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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: takaki on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:07:21

Title: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:07:21
Brought forward to interest check thread to get a feel of the interest level so I can see if I can get a better pricing for everyone.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38765.0

87 key top plate
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/940854_572550532784542_1675391901_n.jpg)

96 key type.
(http://i.imgur.com/qz8vF6V.jpg)

jdcarpe/Profosist's custom layout
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/plates/PRF125.png)

Current intended / final production features
- Hole at the bottom to allow reprogramming of the teensy chip without having to take out the casing.
- Optional 1cm tall rubber feets (same height increment when you actually used the stands on your keyboard instead of a weird angled acrylic block
- Custom laser engraving of your choice
- Customizable colours
- Able to use your own plate, case specific plate not required.
- Able to fit the big as hell stock filco cable
- a sexy as hell casing

More customizations means higher prices, but I would get the quotes for you guys, just ask for the feature you are interested in :)

Simple google form here.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cZodsH33_sdaSRfCt1oar-ez9FzPe3ReM7bbuNDeJfc/viewform

The current ball park figure is 50-60usd without shipping, I hope we can go lower with significant numbers, this is a budget casing after all. :) Prototype is already out, waiting for the WFD's plate to reach me to get the final fitting done.

Your comments and everything is much appreciated, I understand that this looks like what litster has done before and there was a woe with MKC. Well I just wish for myself to get one for my phantom build as well as hoping to make this affordable for everyone to get as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: HannibalChew on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:33:22
Wow 50-60USD! That's an amazing price! I would defiantly be interested if i had a TKL board :(
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:35:48
im in for at least couple of them depending on the color options :)

the area above the arrow keys will be covered with acrylic to cover the exposed PCB right?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:53:02
im in for at least couple of them depending on the color options :)

the area above the arrow keys will be covered with acrylic to cover the exposed PCB right?

Do refer to the first picture for the 87 key variant! the 87 key type will have the acrylic to cover the top part above the keys.

Can do some engraving there as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:55:02
I'd buy at least one.

Would be awesome if there was an option for the GH60 as well ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 18 May 2013, 14:00:21
I'd be interested in a black, silver, or possibly charcoal colors (87-key).
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Sai on Sat, 18 May 2013, 14:07:55
it should be possible to get the case without the LED holes, am i right?
i don't really like the led holes like in filco.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 14:24:15
ofcourse hopefully you can make them to fit QFR boards
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 May 2013, 16:18:39
Can't wait to see this case.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 18 May 2013, 16:21:37
If you've been able to track down the files, and are willing to share them, I'd love to be able to use them. :)

Edited: Meant to sound like I was saying please.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: reality404 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 16:22:50
Thanks for the interest check and for designing the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 18 May 2013, 16:32:13
Cool :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 16:56:13
I'm interested.

It would be great if there were different colored acrylic cases. Like smoke grey, transparent red, transparent blue.

I would love a smoke grey case.

A smoke grey case would look better with my dsa key caps. The slight curve on the standard tenkeyless filco case makes the top dsa keys look weird. A straight case would make them look better.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: nebo on Sat, 18 May 2013, 17:09:38
Interested, but would be be possible to have the old "Winkeyless_Arrclus"  layout?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: gliy on Sat, 18 May 2013, 18:18:44
Have you been able to track down the files at all?

He mentioned that he would talk to the guy this Monday about the designs.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: affect656 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 18:30:42
I'm interested.

It would be great if there were different colored acrylic cases. Like smoke grey, transparent red, transparent blue.

I would love a smoke grey case.

A smoke grey case would look better with my dsa key caps. The slight curve on the standard tenkeyless filco case makes the top dsa keys look weird. A straight case would make them look better.
Smoke Grey with clear switches and white leds would be awesome
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rayne on Sat, 18 May 2013, 18:41:08
super interested in one of these for my filco, cant wait to see what kind of color options would be available! :D
and the engraving seems like an awesome idea as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 18 May 2013, 19:01:36
Have you been able to track down the files at all?

Why can't you just buy it here though? Instead of taking someones work? lol
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 19:18:00
I'm interested.

It would be great if there were different colored acrylic cases. Like smoke grey, transparent red, transparent blue.

I would love a smoke grey case.

A smoke grey case would look better with my dsa key caps. The slight curve on the standard tenkeyless filco case makes the top dsa keys look weird. A straight case would make them look better.
Smoke Grey with clear switches and white leds would be awesome
I don't understand this, why does it matter what colour the switches are when the keycaps are going to cover them?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 18 May 2013, 19:33:36
is the prof/jd layout just a different plate from the regular 96 key? Otherwise the same?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:51:58
is the prof/jd layout just a different plate from the regular 96 key? Otherwise the same?

2 more switches in the function row.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 18 May 2013, 21:46:34
is the prof/jd layout just a different plate from the regular 96 key? Otherwise the same?

2 more switches in the function row.
haha sorry i didnt notice, thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 18 May 2013, 22:06:14
This might get real interesting.  Please use differing colours between the layers.  That is what makes acrylic more unique than any other material for this type of keyboard manufacture.

Plus they're way cheaper than aluminum.

Please put some colour samples up so that we can vote on what to select.  Or can this Group Buy be truly colour customized for each customer?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:04:24
I would like at least one.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:10:30
Just realised that there are already proper terms for the casing designs like

Standard, Arrclus, Winkeyless, Winkeyless_Arrclus.

I will look into it but winkeyless is going to be complicated considering the fact that there are 1.5x and 1.25x variations of winkeyless, do let me know which one you are interested in.
I am trying my best to make the order as customizable as possible but likewise, more customizations means more cost, do keep that in mind.

