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[IC] TORO60 - CWKL/HHKB 60% with Exploded Spacebar (GB IS LIVE)
« on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 06:42:40 »

INTRODUCTION
Hey everyone! After the success of the BSUN Strawberry Cheesecake, we have been silent for a while. We focused all our resources on the development of our next project which I am super excited to share with you. 

Over a year of love and dedication, we are delighted to present Toro60. This keyboard is not just another design—it's a tribute to our studio’s beloved mascot, Toro the Shiba Inu. Every detail has been carefully crafted to capture the spirit of our furry friend, and we can't wait for you to see it!



Thanks to the valiant effort of our design team spearheaded by @sauvieng, we were able to bring this project to life


DESIGN CHOICES

As our first keyboard project, the Toro60 features a unique layout with a modified Chinese win-keyless blocker and an exploded 6.25u spacebar—designed to be as functional as it is stylish. While fairly unique, we feel that the layout is practical enough to use just any keycap sets you have lying around without needing to purchase any child kit (yes, even the cheapest keycap set you can find on the market can be used with this layout).

To ensure comfort for all users, the Toro60 comes with a 7-degree typing angle and a 16mm front height. It's perfect for long typing sessions without straining your wrists. Pair with some full-travel switches, and you are looking at a day-long typing saver.

For the mounting style, we chose a top mount. It is an old classic mount that works like a champ. Nice, even typing experience with great acoustic is why we chose it.
The case design is where things get interesting. We went all-in on curves, making the entire case sleek and smooth. All those curves help you visualise how chonky Toro is.

To keep the exterior clean and minimalist, we opted for the hidden screw utilising 4 internal M2 screws to hold the top and bottom together.

Finally, we added a weight featuring an engraving of Toro himself. The weight will be available in both Brass and Stainless steel with UV-printing and surface treatment so you can pick one that suits you best.


FULL SPECS
Material:
6063 Aluminum CNC

PC CNC

Layout
CWKL

HHKB

Weight:
Brass/Copper, Colour infilled, clear coated
Render for visualization purposes only


Layout and mounting
60%
CWKL/HHKB
6.25u exploded spacebar
Top mount
Hidden Screw

PCB
Hotswap

Solder


VIA/QMK Compat
1.6mm
No Flex-Cut
Underglow RGB
Custom Daughterboard

Dimensions
Width: 298.8mm
Length: 115.22mm
Front Height: 17.75mm
Typing Angle: 7 Degree

Brass weight: 525g
Copper weight: 552g

Aluminum Kit unbuilt: 1104g (Brass), 1131g (Copper)
PC Kit unbuilt: 816g (Brass), 843g (Copper)

Aluminum Kit built: 1388 (Brass), 1415g (Copper)
PC Kit built: 1100 (Brass), 1127g (Copper)





Available Colours:

Colours for FINAL. These are real photos taken from the prototypes

Mika - Aluminum (E-coated White)




Hachiko - Aluminum (E-coated Cream)




Toro - Aluminum (Spray Coat Tan)




Ginkgo - Aluminum (Anodised Black)




Doge - Aluminum (Anodised Silver)




Cheems - PC (Sandblasted Clear)




Hong Bao - Aluminum (Anodised Chinese Red)




Sakura - Aluminum (Anodised Pink)


Taro - Aluminum (Anodised Ultra Violet)



KIT CONTENT
Top and Bottom Case (Aluminum or PC)
Plate
PCB (Hotswap or Solder)
Custom daughterboard and JST Cable
Screws
Carry case
Protective string bag
Feet

ADD-ONS
Besides the usual items such as extra plates, and PCBs, we also have some cool items to launch alongside the TORO60.

