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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! VENDORS UPDATE
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 15:17:28 »
This is awesome, very interested.

Also I don't know if it is just me but I am getting an invite invalid on the discord link.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! VENDORS UPDATE
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 15:17:45 »
Same, Discord link expired mate.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! VENDORS UPDATE
« Reply #152 on: Fri, 16 April 2021, 16:33:42 »
This is awesome, very interested.

Also I don't know if it is just me but I am getting an invite invalid on the discord link.

Discord link updated

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 17 April 2021, 08:16:57 »
Vendors list update.

KEEBWERKS (EU)
VALA SUPPLY (US)

Any plans for OCE or Asia vendor or is this basically it?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #157 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 08:34:54 »
Oh wow, very hyped for this! Take my money already, if you please.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 18:35:51 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #159 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 01:20:56 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom

Me too. It looks so plain and boring.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 08:51:03 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom
Me too. It looks so plain and boring.
wait what? how will a weight on the bottom will make it less plain? you are not meant to use keyboards upside down you know, right? i always find it sad when keyboards have beautiful designs on the bottom because you never see them, i guess i will just never understand the art bottom mentality.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #161 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 09:03:29 »
This gets better by the day. Super excited to get one.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #162 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 09:42:42 »
wait what? how will a weight on the bottom will make it less plain? you are not meant to use keyboards upside down you know, right? i always find it sad when keyboards have beautiful designs on the bottom because you never see them, i guess i will just never understand the art bottom mentality.
I know bottoms aren't that often looked at. But when I change boards around I often look at the back of some and smile at some designs. I know i is just mentally, but a nice bottom like on the Iron165 is imo always better than just a monotone colored backplate

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #163 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 16:57:57 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom
Me too. It looks so plain and boring.
wait what? how will a weight on the bottom will make it less plain? you are not meant to use keyboards upside down you know, right? i always find it sad when keyboards have beautiful designs on the bottom because you never see them, i guess i will just never understand the art bottom mentality.

It's just like having a nice watch with a finely engraved rear backing. It makes the owner feel good knowing that it's there. On top of that, a luxury watch that's missing craftsmanship like that would seem incomplete. You may not understand it, but this hobby is full of people who find value in fine details that most people will never see.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #164 on: Tue, 27 April 2021, 17:31:36 »
in for southpaw

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #165 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 11:52:31 »
Aah this board is gorgeous!! I really hope there might a hotswap option!! ;o;! It will be my endgame for sure if there is one

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #166 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 14:21:29 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom
Me too. It looks so plain and boring.
wait what? how will a weight on the bottom will make it less plain? you are not meant to use keyboards upside down you know, right? i always find it sad when keyboards have beautiful designs on the bottom because you never see them, i guess i will just never understand the art bottom mentality.

It's just like having a nice watch with a finely engraved rear backing. It makes the owner feel good knowing that it's there. On top of that, a luxury watch that's missing craftsmanship like that would seem incomplete. You may not understand it, but this hobby is full of people who find value in fine details that most people will never see.

Well said

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 03:37:48 »
wish it still had an external weight on the bottom
Me too. It looks so plain and boring.
wait what? how will a weight on the bottom will make it less plain? you are not meant to use keyboards upside down you know, right? i always find it sad when keyboards have beautiful designs on the bottom because you never see them, i guess i will just never understand the art bottom mentality.

It's just like having a nice watch with a finely engraved rear backing. It makes the owner feel good knowing that it's there. On top of that, a luxury watch that's missing craftsmanship like that would seem incomplete. You may not understand it, but this hobby is full of people who find value in fine details that most people will never see.

Well said

Ditto.  Some of the details I have appreciate the most were actually inside the keyboard where they will never be seen once assembled.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 07:18:25 »
Ditto.  Some of the details I have appreciate the most were actually inside the keyboard where they will never be seen once assembled.
well technical details, yeah, they are cool even when not seen, because they accomplish something, like optical or magnetic boards, but purely visual details, i feel like it is a waste, although i am a technician, not an artist, to me technical aspects are far more interesting than the beauty of something. i use an FK9200 for its rather strange switches and calculator, neither being particularly striking.
(and to be clear i am not against the option of having an exposed weight, i do not care about it in the slightest one way or the other, i just could not wrap my head around the reasoning for it)
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 08:51:49 »
well technical details, yeah, they are cool even when not seen, because they accomplish something, like optical or magnetic boards, but purely visual details, i feel like it is a waste, although i am a technician, not an artist, to me technical aspects are far more interesting than the beauty of something. i use an FK9200 for its rather strange switches and calculator, neither being particularly striking.
(and to be clear i am not against the option of having an exposed weight, i do not care about it in the slightest one way or the other, i just could not wrap my head around the reasoning for it)
Your phone and computer both have exact time. Then why people are wearing mechanical watches ?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #170 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 09:38:12 »
well i do not have my phone on me at all time, and my windows 10 pc has a bugged out clock, it decided one day to use the background color as foreground for the clock, rendering it unusable. and to me mechanical watches are a technical masterpiece, so small, so precise, so little energy. (and ik a radio controlled digital would be more precise but would it work out of your wasted energy? and only with springs and mechanical linkages.)

