[GB] KIRA80 & KIRA S

[Brammm87]

Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

I didn't find any feet at first either, but they were somewhat tucked away inside the carrying case. I think I got two sets as well, if you're in the EU, I can ship you a set if you want.

[Brammm87]

What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?

[sroop]

What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?

I think the plate files are in this thread somewhere - could make your own if that's the case.

[Brammm87]

What would be the easiest way to get a new plate that fits the kira?

I think the plate files are in this thread somewhere - could make your own if that's the case.

You are correct, found them. Thanks!

[Bubblegum]

Also can't find any rubber feet bumpons in the package, but maybe zFrontier delivers without them? My Leaf80 from zF was also sent without. I've not been in that many keyboard GB's so I don't know if it's standard procedure to source them by oneself. In any case I have a few that probably fits.

I didn't find any feet at first either, but they were somewhat tucked away inside the carrying case. I think I got two sets as well, if you're in the EU, I can ship you a set if you want.

Thanks Brammm!

I haven't put the kit fully together yet, but as soon as I know if my alternative bumpons fit I'll let you know. In Norway & Sweden

[thesiscamper]

The bumpon indentations at the bottom are measured for 3M SJ5302 bumpons, for anyone who is missing theirs.

[Brammm87]

The bumpon indentations at the bottom are measured for 3M SJ5302 bumpons, for anyone who is missing theirs.

I did notice that the bumpons included (at least in my package) are smaller than the provided indentation.

[Bubblegum]

Samsung S7 photos with bad lighting, but just want to show it off to you guys. Poseidon Blue and Red Samurai kinda works if you ask me. Eventually want to put GMK Nautilus Nightmares on it I think.




Edit: Uhmm not sure why the photos wont show from imgur. Links down below.

https://imgur.com/OCs5LMf
https://imgur.com/d3zMGPE

[Jkush463]

hmm, nothing here either, ill have to send them a message

[kokugatsu]

hmm, nothing here either, ill have to send them a message

I sent them a message last week, still no sign of invoice or reply.

[thesiscamper]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

[Etherealsound]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

[HotRoderX]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

[sroop]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.

Like going to a restaurant, telling other patrons that they shouldn't complain about cold food because they had food poisoning from the burger joint across the street.


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[Brammm87]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

It's also a completely different thing when you're entering a GB with an established vendor vs someone who's entirely new.
Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

Sorry you got screwed over but that shouldn't negate someone else's negative experience.

Like going to a restaurant, telling other patrons that they shouldn't complain about cold food because they had food poisoning from the burger joint across the street.


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[Etherealsound]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

I've been in a bunch of GB's before and my experiences were never this bad. I guess the way we are viewing this are just skewed by the differences in our past experiences and expectations with GB's as a result. I have come to expect delays but never delays with radio silence and 0 correspondence, much less a scam. By offering a refund, they would have essentially taken my money, strung me along until the very end where they then proceeded to **** up on production, even with all the delays and then given me back what I paid which actually translate to less than what I paid due to inflation and opportunity cost. If that's not insulting, I don't know what is. For that reason, I'd rather take the color change but that still sucks since it's not what I paid for. I don't think I can really "get over it" in that regards.

[HotRoderX]

Alex informed me he will be done with shipping tomorrow, less than 5 left to pack and ship out. Unfortunately there are a few kits with defects he can't ship out, and he'll offer either a different color or a refund. I apologize for this bit of bad news.

On a related note, he has numpads but these will take time to organize. The numpad kits were shipped in individual boxes, without color labels and without plates included with the kits so organizing these will take longer (have to open each box to confirm color, then pair each kit with plates), and he has other projects to fulfill and attend to.

Wait, the only options are a different color or a refund? That's so disappointing, insulting even.

You know been watching this thread and get over it damn. I was part of a failed buy and I ended up losing most my money. I wasn't given any options other then a half product and no extra's I ordered. Instead of complaining be happy your getting anything. Before you spout I paid for it, its a group buy assume your going to get shafted. Then be happy if you don't. That is the way the community and group buys work. While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money. Don't want the risk don't gamble thats what these group buys are gambling. Sorry for the rent but damn people need to get there expectations straight stop whining when things don't go there way.

I've been in a bunch of GB's before and my experiences were never this bad. I guess the way we are viewing this are just skewed by the differences in our past experiences and expectations with GB's as a result. I have come to expect delays but never delays with radio silence and 0 correspondence, much less a scam. By offering a refund, they would have essentially taken my money, strung me along until the very end where they then proceeded to **** up on production, even with all the delays and then given me back what I paid which actually translate to less than what I paid due to inflation and opportunity cost. If that's not insulting, I don't know what is. For that reason, I'd rather take the color change but that still sucks since it's not what I paid for. I don't think I can really "get over it" in that regards.