Artisans

With the support from our good friends at Zuno Studio, we managed to bring Toro to your fingertips. The artisans are resin-casted and compatible with all MX switches


Deskmats

Big shout to our graphic designer @vietlu23 for these awesome deskmat designs

Spring

Summer

Autumn

Winter

4 Seasons

Prototypes are in the making and should arrive soon. Real Photo will be uploaded in the Photo section below
Prototypes photos updated below

PHOTOS

V1.5 prototype photos











V2 prototype photos











Deskmat photos

Spring


Summer


Autumn


Winter


4 Seasons

Artisans photos

Toro


Ginkgo


Mika

SOUNDTEST
More to be updated pending arrival of switches and v2 prototypes

V1.5 prototype sound test

V2 prototype sound test:



Full sound test play list can be found here here

PRICING

Prices are FINALISED.
Prices are listed in USD and do not include any regional taxes or applicable fees


Brass Weight Kit: $250
Copper Weight Kit: $270
Artisans: $35
Deskmat: $21
Solder PCB: $25
Hotswap PCB: $30
Topre PCB: Under development (to be updated)
Plates: $30 (CF), $25(PC, PP, POM, FR4)

VENDORS

OCEANIA/ROW: TORO Studio
CANADA: Mech.Land
UNITED STATES: Clickclack
SINGAPORE: ktechs
UNITED KINGDOMS: Prototypist
VIETNAM: Nuxros.KB
CHINA: Kezewa
MALAYSIA: Mecha
SCADANAVIAN: Max Gaming
EUROPE: CoffeeKeys
INDONESIA: Kukey Studio
KOREA: Swag Keys
JAPAN: Yushakobo
THAILAND: Aiglatson Studio
...

More Vendors to be updated once we reach the agreement

GB Period
Tentative GB date: Feb 15th- March 15th 2025
Shipping to Vendors: Late Q2 - Early Q3 2025
Tentative delivery time to customers: Early Q3 - Mid Q3 2025 (depends on vendors' location)

This might change depending on the progress of Interest Check and Project Development


CHANGE LOG
- V1 prototype received and tested. We are not happy with the performance or manufacturing quality.
Fix implemented into V1.5 design.
Manufacturer changed.
V1.5 prototypes is ordered and produced. Currently being shipped to us.
More sound tests in the makings (Pending V2 prototype and more switches to arrive before making more sound tests).
V1.5 prototype arrived. Received and tested.
More adjustments are being made to the design. V2 prototype is in the work.
Artisans prototypes arrived.
Deskmats prototypes arrived.
Photos will be taken in the coming days and updated in the Photos section.
V2 prototypes arrived and tested. I am happy with the quality so far.
Some more minor adjustments to be made to refine the design further.
Photos section updated with various photos from V1.5 prototype (it represent 90% of the final product imo), deskmats and artisans.
Another round of prototypes will be ordered with all the colours available for the GB along with latest change.
Other accessories will also be ordered for testing purpose.
- Prototypes shipped out to content creators.
- Another prototype is placed to fix some minor fitment issues as well as in the correct shade of pink
- Photos are in editing phase and will be uploaded soon
- Topre PCB is in the work. Prototype placed
- GB is live at all regional vendors
- Promotional contents are rolling out constantly



END NOTE

We are very thankful that you spent your precious time reading this IC. It has been a great pleasure to be part of this community. We would like to express our gratitude to all the friends, family, vendors and especially you (fellow metal rectangle enjoyers) for all the love and support since the first day. Please consider joining our social media platforms to receive the latest information on the projects. It would be great if you could spend a few minutes of your time filling out the IC Form.

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Offline kentdo10

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 07:04:59 »
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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 07:08:29 »
I am assuming bc of the exploded spacebar 7U bottom row wasn't possible? Other than that the board looks really really cool.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 07:11:49 »
I am assuming bc of the exploded spacebar 7U bottom row wasn't possible? Other than that the board looks really really cool.
The combination of the Exploded spacebar and the Chinese Win-key blockers reduces the amount of space we can use. Hence, 7u was not possible. The concept design initially came with a 6u but then we believed 6.25u would make it way easier for end-consumers so it was changed to 6.25u in the final design.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 07:19:35 »
very very nice form factor!
please find a proper EU vendor please 🙏

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 07:21:45 »
very very nice form factor!
please find a proper EU vendor please 🙏
I am keen to hear some recommendations if possible

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 08:00:19 »
I am assuming bc of the exploded spacebar 7U bottom row wasn't possible? Other than that the board looks really really cool.
The combination of the Exploded spacebar and the Chinese Win-key blockers reduces the amount of space we can use. Hence, 7u was not possible. The concept design initially came with a 6u but then we believed 6.25u would make it way easier for end-consumers so it was changed to 6.25u in the final design.


