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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #300 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 11:33:58 »
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :p

Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
From what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.

It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.

The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.

His first message said some, his second message said all, and I know I'm not the only one who hasn't had a message, I have also sent him a friendly message myself and still got no reply, we shall see
That is rather odd.  I've gotten multiple messages...

guess im just unlucky

to be fair, when i thought that it was 1 or 2 that went out, i was confident it would get sorted, but after finding out the scale, ive given up any hope of a resolution anyway, we shall see, as i say, no communication with me at all
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #301 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:00:02 »
Maybe the PMs got lost in the mail somewhere.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #302 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:07:57 »
Maybe the PMs got lost in the mail somewhere.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #303 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:46:36 »
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring.  I will go undercover.  Deep undercover.  Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up.  I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism.  He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop.  And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop.  So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop.  Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly.  I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game.  Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas.  I will get to the bottom of this.  Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC.  :thumb:  We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals.  And demik's bar tab too, probably.

Umm, sorry no.  Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks.  I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise.  (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.)   So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive.  No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes.  That is the one absolute rule.  Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.

Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip!  We just need our funding to come through.

Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing:  most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps.  I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin.  (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome.  Also, Jason is a bit older than me.)  The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair.  I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me.  We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way.  TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly.  Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.


I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #304 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:57:36 »
I looked over my fake today before I sent it to CC.  It was made WAY below CC's standards.  Clearly not genuine and frankly not a very nice cap.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #305 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:59:31 »
I looked over my fake today before I sent it to CC.  It was made WAY below CC's standards.  Clearly not genuine and frankly not a very nice cap.

yeah there is seriously no mistaking it for the real deal
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #306 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:04:09 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #307 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:12:15 »
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #308 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:14:14 »
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #309 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:14:59 »
I just found out something about a person and a thing.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #310 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:16:09 »
Wellcome to korea

If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s

My home is  accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.

If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  :rolleyes:



Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring.  I will go undercover.  Deep undercover.  Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up.  I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism.  He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop.  And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop.  So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop.  Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly.  I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game.  Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas.  I will get to the bottom of this.  Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC.  :thumb:  We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals.  And demik's bar tab too, probably.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #311 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:17:51 »


If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  ::)




Definitely going to need to see the bottom....

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #312 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:18:03 »
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #313 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:18:48 »
Wellcome to korea

If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s

My home is  accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.

If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  :rolleyes:

When can I visit? Definitely has to be during a major GSL or other SC2 event :p
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #314 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:19:13 »
Screw the fake worries, Zenuty is loaded! :D
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #315 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:22:36 »
Wellcome to korea

If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s

My home is  accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.

If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  :rolleyes:



Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring.  I will go undercover.  Deep undercover.  Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up.  I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism.  He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop.  And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop.  So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop.  Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly.  I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game.  Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas.  I will get to the bottom of this.  Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC.  :thumb:  We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals.  And demik's bar tab too, probably.
I'm sure zenuty would house you, feed you some of his delicious food, and aide you on your journey.;
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #316 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:23:00 »
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.

(Attachment Link)

What if CC photographed each clack individually, and put a maker's mark of some kind on each one? Buy one of those heated engraving pens, put something, anything -- a number (1 of 25) -- so everything could be authenticated? Also, is there something unique that the Chinese make that we could ruthlessly infringe upon?

Faking things?


What's to stop someone from faking the mark on the bottom?

An angry mob?

The correct answer is: absolutely nothing. We all know it. And if/when that happens, I fear there will be likely zero way to know whether you're getting something original or not.

Why not get one of those pen engravers, and CF can etch 1 of # on each? Add a little to the price to pay for the extra effort. These are works of art -- limited editions. Why not label them as such? Then photograph each one -- ah, you know what, I just managed to unconvince myself. CF should just sell them at a market rate, so that at least the money ends up in his pockets, and not a goddamned forger's.

The only upside to this is that the clack market (which so many people hated) is now ruined.

Also, if he put a 1 of X on his caps, then people would know how many he makes in a batch and that's verbotten sir.

Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring.  I will go undercover.  Deep undercover.  Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up.  I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism.  He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop.  And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop.  So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop.  Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly.  I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game.  Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas.  I will get to the bottom of this.  Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC.  :thumb:  We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals.  And demik's bar tab too, probably.

Umm, sorry no.  Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks.  I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise.  (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.)   So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive.  No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes.  That is the one absolute rule.  Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.

Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip!  We just need our funding to come through.

Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing:  most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps.  I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin.  (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome.  Also, Jason is a bit older than me.)  The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair.  I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me.  We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way.  TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly.  Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.


I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?

Because they don't need any one new slowing them down?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #317 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:29:17 »
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #318 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:31:22 »
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.