Who care's if you been in one group buy or 1000 there that risk that you will get screwed and lose the money. The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25. Count your self lucky that it didn't happen before now. Also with that sorta attitude might as well leave the hobby. I go into every group buy knowing there a good chance never going to see a product. That there will be radio silence and that there might be issues with the product. Doesn't make me happy but it is what it is.

[Create_alt_delete]

While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
[...]
The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.

So you've gone from saying the majority of GBs go well, to saying that only half go well, to saying that only 1/4 go well... all in a matter of hours. What?

Just let the man be upset. He's well within his rights and you're just making yourself look like an ass.

[HotRoderX]

While fair majority go well. There also equal number that fall to crap and people lose there money.
[...]
The chances of getting screwed are most likely 75/25.

So you've gone from saying the majority of GBs go well, to saying that only half go well, to saying that only 1/4 go well... all in a matter of hours. What?

Just let the man be upset. He's well within his rights and you're just making yourself look like an ass.

Not that it matters cause people will think what they want.. didn't say half but yes majority of group buys go well. and about 25% do fail.. I say thats still majority. I never quoted half thought honestly half of them have issues the Person I quoted had. What ever found some people are just toxic and just want to complain with out weighting risk of joining a group buy yea its a risk reward situation.

[thesiscamper]

I understand the disappointment, and to feel insulted is not surprising. I am not sure how else zFrontier can make it up for you, I do know they've lost a lot of money and reputation on this buy and I'm not saying this for sympathy but to clarify that they can't really offer a lot more. I don't want to point fingers and lay blame, big or small zF, EVE and I made mistakes and I sincerely apologize.

I can't promise everyone will be satisfied, I think the best we can hope for is people to get back what they paid for, be it as a kit (even if a different color) or as a refund.

[proboy84]

Damn, paid a shipping invoice since March and now refund???

[kokugatsu]

Would be nice if Alex could let us know which of us aren't getting our kits. At this point I'd rather get a kit than just a refund.

edit: got shipping invoice, though no response from Alex

[redbanshee]

Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though

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Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

[thesiscamper]

Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though

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Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

• 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
• 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
• 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight

Bumpons are 3M SJ5302 or other 8mm diameter ones.

[shansoft]

Got some extra bumpons from a local store for my Leaf80. Pretty sure they will fit here also! Thanks though @forevermadrigal

Anyone else got a problem with their brass plate? My GMK Screw-in stab won't fit in the right side cutout for 6.25u space. The cutout is not big enough.
I have an extra aluminium plate in my order. There it is a tight fit, but it is doable. Just a bit annoying because I wanted to use the brass plate for this build. I guess it's possible to file the plate down a few mm though

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Just got a chance to check mine and my brass plate is the same way, its a hair too small. I also picked up an alum and a polycarb plate and I can say that the issue is also present in the polycarb plate but not the aluminum one. I can actually jam the stab housing in there but it bends a little. I will probably file it down a little rather then deal with ZF ever again.

Other issues were wrong length hardware and wrong type of hardware. The screws for the plate are sink hardware and should be truss head and are too long. The weight hardware was too short to secure my weight. The only ones i didnt have to replace are the actual case screws that are fixed thru the bottom. Also shipped with the wrong size bumpon.

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

• 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
• 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
• 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight

Bumpons are 3M SJ5302 or other 8mm diameter ones.

Is there an updated plate file for this? 

[redbanshee]

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

• 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
• 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
• 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight

thesiscamper, i just wanted to say that the board itself is really nice and the anno from eve is nice and even. The way that ZF handled the GB was pretty bad but the end product is very nice. I wish it would have gone smoother. Overall a great board.

One little thing is that im assuming that you are basing the hardware lengths on your initial design, a couple things that I can tell you from having 2 kits in my hands is that the weight hardware length will probably need to be tested on a case to case basis because in one of the kits that I received, the weight hardware fit but on the other one it didnt and required longer hardware. That means that the weights are not all the same. Not a huge issue but still present.

Also if you are calling for sink hardware for the case screws then that was wrong from eve also, as all the 8mm hardware that was shipped to me is all sockethead hardware. I will swap those out also.

[Brammm87]

Anyone know why Bootmapper client wouldn't recognize the board on OS X but does on Windows?

