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[IC] Series 5.88 - Safa - GB Feb 14th (Pricing Anounced)
« on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:14:20 »
    Hey Geekhack! baul here, finally bringing Safa to the public!



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    Safa is intended to be a lightweight, simplistic take on the TKL form factor (i.e. it's just a rectangle), with my primary focus being feel and sound.
    There's no real backstory here, I wanted to make a TKL and now I'm here to share it with you!
    شكراً

    صفاء is Safa in Arabic, meaning purity / serenity

    Pricing



    (Extras pricing in EU is subject to updates, everything else is final)
    VAT included everywhere excluding US
    LIMITED TO 2 PER HOUSEHOLD

    Unit allocation

    MKBEU - 400 minus the below counts (255)
    HEX - 100
    Rectangles - 15
    Basekeys - 30

    Specs
    • 5 degree, 88 key (F13) TKL.
    • Winkey and WKL
    • Adjusted front height of 18.5mm (excluding case feet - 3M 8mm bumpons)
    • Primarily top mount, secondary gummy worm
    • Fixed ANSI, ISO plates. Variable JIS Plate available (4.5u stabs are being worked on to possibly ship with this in time, but we still need a lot of testing. Prayge for it). Default plates will be Alu 5052 in case matching colors.
    • Additional polypropylene (PP) plates will be available. Specifically chosen for its more dampening effect over PC
    • Aluminum half plates are being worked on. I have tested fr4, it feels amazing but Alu will help mods. I will confirm this at a later date[/i]
    • Internal brass weight only - not exposed externally. I live in sandland, its hot, humid, and I never look at the bottom of the board. If its on my desk how can I? I wanted this to change the sound of the board, no other reason.
    • The weight and board overall were tuned to deliberately have reverberation throughout the case. No foam will be sold with this. If you want a quiet board, like my own preferential build, use PP plates with cherries or gat milk tops. Trust me :D

    Color options
    • 432c Dark Grey
    • 533c Navy
    • 188c Dark Red
    • E-White
    • Silver / clear coated ano
    • Raw (no ano)
    [/list]
    The green seen below was done for protos but will not be in the GB.
    Alu plates will be matched to case color by default - Red alu plates are also an option.
    PP plates will be black. If you want colored PP plates, get some spray paint and mod it  :D
    More


    The PCB is a monster

    Solder PCB only, but Safa will be compatible with Gondo's hotswap 88 when he releases it.

    Featuring north AND south facing space stab support, ANSI, ISO, JIS (both 4.5u and 3u), I have updated the configs for VIA to include this (see here: https://imgur.com/a/jvQMewU)




    Prototype Photos

    432c Proto, Built in JIS 4.5u. The grey is very dark, so much that I have decided to not run a black variant of the board (at least for now).


    Samples of the 533c Navy and 188c Dark Red. Please bear in mind, these are V1 protos. Read "The original Safa" for more info.


    A look at the bottom, and engraving, which are not infilled stock. I recommend oil-based Acryllic paint to get a similar effect to how it looks on the JIS build

    This green will not be in the group buy.


    A few QOL insights...

    Brass weight coverage - made to cover as much of the alphas as possible. Being such a low profile board has its limitations, and this was as much coverage as I could reasonably achieve



    Alignment pillars - a simple way to assemble the case and not worry about alignment. These cover both the X and Y axis'



    USB tolerance - uh...yeah...kinda obvious. Also helpful for locating the port when not looking directly at it, as the entire ledge leads to this point.




    The original Safa

    More
    The initial design from October 2020 was intended to have a simple external profile, which has carried over to v2. Each unit had 8mm uniform bezels and were all WKL units – I tried to make it work, but I was not happy with the aesthetic result. Note the engraving changes as well, you can see in the prototype photos noted above

    The following changes were made from v1 to v2

    - AFH reduced to 18.5-19mm from 20.5mm. Small, but significant change for comfort at such an angle
    - Side bezel reduction, likely what takes this from being an “okay” board to something that looks significantly sleeker
    - Engraving updates – rounded off, cuter font
    - Engraving location – moved to inner radii of Pause key
    - Weight rework – lower case height, therefore thinner weight. However, weight now covers more surface area in return, giving a more balanced tone across all alphas
    - USB rework: up 1mm on y axis. Now there is a groove on the back ledge to easily identify the location
    - Plate tolerances: much much tighter on north and south sides. Still room for wiggle, may tighten, but this will increase the risks of fitting


    Price target & availability
    • Price target: $400 (or under) excl. VAT. This price is heavily dependent on material cost and factory limitations being put in place. Hence, this is a target - It can go up or down by the time February rolls around.
    • Will ship in custom fit hard cases.
    • Availability: 400 units See below
    • Feb 14th for GB

    After listening to people in the hobby I have the utmost respect for, as well as advice provided by vendors, this is no longer an unlimited run, and will instead be capped at 400 units (+ extras for backup).