mechanical watch = optical analog switches = mechanical computers etc -> technically very interesting even when hidden
ornate bottom weigh or insides = art stuck in a private collection for no one to ever see -> utterly pointless and a waste of time to me

that is only my opinion though, as i said, i am not against it existing, especially if it is an extra option and those who do not care can get the whole board for a bit cheaper.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 04 May 2021, 16:25:30 »
ik a radio controlled digital would be more precise but would it work out of your wasted energy? and only with springs and mechanical linkages.)
Some do (Seiko).

mechanical watch = optical analog switches = mechanical computers etc -> technically very interesting even when hidden
ornate bottom weigh or insides = art stuck in a private collection for no one to ever see -> utterly pointless and a waste of time to me
You didnt get the point at all did you. How can you see the mechanism of the watch (if it's not a skeleton one) ? Most of them have a window on the back, that's actually hidden all the time (when the watch is being worn). Some of these mechanisms are heavily decorated by manual labor that cost a fortune.

that is only my opinion though, as i said, i am not against it existing, especially if it is an extra option and those who do not care can get the whole board for a bit cheaper.
You should not be in this hobby if you're looking at price efficiency..

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #172 on: Wed, 05 May 2021, 02:22:07 »
ik a radio controlled digital would be more precise but would it work out of your wasted energy? and only with springs and mechanical linkages.)
Some do (Seiko).
mechanical watch = optical analog switches = mechanical computers etc -> technically very interesting even when hidden
ornate bottom weigh or insides = art stuck in a private collection for no one to ever see -> utterly pointless and a waste of time to me
You didnt get the point at all did you. How can you see the mechanism of the watch (if it's not a skeleton one) ? Most of them have a window on the back, that's actually hidden all the time (when the watch is being worn). Some of these mechanisms are heavily decorated by manual labor that cost a fortune.
that is only my opinion though, as i said, i am not against it existing, especially if it is an extra option and those who do not care can get the whole board for a bit cheaper.
You should not be in this hobby if you're looking at price efficiency..
i got the point that some value art more than technical aspects, i am in this hobby for the technical aspects of it, the rather ridiculously complex switches that manufacturer built and the upmost simplicity and elegance of other designs. although my budget is rather tight so i can't really go all out and not care about price.
(and yeah both my current watches are skeletons but my previous ones were not, my 1st did not even have a window. and i kinda wish to have that Seiko too now, seems to be rather interesting :) )
i tried to explain myself to not start a full on war, seems to have made things worse, sorry.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #173 on: Wed, 05 May 2021, 03:30:48 »
i kinda wish to have that Seiko too now, seems to be rather interesting :)
(i'll be short since it's OT) Seiko made both electronic watches that use an automatic mechanical winding system (Seiko Kinetic series), and full mechanical watches (very high end, prices are reflecting that, Grand Seiko "spring drive" models like the famous Snowflake) that are regulated with a quartz for maximum precision and have a continuous seconds hand movement (since the escapement is not mechanical). Both are amazing indeed. Again in usage you will not see the said mechanism, apart if you flip the watch over and peer through the window (for the Grand Seiko models).

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #174 on: Wed, 05 May 2021, 04:08:35 »
"Internal of mounting which is top mount + burger mount with o-rings
Plate is sandwiched between o-rings from bottom and top."

is the o-ring compressed between the plate and the top?
i recommend a mechanical end-of-stroke to avoid damage to the oring.
standart compression limit for oring are:
1.27 oring - 0.85mm
1.52 oring - 1.10mm
1.78 oring - 1.25mm
2.62 oring - 2.05mm
3.53 oring - 2.80mm

(70shore NBR)

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! 2nd IC FORM OUT
« Reply #175 on: Wed, 05 May 2021, 05:33:43 »
"Internal of mounting which is top mount + burger mount with o-rings
Plate is sandwiched between o-rings from bottom and top."

is the o-ring compressed between the plate and the top?
i recommend a mechanical end-of-stroke to avoid damage to the oring.
standart compression limit for oring are:
1.27 oring - 0.85mm
1.52 oring - 1.10mm
1.78 oring - 1.25mm
2.62 oring - 2.05mm
3.53 oring - 2.80mm

(70shore NBR)

Yes, there are two o-rings on each mounting point, sandwiching the plate between o-rings.