Sharing is caring :)

Nothing to do with Clacks but CPTBadAss got his mad dogs today
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #319 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:35:18 »
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.

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Nothing to do with Clacks but CPTBadAss got his mad dogs tpday

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #320 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:06:38 »
Wellcome to korea

If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s

My home is  accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.

If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  :rolleyes:



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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #321 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:28:31 »
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!

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Re: fake clack discussion
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #323 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:30:50 »
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!

:)) :)) :))

That's why I wanted to be on the dream team :D

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #325 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:39:50 »
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!

:)) :)) :))
i don't give a **** about clacks, but going to zenuty's mansion is appealing
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #327 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:42:55 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #328 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:56:27 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #329 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:57:30 »
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #330 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:58:29 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #331 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:58:55 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #332 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:02:31 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?


totally!!!!!


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^^ that never gets old :D

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #333 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:05:11 »
Ok, so instead of " # of # " CF should do a Seal Team Six. Just put a few random numbers or letters on each, make a note of them, and then CF at least could authenticate from a photo. The fakes arent great now but they could get better.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #334 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:09:04 »
The fakes are of Clacks that are older and rarer, driving the prices up. These caps are the ones likely to be focused on, and are the ones that aren't going to have random letters or numbers on them.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #335 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:12:24 »
Ok, so instead of " # of # " CF should do a Seal Team Six. Just put a few random numbers or letters on each, make a note of them, and then CF at least could authenticate from a photo. The fakes arent great now but they could get better.

That doesn't change much. Somebody could get a Clack, copy it including the number a few times and sell/trade the copies non-public.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #336 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:13:16 »
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring.  I will go undercover.  Deep undercover.  Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up.  I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism.  He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop.  And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop.  So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop.  Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly.  I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game.  Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas.  I will get to the bottom of this.  Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC.  :thumb:  We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals.  And demik's bar tab too, probably.

Umm, sorry no.  Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks.  I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise.  (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.)   So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive.  No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes.  That is the one absolute rule.  Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.

Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip!  We just need our funding to come through.

Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing:  most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps.  I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin.  (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome.  Also, Jason is a bit older than me.)  The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair.  I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me.  We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way.  TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly.  Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.


I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?


Well, first of all the Infiltration Dream Team of Counterfeit Clack Avengers  (IDTOCCA) was only a prototype.  Second, due to financial constraints, it had to be limited to four members who had the following traits:  brutish strength (demik), Korean language skills (Sifo), counterfeit Clack demolition skills (kmiller8).  The only job left for you was Team Leader.  Which was my job.  And I wasn't going to give away my job.  But now that budgetary constraints have been lifted, I need a young, sexy Asian co-captain of my team, and I was thinking of asking you, if you're not too busy.

Also, whenever I'm in Seoul, I always stay at the Zenuty mansion, it's quite fabulous.  Filled with KMAC's, bags of fried shrimp puffs, and empty noodle cups, but still fabulous.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #337 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:20:51 »
I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?


Well, first of all the Infiltration Dream Team of Counterfeit Clack Avengers  (IDTOCCA) was only a prototype.  Second, due to financial constraints, it had to be limited to four members who had the following traits:  brutish strength (demik), Korean language skills (Sifo), counterfeit Clack demolition skills (kmiller8).  The only job left for you was Team Leader.  Which was my job.  And I wasn't going to give away my job.  But now that budgetary constraints have been lifted, I need a young, sexy Asian co-captain of my team, and I was thinking of asking you, if you're not too busy.

Also, whenever I'm in Seoul, I always stay at the Zenuty mansion, it's quite fabulous.  Filled with KMAC's, bags of fried shrimp puffs, and empty noodle cups, but still fabulous.

eth0s, if you're Jason Statham, I'll be the Mei to your Luke <3. And Zenuty's mansion sounds incredible @.@.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #338 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:55:25 »
Get your Ramen today! Free clack in every cup!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #339 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:58:04 »
Get your Ramen today! Free clack in every cup!

That's r...

Oh, nevermind.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #340 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:00:09 »
It sounded like Zenuty's house.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #341 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:17:51 »
Get legal onto it. Undercover.


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #342 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:26:07 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?

Wow.

Also, I'm way stronger than demik.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #343 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:32:31 »
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller them


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #344 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:33:35 »
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller them

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Its kmiller time?
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #345 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:34:10 »
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller them

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I heard those were all the rage in china.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #346 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:35:23 »


If you want proof i would show to you a pictures.  ::)




Definitely going to need to see the bottom....


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #347 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:40:02 »
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller them

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Its kmiller time?


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #348 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:40:49 »
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.

I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
You're probably right  ;)
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?

Wow.

Also, I'm way stronger than demik.

But I have charisma!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #349 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:41:13 »
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller them

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I heard those were all the rage in china.

Wow... SpAmRaYcIsT.