The current feel of the interest in colours, do let me know which colours you guys are interested in so I can get colour samples taken for you guys to choose.

Translucent/Transaparent :
Blue
Red
Orange
Smoked Black/Grey
Purple
Pink

Opaque:
Black
Silver
Orange?
Blue?

*added more colours :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:11:54
Just realised that there are already proper terms for the casing designs like

Standard, Arrclus, Winkeyless, Winkeyless_Arrclus.

I will look into it but winkeyless is going to be complicated considering the fact that there are 1.5x and 1.25x variations of winkeyless, do let me know which one you are interested in.
I am trying my best to make the order as customizable as possible but likewise, more customizations means more cost, do keep that in mind.

The current feel of the interest in colours, do let me know which colours you guys are interested in so I can get colour samples taken for you guys to choose.

Translucent/Transaparent :
Blue
Red
Orange
Smoked Black/Grey

Opaque:
Black
Silver
Orange?
Blue?

No Pink or Purple QQ
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:12:40
Have you been able to track down the files at all?

Why can't you just buy it here though? Instead of taking someones work? lol
I have the means to cut this myself, so I'd rather not wait for the GB. Also, this may permit me to try and cut it out of wood etc.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:15:09

No Pink or Purple QQ

Added :O :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:24:41
Have you been able to track down the files at all?

Why can't you just buy it here though? Instead of taking someones work? lol
I have the means to cut this myself, so I'd rather not wait for the GB. Also, this may permit me to try and cut it out of wood etc.

Can't wait? Then do it yourself instead of demanding for someones work?  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:26:03

No Pink or Purple QQ

Added :O :D

Thanks! I'm going to buy a TKL now lol
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:26:29
Demanding is a bit harsh, but not waiting for the GB is not the only reason as I said. I'd love to test out cutting this out of wood or some high density plastic that I have at school.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:39:08
Demanding is a bit harsh, but not waiting for the GB is not the only reason as I said. I'd love to test out cutting this out of wood or some high density plastic that I have at school.

I understand. Maybe a "please" when  you ask for these things? No beef against you, just wasn't happy when someone takes another person's work like that.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:39:23
Who wants to wire up a teensy for me? uh? uh?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:40:33
Demanding is a bit harsh, but not waiting for the GB is not the only reason as I said. I'd love to test out cutting this out of wood or some high density plastic that I have at school.

I understand. Maybe a "please" when  you ask for these things? No beef against you, just wasn't happy when someone takes another person's work like that.
Good point, I meant to sound like I was saying please. Ah the joys of the internet. :P
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: gliy on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:43:11
Demanding is a bit harsh, but not waiting for the GB is not the only reason as I said. I'd love to test out cutting this out of wood or some high density plastic that I have at school.

I understand. Maybe a "please" when  you ask for these things? No beef against you, just wasn't happy when someone takes another person's work like that.

No one is attempting to take his work, people are asking if he is willing to share his files, what is the point of doing the same work twice? It's his choice to give them out, or to keep them private.

Also I don't think hes done a prototype for the phantom yet, just for a filco.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:45:03
Demanding is a bit harsh, but not waiting for the GB is not the only reason as I said. I'd love to test out cutting this out of wood or some high density plastic that I have at school.

I understand. Maybe a "please" when  you ask for these things? No beef against you, just wasn't happy when someone takes another person's work like that.
Good point, I meant to sound like I was saying please. Ah the joys of the internet. :P

It seriously sounds like you were demanding.  :p Ah internet!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: cyberwave on Sun, 19 May 2013, 00:59:58
support local product!
 ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:25:39
I've done this case for the phantom in mind. The QFR and the filco compatibility is just a bonus feature since phantom is made to be compatible with Filco and QFR layouts.

I just don't have everything of the phantom to do the fit test and give the assurance/guarantee for phantom. This issue will settled once I have the plate with me, or I can get an acrylic plate made --> more cost but definitely cheaper than the Stainless steel version.

smallfry, i just wish you could stop asking me every other day, as of now, the files won't be released publicly. That said I don't even have the files on my computer :)), it is all at the manufacturing site. Making a trip there tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Kayliss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:30:02
Looks interesting, submitted form for one because I need a purple case!  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:39:21
Do you guys prefer transparent/translucent colours or opaque colours ?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Kayliss on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:46:32
Do you guys prefer transparent/translucent colours or opaque colours ?

I think it's nice to have a mix of both. My preference would be opaque base clear middle and translucent colour on the top or something like that :O
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: habitualapse on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:52:25
I'd def be in for at least one in translucent black, but i'm anxious to see what other options pan out.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: deSheol on Sun, 19 May 2013, 01:57:42
Do you guys prefer transparent/translucent colours or opaque colours ?

I think it's nice to have a mix of both. My preference would be opaque base clear middle and translucent colour on the top or something like that :O

Both works fine!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 19 May 2013, 02:42:21
Do you guys prefer transparent/translucent colours or opaque colours ?
I think i would personally like the transparent ones better, im deffinetly in for a purple one, and possibly one other color, just not sure witch one yet. hmmm... decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 19 May 2013, 03:46:11
The current feel of the interest in colours, do let me know which colours you guys are interested in so I can get colour samples taken for you guys to choose.

Translucent/Transaparent :
Blue
Red
Orange
Smoked Black/Grey
Purple
Pink

Opaque:
Black
Silver
Orange?
Blue?

*added more colours :D

Now that's what I'm talking about.  I would love a bright sandwich coloured baby ie., Opaque Silver on TOP and Transparent Smoked Grey in the middle with Transparent Red on the Bottom of the Case.

That would be my keyboard case to fit a spare Filco TKL.  Please let us know if you can also build a full 104 keyboard case, I will be willing to pay whatever for that  8) .
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 19 May 2013, 03:53:18
Just noticed your Google Form, all filled out - Thanks for running this  ;) .

