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Offline seh0nk

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Coarse 60% IC-2

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Introduction and Updates

The Coarse60 is an aluminum alice 60% with premium features at $210.

GROUPBUY IS LIVE 10/3/2021
Kit:
https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/coarse60

Extras:
https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/coarse60-pcb

This post will be locked soon for a gb post tomorrow but I would like to thank everyone for this amazing opportunity. I hope you will support this gb, and have a good day!

-sehonky

UPDATE 9/26/2021 Andy's Stream of the Coarse60 is in and it was great! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1158988347?t=01h45m10s for type test.

"This board is a banger"
-Andy V Nguyen



UPDATE 9/8/2021 After one factory botching of the PCB prototype, we switched factories, finally got all the pieces together and built the prototype. The price is now an even $210 to account for the new, more expensive (but more reliable) PCB factory as well as other accessory costs such as o-rings and standoffs. We still think this is a great price and hope you will too.

I have taken some prototype pictures so you guys can see what it looks like IRL and we are sending it to Andy V Nguyen soon for a build stream and video.

Lastly, we are anticipating a groupbuy start on October 3rd. Stay tuned for a groupbuy post with more information.

More
Update 4/26 Due to popular opinion, e-white has been added to the color selection. Available colors are now black, navy, and e-white. Also, the streamlined version has been chosen.

Update 4/13 Streamlined version has won with a large majority. We have ordered a prototype for it.

Keebsforall Discord for updates: https://discord.gg/dRjsAh5jMX


Table of Contents
Intro and Updates
Photos and Renders
Specifications
Vendors
Frequently Asked Questions
Closing Remarks

Prototype Photos and Renders

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Note: plate has holes for standoffs attaching to PCB.
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Specifications
If you require any more information feel free to join the Keebsforall discord server, leave a comment, or refer back to IC-1: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111192.0;topicseen

Front Height: ~20.5mm
Additional keys supported: split backspace, 2u spacebar, split rshift, stepped capslock. All supported with hotswap except split backspace which is soldered.
Typing Angle: 6.9 degrees
Plate materials: aluminum, POM
Case colors: Navy, Black, and White. All e-coated.
Kit Price: $210

Vendors
US: KeebsForAll
CA: Ashkeebs
UK: Keebcats
EU: Keygem
SEA: ZionStudiosPH
OCE: DailyClack

FAQ

So all positions mentioned in the specifications are supported with hotswap?
Yes, thanks to creative hotswap socket positioning by our PCB guy taylor.

Iso Support?
No, by nature of alice layout.

Won't the sound be hollow?
After experience with the prototype, the board will not sound hollow when using the o-rings and acrylic bottom at normal typing distance. Using the POM plate will further mitigate this issue.

Can you further explain the mounting?
Of course - If you look at the photo of the plate, there are four holes, one in each corner. Those will be used to screw the plate into the case, and will be the only points of pressure on the plate. The plate will flex when the strips of metal connecting the hole to the main plate bend.


Closing Remarks
I have been working very hard on this keyboard and hope you enjoy it.

Please consider joining the Keebsforall Discord server to receive updates! https://discord.gg/dRjsAh5jMX

Special Thanks:

Candice at Keebsforall - groupbuy and logistics

Jerry at Keebsforall - keyboard strategy

Patrick from Neokeys - file review

Rhuk.tech - USB port help

Taylor - PCB man


Thank You for reading.

-seh0nky





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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 18:19:25 »
P cool

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 18:25:21 »
damn that is a lot of keyboard, looks nice. That usb port is a pretty good compromise if you don't want to use a db.
This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 18:27:30 »
Can we see a slim one with virtually no chamfer? I think that would be extremely clean.

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 19:34:39 »
 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

i am determined to shell out money for this regardless of the design chosen

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 19:51:40 »
uh... it seems I forgot to reserve a post. Anyway reserved

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 09 April 2021, 19:55:29 »
P cool
:thumb:

Can we see a slim one with virtually no chamfer? I think that would be extremely clean.
I will look into this. Good idea!

damn that is a lot of keyboard, looks nice. That usb port is a pretty good compromise if you don't want to use a db.
Thanks!