[thesiscamper]

I've seen it mentioned that newer stab tooling made them a bit thicker, so the newer stabs hardly fit through the cutouts. It was something I didn't expect, I've since changed the cutouts for later plates. As for the scews, I'm not sure why this has happened, EVE has shipped KIRA80s before with correct screws.

For those who need them, screws are all M3.

• 8 pcs. M3*8 or M3*10 flathead/countersunk for bottom to top
• 8 pcs. M3*5 sockethead or cap head for plate
• 4 pcs. M3*5 flathead/countersunk for weight

thesiscamper, i just wanted to say that the board itself is really nice and the anno from eve is nice and even. The way that ZF handled the GB was pretty bad but the end product is very nice. I wish it would have gone smoother. Overall a great board.

One little thing is that im assuming that you are basing the hardware lengths on your initial design, a couple things that I can tell you from having 2 kits in my hands is that the weight hardware length will probably need to be tested on a case to case basis because in one of the kits that I received, the weight hardware fit but on the other one it didnt and required longer hardware. That means that the weights are not all the same. Not a huge issue but still present.

Also if you are calling for sink hardware for the case screws then that was wrong from eve also, as all the 8mm hardware that was shipped to me is all sockethead hardware. I will swap those out also.

Thanks, I appreciate the suggestion. To be clear, I opened the CAD files to make sure I gave the correct measurements, and I always add at least 1mm to the depth just to be safe. EVE does change some things, and I won't be surprised if the kits have different depths for the holes. Socketheads with shallow heads should work, but the kits are designed for flathead screws.

As for OSX bootmapper, I can't be of any help since I only have Windows machines.

[Jkush463]

Got my priority board today! looks wonderful in blue, i also got an acrylic plate that i dont remember ordering but its so nice. Glad to have this finally,

[Etherealsound]

Still haven't gotten an email or an invoice for shipping. Is something up? I thought all these were supposed to be shipping out.

[kokugatsu]

Got shipping invoice on the 4th, though I did ask them to check the contents before shipping out so I haven't received tracking yet.

[Etherealsound]

Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

[thesiscamper]

Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

[shansoft]

Anyone have default firmware / bootmapper ? Somehow my Pause is now Esc, and Esc is 1....

The entire mapping is off, and Bootmapper doesn't even recognize it properly, had to use HIDBOOT to flash and still no luck with proper mapping.

[kokugatsu]

Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v

[thesiscamper]

Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v

Hi, I just got an update from Alex. He said he will check and that some invoices are still not paid, they may have been filtered so if anyone is still waiting for an invoice please check your spam folders. He also said if anyone paid the shipping invoice using a different email he might have missed it.

[rioc]

Yea, Alex contacted me regarding shipping a few weeks ago. Had to postpone a bit due to being on holidays but I got a prompt answer from him.
Shipping is paid now though

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[thesiscamper]

Is anyone able to get in contact with zfrontier/Alex regarding the shipment of these boards? I'm getting 0 correspondence.

I asked for an update last night and I'm waiting for a reply, I will give you an update when I know more.

Thanks, appreciate your effort. It's been 3 weeks since I paid my shipping invoice and there's still no sign of the kit :v

Yea, Alex contacted me regarding shipping a few weeks ago. Had to postpone a bit due to being on holidays but I got a prompt answer from him.
Shipping is paid now though

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If you're fine with sharing can you PM me your order details so I can forward it to Alex?

[thesiscamper]

There are still 5 unpaid shipping invoices according to Alex. He will just wait for these buyers to pay them.

[rioc]

Got mine yesterday.
Looking forward to building it

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[Abstand]

So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.

[shansoft]

So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.

It's for both.

[Abstand]

So, an ISO plate file was posted earlier in the thread. Is there an ANSI plate file that can be shared as well? Unless the ISO plate supports ANSI? I am not exactly sure.

I need to order another plate for this but am unsure if the ISO plate file will support an ANSI layout.

It's for both.

Not all heroes wear capes, thank you!

[Bubblegum]

Hope everyone got their boards by now. Very happy with mine.

Thesiscamper, any chance you'll be running the numpads again?

[forevermadrigal]

I want r2

[Etherealsound]

If anyone here has the plate file, could you please send it to me or post it here?

[Puddsy]

If anyone here has the plate file, could you please send it to me or post it here?

if it's orion/janev1/27 plate i have it

[sroop]

It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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[Etherealsound]

It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.

[proboy84]

It's in the thread somewhere, unless beaming deleted it.


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I've been skimming through the pages and could not find it, hopefully it's not deleted.

I think I got it on my pc.

Let me check, will let you know..