    One (very) good outcome to this is an estimated ETA of 6/7(ish) months for board production. I would rather deliver a board faster at the same price than wait a year. I am keeping this to 400 to allow me to release a possible F12 version sooner than expected, so if you prefer an F12 variant, keep your eyes out for it (ETA Q4 2022)

    Vendors
    • EU, worldwide - MKBEU
    • Asia - Hex.KB
    • India - Rectangles.store
    • Considering other vendors - this list is not final

    Soundtests
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pGhf0mRoGE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFWezluM5dM
    https://youtu.be/9EkjwVae_2M
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y_Vnjhn_80

    Credits
    David & Evy - awesome PCB work, as well as general guidance
    The entire MENA server - for having my back throughout the past year
    Boyos - you know who you are, thank you for the constant encouragement
    g1lbrt, Hueth, Lovi, Poesjuh, Simone - For your testing, building of protos, and honest feedback
    Bachoo - for your early render work, as always, much love

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    « Last Edit: Sat, 12 February 2022, 06:09:23 by paulgali »

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #1 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:14:30 »
    Reserved

    I need to make this clear. The green seen here was done for protos but will not be in the GB option list. I am sorry.

    2021/12/03: Red alu plates will be an option
    2021/12/04: Asia & ISC Vendors agreed upon
    2021/12/05: GB may be Feb, may be March. Will find out very shortly
    2021/12/06: Layout support updated for clarity
    2021/12/06: Confirmed March 1st for GB
    2021/12/08: Please note the below update to unit counts

    After listening to people in the hobby I have the utmost respect for, as well as advice provided by vendors, this is no longer an unlimited run, and will instead be capped at 400 units (+ extras for backup).

    One (very) good outcome to this is an estimated ETA of 6/7(ish) months for board production. I would rather deliver a board faster at the same price than wait a year. I am keeping this to 400 to allow me to release a possible F12 version sooner than expected, so if you prefer an F12 variant, keep your eyes out for it (ETA Q4 2022)

    ABNT2 support has been added, and ALPS plate will be an option. The PCB for safa doesnt support alps, but if you are buying hiney's h88, youll be set. Just offering plates in the GB as an optional addon since, might as well, even if you plan to not own this board, here's your chance to pick up alu alps plates.

    I had a chat with Max. I do not want Safa and Pheonix to conflict, and because Max's US vendor has pushed to march, I am bringing Safa a wee bit closer.

    It should avoid the pheonix, since Safa will be a 400 unit FCFS sale. Max and I have discussed this and agreed it is ok.

    2022/01/17 : Raw unit option dropped
    2022/02/10: Pricing added
    « Last Edit: Thu, 10 February 2022, 01:51:46 by paulgali »

    Offline of_sam

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #2 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:15:43 »
    Safa stonks to the moon. Love your work and attention to detail Baul. Can't wait to support this project!
    Typing on: F1.69 - 205g0 TTC Wilds, 55g TX Mediums, KA1953
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    Offline Moods

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #3 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:16:55 »
    Paul, this looks incredible. Thank you <3

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    Offline kyuut

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #4 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:17:21 »
    love it

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #5 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:17:32 »
    Hypers!!!!!

    Offline Neely_12

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #6 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:17:46 »
    Tkl is good tkl is great tkl is baul. Good work  :thumb:

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #7 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:18:12 »
    Love to see more great work from you  :thumb: GLWIC
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    Offline mrvpixel

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #8 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:18:30 »
    Can't wait to get it :cool: :thumb:

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #9 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:19:07 »
    Safa so lit  :thumb:

    Offline LordOfSarcasm

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #10 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:19:20 »
    GIB AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa

    Offline Fe

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #11 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:19:35 »
    nice keybort baul

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #12 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:19:37 »
    "safa gud"

    -$W4GK!NG 2021

    Offline kk73715

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #13 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:20:29 »
    bababaul rectangle so good

    Offline The0rigina1

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #14 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:20:34 »
    gib green

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #15 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:20:42 »
    JIS layout I am in for sure. Also maybe just the wire is sufficient? I was planning on just cutting a 6.25u wire and bend it to a 4.5u.