Def makes sense! I really love the exploded spacebar so I don't mind giving up 7U for it haha.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 08:18:23 »
very very nice form factor!
please find a proper EU vendor please 🙏
I am keen to hear some recommendations if possible
most people would agree on deltakeyco or keygem

Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 10:16:03 »
Do you have anyone in mind for the NA vendor?

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 12:18:39 »
This is so cute, I'm in!

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 20:03:41 »
very very nice form factor!
please find a proper EU vendor please 🙏
I am keen to hear some recommendations if possible
most people would agree on deltakeyco or keygem
I will talk to KeyGem since we have been friends for a while and they also ran my last project

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 20:04:21 »
Do you have anyone in mind for the NA vendor?

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I have Mech.Land as my CA vendor but I haven't locked in any US vendor yet. Still looking for one.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 20:04:53 »
This is so cute, I'm in!
Thank you for your kind words <3

Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 20:13:42 »
Do you have anyone in mind for the NA vendor?

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I have Mech.Land as my CA vendor but I haven't locked in any US vendor yet. Still looking for one.
I'd recommend NovelKeys, Cannonkeys, or DangKeebs considering current activity and past track record


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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 20:32:05 »
Do you have anyone in mind for the NA vendor?

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I have Mech.Land as my CA vendor but I haven't locked in any US vendor yet. Still looking for one.
I'd recommend NovelKeys, Cannonkeys, or DangKeebs considering current activity and past track record
Thanks for your recommendation. I will try reach out to them and see if they are keen to be on board

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 24 September 2024, 22:45:54 »
Niceee

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 25 September 2024, 00:39:26 »
cool keyboard bro who designed it

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 25 September 2024, 01:19:41 »
cool keyboard bro who designed it
A random lad to the West of Victoria

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 25 September 2024, 13:21:15 »
Will there be other layout options? Possible hhkb?

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 27 September 2024, 18:01:11 »
Will there be other layout options? Possible hhkb?
Yes. We are working on a hhkb ish top case.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 27 September 2024, 18:41:36 »
Will there be other layout options? Possible hhkb?
Yes. We are working on a hhkb ish top case.

Hooray!!! Now I’m 10/10 interested!! GLWIC :D

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 27 September 2024, 18:43:30 »
Really interesting.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 28 September 2024, 00:18:30 »
I love exploded spacebars, and CWKL, but I personally don't think it looks good together lol. Love everything else about the design tho, and it sounds pretty nice in your sound test

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 28 September 2024, 03:27:27 »
I love exploded spacebars, and CWKL, but I personally don't think it looks good together lol. Love everything else about the design tho, and it sounds pretty nice in your sound test
I appreciate your honest opinion haha tho' I feel this layout is unique and beautifully symmetrical. But again, its just a preference thing. We are also offering hhkb due to demand and for people who do not like the cwkl layout

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 28 September 2024, 14:36:53 »
Side looks meh. The rest are cute. Will seriously consider this if it's below $300. Good luck with IC though :D
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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 28 September 2024, 19:13:23 »
Side looks meh. The rest are cute. Will seriously consider this if it's below $300. Good luck with IC though :D
It is below 300 for brass version. We are working with all parties involved to see if we can get a better pricing on this. Please consider joining our discord for up-to-date info on the project

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 30 September 2024, 11:33:20 »
love this wow lol

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 30 September 2024, 18:42:32 »
love this wow lol
Thank you for your kind words

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 30 September 2024, 18:46:52 »
HHKB will now be offered

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 30 September 2024, 19:25:58 »
KAWAIIIIII

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 02 October 2024, 04:24:14 »
I love this even more in HHKB. (I’ve never owned an HHKB board before 😂) I wanna take pictures of this one!!