Please can you show us some samples of the Acrylic if that's not too much of a hassle?  Currently my version of a colour might not be the version you are currently arranging to buy.

Just need to be sure what's exactly available to use, I don't see I would change the order but I need to see some samples so that I might consider paying for another keyboard case.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Sun, 19 May 2013, 06:56:18
I understand that, that's why I'm getting the interest check done so I could get the manufacturer to prepare some colour samples for me to view and take photo. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Jupiter on Sun, 19 May 2013, 07:00:56
Definitely interested in this!

One question: is the only difference between the two layouts the top acrylic layer? As in, would we be able to the the whole case and then both top layers to build and test different layouts?

I only ask as I'm still not sure on what I want (96 or 87 key :P )
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 19 May 2013, 07:14:29
Just a note takaki : In prof's layout there is no gap between the f key clusters, whereas in your 96-key case there is. Just letting you know.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: pasph on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:00:59
Brown color?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Mon, 20 May 2013, 03:52:29
My bad that it should be 92 keys instead of 96, 96 refers to the 7bit kind of configuration
Going to view the colours in a couple of hour's time and I forgot to bring my camera to work, damn. Gonna work with colour codes and phone camera.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 20 May 2013, 05:38:03
Gonna work with colour codes and phone camera.

Yippee, bring on the Potato Pics  8) .  Make sure you take heaps or what can be stored on your SD card.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 20 May 2013, 07:51:15
Alrighty, thank you. Sorry to annoy ya.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Mon, 20 May 2013, 08:56:52
Just got out of office, the amount of colors available is a little bit over what I've expected.
Now to play with colour combinations, will upload some pictures later.

There is even some matt finished acrylic sheets available. Not sure if you guys will like Matt or glossy better.
Any votes?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:05:03
I would prefer matte since I would mark up glossy finishes with my fingerprints.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 20 May 2013, 09:15:09
Matte since glossy looks bad unless it's always clean.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 10:58:23
Do they have a smoke matte?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:41:18
Smoke meaning slight grey colour right ? I've seen the Matt black, it is a quite grey in colour, but I just couldn't picture a matt surface and "smoke" colour together.

Here is a potato picture of all the pieces of colour samples thrown at me today at the office, give me a little time to sort it the pictures out.
(http://i.imgur.com/jrdJsI2.jpg)|

If you take take a look at PLF524 (bottom left), is it the kind of matt smoke you are looking for? Greyish matt stuff that isn't really transparent, about 80% opaque.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Dsan on Mon, 20 May 2013, 12:54:31
Do you have an ETA for payments?I'd really like one of these cases :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rule16 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 14:19:03
Oooooo the neon green (d-m-993) and neon orange (idunno its got a bigass sticker on it :( ) are hawt.... But would only go well with backlighting probablly... This wouldnt fit a ducky shine ii tkl would it?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:20:41
Do you have any time frame or rough estimate for these?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Megaweapon on Mon, 20 May 2013, 18:38:06
Oooooo the neon green (d-m-993)

That green would work great with the toxic set caps.

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 19:10:10
Smoke meaning slight grey colour right ? I've seen the Matt black, it is a quite grey in colour, but I just couldn't picture a matt surface and "smoke" colour together.

Here is a potato picture of all the pieces of colour samples thrown at me today at the office, give me a little time to sort it the pictures out.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jrdJsI2.jpg)
|

If you take take a look at PLF524 (bottom left), is it the kind of matt smoke you are looking for? Greyish matt stuff that isn't really transparent, about 80% opaque.

I'll take that grey 80 percent opaque.

Hopefully, you get some better pictures so I can see the difference.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 20 May 2013, 19:26:44
I really like the see-through black/dark gray. I think those will have mass appeal whereas something like a bright yellow will only have small amount of interest.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Rayne on Mon, 20 May 2013, 19:40:36
Oooooo the neon green (d-m-993)
OMG this soo much, i would buy the crap out of that color
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:15:10
Most of the colour there on the table are only available as the top and bottom layer. The centre layer uses a different thickness of acrylic and the colours available for the centre portion is definitely not going to be as much as the top and bottom layer.

as for any final dates, I would really want to use to finalise the design with a fit test on the phantom.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 20 May 2013, 20:41:53
would be nice to have some cases for full boards too, CM XT , Filco , Ducky.... bunch of people with 104 boards around here
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:44:06
can definitely look into doing up a 104, I am just worried about the fit wise, are all the profiles of the different keyboard's plates+pcb of the same dimensions ? etc etc
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Moomoo on Mon, 20 May 2013, 22:50:01
Get this going nao!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Tue, 21 May 2013, 01:48:53
In due time, in due time :)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: pasph on Tue, 21 May 2013, 05:26:45
+1 for 104 keys case
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:12:54
can definitely look into doing up a 104, I am just worried about the fit wise, are all the profiles of the different keyboard's plates+pcb of the same dimensions ? etc etc

When you said 104 setup my heart skipped a beat.  PLEASE do it.

Totally happy if the Acrylic Case can hold a Cherry G80-3000 series board.  Have heaps of those and would probably buy two for now with the possibility of getting more later.

I will of course buy one TKL case for a spare filco board laying around but definitely want a beautiful 104 case for some Cherry Goodness.

This Group Buy is starting to get EXCITING.....  :o
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:23:32
Interested if they are available for QFR!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 07:35:11
can definitely look into doing up a 104, I am just worried about the fit wise, are all the profiles of the different keyboard's plates+pcb of the same dimensions ? etc etc

that's a good question, I know that Filco, Rosewill and soon upcoming CM XT are made by Costar. Here is the trick, Rosewill uses mini USB detachable, Filco has the attached cord, while the CM XT will have detachable USB plug and not mini USB.

I guess when time comes for you to give the 104 boards a shot, for example I have a Rosewill board and when CM XT comes out will have at least few of those in different switches. If you need us to open them up and take measurements we can do that.

EDIT: Imagine how many people would love to get rid of the Rosewill casing just because of the logo on them, also will give Rosewill users to check the mini usb for solder joint failure and they can redoit and add some guerila glue to it to be trouble free for a very long time.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: BimboBB on Tue, 21 May 2013, 08:08:11
104/105 would be nice. my filco case looks a bit used already.

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 09:15:13
Thank you guys so much for the suggestion and possible help on getting the measurement done!! Will definitely consult you guys for it when we move on to the 104 case!

First we need to get this TKL settled. I'm going to receive the colour samples tags in the next day or two, I really don't like my potato picture taken at the laser guy's office. Will post some that I took later but first things first.... QFR support huh ? So I've gotten myself one QFR to test things out...Sweet box mmhmm
(http://i.imgur.com/EBlTwYsl.jpg)
Keyboard exposed
(http://i.imgur.com/DbqPiuvl.jpg)
Do not remove ??
(http://i.imgur.com/JTRxBbGl.jpg)
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IT FITSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS and it fits quite nicely like how the filco does.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 09:17:32
Woo hoo!!!

That's the keyboard I have.

Yay! It will work.

So it fits the Filco as well as the QFR. Is this correct?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 09:23:50
Yes but you might have to get a new cable or we come out with a solution for the lack of 4 pin connector to USB male cable.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Permeability on Wed, 22 May 2013, 09:36:45
Awesome, we just need to find out if it fits a board with a plate in it :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco [Maybe QFR as well]
Post by: whiskytango on Wed, 22 May 2013, 10:35:59
Yes but you might have to get a new cable or we come out with a solution for the lack of 4 pin connector to USB male cable.

Do you have a picture of the inside of the case where the hole for the USB connection will be? Might it possible to simply mount the daughter board from the QFR into this case?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:15:49
Time frame is I can start accepting orders from next week :)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:16:54
Yes but you might have to get a new cable or we come out with a solution for the lack of 4 pin connector to USB male cable.

Do you have a picture of the inside of the case where the hole for the USB connection will be? Might it possible to simply mount the daughter board from the QFR into this case?
Possible, it is a pcb that converts the 4 pins to female mini b

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 22 May 2013, 12:27:54
Time frame is I can start accepting orders from next week :)
Awesome!

Just realised that there are already proper terms for the casing designs like

Standard, Arrclus, Winkeyless, Winkeyless_Arrclus.

I will look into it but winkeyless is going to be complicated considering the fact that there are 1.5x and 1.25x variations of winkeyless, do let me know which one you are interested in.
I am trying my best to make the order as customizable as possible but likewise, more customizations means more cost, do keep that in mind.

The current feel of the interest in colours, do let me know which colours you guys are interested in so I can get colour samples taken for you guys to choose.

Translucent/Transaparent :
Blue
Red
Orange
Smoked Black/Grey
Purple
Pink

Opaque:
Black
Silver
Orange?
Blue?

*added more colours :D
I missed this earlier. I think most people interested in winkeyless only care about 1.5 mods
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Wed, 22 May 2013, 19:21:39
Time frame is I can start accepting orders from next week :)

YAY cant wait! I'm so excited for these :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 22 May 2013, 19:58:02
Time frame is I can start accepting orders from next week :)

Sweeeeeet! I just need to make the impossible decision on what colors!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Wed, 22 May 2013, 20:26:51
I'm in for a case
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 21:26:16
in for a case like  I said previously, OP what sort of modifying we have to do to the case for the QFR cable to fit, or we have to have short cable connected that will stick out of the case with a mini USB female at the end?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:22:21
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:23:32
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?

Don't the QFR's have removable cables?

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:25:42
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?

Don't the QFR's have removable cables?



yes it has, but will they be able to leave a cut out hole to fit the QFR exposed female mini usb is the question.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:30:46
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?

Don't the QFR's have removable cables?



yes it has, but will they be able to leave a cut out hole to fit the QFR exposed female mini usb is the question.

That makes more sense :))
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:37:07
I can have screw holes drilled at the bottom layer to mount the daughterboard so you can still use back the old mini usb port.
Either that or you can ditch the whole cable and mini usb port completely and get a custom "filco" cable made.

The current design allows filco users to use back their old filco usb cable and there are some specific holes created so you can just snug fit the cable like the original filco case. The hole is rather small and it doesn't seem to be able to fit something like a micro usb port.

I will definitely look into this more specifically and come out with a better design to solve this cable issue.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:39:58
any news on 1.5 wkl layout as well ?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:41:30
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?

It works exactly the same as how it would work on the filco.. the final phase of this prototyping is only anchoring on the design of the bottom layer to accommodate teensy, filco and QFR cabling issues. And yes also about the colour combinations.  I'll post pictures after I'm done with work today.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:42:29
any news on 1.5 wkl layout as well ?

definitely looking into it, so far it seems like there are only 2 interest indicated for 1.5x winkeyless top panel.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Wed, 22 May 2013, 22:44:59
need more people on 1.5x WKL !!!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 22 May 2013, 23:24:37
need more people on 1.5x WKL !!!

can I join in the club? : p
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Wed, 22 May 2013, 23:49:47
need more people on 1.5x WKL !!!

can I join in the club? : p

yes. you can. :P
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Thu, 23 May 2013, 00:39:22
need more people on 1.5x WKL !!!
I wish i had a WKL board :(
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: jabar on Thu, 23 May 2013, 00:49:02
Can you do the 96 key 7bit layout?

e: or is that the PRF/jcarpe custom one?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 01:18:43
I just realised not long ago that the 7bit layout refers to the design on prf/wfd's plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 23 May 2013, 01:31:06
Do you have any pictures to give me an idea of how the USB cable will work with a Filco or QFR?

It works exactly the same as how it would work on the filco.. the final phase of this prototyping is only anchoring on the design of the bottom layer to accommodate teensy, filco and QFR cabling issues. And yes also about the colour combinations.  I'll post pictures after I'm done with work today.

Anxious to see this.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: jabar on Thu, 23 May 2013, 01:31:26
cool, definitely need one for my 7bit phantom! any conservative color matte top would be fine (grey, black, brown, maybe white).
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:31:45
takaki, do you have pics of the inside without the keyboard mounted? I'm asking because if it fits a quickfire TKL, then it might not work for phantom because the edges of the plates are different. Stock Filco and CM plates have a small right-angle bend on the front and back, my Phantom plates are just flat. I don't think you mentioned standoffs, so mounting phantom may not work.

You should get my plates soon. It was one of the first ones I shipped out  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:41:06
takaki, do you have pics of the inside without the keyboard mounted? I'm asking because if it fits a quickfire TKL, then it might not work for phantom because the edges of the plates are different. Stock Filco and CM plates have a small right-angle bend on the front and back, my Phantom plates are just flat. I don't think you mentioned standoffs, so mounting phantom may not work.

You should get my plates soon. It was one of the first ones I shipped out  ;)

Did you get my PM regarding the stab yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: BimboBB on Thu, 23 May 2013, 02:44:03
Interested in 1.5 WKL Layout and standoffs would be great as well.



Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 03:05:36
takaki, do you have pics of the inside without the keyboard mounted? I'm asking because if it fits a quickfire TKL, then it might not work for phantom because the edges of the plates are different. Stock Filco and CM plates have a small right-angle bend on the front and back, my Phantom plates are just flat. I don't think you mentioned standoffs, so mounting phantom may not work.

You should get my plates soon. It was one of the first ones I shipped out  ;)

I get what you mean, thus I am waiting for the plate to come before I actually accept orders. Basically there is a inner layer that would be big enough for the PCB to slide through but too small for the plate, thus the plate sits on that layer. Gonna test with the phantom plate to see if it fits. Thanks for shipping it out earlier :)

The items are in hongkong already, tomorrow should be in singapore. Everything seems to be going according to schedule.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: phinix on Thu, 23 May 2013, 05:29:32
How high is it? Is it higher than original QFR case?
I would like to see shorter case...
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:50:50
The current casing height is measured at 18mm then you add the height of your keycaps. I am going to add another 10mm tall rubber feet to act as feets which is totally optional if you don't like feets.

Colour samples in my bag.. Must say that neon green + white centre with orange bottom layer reminds me of gummy burgers.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:19:20
The current casing height is measured at 18mm then you add the height of your keycaps. I am going to add another 10mm tall rubber feet to act as feets which is totally optional if you don't like feets.

Colour samples in my bag.. Must say that neon green + white centre with orange bottom layer reminds me of gummy burgers.

Those are good. Yum!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 23 May 2013, 08:21:47
The current casing height is measured at 18mm then you add the height of your keycaps. I am going to add another 10mm tall rubber feet to act as feets which is totally optional if you don't like feets.

Colour samples in my bag.. Must say that neon green + white centre with orange bottom layer reminds me of gummy burgers.

Would you be able to make the feet removable? That would sound better.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 09:29:50
the feet will be stick on, removable of course.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 23 May 2013, 10:42:06
the feet will be stick on, removable of course.

Awesome! Can't wait then! ^_^
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 21:39:36
Smoked Black ?  :D Over Opague white to see smoked colour and transparency.
(http://i.imgur.com/lWnhdPEh.jpg)
Over black
(http://i.imgur.com/7z4YmfX.jpg)

Bring on the sexy red.
(http://i.imgur.com/FmwKYDXh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iegAlwj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9V0BeDd.jpg)

Matt Toxic Green, clear-->white-->Black
(http://i.imgur.com/X6R0Pwn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xmQS7Pr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qG8zT6K.jpg)

Matt Blue,
(http://i.imgur.com/EZfbj4E.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VLetLEz.jpg)

Translucent Green
(http://i.imgur.com/LRCccQ3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YS1Ctai.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rSbOE9v.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 23 May 2013, 21:48:40
There are some good color combinations. You might need to make at least one prototype to see how the colors work all together.

I don't know which to pick.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 23 May 2013, 21:50:18
That smoked black, that is what I want. Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: keymaster on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:10:08
Smoked on black!! These will be awesome
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:14:43
Black on white!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Thu, 23 May 2013, 22:37:37
that matt toxic green <<<333
want so bad!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:16:58
Basically, the centre portion can only be either opaque black, opaque white or clear.

The top layer and bottom layer can be customized
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Thu, 23 May 2013, 23:28:47
Basically, the centre portion can only be either opaque black, opaque white or clear.

The top layer and bottom layer can be customized
well im definitely in for  matt toxic green/opaque white/matt toxic green
and as i said earlier i will probably want two, not sure what color for the second one yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Fri, 24 May 2013, 01:24:12
(http://i.imgur.com/vTrkYN9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yfTN3eU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JEZZoTG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/j3CD9l1.jpg)

Translucent Orange
(http://i.imgur.com/KSBNrUI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WUoyX2B.jpg)

Matt light blue
(http://i.imgur.com/prM41zb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nRpbtCy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bptLIQn.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 24 May 2013, 03:09:09
Matte Toxic and clear all the way!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom &amp; Filco &amp; QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 24 May 2013, 04:28:17
Is that smoke over transparent red? That might be the one.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Fri, 24 May 2013, 07:50:33
That is actually red over opaque black.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:44:19
Can you do the plp 3010 over smoke?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:07:58
Stop giving me more choices! I'm tempted to get white/blue now so that I can through on my red alerts and have a 'Murica keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: BornEvil on Fri, 24 May 2013, 20:21:11
Smoke black on black looks cool.

Maybe even custom print some artwork (on paper) to slip between the layers. Possiblities are endless!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 24 May 2013, 20:27:34
Could you make a black top with the piece between the arrows and cluster above it cut out? Just the top sheet.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 25 May 2013, 00:00:01
I know this has likely been covered, but how much is this case going to cost?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Permeability on Sat, 25 May 2013, 00:01:49
I know this has likely been covered, but how much is this case going to cost?

In the OP it says 50-60 USD before shipping
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 25 May 2013, 00:39:04
What was confirmed? : o
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:26:46
QFR confirmed. 50-60 for clear acrylic, getting the quotes for all the coloured sheets.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Moomoo on Sat, 25 May 2013, 03:40:12
Where's the pink at?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 25 May 2013, 16:14:25
down for one in orange or red if with extra phantom keys (numpad)

will see where this goes....
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Sun, 26 May 2013, 00:56:24
the local most bang for buck acrylic sheet manufacturers don't have pink and purple sheets, gonna source elsewhere.

Just submit the interest check form, I'll mass email / pm when it is ready to go.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 26 May 2013, 02:22:48
What if we didn't fill out an IC? I wasn't sure what to choose since I think I'm one of the few that wants winkeyless w/ numpad.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Dsan on Sun, 26 May 2013, 04:58:22
the local most bang for buck acrylic sheet manufacturers don't have pink and purple sheets, gonna source elsewhere.

Just submit the interest check form, I'll mass email / pm when it is ready to go.

I'm not sure if I'll be ready to pay when the invoices'll come out.Can I fill the form and then eventually cancel it?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Sun, 26 May 2013, 05:58:15
Sure, this is just an interest check form. for me to gauge the interest of colours and get suggestion instead of just coming out with something BAM! and it is not the same as what everyone actually wants.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Sun, 26 May 2013, 05:59:18
What if we didn't fill out an IC? I wasn't sure what to choose since I think I'm one of the few that wants winkeyless w/ numpad.

No problem, like i said just an IC, not the actual order form don't worry. Will post on the group buy thread eventually, the different colours will have tier levels pricing just like keycaps, trying my best to make it as affordable as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:32:09
I'm not going to add to your IC form since the GB is confirmed... but I am definitely buying one because I don't want to dremel a poor Plu or Filco case to fit the 7bit layout. I like the matte blue on white! All the options actually look great!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Tisca on Tue, 28 May 2013, 04:21:33
So I watched a comparison video and concluded Filco and QFR boards are made by Costar but the Filco has a few more screws in the assembly. I don't know how the attachment to this acrylic case is but is there any chance if it would fit a Ducky TKL (US ANSI) model?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 28 May 2013, 04:48:54
What about 86 key layout?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: gnubag on Tue, 28 May 2013, 15:26:02
What about 86 key layout?

86 and 87 are the same (just the bottom row is different)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:51:34
So I watched a comparison video and concluded Filco and QFR boards are made by Costar but the Filco has a few more screws in the assembly. I don't know how the attachment to this acrylic case is but is there any chance if it would fit a Ducky TKL (US ANSI) model?

Do note all the screws are screwed to the casings. wont be using those screws. the only trouble with Qfr is the removable cable port. Need to find a place for it.

I not have the ducky TKL to try. You can take a picture of the inlets meaning the top, front, side and bottom photo for an estimated gauge.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:53:35
may i know the progress on the case ? :)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Tue, 28 May 2013, 20:58:20
may i know the progress on the case ? :)
im quite curious as well, i want these so bad!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 29 May 2013, 03:52:13
may i know the progress on the case ? :)

You guys will be very happy soon. : p
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 May 2013, 04:11:13
Totally up for a pink one!! ...long as it's hot
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 29 May 2013, 06:16:05
@takaki

did you received already yr phantom plates? would be good to hear if they fit the case.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:19:52
Could you make a black top with the piece between the arrows and cluster above it cut out? Just the top sheet.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:38:42
As in you would just want a single top piece?

Btw the plates has arrived and it fits, uploading pictures has been quite a hassle lately so that has to wait.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 May 2013, 20:42:23
Yes, just a single black top piece.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 29 May 2013, 21:02:22
Definitely can look into it, I'll do up the proper quotes and all in the actual thread.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 30 May 2013, 05:28:24
latest update.

(http://i.imgur.com/g6Auj0d.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 30 May 2013, 05:29:57
are the sides of the cases going to be translucent, or hasn't it been decided yet?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 30 May 2013, 06:31:50
is the pcb or plate fixated in any way or does it just sit in there? I've always wondered about this in these plexi cases..
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:17:05
Will post on the group buy thread eventually, the different colours will have tier levels pricing just like keycaps, trying my best to make it as affordable as possible.

Please don't sacrifice the design and finish/quality of the case by saving a few dollars.  There are examples of Poorly Designed Keyboard Cases which hardly sell.

But the decent finished cases are ALWAYS highly sought after, for years to come.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:25:57
So will it to be too much trouble to have a top piece of acrylic with the entire right side opened up for those who want to use all the switches on their phantoms?


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With the part in read cut out also
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:58:00
So will it to be too much trouble to have a top plate with the entire right side opened up?