    Gonna try to coop one when it goes into GB.
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    Offline Maelk

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #16 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:20:51 »
    Looks very nice  :thumb:

    Offline SolidCactus

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #17 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:20:56 »
    Love it! I’m in

    Offline Vortext

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #18 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:21:09 »
    Cute TKL

    Offline infectedqt

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #19 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:21:36 »
    Safa lit, good luck on this project paul, i will ofc be supporting you all the way!

    Offline pepperonichicken

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #20 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:21:54 »
    Looks fantastic. That green is a must have for me. GLWIC!  :D

    Offline xalloumi

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #21 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:22:05 »
    Yes

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #22 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:22:53 »
    awesome

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #23 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:23:17 »
    JIS layout I am in for sure. Also maybe just the wire is sufficient? I was planning on just cutting a 6.25u wire and bend it to a 4.5u.

    Gonna try to coop one when it goes into GB.

    I really screwed up cutting my own, but i mean, it is possible :D

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #24 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:23:25 »
    Damn that is a lot of PCB compatibility. Happy to see this get into IC!
    This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

    Offline rookb

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #25 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:23:58 »
    Can't wait for it  :cool:

    Offline cst

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #26 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:24:21 »
    yes please, love it :thumb: :thumb:

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #27 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:25:53 »
    One of the nicest project of this year hands down.

    Incredible amount of care, work and prototyping.

    Definitely in  :thumb:

    Offline MK47

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #28 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:26:02 »
    Safs so good. Can't wait to support this project.

    Offline whirlwind

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #29 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:26:14 »
    Safa so lit
    Paul so lit




    Offline donrevult

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #30 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:27:57 »
    safa so gud

    Offline AstralYT

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #31 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:29:30 »
    FINALLY, my prayers have been heard.

    Offline nu_types

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #32 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:31:33 »
    This is smexy

    Offline RA Can

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #33 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:31:43 »

    Offline Phractals

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #34 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:43:35 »
    Safa so gud. Finally a project worth supporting for me. So much work and passion put into this and it shows :thumb:

    This will be the first rectangle GB I'll join and without having to think twice about it.

    Offline sagarsiddhpura

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #35 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:45:50 »
    Not a fan of letters on top of the board where it just sits in front of you whether you like it or not. This is even more unattractive when something is written in other language and its unfamiliar. Please offer an option without it. Other than that great ic, great board. Looking forward to this

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #36 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:47:41 »
    This board look nice. Sound nice. Target price is also nice.


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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #37 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:48:21 »
    Not a fan of letters on top of the board where it just sits in front of you whether you like it or not. This is even more unattractive when something is written in other language and its unfamiliar. Please offer an option without it. Other than that great ic, great board. Looking forward to this
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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #38 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:49:19 »
    Sign me up


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    Offline niicao

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #39 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:54:45 »
    i've been following this board for some time by now, must say that it's an amazing board and adding to it, paul is such a nice guy, its a no brainer for me

    Offline herbologist

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #40 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:55:47 »
    Safa so lit, gimme now.

    Offline goya_dechi

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #41 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:57:53 »
    Very happy to see this IC, was eyeing this project for a while. Can't wait when GB goes live!

    Offline Gnome

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #42 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 12:59:22 »
    NE pictures of physical pcb avail?
    Green good, JIS interesting, Pricepoint fair.
    If wallet allows for it i'll get in on it.

    Offline paulgali

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #43 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:09:10 »
    NE pictures of physical pcb avail?
    Green good, JIS interesting, Pricepoint fair.
    If wallet allows for it i'll get in on it.
    Only have the proto pcb for now but here you go. Bear in mind you can also snap off the bottom pieces but it really isn’t necessary to do so




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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #44 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:14:48 »
    I appreciate you waiting until after NNN was over to post this

    Offline Slayer77

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #45 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:18:45 »

    Offline Klyback

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #46 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:21:40 »
    188c <3

    Offline ZavaZ86

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #47 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:44:41 »
    Safa so lit gib

    Offline sagarsiddhpura

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #48 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:45:36 »
    Not a fan of letters on top of the board where it just sits in front of you whether you like it or not. This is even more unattractive when something is written in other language and its unfamiliar. Please offer an option without it. Other than that great ic, great board. Looking forward to this
    Jane, Whale, and every other tkl in existence sweating rn.

    All of those atleast had something in english. This one is completely unfamiliar. IMO nothing > logos, art > letters. Please consider an option without it

    Offline elongatedmusk

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    Re: [IC] Series 5.88 - Safa
    « Reply #49 on: Thu, 02 December 2021, 13:54:19 »
    Ne info with how much the board total weight when built?

    Anyhow, GLWIC, looking clean so far :thumb: