to remove the gradient and not force accent enter/arrows, I am not a fan of accent arrows very much.

    The stripe is supposed to be optional for those who buy the alphas kit and mods kit of their choosing, though if I am missing a key somewhere do let me know. My intention for the stripe was that it is optional if you so choose with the Alphas Kit and Mods, with the base just being the original intention for the set. The alpha kit should also leave users the option to use the stripe even if they are using a non-QWERTY layout such as Colemak or Dvorak.

    I will definitely look into more icon kits. I have been eyeing the misonocons for a little while.

    EDIT for clarity

    Offline 2fifty3

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #4 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:41:11 »
    These colors are awesome and I love the text mods! The alphas + ortho kits look great looking forward to another GB for a nice Shiny KAM set!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #5 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:50:29 »
    Great wave, is that you?

    lol, jk. Those renders seem a little... scuffed? But those colors seem to work pretty well together  :thumb:
    « Last Edit: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:53:40 by NovaRMK »

    Offline Hakatype

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #6 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 22:57:18 »
    Great wave, is that you?

    lol, jk. Those renders seem a little... scuffed? But those colors seem to work pretty well together  :thumb:

    Oh boy, I was expecting that comment to pop up at some point.

    As for the rendering, if you (or anyone, really) have any advice, it's certainly welcome! My guess is that the shadows reflecting off of the caps are white for some reason?

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #7 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 23:02:05 »
    the renders are weird because the top of the caps aren't reflecting light. love the alphas colours but i would love it if they could fill up more space on the face of the cap, feels a bit empty for me. that being said, i can definitely get behind this set's theme, and i love it very much. good luck!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #8 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 23:05:23 »
    I had to do a double-take, but the light blue swath through 1, Q, A, Z, Alt really caught my eye. Also, Reflex Blue was my favorite blue to use back in my graphic design days.

    I dig the novelties, a lot really, but if I had any suggestion it would be to use more airport terminal symbology. Or even try to work in the Airport codes that inspired you into one? Anyway, just a thought.
    A-a-ron

    Offline Hakatype

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #9 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 23:13:21 »
    the renders are weird because the top of the caps aren't reflecting light. love the alphas colours but i would love it if they could fill up more space on the face of the cap, feels a bit empty for me. that being said, i can definitely get behind this set's theme, and i love it very much. good luck!

    Perfect, I'll definitely be fixing that then. Thank you so much for pointing it out!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #10 on: Mon, 17 May 2021, 23:56:04 »
    I love the color scheme!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #11 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 01:21:52 »
    I am all here for this!! Love the colors and the cute touch of the light blue gradient, Hakata 💖 GLWIC!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #12 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 02:35:38 »
    I am in love with the vertical stripe. That look is almost tempting me to think about a row stagger board again, just to get that slanted stripe. Glossy finish also fits this set wonderfully and I love the theme and its significance for you. It all comes together nicely. Great work!

    My only suggestion would be to add some keys in the accent color to the numpad. I use an external numpad and as it stands without the accent, it'd look a bit boring next to the alphas with the vertical stripe.

    It's been great to follow your progress and finally see this in IC. Best of luck, Hakata!
         

    Offline Runningtarrens

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #13 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 08:09:31 »
    looks good but without NorDe and no homing kit i would not consider getting this. KAM supports so many layouts, it would be a shame to not having an extended homing kit.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #14 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 10:19:32 »
    I really like the look of this, and I'm thrilled to see another kit with JIS support! I filled in the IC form, but I have a couple of comments regarding the JIS support to make here:

    • It might be nice to consider including alternatives with and without hiragana sublegends, so that the JIS kit can be matched with either the International/Base kits or the Domestic kit. Whether this is best approached as two alternative JIS kits or one kit containing both sets of keys, I'm not sure.
    • Your current JIS kit, however, is a bit of an unfortunate mix of both.  The numbers all have kana sublegends (and those look correct to me), but the symbols do not. The top row symbols also look wrong to me, from a JIS perspective, and there are other issues that only become obvious when you include sublegends:
      • Where you have [_ -] it should be [= - ほ].
      • You are missing the [~ ^ へ] key entirely.
      • The [| ¥] key is missing the [ー] (chō onpu) sublegend.
      • Where currently you don't need a second-row [{ [] key, if you add sublegends you will, because its sublegend is [゛] in base and [゜] in JIS.
      • [~ `] is not a key that exists in JIS as far as I am aware, so not sure why it's in this kit.
      • For the sake of completeness, here are the sublegends on the remaining keys (whose symbols look correct to me): [+ ; れ], [* : け], [} ] む], [_ \ ろ]. This last key should be on the bottom alpha row after [/ ? め], which I think you know but just in case it isn't clear to anyone reading from looking at the diagram.

    As someone who actually uses kana-style input to type Japanese, I think it would frustrate me to have sublegends on some keys, but not on others. I wouldn't mind having no kana sublegends at all, or having them on everything, but having a mix would feel weird.

    My only other comment is that for an airline/ANA based theme like this one I might have chosen a more neutral font for the Japanese, like Gensen Maru Gothic, which I think is a good match for the rounded style of your Latin characters. But, the handwriting font you have right now is cute, so it wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #15 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 10:22:20 »
    This is such a lovely set, I adore the diagonal/vertical stripe along the single row, it's so unique and indeed super aviation-feeling!

    I am usually icon-mods-only but the font is super lovely and feels very on theme. Is there any room for icon mods inside of rounded squares, like the Narita signage? Super fun to watch this evolve from DSA to this very thoughtful KAM set over the last 5? 6? months?

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #16 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 10:30:24 »
    this is such an interesting idea, though i think the font choice makes the set look a bit more like toy airplanes instead of classy airport. you mentioned that the idea was to have this whole set in glossy, so i think that's the most important thing to fix about your renders. just set the roughness to 0 or something. GLWIC, this idea has lots of potential!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #17 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 12:38:34 »
    As someone who actually uses kana-style input to type Japanese, I think it would frustrate me to have sublegends on some keys, but not on others. I wouldn't mind having no kana sublegends at all, or having them on everything, but having a mix would feel weird.

    My only other comment is that for an airline/ANA based theme like this one I might have chosen a more neutral font for the Japanese, like Gensen Maru Gothic, which I think is a good match for the rounded style of your Latin characters. But, the handwriting font you have right now is cute, so it wouldn't be a showstopper for me.

    Thank you so much for this feedback, this kind of kitting advice is super helpful and I'm honestly shocked to not have considered an option for non-sublegend alphas in the JIS kit (especially when I did for standard ISO... lol). I was hoping for someone with JIS knowledge to give pointers and this will go a long way towards ensuring the accuracy of the kitting I need!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #18 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 17:00:50 »
    You're UK-ISO 3 has a € instead of a £.
    Your base kit 1u Pipes should be Alpha coloured.
    You're also missing the >/< key so that Terminal ISO can be used.

    Other than that looks nice, GLWIC

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #19 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 17:09:02 »
    This really hits the nostalgia from my Japan trips and makes me want to go back, I'm looking forward to this set! (though I might just save up and go to japan too at this point haha)

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #20 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 17:34:04 »
    Cute theme, just noticed the header image is a plane ticket

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #21 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 01:08:16 »
    https://vala.supply/products/kat-great-wave

    You might want to take a look at this

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #22 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 17:23:46 »
    You might want to take a look at this

    Hey Shiba! I addressed this in my IC, and I am well aware of Great Wave. I do believe that this set does set itself apart for the reasons stated. Figured the comparisons were inevitable (and understandable) but I will continue onward regardless. By the time this set is completed according to the changes I will have to make and the standards I have for this project, I think it will be far enough behind Great Wave to not be an issue for either party.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #23 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 17:38:49 »
    Personally, even though the colors are similar (which is a touch difficult to avoid given that Great Wave was a gradient set that nabbed a lot of the blue spectrum), I think the theming is strong and self-consistent enough for this set to stand alone and apart. Maybe the shades could be shifted, but they're also reasonably true to ANA as-is.

    Out of curiosity, have you spoken with the designers behind Great Wave about the color similarities? It might be an important courtesy in the community to check in with them.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #24 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 17:58:27 »
    Personally, even though the colors are similar (which is a touch difficult to avoid given that Great Wave was a gradient set that nabbed a lot of the blue spectrum), I think the theming is strong and self-consistent enough for this set to stand alone and apart. Maybe the shades could be shifted, but they're also reasonably true to ANA as-is.

    Out of curiosity, have you spoken with the designers behind Great Wave about the color similarities? It might be an important courtesy in the community to check in with them.

    I have not, though I will definitely reach out to them at some point soon, and update when it happens. It's definitely hard to make another blue set in this space with all those colors being used!

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #25 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:21:18 »
    UPDATE on the set similarities:

    I have spoken to the designers of KAT Great Wave and they were cool with my set. If you're here you probably already know about them but I will still suggest you check their set out because it's cool and they're cool.

    https://vala.supply/products/kat-great-wave

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #26 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:51:16 »
    i'm a fan of this set! it does an excellent job of calling back to the inspiration with just the colors :-)

    i'll echo what a couple other folks have already mentioned which is that the font you chose for the hiragana looks handwriting-y/a bit childish to me which clashes with the theme a bit (imo) -- but it is very cute and wouldn't be a dealbreaker. glwic!

    (also, as someone who's nikkei/hafu as well, i was super surprised that omiage is also a valid reading for omiyage! looked it up because i had never seen that spelling before.)

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #27 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:46:41 »
    i'm a fan of this set! it does an excellent job of calling back to the inspiration with just the colors :-)

    i'll echo what a couple other folks have already mentioned which is that the font you chose for the hiragana looks handwriting-y/a bit childish to me which clashes with the theme a bit (imo) -- but it is very cute and wouldn't be a dealbreaker. glwic!

    (also, as someone who's nikkei/hafu as well, i was super surprised that omiage is also a valid reading for omiyage! looked it up because i had never seen that spelling before.)

    To be honest I didn't realize it was spelled differently in the first place! I actually looked it up and it looks like the English way of saying it does have a "y". I do think though for the sake of clarity that it's worth editing to be a more common spelling. Good eye!

    I do understand why the Japanese font choice has been a bit contentious, and I think it'd look really cool if my font choices were more geometric. But the set is designed with a childlike aesthetic partially because the design intention was to evoke trips I was taking to Japan growing up. Thinking fun stuff that ANA used to do like Pokemon planes (which would make for the coolest novelties but I don't want to deal with lawyers!). It also has the added benefit of creating more of gap between my design and the similarities between Great Wave.

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    Re: [IC] KAM Soaring Skies
    « Reply #28 on: Wed, 26 May 2021, 00:19:41 »
    super super excited for your work! the colors are well done, matching the airline. i'll consider this set definitely! will put in a IC form soon here!