AFAIK, there are no plates with this group buy. That plate pictured is a phantom plate from the phantom gb. Otherwise, you would just re-use the stock plate from your tkl board.

If you want a custom plate for a tkl with the hole cutout on the right side for the controller, you can try to find someone selling theirs from the previous universal tkl plate gb. Word on the street is that WFD is doing another limited run of these soon.

ETA: takaki I am excited to see the phantom fits this case. I am also curious as to how well it is supported? Does the case support the plate on all sides? Are there any standoffs with this case or is it only supported by the sides of the plate? Thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 30 May 2013, 07:59:21
So will it to be too much trouble to have a top plate with the entire right side opened up?

AFAIK, there are no plates with this group buy. That plate pictured is a phantom plate from the phantom gb. Otherwise, you would just re-use the stock plate from your tkl board.

If you want a custom plate for a tkl with the hole cutout on the right side for the controller, you can try to find someone selling theirs from the previous universal tkl plate gb. Word on the street is that WFD is doing another limited run of these soon.


My apologies I meant cut out for a phantom plate which I already have! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: whiskytango on Thu, 30 May 2013, 08:05:11

My apologies I meant cut out for a phantom plate which I already have! ;)

Oh lol, I misunderstood. And I am fairly certain that this will be offered (this is what I want too). In fact, I think there is a pic of just such a thing in the OP (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43667.msg896503#msg896503). It was mistakenly called "96 key type" at first but somewhere in this thread is a discussion of how it is supposed to be "92 key type" to reflect the five extra keys.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Mysteric on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:00:43
Will these cases fit an 88 key ISO Filco MJ2?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:35:44
 The top plate is definitely going to be customizable, The finish of the acrylic is not the key issue, it is all about the design. I'll take note to do something really nice instead of really cheap.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:36:04
Will these cases fit an 88 key ISO Filco MJ2?

Definitely will.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Permeability on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:40:02
If this fits a Phantom w/ plate does it mean it will fit a QFR w/ plate?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 30 May 2013, 10:40:28
so 86 keys layout is a definite possibility, am i right ?
(i am sorry i keep asking this question) :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 30 May 2013, 12:02:22
it does fit the QFR with plate.

@hoshi, definitely possible, haven't fabricate the prototype yet.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 30 May 2013, 12:13:21
alright. that sounds good. :D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 01 June 2013, 20:47:39
so excited for this IC! At the rate my round 2 PCB is shipping, I might get this acrylic case sooner!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Mysteric on Sun, 02 June 2013, 05:21:47
Will these cases fit an 88 key ISO Filco MJ2?

Definitely will.

Great. Any info about shipping internationally? I'm also a bit confused regarding colours; I'm not too sure what the colours will look like on the case itself? I'm having a hard time basically visualizing what the colours will look like and which I might be interested in.

EDIT: Is there no way of having the top and bottom white and the middle an opaque color? Like the ones seen here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/acrylic-case-for-filco-tenkeyless-keyboard-t1804-60.html
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 02 June 2013, 06:26:42
Will these cases fit an 88 key ISO Filco MJ2?

Definitely will.

Great. Any info about shipping internationally? I'm also a bit confused regarding colours; I'm not too sure what the colours will look like on the case itself? I'm having a hard time basically visualizing what the colours will look like and which I might be interested in.

EDIT: Is there no way of having the top and bottom white and the middle an opaque color? Like the ones seen here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/acrylic-case-for-filco-tenkeyless-keyboard-t1804-60.html

I think he said very clearly from the start that the acrylic maker only has opaque white, black and clear for the middle though.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom &amp; Filco &amp; QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:11:15
Sucks cause that white and blue is super hot.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: oneproduct on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:56:03
How about counter sinking for the top plate so that the screw doesn't stick up above the surface?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 02 June 2013, 14:09:09
How about counter sinking for the top plate so that the screw doesn't stick up above the surface?

^this
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:46:11
Yeah flush screws would be a huge plus!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 June 2013, 08:41:05
So ready to buy some phatom cases!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: telepete on Tue, 04 June 2013, 19:48:08
I remember when Litster was making his case, one reason he went opaque on the bottom layer was because the solder joints came in contact with the bottom layer. They scratch the hell out of the bottom and it looks real bad. How will this be avoided on this case?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:56:16
the solder joints wouldn't be touching the bottom layer because the plate is elevated via resting on one of the centre acrylic piece, prototype #2 (hopefully final prototype) will be out next week.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:57:05
As for flushed screws, looking into the design and the length of screws available to use with the reduced length required.

Winkeyless design is nearly completed.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Wed, 05 June 2013, 00:58:32
nice. waiting for pictures now. :D
Winkeyless design is nearly completed.

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:05:09
Winkeyless design is nearly completed.

debating if i should pick one of these up as well, because i want to try and get my hands on a phantom. I just have no clue when that would be. hmm...
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: frenchie4111 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 01:07:27
Can't wait! Will definitely pick one up when it comes time.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 05 June 2013, 02:21:51
Still waiting for a reply. : (
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Mysteric on Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:30:50
Will these cases fit an 88 key ISO Filco MJ2?

Definitely will.

Great. Any info about shipping internationally? I'm also a bit confused regarding colours; I'm not too sure what the colours will look like on the case itself? I'm having a hard time basically visualizing what the colours will look like and which I might be interested in.

EDIT: Is there no way of having the top and bottom white and the middle an opaque color? Like the ones seen here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/acrylic-case-for-filco-tenkeyless-keyboard-t1804-60.html

I think he said very clearly from the start that the acrylic maker only has opaque white, black and clear for the middle though.