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 02 October 2024, 20:03:44 »
I love this even more in HHKB. (I’ve never owned an HHKB board before 😂) I wanna take pictures of this one!!
Same haha HHKB with PC case will be my first ever

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 03 October 2024, 06:22:09 »
Sound test of V1.5 prototype

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 04 October 2024, 20:50:55 »
Update to change log, vendor list and sound test. Photos will be updated soon.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 04:42:06 »
Looks like a 1.25-1-1.5-6.25-1.5-1-1.25 u bottom row should be possible. Would make for a nice hhkb that way. Any possiblity for it?

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 05:31:31 »
Looks like a 1.25-1-1.5-6.25-1.5-1-1.25 u bottom row should be possible. Would make for a nice hhkb that way. Any possiblity for it?
it is 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25-1.25-1.25-1.25

I have commented and updated the IC. HHKB layout will be offered (tho' I am not sure it is true HHKB but it is close). It will feature 2 bottom-corner blockers and we will have 1.25-1.25-6.25-1.25-1.25 as the bottom row in the HHKB version

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 05:43:02 »
Yes I understand that currently it’s all 1.25u.
1.25+1.25 =2.50
1+1.5=2.50 as well, so a tsangan approach of the bottom row for HHKB could work.


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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 07:15:52 »
I dont mind the isolated spacebar but dont understand why is done here considering layout supposed to be an hhkb but it is really not? Board very kawaii though

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 18:16:32 »
I dont mind the isolated spacebar but dont understand why is done here considering layout supposed to be an hhkb but it is really not? Board very kawaii though
HHKB was not the initial design we went for. It was later added due to many requests from IC form. So, we try to modify what we could to add the support for HHKB.
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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 09 October 2024, 18:21:01 »
Yes I understand that currently it’s all 1.25u.
1.25+1.25 =2.50
1+1.5=2.50 as well, so a tsangan approach of the bottom row for HHKB could work.


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Yes I understand what you mean. But that would require a totally new PCB (for the hotswap version at least)  to accomodate 1.5 + 1. And tsangan would require 7u spacebar which mean I have to modified the spacebar cut out. The will ressult in a new MOQ we will need to meet.

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 14 October 2024, 17:07:22 »
Looks like a 1.25-1-1.5-6.25-1.5-1-1.25 u bottom row should be possible. Would make for a nice hhkb that way. Any possiblity for it?

Unfortunately due to the positioning of the internal screws, this is not possible with the current design. However depending on interest, we can definitely consider this as an option!

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 29 October 2024, 22:44:34 »
30/10/2025 Update:
- Photos section has been updated.
- GB section has been updated to reflect the latest development of the projects
- Change log have been updated to reflect the lastest development.

Also please consider joining our discord and follow us on Insta  :thumb:

Link to discord: https://discord.gg/Ny2gvnwcrt
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/toro_keyboard/

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 07 November 2024, 00:13:40 »
Love the rounded profile, and its super cute. I'm interested.

EU buyers will want a EU vendor though... just saying. 

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 07 November 2024, 06:25:13 »
Love the rounded profile, and its super cute. I'm interested.

EU buyers will want a EU vendor though... just saying.

Thanks for your kind words! We're still in the process of securing an EU vendor, but as soon as we do, we'll announce it here!

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL/HHKB 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 31 January 2025, 04:57:03 »
Post is updated with latest information

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL/HHKB 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 31 January 2025, 07:23:28 »
looks like someone remembered their login LOL

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL/HHKB 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 01 February 2025, 14:47:53 »
Excited and happy to see a JP vendor for this one (:

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Re: [IC] TORO60 - CWKL/HHKB 60% with Exploded Spacebar
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 01 February 2025, 21:34:24 »
Excited and happy to see a JP vendor for this one (:
Only way to honour the origin of Toro by having a Japanese vendor  :p