Also, thanks for this chart Ill look into this :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #176 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 00:15:00 »
Hi, the Discord invite seems to have expired. If its still open to all, would you mind renewing it please?

Also, could you have some renders of a fully assembled board, with keycaps please?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #177 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 03:51:44 »
Can I have the 1800 variant? Or is it southpaw only?
Would love to join this, but the knob kinda throws me off...

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #178 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 10:55:30 »
Can I have the 1800 variant? Or is it southpaw only?
Would love to join this, but the knob kinda throws me off...
There is an Alice Everest variant that will be done sometime after the southpaw Mountain Alice here. There's a bit more info in the discord
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #179 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 11:17:19 »
Hi, the Discord invite seems to have expired. If its still open to all, would you mind renewing it please?

Also, could you have some renders of a fully assembled board, with keycaps please?

The discord link is fixed again, for some reason it wasn't unlimited

https://discord.gg/tnJNZJy6Tf

Yes, i'll get the keycap renders in soon!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #180 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 12:00:41 »
I thought I would keep liking smaller and smaller boards... and then this comes along :D

Looks great! Probably still depending on the price... but I'll get one if I can!

One question - have you thought about a gray color? I see that in two-tone renders there are some gray parts, but none of them are on top. I'd love to see a render of a gray top and maroon bottom (kinda reverse of the first two-tone render).

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #181 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 00:11:00 »
count me in!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #182 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 01:21:53 »
I am willing to give my left arm for an Alice layout with arrows and ISO support. However, I'm not sure that a southpaw layout is a good fit for me (especially given that I no longer have my left arm..)

Best of luck with this!  :)

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #183 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 10:13:47 »
I am willing to give my left arm for an Alice layout with arrows and ISO support. However, I'm not sure that a southpaw layout is a good fit for me (especially given that I no longer have my left arm..)

Best of luck with this!  :)
Good thing they have developed the Alice Everest! Here's a link to the Discord: https://discord.gg/CgQQfNBk

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support!
« Reply #184 on: Fri, 18 June 2021, 03:41:21 »
Good thing they have developed the Alice Everest! Here's a link to the Discord: https://discord.gg/CgQQfNBk

Ooohhhh - thanks for linking that!  :-*

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Keycap renders are out.

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Renders look great. Prototype soon??

this is an easy win for us all

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What an absolute unit, bring on the larger boards!

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On the renders there's an inner weight, but why not make the weight visible from back outside case?

[img width=267 height=120]https://i.imgur.com/in3VqH2.jpg[/img

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Renders look great. Prototype soon??

Yes, when Gondo finishes the PCB

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Still keeping an eye out for this!
Glad to see you getting so much progress in, hopefully will get in on the board. Something I did not know I needed.


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Beautiful board and wrist rest combination, very well thought through.  I would buy but I will wait for the non southpaw version to become reality.
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Ok guys, big update today! I'll stream the design of the Mountain Alice again. I'm re-hauling the PCB to fit new features and a new microcontroller. That's gonna happen in approximately 3h in my Twitch channel.
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Hope to see wath the knob can do  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! (KEYCAP RENDERS OUT)
« Reply #196 on: Fri, 06 August 2021, 20:59:47 »
Any way to make the encoder optional? if not is there a way to get a shorter knob? seems tall imo, ive thought the same about the Sat 75 tho

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! (KEYCAP RENDERS OUT)
« Reply #197 on: Mon, 09 August 2021, 03:51:19 »
Any way to make the encoder optional? if not is there a way to get a shorter knob? seems tall imo, ive thought the same about the Sat 75 tho

If you can find a knob with the same diameter sure, you most likely can. I'll update the GEEKHACK.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! (KEYCAP RENDERS OUT)
« Reply #198 on: Tue, 10 August 2021, 09:31:54 »
Would love to see a render of this board with ISO enter. :eek:

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! (KEYCAP RENDERS OUT)
« Reply #199 on: Sun, 05 September 2021, 04:59:46 »
Following!
Hope to see a future version, after this, with f-row and no numpad.
GLWIC!