Guess I'll have to go for the red on the top and bottom and white in the middle then :) Still interested in a quote including shipping to the UK.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 05 June 2013, 22:24:15
The item is about 400grams to 500 grams,
Shipping to UK for 450g: Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)   4-6working days   SGD$16.15   
Quoted taken from http://singpost.com/index.php

Same price for the US. Will get the final weight up when everything is completed.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Mysteric on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:52:43
Alright that's a great price. Was wondering if you had more details about the rubber feet / laser engraving?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom &amp; Filco &amp; QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 14:42:33
Do they have grey acrylic? I wonder how that would look with some of the other transparent colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:15:47
how much would the shipping costs change if you ordered 2 cases?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:28:38
how much would the shipping costs change if you ordered 2 cases?

I am sure he posted this, mentioned about the item weight, and gave a site as well.

The item is about 400grams to 500 grams,
Shipping to UK for 450g: Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)   4-6working days   SGD$16.15   
Quoted taken from http://singpost.com/index.php

Same price for the US. Will get the final weight up when everything is completed.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Windos on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:37:00
Welp, that matte toxic made me fall in love and fill out the IC form. That is one sexy colour.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:44:41
I am sure he posted this, mentioned about the item weight, and gave a site as well.
wow, i guess i really just read that post wrong :x thanks
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Mon, 10 June 2013, 23:50:06
so just heads up, do you guys think that having a hole at the bottom is good or is it better to cover up the hole with another layer. I'm worried that the USB won't be able to fit in the casing if there is no cut out.

prototype #2 is out, pictures taken by manufacturer.
(http://i.imgur.com/FLmrpEH.jpg?1)
Top 87 keys with no LED holes.
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZqoaMK.jpg?1)

definitely have to do another 10mm layer to fit the PCB for the detachable USB port for CM QFR.

Flushed screw holes are not recommended as there would not be anything to hold the top layer and the other layers together.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 11 June 2013, 02:00:06
This looks amazing!

We appreciate your work and effort!
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 11 June 2013, 04:16:27
Do you have an oppurtunity to try a ducky pcb inside this case?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: tom88jerry on Tue, 11 June 2013, 06:41:10
It looks very awesome  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: bazemk1979 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 12:59:53
Filco don't need that cut out but QFR will need it since the USB plug is around that area, maeby you should have bottom plate for Filco and QFR as separate when ordered. Also do the cutout hole needs to be that wide?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: UniClown on Tue, 11 June 2013, 14:18:04
I would much prefer an extra layer to cover the cutout. I do not want my case open to liquid, dust, or anything else. However, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 16:31:40
I would much prefer an extra layer to cover the cutout. I do not want my case open to liquid, dust, or anything else. However, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.

True, liquid is another problem.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: reverkiller on Wed, 12 June 2013, 08:34:50
As if this product needed anymore interest - I'm really excited about the look of this, and would take one.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:33:56
I would much prefer an extra layer to cover the cutout. I do not want my case open to liquid, dust, or anything else. However, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.

Highly doubt liquid is a problem because the case is elevated from the desk with the two 10mm feets. Anyway, I've decided to make the cover up and feets optional.

Finalised on the design, will be creating the Group buy thread soon.

Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:04:41
I would much prefer an extra layer to cover the cutout. I do not want my case open to liquid, dust, or anything else. However, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit.

Highly doubt liquid is a problem because the case is elevated from the desk with the two 10mm feets. Anyway, I've decided to make the cover up and feets optional.

Finalised on the design, will be creating the Group buy thread soon.



Oh man here we go. Lets talk money!! Whats the final cost boss? (I know I know wait for GB thread.)
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:17:07
will you be updating pictures of all the prototype ?   ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Fri, 14 June 2013, 00:11:54
I will create a separate log for the whole process of coming out with this at making stuff together
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: frenchie4111 on Sat, 15 June 2013, 15:50:34
I am very very excited for this. Let's get this ball rolling.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Mon, 17 June 2013, 03:33:38
Currently I have a suggestion to do tap and die for the screws instead of having a nut at the back to secure the acrylic sheets. what do you guys think ?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 17 June 2013, 03:48:45
Would a tap and die help make it more compact?
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Mon, 17 June 2013, 03:58:03
Are you looking for a minimalistic kind of casing or something that is as tall as the current filco/QFR casing? The thickness/compactness of the casing affects the typing feel/experience.

The main aim for the tap and die is to take the nuts out of the casing so everything is flushed at the bottom instead of having nuts sticking out. Rubber feets will be included to avoid having the base come into contact with the table. This address to scratching and possibly water issues, I love my table and my keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 17 June 2013, 04:48:54
Ahhh I see, and yeah I personally do love the hight and angle of the full filco case (feet up) so something like that would be great. But yeah tap and die sounds all kinda of better, as I do like my desk lol
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: Rayne on Mon, 17 June 2013, 05:07:00
yeah tha tap and die sounds like a great idea
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: UniClown on Mon, 17 June 2013, 13:42:14
yeah tha tap and die sounds like a great idea

This. I would much prefer a flush bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: whiskytango on Mon, 17 June 2013, 15:18:57
are we talking about cutting threads into the acrylic for the screw to screw into from the top? Don't you think this would strip out rather easily?

Have you considered a binding post (also called Chicago screw) type fastener? Here is an example (http://www.screwpost.com/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=e7eb96e81f8d4531a508a5f3591cf676)

Edit: Steel ones (http://www.screwpost.com/index.php?cPath=38) would be even better. The heads of the screw and post still look to be pretty low profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Acrylic Case for Phantom & Filco & QFR (Confirmed!!)
Post by: takaki on Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:30:32
I'll go down to the screw factory outlet tomorrow to take a look at the binding post type of fastener and compare it to the nut design.