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Title: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Carter on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:17:42
Thoughts?


(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)

Japanese Topre switches w/ MX compatible stems. -

TKL body low profile body

Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: swill on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:21:17
I am guessing these are the MX compatible Topre stems?  Do you own these?  Do you sell these?  :)
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: tgujay on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:23:35
Thoughts?


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)


I'm 12 and what is this?
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:24:51
More info. Less tease, please. :P
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:25:05
Are we looking at the Topre/MX hybrid looking stems or the mouse?

- Mouse reminds me of a Deathadder with some different buttons, the logo is enormous

- The stem looks cool but it looks like its a super tight fit if you were to put an MX cap onto it. Really great idea though. I'd love to see like a CCnG or something like that on a Topre board just for the sheer coolness factor. I think there were issues in the past when people tried to make adapters, especially for Alps to MX, but the material proved to be too brittle.
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: Carter on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:27:04
The switch you are looking @ are true topre switches with MX compatibility. Made in Japan..

Mouse is also new.
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:28:29
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: frvrngn on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:28:48
Need more info!  Availability?  Release date? 
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:29:16
(http://i.imgur.com/OCLeBNM.gif)

I'm very conflicted about this. First, I like MX because you can swap keys and stuff. But then I like Topre because it feels nice. And it's nice to finally be able to settle. What will this do to me...? Perhaps I'll be able to hold off knowing that it's still no HHKB. But then, can the thing be taken apart and the stems be dropped into a HHKB? Would I want to do that? Thick ABS on a HHKB? D:
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:30:05
The switch you are looking @ are true topre switches with MX compatibility. Made in Japan..

****...
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:30:36
The switch you are looking @ are true topre switches with MX compatibility. Made in Japan..

That's awesome, nice work!

Mouse is also new.

I got my hands on a Spawn and I'm really liking it. Hoping this new mouse is just as good. Deathadder is by no means a bad thing, I really liked the shape of that mouse, it was just too big for my hands. :D
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:30:45


I'm very conflicted about this. First, I like MX because you can swap keys and stuff. But then I like Topre because it feels nice. And it's nice to finally be able to settle. What will this do to me...? Perhaps I'll be able to hold off knowing that it's still no HHKB. But then, can the thing be taken apart and the stems be dropped into a HHKB? Would I want to do that? Thick ABS on a HHKB? D:

GMK double shot ABS on a HHKB :o

ps: carter you know I love buying engineering samples  :p
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: tipo33 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:32:23
Are there any issues with key travel?  Propour sizing?  If not, I would be interested for sure. 

Dreaming about my HHKB with my English/Russian set :D
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:37:18
Omg this looks interesting.  Does CM have something up their sleeve here?
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: Binge on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:37:42
mmmm I very much like this development... topre keycaps are very hard to cast without issue.
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:37:57
So let's see some stabilizer shots....including space bar!!
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: dante on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:46:31
How about using Topre switches for the mouse buttons?
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: Defying on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:56:00
nonononoONONONONONONNONNONNOOOOOOOOOO

pls don't do this to me carter
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:07:02
Soon the possibilities will be endless....I can hear wallets crying already.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: JPG on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:11:32
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:20:00
Are there any issues with key travel?  Propour sizing?  If not, I would be interested for sure. 

Dreaming about my HHKB with my English/Russian set :D

That's brilliant.

Coolermaster needs to make this happen!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:20:46
But what about the HHKB spacebar size :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:44:36
Well originally lack of customization was a big turn off for me, but now I may just have to get a Topre board in the near future. Maybe.
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:45:23
Do these stems also make the plastic rattle on the upstroke that haunts regular Topre switches? If so, I wonder if these stems will be capable of the dental mod..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:46:35
Do these stems also make the plastic rattle on the upstroke that haunts regular Topre switches? If so, I wonder if these stems will be capable of the dental mod..

They 'should' be dental band mod compatible...
Title: Re: Going to just leave this here.....
Post by: deazncy on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:50:55
The switch you are looking @ are true topre switches with MX compatibility. Made in Japan..

Mouse is also new.

Whatttttttttt
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 01 November 2013, 13:56:15
GMK double shot ABS on a HHKB :o

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/want.gif) (http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/want.gif)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:00:27
If Coolermaster does decide to create a Topre line of keyboards with these MX-compatible switches, PLEASE OFFER THE OPTION TO BUY A BARE KEYBOARD WITHOUT KEYCAPS.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:01:51
If Coolermaster does decide to create a Topre line of keyboards with these MX-compatible switches, PLEASE OFFER THE OPTION TO BUY A BARE KEYBOARD WITHOUT KEYCAPS.

OR put decent key caps on it to start with AND use normal sized key spacing....
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:12:26
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:16:04
Yeah, I'm curious about whether it'd have odd mod sizes (like the TK/Pro lines), and how the stabilizers work.

Anyone else see anything interesting about the pic?.. It looks like it has blank black Cherry profile keys. Not sure how many of those I've seen outside of the DAS II POMs.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:16:55
Is this an adapter or something the manufacturers modded into the topre switches?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:17:54
Well played Carter. Price?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: JPG on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:21:50
Is is more stable than stock cherry switches?

Also, the mice looks nice, is it right handed or ambidextrous? Seems to have a familiar shape that I like.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:29:13
Also, weight on these? Say 55g.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:33:49
Guys, is it just me or is that a QFR in Carter's pic? Either way, I'm excited.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:36:48
Maybe  the QFR dressed up as a topre board for halloween! ;)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:37:40
Guys, is it just me or is that a QFR in Carter's pic? Either way, I'm excited.

It's definitely not any Topre board I've seen before.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dante on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:40:05
I would like to see EK's response to this.

(http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ed/200x200px-ZC-ededb83f_michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:43:07
I would like to see EK's response to this.

(http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ed/200x200px-ZC-ededb83f_michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif) (http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ed/200x200px-ZC-ededb83f_michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif)

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:44:34
I also wonder if it's simultaneously compatible with Topre keycaps - maybe their stems would just cover the cruciform, but still be able to snap on like they do on HHKBs/RFs.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:46:18
Is is more stable than stock cherry switches?

Also, the mice looks nice, is it right handed or ambidextrous? Seems to have a familiar shape that I like.

It's based on Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0, so, yeah, right handed and very familiar :)

From what I've heard from Carter there's also another model based on MS 1.1, but that one's been modified a bit too.  :thumb:

Probably we'll all see new and nice things on CES 2014  :))
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:00:07
it's like I just heard a million wallets scream out in pain, and were silenced instantly
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Glod on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:05:27
****, could someone design replacement plunger/sliders that do this for HHKB, RF, etc?, i mean I've taken apart my HHKB before, they are just slippery plastic plungers. though keys with stabilizers would be a considerable issue so maybe i should keep my thoughts to myself.

....... nice keyboard though!. now make an ergo board like this so i can throw away all my keyboards (inb4tp)

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Glenn315 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:20:28
Looks good.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:30:48
Wow....75 guest viewing this page....
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:31:52
I am interested.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:31:55
Carter is also in here looking...

And not answering! D:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:35:02
Carter is also in here looking...

And not answering! D:

He just waiting to tell us they don't like it so they aren't going to make any but that he is going to sell me that one....;)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:42:41
Wow....75 guest viewing this page....

This thread is linked to reddit. That explains it.

Carter is not responding because he wants to milk as much hype as possible...Well done, Carter. Well Done.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:45:02
This thread should only be visible to registered users muahahahaha :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: TheFlyingRaccoon on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:46:41
I can use the Nostalgia keyset on my HHKB!  :eek: I NEED THIS
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:51:25
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 01 November 2013, 15:53:19
Welp. Looks like I'll have to break down and buy a Topre after all...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:05:11
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

1000x times this....dolch HHKB!

still want to see stabilizer setup!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:07:43
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

...starting to regret selling off my GMK Dolch. THANKS MKAWA
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:08:28
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

...starting to regret selling off my GMK Dolch. THANKS MKAWA

It's halfway across the world now!!

On topic here....so what's next backlighting these bad boys??
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:15:41
(http://i.imgflip.com/4jc6b.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:16:16
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:17:15
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:17:31
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

...starting to regret selling off my GMK Dolch. THANKS MKAWA

It's halfway across the world now!!

On topic here....so what's next backlighting these bad boys??

Well...  Do not doubt anything :rolleyes:

[15/07/2013 00:07:53] wetto: Topre's mad expensive
[15/07/2013 00:08:03] wetto: and I don't even think a backlit Topre is possible
[15/07/2013 00:08:08] wetto: is it?
[15/07/2013 00:09:45] Carter Salley: not easily
[15/07/2013 00:09:49] Carter Salley: im still working on it
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:18:51
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

...starting to regret selling off my GMK Dolch. THANKS MKAWA

It's halfway across the world now!!

On topic here....so what's next backlighting these bad boys??

Well...  Do not doubt anything ::)

[15/07/2013 00:07:53] wetto: Topre's mad expensive
[15/07/2013 00:08:03] wetto: and I don't even think a backlit Topre is possible
[15/07/2013 00:08:08] wetto: is it?
[15/07/2013 00:09:45] Carter Salley: not easily
[15/07/2013 00:09:49] Carter Salley: im still working on it

Nothing worth doing is easy!!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:20:28
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!

I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:21:49
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

...starting to regret selling off my GMK Dolch. THANKS MKAWA

It's halfway across the world now!!

On topic here....so what's next backlighting these bad boys??

Well...  Do not doubt anything ::)

[15/07/2013 00:07:53] wetto: Topre's mad expensive
[15/07/2013 00:08:03] wetto: and I don't even think a backlit Topre is possible
[15/07/2013 00:08:08] wetto: is it?
[15/07/2013 00:09:45] Carter Salley: not easily
[15/07/2013 00:09:49] Carter Salley: im still working on it

Nothing worth doing is easy!!

(Attachment Link)

Transparent casing, just like Matias switches would be a easy way to do it, plus the backlit keycaps are already done and available (unlike Matias).

But then, Topre needs to make a new variation of their switch, I guess :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:21:49
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!

Are we still not realizing that we're being raped by the hype surrounding mechanical keyboards?

These things are bottom barrel in terms of cost to produce...  its a keyboard... in 2013 !!!!!

The prices are high due to popularity...

Remember Yomega Yo-Yos...  and Pokemon cards?


This is just a more Adult Version...(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/c8908497.gif)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:25:35
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!

Are we still not realizing that we're being raped by the hype surrounding mechanical keyboards?

These things are bottom barrel in terms of cost to produce...  its a keyboard... in 2013 !!!!!

The prices are high due to popularity...

Remember Yomega Yo-Yos...  and Pokemon cards?


This is just a more Adult Version...
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/c8908497.gif)



You can't compare collectables like that in terms of production cost vs value. What did an Action Comics #1 cost to print? Your comparing cremini's and truffle's.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:27:42
Now have somebody make programmable hhkb pro 3!!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:28:51
Opened this thread...saw the pic...a little pee slipped out...no lie.  Brb, changing underwear.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:31:57
Now have somebody make programmable hhkb pro 3!!!

full titanium case
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:32:31
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!

I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?


Type heaven full size board @ $150
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:55:37
Geekhack Episode IV
Wallethack strikes back
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:59:42
I mean IMSTO will be cool but... the rest is a bunch of qwerty crap.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:01:28
I mean IMSTO will be cool but... the rest is a bunch of qwerty crap.

cherry doubleshots FTW :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:05:47
The brain police are about to shut this forum down.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:08:55
And here I was thinking about selling my Klaxon and CCnG sets. Did they just swap out the plungers? Is it possible that Cooler Master brand has become even better? Where in the world is Carmen SanDiego?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:11:31
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:15:22
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.

I think it's just his realforce and a bit of modding.

Or even just clever photoshop and he's ****ing with us.

I highly doubt anything will come of this.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:25:28
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.

I think it's just his realforce and a bit of modding.

Or even just clever photoshop and he's ****ing with us.

I highly doubt anything will come of this.

Lol...if Carter is pranking us I will cry myself to bed.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:29:47
If this is anything other than a production run of HHKB Pro 3 with Dolch keycaps I will cry myself to bed.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:33:28
if Carter is pranking us I will cry myself to bed.

better put down that plastic mattress pad first
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:35:35
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.

I think it's just his realforce and a bit of modding.

Or even just clever photoshop and he's ****ing with us.

I highly doubt anything will come of this.

Lol...if Carter is pranking us I will cry myself to bed.

Carter has been planning this for a long while, it's no prank.

[11/06/2013 20:39:30] Carter Salley: but too early to share
[11/06/2013 20:39:41] Carter Salley: you will see soon
[11/06/2013 20:39:53] Carter Salley: maybe custom topre....
[11/06/2013 20:40:04] wetto: well, Topre is getting cheaper
[11/06/2013 20:40:14] wetto: but it would be weird to see a CM Storm Topre keyboard, hahahah
[11/06/2013 20:40:22] wetto: and I don't even think they're designed for backlight
[11/06/2013 20:40:32] Carter Salley: maybe i am desiging with them
[11/06/2013 20:40:41] Carter Salley: maybe they will even be able to use cherry keycap
[11/06/2013 20:40:45] Carter Salley: anyway
[11/06/2013 20:40:48] Carter Salley: i have shared to much
[11/06/2013 20:40:51] Carter Salley: need to go to a meeting
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:42:06
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.

I think it's just his realforce and a bit of modding.

Or even just clever photoshop and he's ****ing with us.

I highly doubt anything will come of this.

Lol...if Carter is pranking us I will cry myself to bed.

Carter has been planning this for a long while, it's no prank.

[11/06/2013 20:39:30] Carter Salley: but too early to share
[11/06/2013 20:39:41] Carter Salley: you will see soon
[11/06/2013 20:39:53] Carter Salley: maybe custom topre....
[11/06/2013 20:40:04] wetto: well, Topre is getting cheaper
[11/06/2013 20:40:14] wetto: but it would be weird to see a CM Storm Topre keyboard, hahahah
[11/06/2013 20:40:22] wetto: and I don't even think they're designed for backlight
[11/06/2013 20:40:32] Carter Salley: maybe i am desiging with them
[11/06/2013 20:40:41] Carter Salley: maybe they will even be able to use cherry keycap
[11/06/2013 20:40:45] Carter Salley: anyway
[11/06/2013 20:40:48] Carter Salley: i have shared to much
[11/06/2013 20:40:51] Carter Salley: need to go to a meeting

... This image may have deeper meaning then.

(http://i.imgur.com/L7QGfiQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:47:28
This almost seems like an April Fools joke... in November.

Carter, so you were able to pull strings to get license to make topre switches? Unlike cherry switches were you can just buy it and build a keyboard, I don't believe this is possible with Topre unless they grant you permission.

I think it's just his realforce and a bit of modding.

Or even just clever photoshop and he's ****ing with us.

I highly doubt anything will come of this.

Lol...if Carter is pranking us I will cry myself to bed.

Carter has been planning this for a long while, it's no prank.

[11/06/2013 20:39:30] Carter Salley: but too early to share
[11/06/2013 20:39:41] Carter Salley: you will see soon
[11/06/2013 20:39:53] Carter Salley: maybe custom topre....
[11/06/2013 20:40:04] wetto: well, Topre is getting cheaper
[11/06/2013 20:40:14] wetto: but it would be weird to see a CM Storm Topre keyboard, hahahah
[11/06/2013 20:40:22] wetto: and I don't even think they're designed for backlight
[11/06/2013 20:40:32] Carter Salley: maybe i am desiging with them
[11/06/2013 20:40:41] Carter Salley: maybe they will even be able to use cherry keycap
[11/06/2013 20:40:45] Carter Salley: anyway
[11/06/2013 20:40:48] Carter Salley: i have shared to much
[11/06/2013 20:40:51] Carter Salley: need to go to a meeting

... This image may have deeper meaning then.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/L7QGfiQ.jpg)


Hahahahahahahaha! Hadn't seen that picture yet!  :))

Anyways, that's a backlit CM Quick Fire Rapid, Cooler Master has been planning it for quite some time. All that I know about it is that it ain't Costar (although the modifiers have the same size). And well, evaluating all I've heard from Carter and Matias about Costar, it's no wonder...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 17:57:16
Is costar bad?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Fri, 01 November 2013, 18:01:23
Is costar bad?

Not when they do a good job. When they choose a good factory they're one of the best choices out there and they use a Taiwanese keycap supplier that does some very nice ABS keycaps.

But... The problem is, that they're just a middle-man, sometimes they may choose a beginner factory (as what happened with a previous Matias keyboard) and then the problems arise. Bad soldering and using wrong keycaps (as what happened with 130 units of the CM Quick Fire Stealth over here in Brazil, check the Enter key: http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6475/iuwn.jpg) isn't really all that rare with Costar, although it must be noted that the quality varies greatly between the factories that are used for each Brand.

The factory used to make FILCO keyboards is actually top-notch and thus Costar surely isn't bad for them.

But most of all, they're slow at doing things, don't care if they do errors and are very expensive. I know that's something they could work and fix as to avoid losing clients, but companies just can't wait for that to happen, if it ever will.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Michael on Fri, 01 November 2013, 19:31:06
stem




huehuehueh what u did there. I see it.




Also - yes, I will take some of these.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:09:05
Id rather some topre caps then having to painstakingly switch out each stem just to change keycaps
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 01 November 2013, 21:00:00
unless these hybrid boards wind up costing $300+ then ya know, same 'ol Topre.

I think it's time for a $55 topre board (after rebate) from newegg!!

Are we still not realizing that we're being raped by the hype surrounding mechanical keyboards?

These things are bottom barrel in terms of cost to produce...  its a keyboard... in 2013 !!!!!

The prices are high due to popularity...

Remember Yomega Yo-Yos...  and Pokemon cards?


This is just a more Adult Version...
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/c8908497.gif)



You can't compare collectables like that in terms of production cost vs value. What did an Action Comics #1 cost to print? Your comparing cremini's and truffle's.

mass produced keyboard AT THIS TIME is not a collectable... we're not dealing in collectable markets.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 01 November 2013, 21:18:01
Must I indulge in some Topre? D: please be reasonably priced  :-X
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Martyr on Fri, 01 November 2013, 21:28:10
Will be interesting to see how it's priced. If it's affordable I will definitely pick one up.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 01 November 2013, 22:35:22
The case is new-looking, definitely not the same QFR case.

Also the keycaps are sitting a little too high.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 01 November 2013, 23:05:22
Shieeettt, this may make me rethink buying a ergodox.

But gawd I hate TKL layouts. Will you have this in a 60%, 75%, or full size layout?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:14:55
if the pictures were not enough for some reason, i can 100% confirm that this is not in any way a prank. i cannot confirm or deny whether this is the coolest thing that CM Storm has coming though.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:25:52
^ Man, spill the beans already.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:33:18
if the pictures were not enough for some reason, i can 100% confirm that this is not in any way a prank. i cannot confirm or deny whether this is the coolest thing that CM Storm has coming though.

I can confirm that it is.

Source:
More
TOPRE DOLCH FUUUUARK
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:44:53
Shieeettt, this may make me rethink buying a ergodox.

But gawd I hate TKL layouts. Will you have this in a 60%, 75%, or full size layout?

TKL is the smallest they've gone, so I really wouldn't be planning on something smaller; but it WOULD be awesome!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Sat, 02 November 2013, 01:02:22
Shieeettt, this may make me rethink buying a ergodox.

But gawd I hate TKL layouts. Will you have this in a 60%, 75%, or full size layout?

TKL is the smallest they've gone, so I really wouldn't be planning on something smaller; but it WOULD be awesome!
How did you know that?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 02 November 2013, 01:08:43
TKL is the smallest they've gone, so I really wouldn't be planning on something smaller; but it WOULD be awesome!

FC660C is smaller, unless by "they" you meant coolermaster, which only certain people can confirm.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: RickyJ on Sat, 02 November 2013, 01:49:07
This might make me use a TKL board again. :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 02:01:35
TKL is the smallest they've gone, so I really wouldn't be planning on something smaller; but it WOULD be awesome!

FC660C is smaller, unless by "they" you meant coolermaster, which only certain people can confirm.

meant CM :)  and for general public sale
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Sat, 02 November 2013, 02:24:24
I would like to see EK's response to this.

Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ed/200x200px-ZC-ededb83f_michael-jackson-thriller-eating-popcorn-animated.gif)


And ja rule. We need to ask what ja rule makes of this.


Ek lower price on hhkb plsssss
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Michael on Sat, 02 November 2013, 02:28:13


And ja rule. We need to ask what ja rule makes of this.


Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Sat, 02 November 2013, 03:01:03
Bromie you make me happy because you get half of the dumb ass references of the lame jokes I make.

Stay awesome.

No but srsly ek cheaper hhkb pls :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Michael on Sat, 02 November 2013, 03:12:59
Bromie you make me happy because you get half of the dumb ass references of the lame jokes I make.

Stay awesome.

No but srsly ek cheaper hhkb pls :(


 :thumb:


But yeah, EK has lowered the prices on the Type-S. I think it used to be 450? So who knows. Might just see a slightly lower regular HHKB Pro2
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: sprit on Sat, 02 November 2013, 07:15:58
Good Job!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:15:39
And the next step from CM making MX compatible Torpe switches would be individual MX compatible Topre switch modules for custom layouts.  That would make me want to build a topre board
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Sat, 02 November 2013, 08:52:51
And the next step from CM making MX compatible Torpe switches would be individual MX compatible Topre switch modules for custom layouts.  That would make me want to build a topre board

Wow, i would really love to see this
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: salmo on Sat, 02 November 2013, 09:14:44
(http://i.imgur.com/auiI8.gif)

I feel myself getting poorer already.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Matias on Sat, 02 November 2013, 12:36:19
Thoughts?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)


Good call on the Cherry stems.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 02 November 2013, 13:08:36
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?

Exactly my thoughts when I read the headline.

Would be awesome to get the Topre QFR stealth!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 16:50:55
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?

Exactly my thoughts when I read the headline.

Would be awesome to get the Topre QFR stealth!!

As long as they call it the CM Storm Trooper!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Sat, 02 November 2013, 16:56:11
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?

Exactly my thoughts when I read the headline.

Would be awesome to get the Topre QFR stealth!!

As long as they call it the CM Storm Trooper!

But that's already the name of a case!
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/chassis/trooper/

Now, CM Storm Toopre seems to be available  :p
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 02 November 2013, 18:25:54
I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?

One just sold on eBay for $40.


I notice two things that I haven't seen pointed out yet:
1: Keycaps appear to be cherry profile. I can't tell the plastic for sure, but I suspect PBT (or possibly POM).
2: The left button on the mouse shows evidence of some wear / use , which means they have had the sample in hand (hah!) for a while and they will likely be releasing soon. (Either that, or the finish is wearing out quickly.)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Michael on Sat, 02 November 2013, 18:31:32
Where are you seeing these CM topre boards?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dante on Sat, 02 November 2013, 18:31:37
1: Keycaps appear to be cherry profile. I can't tell the plastic for sure, but I suspect PBT (or possibly POM).

Boner alert!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:04:28
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?

Exactly my thoughts when I read the headline.

Would be awesome to get the Topre QFR stealth!!

As long as they call it the CM Storm Trooper!

But that's already the name of a case!
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/chassis/trooper/

Now, CM Storm Toopre seems to be available  :p

CM Storm Thorpe?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:07:53
So where did this project stem from?

CM Storm Topre board incoming?

Exactly my thoughts when I read the headline.

Would be awesome to get the Topre QFR stealth!!

As long as they call it the CM Storm Trooper!
1
But that's already the name of a case!
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/chassis/trooper/

Now, CM Storm Toopre seems to be available  :p

CM Storm Thorpe?

+1 for teh lulz.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:09:38
Must buy if it does come out.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kelske on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:40:03
Very, goddamn, cool.
Title: _
Post by: moogle on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:45:34
_
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 November 2013, 19:48:16
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 20:34:34
I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?

One just sold on eBay for $40.

:eek: where?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dante on Sat, 02 November 2013, 20:40:01
I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?

One just sold on eBay for $40.

:eek: where?

Probably some jealous gh'ers significant other.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:03:48
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.

I'm very keen for this.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:09:02
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.

Stabilizers.... and.... space bar isn't it odd size? We'd need a hhkb kit in all the MX group buys!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:09:48
I would maybe buy 60% of this in the far future
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:30:02
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.

Stabilizers.... and.... space bar isn't it odd size? We'd need a hhkb kit in all the MX group buys!

Ha!  Another option!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Caaaarrrt on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:44:53
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.

Stabilizers.... and.... space bar isn't it odd size? We'd need a hhkb kit in all the MX group buys!

If they were going to the trouble of making MX compatible topre switches I don't that that making MX compatible stabiliser inserts is much of a stretch. HHKB does have a 6 unit space bar I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 03 November 2013, 00:44:48
I hadn't checked this thread as I thought it was another "I wish we would have this" thread, but boy was I wrong.

Highly commendable work by CM, even if it doesn't reap fruit, the fact they'd go and try this itself.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ctbear on Sun, 03 November 2013, 01:32:29
Me wants. CCnG on my HHKB  :-*
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 03 November 2013, 03:05:49
Now if only HHKB was backwards-modifiable to this, we could finally have custom keycaps for HHKB in a range of colours and styles.

Stabilizers.... and.... space bar isn't it odd size? We'd need a hhkb kit in all the MX group buys!

If they were going to the trouble of making MX compatible topre switches I don't that that making MX compatible stabiliser inserts is much of a stretch. HHKB does have a 6 unit space bar I'm pretty sure.

I don't doubt they made new stabilizers but retrofitting into a hhkb could be difficult depending on how.

We need moar pics of this magic!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Alessandro on Sun, 03 November 2013, 05:36:02
I just came a little.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: BlueWhale on Sun, 03 November 2013, 16:53:50
this is bad ass board.. can't wait.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Novus on Sun, 03 November 2013, 18:43:30
I wanna know what that mouse is   >:D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:06:19
I wanna know what that mouse is   >:D

there was a mouse?  :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 19:29:59
I wanna know what that mouse is   >:D

there was a mouse?  :P

I went back and looked again - hey yeah, there IS a mouse!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Halbyrd on Mon, 04 November 2013, 14:50:55
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Filco FC660C, but now I'm not so sure; Topres with Cherry MX stems would be quite an attractive option. Is this mystery board likely to show up anytime soon (CES 2014-ish, maybe)?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 15:50:39
CARTER we need more info
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 15:51:29
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Filco FC660C, but now I'm not so sure; Topres with Cherry MX stems would be quite an attractive option. Is this mystery board likely to show up anytime soon (CES 2014-ish, maybe)?

No-one knows what it feels like yet.  It might not have that Topre thock.

But if it does feel the same, then the main benefit is custom keycaps!  Assuming it has a standard layout.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 04 November 2013, 15:53:22
I want dolch HHKB, make it happen ;DD
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:43:40
He's said to much already. They've imprisoned him with only Dell rubber dome keyboards to type with!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Novus on Mon, 04 November 2013, 17:04:47
Assemble Strike Team 6.
Our mission is to infiltrate the dome compound and extract the informant.
From there, we are to secure any prototypes devices on site.
We'll need to exercise extreme caution.
In the unlikely event that we are unable to safety extract the informant ... all right screw this. Stop teasing us and give us what we want :) oh and the mouse too.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Halbyrd on Tue, 05 November 2013, 08:11:56
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Filco FC660C, but now I'm not so sure; Topres with Cherry MX stems would be quite an attractive option. Is this mystery board likely to show up anytime soon (CES 2014-ish, maybe)?

No-one knows what it feels like yet.  It might not have that Topre thock.

But if it does feel the same, then the main benefit is custom keycaps!  Assuming it has a standard layout.

I can't see them going to all that trouble with Topre switches just to make them feel like Cherrys.