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

i am determined to shell out money for this regardless of the design chosen

Thanks for the support  :thumb:

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 01:00:18 »
Looks good so far - I saw a few comments on the other thread about how it was bad that it was a rectangle, but I'm all for it. Tons of keyboards are plain rectangles, and an Alice layout as a rectangle is pretty unique actually. Kind of like the Lubrigante, where I preferred the rectangular version over the chinned version. Though the little bit of rounding where the acrylic bottom piece meets the case looks a bit strange. How come this needed a new thread?

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 01:07:39 »
yuge keyboard. like the angle

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 10:26:05 »
Looks good so far - I saw a few comments on the other thread about how it was bad that it was a rectangle, but I'm all for it. Tons of keyboards are plain rectangles, and an Alice layout as a rectangle is pretty unique actually. Kind of like the Lubrigante, where I preferred the rectangular version over the chinned version. Though the little bit of rounding where the acrylic bottom piece meets the case looks a bit strange. How come this needed a new thread?
Thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate on which edge is rounded? As for your last question, I thought this warranted a new thread because the design decision we had to make was very significant, and the prototype had been received.

yuge keyboard. like the angle
Thanks!

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - PROTOTYPE RECEIVED - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 13:12:53 »
Nice Boar, Nice Design alreadyd submit the IC Form.

really want hear your opinion about the typing feel on this keyboard and the sound test.

Thank you.

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I just like how I can use a normal wrist wrest for this lol

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I just like how I can use a normal wrist wrest for this lol

That's the idea!

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Damn, love the blocky version. Might need to pick this up!

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Update 5-19-2021

Hey everyone. Thanks for the support so far. This is the current state of the project:

  • The streamlined version has been chosen by popular opinion.
  • The colors chosen are e-white, black, and navy.
  • We have ordered a prototype in the e-white colorway.
  • The groupbuy is going to start in the next few months, barring problems with the prototype.
  • We are waiting for the PCB prototype.

Thanks for your patience! For the most current updates join the discord: https://discord.gg/dRjsAh5jMX

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THAT PRICE POINT THOO!!!

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Offline Rumblethumps

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Aww, I really liked the blocky one lol. Still in for the slim version though, that price is incredible!

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Aww, I really liked the blocky one lol. Still in for the slim version though, that price is incredible!

Thanks! Hopefully the GB will come in the next 2-3 months!

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Have you ordered a pcb prototype yet?
 

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Have you ordered a pcb prototype yet?

Yep, it's coming!

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 01:11:36 »
Hey guys, thanks for all your patience.

There are some big updates; firstly I received all components of the prototype, and secondly, we are aiming for an October GB date! See all the news at the top of the post and check out the prototype photos!

Have a great day.

-seh0nky

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 03:12:24 »
love what you folks are doing for the community. Totally love that e-white got added to the color choice! Looking forward to the gb!
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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:55:23 »
How come there wont be a eu vendor. I would love if you added a eu vendor

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 09:48:56 »
please consider eu/uk vendor

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 10:17:39 »
UPDATE: EU vendor is KeyGem!

For those of you wondering, there probably will be an EU/UK vendor, we just haven't decided on it yet
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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 10:18:00 »
love what you folks are doing for the community. Totally love that e-white got added to the color choice! Looking forward to the gb!

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - BIG UPDATES - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 10 September 2021, 20:59:37 »
Update 9/10/2021

Wanted to let you guys know the prototype is now in the process of getting shipped to Andy V. Nguyen!