Also, custom keycaps are a big deal for me, as I spend a lot of time swapping between QWERTY and Dvorak. Being able to commission a custom set of dual-label keycaps from WASD and then put them on a Topre board would be pretty much ideal.

Topre switches on a WASDv2 would be even better, but I'll take what I can get!

On that note, are we going to see any fun extras on the controller like in the WASDv2 (QWERTY/Dvorak swap, Ctrl/CapsLock swap, Alt/Super swap for the Mac crowd, &c.)?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:46:23
I'd definitely buy one, maybe even a couple. What is the cheapest Topre board?

One just sold on eBay for $40.

:eek: where?

Probably some jealous gh'ers significant other.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131029109991
$45 shipped, not bad for an all-metal cased topre.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: digi on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:48:49
EK isn't gonna like this, haha. I think it's great.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 05 November 2013, 13:49:39
DV, are those a certain known weight, i.e. 55g? It'd be nice to grab one of those for some cool caps and the rubber domes.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Wed, 06 November 2013, 03:53:09
Pretty keen. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Sat, 09 November 2013, 10:38:06
Shieeettt, this may make me rethink buying a ergodox.

But gawd I hate TKL layouts. Will you have this in a 60%, 75%, or full size layout?

TKL is the smallest they've gone, so I really wouldn't be planning on something smaller; but it WOULD be awesome!

Remember the thread about making a gaming ergo board? ErgoDox with Topre switches with Cherry MX stems!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 09 November 2013, 10:56:28
I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Filco FC660C, but now I'm not so sure; Topres with Cherry MX stems would be quite an attractive option. Is this mystery board likely to show up anytime soon (CES 2014-ish, maybe)?

No-one knows what it feels like yet.  It might not have that Topre thock.

But if it does feel the same, then the main benefit is custom keycaps!  Assuming it has a standard layout.

To me, it wouldn't make much sense if CM made these without replicating every aspect of an original Topre switch. I'm excited because I know they will make it identical, if they haven't already done so.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Alessandro on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:03:59
I've been told the price for these is going to be about Ł120 for a TKL and Ł150 for a fullsize. Things are looking good!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: swill on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:06:39
Didn't I see a thread on here where someone 3d printed mx compatible stem inserts for stock topre switches?  I will have to go looking for it when I don't have a baby in my arms.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:08:19
I've been told the price for these is going to be about Ł120 for a TKL and Ł150 for a fullsize. Things are looking good!

Source?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Alessandro on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:16:01
I've been told the price for these is going to be about Ł120 for a TKL and Ł150 for a fullsize. Things are looking good!

Source?

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3447693&postcount=16711
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 09 November 2013, 11:39:56
I've been told the price for these is going to be about Ł120 for a TKL and Ł150 for a fullsize. Things are looking good!

Source?

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3447693&postcount=16711

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/288/6/9/amazed_face_by_rober_raik-d4cw1px.png)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 17:26:06
Let's just hope that they have a standard bottom row, to make swapping keycaps that much easier.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Sun, 10 November 2013, 15:34:04
Let's just hope that they have a standard bottom row, to make swapping keycaps that much easier.

T dat.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: calavera on Sun, 10 November 2013, 16:53:56
I might have to buy another topre board just for this.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:39:42
I might have to buy another topre board just for this.

That's the spirit!

Although really, why are we interested in this?

So that we can put more custom keycaps on a Topre board?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 10 November 2013, 22:58:42
I might have to buy another topre board just for this.

That's the spirit!

Although really, why are we interested in this?

So that we can put more custom keycaps on a Topre board?

Yes. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who wants to put a Dolch set on a Topre keyboard.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Alessandro on Mon, 11 November 2013, 08:06:05
I'm happy that we can finally get a PBT spacebar on Topre boards!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 11 November 2013, 08:10:13
Damn you sir, now you've alleviated the problem of keycaps on thorpe boards I'm going to need to invest in one!

Now stop teasing and give us some solid info :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:33:27
Gonna buy a TKL model most definitely :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: scruffles on Mon, 11 November 2013, 22:44:23
do want.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 11 November 2013, 22:53:52
Looking at the picture in OP, I wonder if this is just a modified QFR with an aluminum plate and the hybrid switches... It's going to be interesting to find out how they've actually done this.

(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 11 November 2013, 22:56:36
Looking at the picture in OP, I wonder if this is just a modified QFR with an aluminum plate and the hybrid switches... It's going to be interesting to find out how they've actually done this.

More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)

Well the top piece isn't the same as the QFRs, the side parts/wall are too wide.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 11 November 2013, 22:58:18
That mouse really makes me want to wait until I buy my next mouse.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 11 November 2013, 23:07:50
Looking at the picture in OP, I wonder if this is just a modified QFR with an aluminum plate and the hybrid switches... It's going to be interesting to find out how they've actually done this.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lSRg709.jpg)


If it was, that would bode well for a standard layout.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:43:03
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3447693&postcount=16711

I'm almost positive that will not be the real price. Once Cooler Master gets word that nubbinator sold a CC for $30, they will start selling these for $30.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 12 November 2013, 18:21:14
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3447693&postcount=16711

I'm almost positive that will not be the real price. Once Cooler Master gets word that nubbinator sold a CC for $30, they will start selling these for $30.

When did nubbs sell a CC for $30?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sniping on Tue, 12 November 2013, 20:34:37
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3447693&postcount=16711

I'm almost positive that will not be the real price. Once Cooler Master gets word that nubbinator sold a CC for $30, they will start selling these for $30.

When did nubbs sell a CC for $30?

I think it was that $30 HO competition that he made
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: berrymxblue on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:06:16
Good to see cm seems to stay a step ahead other companies by listening to the community.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:08:18
i liked them when they heard us complaining about the excessive branding on the QFR and came out with less branded cases
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: swill on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:11:11
i liked them when they heard us complaining about the excessive branding on the QFR and came out with less branded cases

I also appreciated this...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 November 2013, 21:15:48
i liked them when they heard us complaining about the excessive branding on the QFR and came out with less branded cases

As usual, I was the only person who liked that.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 01:15:35
Interesting but aren't you concerned that if you can't retrofit a old Topre with these stems we going to have even less keycap options for true Topre stems.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 13 November 2013, 01:21:50
Interesting but aren't you concerned that if you can't retrofit a old Topre with these stems we going to have even less keycap options for true Topre stems.

I don't think that would be a concern at all. If you want to use Topre switches, buy a Topre/FC660C board. If you want to use MX stems with Topre feel, use this.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 13 November 2013, 01:26:10
^

i really have no idea what you just said there...

I think atlast3686 is concerned that he STILL wouldn't be able to get mx keycaps on his FC660C (for example). he wants to be able to put these new stems into his CURRENT board.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 13 November 2013, 01:36:50
Interesting but aren't you concerned that if you can't retrofit a old Topre with these stems we going to have even less keycap options for true Topre stems.

Not like the market's overflowing with "True" topre stem cap options currently.  That's why people are excited about the prospects of swaps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 13 November 2013, 03:37:12
Just as long as this keyboard has the Thorpe thock!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 13 November 2013, 05:11:40
Just as long as this keyboard has the Thorpe thock!

I just want to see a 60% version or a way where i can put the stems in a HHKB.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 08:16:46
Interesting but aren't you concerned that if you can't retrofit a old Topre with these stems we going to have even less keycap options for true Topre stems.

Not like the market's overflowing with "True" topre stem cap options currently.  That's why people are excited about the prospects of swaps.

That is very true, I would just hate to see all those Realforces and HHKBs without any options but it probably won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:05:34
Interesting but aren't you concerned that if you can't retrofit a old Topre with these stems we going to have even less keycap options for true Topre stems.

Not like the market's overflowing with "True" topre stem cap options currently.  That's why people are excited about the prospects of swaps.

That is very true, I would just hate to see all those Realforces and HHKBs without any options but it probably won't be an issue.

They already have very, very limited options in terms of keycap sets. Most sets for RealForce are sold out on EliteKeyboards.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 23 November 2013, 17:05:31
They already have very, very limited options in terms of keycap sets. Most sets for RealForce are sold out on EliteKeyboards.

If they ever decide to follow the MX fittings route, then Elitekeyboards would go bankrupt soon after  ;D .  After all who wants to stay enslaved to only ONE company to get any of their Topre fix?

Plus SP, GMK and BSP would get far more orders coming in from combined Cherry and Thorpie users, which can ONLY lead to a far greater choice for everyone involved  :thumb: .  This should be the future for everyone here.  You get a far greater choice plus the prices should plummet across the board (hopeful naivety).
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Sun, 24 November 2013, 06:18:22
Ughhh can't stop thinking about this, we need more info Carter! Even just a ball park release date so we don't go insane!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 24 November 2013, 06:21:06
Must. Have. Now. Also don't make it super expensive pls
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Sun, 24 November 2013, 06:23:10
Must. Have. Now. Also don't make it super expensive pls

Hell even if it's Realforce priced I'm sure they'll get plenty of takers, the MX stems are going to be one of the biggest selling points.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 24 November 2013, 08:32:30
Must. Have. Now. Also don't make it super expensive pls

Hell even if it's Realforce priced I'm sure they'll get plenty of takers, the MX stems are going to be one of the biggest selling points.

I know I'm interested in trying out some.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:53:01
Hey Carter,

Silenced Topre would like to have a word with you.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: theMANtonio on Tue, 26 November 2013, 11:27:45
Still want an update.. Will just post to bump this and hope for an update.  ;D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: korrelate on Fri, 29 November 2013, 21:39:29
i just want to say that carter was kind/evil enough to tell me about this quite a while ago, but i was sworn to secrecy and it has been literally KILLING ME.

two words; DOLCH TOPRE

I MEAN C'MON

HOLY SH*T !!! My sentiments exactly: DOLCH TOPRE?!! :eek:

Topre's caps seem to be very high quality, but I don't want darker on dark. just not for me. And white cases are kind of meh. I'd rather be able to throw my dolch on it. THAT and the fact that although I love MS I can't stand having any kind of windows logo on my keyboard ... all that has kept me away from Topre. If these are legit I'm picking up a 55g the next day.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Fri, 29 November 2013, 21:47:55
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stephen-Colbert-Give-It-To-Me.gif)

Updatesplz.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 29 November 2013, 21:50:43
please let there be an option without keycaps
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Fri, 29 November 2013, 22:56:45
for the love of the almighty, give me 75%
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:36:12
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:38:25
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.

Yeah I would pay a PREMIUM for this board if they just bit the bullet and did a limited edition with GMK caps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:44:05
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.

Yeah I would pay a PREMIUM for this board if they just bit the bullet and did a limited edition with GMK caps.

It would probably cost entirely too much :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:49:24
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.

Yeah I would pay a PREMIUM for this board if they just bit the bullet and did a limited edition with GMK caps.

It would probably cost entirely too much :P

If anyone could do it I'd say it would be CM. I'd imagine if they did a run of 1000 they could get TKL sets from GMK @ arround the $55 mark.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 29 November 2013, 23:54:52
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.

Yeah I would pay a PREMIUM for this board if they just bit the bullet and did a limited edition with GMK caps.

It would probably cost entirely too much :P

If anyone could do it I'd say it would be CM. I'd imagine if they did a run of 1000 they could get TKL sets from GMK @ arround the $55 mark.

So maybe ~$200 for a topre TKL with GMK caps?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:01:13
please let there be an option without keycaps

Hopefully if they go through all the trouble to put mx stems in topre they will have some decent keycaps to begin with.

Yeah I would pay a PREMIUM for this board if they just bit the bullet and did a limited edition with GMK caps.

It would probably cost entirely too much :P

If anyone could do it I'd say it would be CM. I'd imagine if they did a run of 1000 they could get TKL sets from GMK @ arround the $55 mark.

So maybe ~$200 for a topre TKL with GMK caps?

I'm betting this board with standard caps will be over $200 before adding GMK caps. Probably closer to $300 all up for a limited edition. It'd be so worth it though, people pay $300 for HHKB's!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:05:40
Sorry, but Can won't be selling or making a keyboard that is that expensive. Sure, it may still appeal to us enthusiasts, but most potential buyers would scoff at a $200+ price tag.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:39:53
that's why limited edition?

they KNOW we would find those boards even without a marketing effort from them.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 30 November 2013, 00:42:17
There is no business sense in selling to just a niche community. CM will, as always, provide a cool product at an affordable price that will have mass appeal. That makes business sense.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Sat, 30 November 2013, 01:04:21
yet, we know they're openly willing to experiment.

remember that giant oddly shaped metal CM board?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Sat, 30 November 2013, 02:31:20
Sorry, but Can won't be selling or making a keyboard that is that expensive. Sure, it may still appeal to us enthusiasts, but most potential buyers would scoff at a $200+ price tag.

Do you know how much CM Storm Mech costs around here? €150. It's not even the most expensive keyboard in the market. Hell, people buy Logitech G19 and MadCatz S.T.R.I.K.E. 7...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Sat, 30 November 2013, 06:21:55
There is no business sense in selling to just a niche community. CM will, as always, provide a cool product at an affordable price that will have mass appeal. That makes business sense.

Mechanical keyboards are a niche market already.  Topre is a niche inside this niche.  But I would almost be willing to bet my Thanksgiving week paycheck (108 hours worth of straight pay) that if these were made available with GMK caps at a production run on 1000 units they would sell out quickly.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:44:52
Sorry, but Can won't be selling or making a keyboard that is that expensive. Sure, it may still appeal to us enthusiasts, but most potential buyers would scoff at a $200+ price tag.

Do you know how much CM Storm Mech costs around here? €150. It's not even the most expensive keyboard in the market. Hell, people buy Logitech G19 and MadCatz S.T.R.I.K.E. 7...

I can safely assume most of Cooler Master sales are within the USA and that's where the price is right.

There is no business sense in selling to just a niche community. CM will, as always, provide a cool product at an affordable price that will have mass appeal. That makes business sense.

Mechanical keyboards are a niche market already.  Topre is a niche inside this niche.  But I would almost be willing to bet my Thanksgiving week paycheck (108 hours worth of straight pay) that if these were made available with GMK caps at a production run on 1000 units they would sell out quickly.

Mechanical keyboards are fast-becoming a not-so-niche market. Most people who own a mechanical keyboard don't even know "keyboard enthusiasts" exist. I think people here tend to overestimated the influence we have on vendors who produce keyboards. Yes, we can influence their design but not the target audience. The target audience of a smart business is the widest audience they can target...not a few hundred or even couple thousand of keyboard enthusiasts.

The reason why I don't think CM would bother with GMK keycaps is because the mass audience wouldn't know the difference nor would they care. Every normal person I've showed my keyboards and keycaps didn't really 'get it' as to why I would pay so much for mere keycaps. GMK keycaps would add over $55 (at least) to the cost of a keyboard. That $70 QFR would now be $130 = alienating most potential buyers.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Sat, 30 November 2013, 15:44:13
Sorry, but Can won't be selling or making a keyboard that is that expensive. Sure, it may still appeal to us enthusiasts, but most potential buyers would scoff at a $200+ price tag.

Do you know how much CM Storm Mech costs around here? €150. It's not even the most expensive keyboard in the market. Hell, people buy Logitech G19 and MadCatz S.T.R.I.K.E. 7...

I can safely assume most of Cooler Master sales are within the USA and that's where the price is right.

There is no business sense in selling to just a niche community. CM will, as always, provide a cool product at an affordable price that will have mass appeal. That makes business sense.

Mechanical keyboards are a niche market already.  Topre is a niche inside this niche.  But I would almost be willing to bet my Thanksgiving week paycheck (108 hours worth of straight pay) that if these were made available with GMK caps at a production run on 1000 units they would sell out quickly.

Mechanical keyboards are fast-becoming a not-so-niche market. Most people who own a mechanical keyboard don't even know "keyboard enthusiasts" exist. I think people here tend to overestimated the influence we have on vendors who produce keyboards. Yes, we can influence their design but not the target audience. The target audience of a smart business is the widest audience they can target...not a few hundred or even couple thousand of keyboard enthusiasts.

The reason why I don't think CM would bother with GMK keycaps is because the mass audience wouldn't know the difference nor would they care. Every normal person I've showed my keyboards and keycaps didn't really 'get it' as to why I would pay so much for mere keycaps. GMK keycaps would add over $55 (at least) to the cost of a keyboard. That $70 QFR would now be $130 = alienating most potential buyers.

Yeah I agree.
I think as most people on GH already have the keysets which they want, it's probably better to just put the cheapest keycaps on the board, and then people who care can just swap them out?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Sat, 30 November 2013, 16:17:53
^ looks at ivan's GBs

yep, everyone already has all the GMK they want.  explains the couple of hundred orders.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Awful on Sat, 30 November 2013, 16:23:56
Is it ****ty of me that I don't care about the board at all? I just want to be able to shoves these into a hhkb...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:18:29
has the hype died down?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:22:38
has the hype died down?

I think we're all still really eager for this, lack of new information has kind of killed the conversation though. C'mon Carter!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:33:50
has the hype died down?

I think we're all still really eager for this, lack of new information has kind of killed the conversation though. C'mon Carter!

Mate, I'm as excited as anything.
Got the bluest of balls :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:35:47
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dragonxx21 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:36:44
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys
....are you dumb?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 09 December 2013, 00:43:32
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys

I would applaud CM if they didn't sell them with keycaps but even if they do or not....people will switch them out as soon as they get the board.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: reziak on Mon, 09 December 2013, 01:13:04
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys

I would applaud CM if they didn't sell them with keycaps but even if they do or not....people will switch them out as soon as they get the board.

Yeah, that's definitely the whole point xD
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 09 December 2013, 01:16:10
I guess I'll just swap em out too. But I just hope they go like wasd with the barebones option
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 December 2013, 01:53:59
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys

I would applaud CM if they didn't sell them with keycaps but even if they do or not....people will switch them out as soon as they get the board.

We could always hope since they are going to all the trouble with the stems that they might actually have some decent caps...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Mon, 09 December 2013, 01:55:23
I just hope it comes out with a version without keycaps so I can use something better than thin gamer keys

I would applaud CM if they didn't sell them with keycaps but even if they do or not....people will switch them out as soon as they get the board.

We could always hope since they are going to all the trouble with the stems that they might actually have some decent caps...

Haha true, but even then, everyone has their own unique preferences :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Alessandro on Mon, 09 December 2013, 07:14:28
PBT spacebars and I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 09 December 2013, 07:25:25
has the hype died down?

I think we're all still really eager for this, lack of new information has kind of killed the conversation though. C'mon Carter!

Mate, I'm as excited as anything.
Got the bluest of balls :(

Me too man, me too. I really want to try Topre out but I've got a lot invested in my GMK caps now, being able to marry the two would be heaven!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Awful on Mon, 09 December 2013, 09:55:01
Also willing to buy one of these just to gut the stems into my hhkb (considering I would never own a cm-storm) where'd the details go :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 09 December 2013, 10:02:49
Also willing to buy one of these just to gut the stems into my hhkb (considering I would never own a cm-storm) where'd the details go :(
I think this was mostly just a tease of what's to come, my guess is with CES around the corner that we'll get a lot more details from them there.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 09 December 2013, 10:11:42
You know what would be awesome to complement that tkl....a numberpad with the same switches....but PLEASE make a 55g options!!!! :eek:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 09 December 2013, 10:17:22
Flyerfan1 has the right idea. Pretty sure in the mkawa interview/podcast, he said news or release was coming around CES 2014.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 12 December 2013, 06:56:44
Flyerfan1 has the right idea. Pretty sure in the mkawa interview/podcast, he said news or release was coming around CES 2014.
Hmm, I might delay my HHKB for now and see what Cm has in store. My birthday is in February So i can always ask for a Cm Quickfire Thopre (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/cd08785a.gif)

Until then i'm thinking a Poker 2 might suit my desires.(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/b210e58c.gif)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:14:58
These were posted on DT (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-60.html) and confirmed to be from CM.

(http://i.imgur.com/fxo66ok.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2tDA8fU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DhhJQR2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oY9rwvG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YeJiJ10.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:22:18
Hell yeah, let the CES leaks begin! Can't wait to hear availability, I will definitely be putting money aside for these.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:24:24
This is too ****ing exciting. I've wanted to try Topre for a good while now, but things like keycap availability have held me back.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: epzy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:26:35
ASDASFASASDASD!!!!!!11
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dante on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:29:14
Will this mean EK's contract with Topre is going to expire soon?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:45:39
Nice, very nice.  I'm definitely going to have to pick one of these up.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:51:41
It almost seems blasphemous seeing that CM font on Topre switches.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:54:15
It almost seems blasphemous seeing that CM font on Topre switches.