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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 18:01:27 »
Update 9/15/2021

Super excited to say that we have confirmed vendors! They are in the main body of the post but in case you missed them:

US: KeebsForAll
CA: Ashkeebs
UK: Keebcats
EU: Keygem
SEA: ZionStudiosPH
OCE: DailyClack

Have a good day,
-seh0nky

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 19:43:45 »
this board is very interesting and has a great price definitely interested

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 15 September 2021, 21:09:26 »
very nice
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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 16 September 2021, 02:32:54 »
this board is very interesting and has a great price definitely interested

very nice

Glad to hear!

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 16 September 2021, 02:53:16 »
Price point is great and as there is a EU vendor I might join

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 21 September 2021, 20:02:36 »
First time I see an Alice board in a pure rectangle without the alice shape, I'm still not 100% sure how I feel about it.
But the price point makes this very attractive.

-Is there a reason we cannot get split backspace on the hotswap PCB?
-Are the colors final? I have nothing against them per say, but black/white/navy are probably the most common colors for boards. It's always nice when boards have at least one original/unusual color.
       

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 01:25:49 »
First time I see an Alice board in a pure rectangle without the alice shape, I'm still not 100% sure how I feel about it.
But the price point makes this very attractive.

-Is there a reason we cannot get split backspace on the hotswap PCB?
-Are the colors final? I have nothing against them per say, but black/white/navy are probably the most common colors for boards. It's always nice when boards have at least one original/unusual color.

The Wonderland + Lubrigante was a rectangular Alice layout - I kind of liked it being different.

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 11:52:46 »
First time I see an Alice board in a pure rectangle without the alice shape, I'm still not 100% sure how I feel about it.
But the price point makes this very attractive.

-Is there a reason we cannot get split backspace on the hotswap PCB?
-Are the colors final? I have nothing against them per say, but black/white/navy are probably the most common colors for boards. It's always nice when boards have at least one original/unusual color.

Hi!

1. The reason for no split backspace is that the sockets would block the full backspace position.
2. The colors are final, sorry. The way we decided the colors was taking a survey and picking the three most popular.

Thanks for you interest and the questions!

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 23 September 2021, 13:37:40 »
Oh yeah this is an easy buy for me. Great price point and great options with the PCB.  :thumb:

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 23 September 2021, 13:56:34 »
It's too bad about the split backspace. TKC Candybar is able to do hotswap split and full backspace, but I can imagine it would be harder on an Alice type plate.

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 24 September 2021, 15:36:32 »
It's too bad about the split backspace. TKC Candybar is able to do hotswap split and full backspace, but I can imagine it would be harder on an Alice type plate.

Yep. We will look into creative solutions for R2 or future iterations.

Oh yeah this is an easy buy for me. Great price point and great options with the PCB.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 24 September 2021, 18:16:54 »
Pretty nice looking keyboard. And I like the concept of flat non-CNC bottom piece.
But please consider adding an aluminum/brass bottom option.
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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 11:59:37 »
Pretty nice looking keyboard. And I like the concept of flat non-CNC bottom piece.
But please consider adding an aluminum/brass bottom option.

Thinking about adding a metal accent option as a "max" kit. But that is still up in the air.

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Big Updates - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 12:03:47 »
Hi All,

I am super excited to announce that the stream with Andy V. Nguyen has been completed and it went very well!

"This board is a banger"
-Andy V. Nguyen

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1158988347?t=01h45m10s

That is the link to the sound-test portion.

Groupbuy starts October 3rd! For the newest updates join the KeebsForAll discord: https://discord.gg/dRjsAh5jMX

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Andy's Stream In - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 21:25:11 »
It sounds amazing. Not going to lie. Looking forward to GB :eek:

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Re: [IC-2] Coarse60 - Andy's Stream In - Affordable Leaf-Spring Alice 60%
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 16:30:51 »
GROUPBUY IS LIVE!

Kit (you can also find your regional vendor here, or in the main post):
https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/coarse60

Extras:
https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/coarse60-pcb

This post will be locked soon for a gb post tomorrow but I would like to thank everyone for this amazing opportunity. I hope you will support this gb, and have a good day.

-sehonky
« Last Edit: Sun, 03 October 2021, 16:34:33 by seh0nk »