Considering the effort they've gone to with the MX compatibility I think they realise people will be swapping them out. Personally I'd love it if they did a cap less version.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: epzy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 09:55:14
Looking forward to seeing the price tag.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 10:09:10
CES is going on in Vegas and I haven't seen or heard any CoolerMaster news or any other keyboard related stuff yet?? Whats up with that?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 10:16:20
CES is going on in Vegas and I haven't seen or heard any CoolerMaster news or any other keyboard related stuff yet?? Whats up with that?
I think the "Welcoming Party" is still going on right now and throughout today, while most of the major unveils will go on from the 7th to the 10th.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 10:18:37
Still want to see how the stabilizers are setup.......
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 06 January 2014, 10:29:14
CES is going on in Vegas and I haven't seen or heard any CoolerMaster news or any other keyboard related stuff yet?? Whats up with that?
I think the "Welcoming Party" is still going on right now and throughout today, while most of the major unveils will go on from the 7th to the 10th.

Yeah the first day is usually a trickle of leaks and tomorrow we'll start getting some hard info coming out.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 06 January 2014, 12:04:34
I want more pictures of the stabilizers!!!!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 12:18:53
I want any pictures of the stabilizers!!!!!

FTFY
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: daerid on Mon, 06 January 2014, 13:00:21
Give me a self-contained Topre switch that can be soldered on to a PCB, and I will probably sell everything I own to buy them.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:21:58
This is getting better - standard TKL ANSI layout :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:23:34
I'll pimp this ish out in the same way I did to my QFR when I had it :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:29:21
need stab pics to see if it'll be possible to move these switches to hhkb
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:31:04
This is getting better - standard TKL ANSI layout :)

What were you expecting? :p


need stab pics to see if it'll be possible to move these switches to hhkb

I've got a feeling they won't be :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:35:19
me think you're correct
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:42:29
FMJ Topre Hyrbid Aluminum Case??? That'd be pretty sick. This board should help Topre go mainstream which will hopefully allow for more customization.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:43:24
me think you're correct

I'd like to be positive or whatever thats called....but lets be realistic....its a pipe dream.....
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:45:46
****

YES

IVE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:48:59
****

YES

IVE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS

what about all those other buys you are participating in?

maybe you could get extra money helping old people do stuff. or walk dogs. or something.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:53:17
I'd like to see the stabilizers first, and them some reviews, and then a 60% with a ANSI layout. Then I'll buy it right up
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 06 January 2014, 22:53:36
****

YES

IVE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS

what about all those other buys you are participating in?

maybe you could get extra money helping old people do stuff. or walk dogs. or something.

Could always sell a kidney. You only need one of those.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dragonxx21 on Tue, 07 January 2014, 00:09:57
****

YES

IVE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS

what about all those other buys you are participating in?

maybe you could get extra money helping old people do stuff. or walk dogs. or something.
What other buys? Isn't he known as the canceler?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 07 January 2014, 01:32:14
****

YES

IVE BEEN SAVING FOR THIS

what about all those other buys you are participating in?

maybe you could get extra money helping old people do stuff. or walk dogs. or something.
What other buys? Isn't he known as the canceler?

And with a custom title to prove it!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 January 2014, 20:51:44
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/08/udemage7.jpg)

In case anyone doesn't frequent DT
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 07 January 2014, 20:58:04
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/08/udemage7.jpg)


In case anyone doesn't frequent DT

How do those stabilizers work? They don't look like MX stems but clearly they are.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:05:58
Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/08/udemage7.jpg)


In case anyone doesn't frequent DT

How do those stabilizers work? They don't look like MX stems but clearly they are.

maybe it's something like the costar stabilizers that you can use some sort of insert or something
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:12:25
Ooh this is looking promising.

Also, nice avatar demik :))
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:14:43
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:15:35
Ooh this is looking promising.

Agreed. Looks quite promising, but I hope they bring out a 55g version. That'd be an instabuy. Dunno if I want to buy it if it ends up feeling like the Realforce 45g... but if it feels like Leopold 660C... well that'd be a maybe-instabuy.

Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

Meh. The HHKB is unique feeling because of the case-mount feel. The thock on that thing is pretty godly. HHKB is a different breed all together, imo.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:16:49
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

It is

Which is why I was holding out of buying a f660c

Even if this is $200 (CM would never price it above that, too hard to advertise) its a great product
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:18:55
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

It is

Which is why I was holding out of buying a f660c

Even if this is $200 (CM would never price it above that, too hard to advertise) its a great product

It'd be great if they price it below $200, but I really don't understand why you keep saying it'd be "too hard to advertise," if it's above that price.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:19:20
get realforce 86u
get cm topre
take the mx stems out of the cm
put them in the 86u
mod the 86 a little, turn it into an 84
put it in a custom aluminium case
put on original cherry caps
? ? ?
profit
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:20:34
get realforce 86u
get cm topre
take the mx stems out of the cm
put them in the 86u
mod the 86 a little, turn it into an 84
put it in a custom aluminium case
put on original cherry caps
???
profit

You gon' do dis?! I'd love to see thissssss. Get that 55g cups in there too!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:20:59
Ooh this is looking promising.

Agreed. Looks quite promising, but I hope they bring out a 55g version. That'd be an instabuy. Dunno if I want to buy it if it ends up feeling like the Realforce 45g... but if it feels like Leopold 660C... well that'd be a maybe-instabuy.

Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

Meh. The HHKB is unique feeling because of the case-mount feel. The thock on that thing is pretty godly. HHKB is a different breed all together, imo.

Have we seen any info from CM regarding the spring weight yet?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:21:32
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

It is

Which is why I was holding out of buying a f660c

Even if this is $200 (CM would never price it above that, too hard to advertise) its a great product

it's never a bad time to buy a hhkb.

layout > ability to make unicorn vomit
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:21:32
Ooh this is looking promising.

Agreed. Looks quite promising, but I hope they bring out a 55g version. That'd be an instabuy. Dunno if I want to buy it if it ends up feeling like the Realforce 45g... but if it feels like Leopold 660C... well that'd be a maybe-instabuy.

Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

Meh. The HHKB is unique feeling because of the case-mount feel. The thock on that thing is pretty godly. HHKB is a different breed all together, imo.

Have we seen any info from CM regarding the spring weight yet?

Not that I know of :( I'd love to know this too, if anyone has the info.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:22:08
You gon' do dis?! I'd love to see thissssss. Get that 55g cups in there too!
I'll wait and see if it's possible to put these mx stabilisers into a realforce board first.. then i'll consider thinking about it :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:23:18
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

It is

Which is why I was holding out of buying a f660c

Even if this is $200 (CM would never price it above that, too hard to advertise) its a great product

It'd be great if they price it below $200, but I really don't understand why you keep saying it'd be "too hard to advertise," if it's above that price.

The trigger is their only board above $150. And that has gamer lights and is full size.

The masses don't know what topre is, and thus won't buy this over their cheaper, cherry boards. Unless they advertise it as OOOOOHHH ELECTROOOO static membrane keyboard, it'll be interesting how they sell it

And I'm basing this off the f660c, which was $200, and is quite similar. Actual manufacturing probally costs the same
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: stancato9 on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:29:48
Maybe this was a bas time to buy an HHKB :\

It is

Which is why I was holding out of buying a f660c

Even if this is $200 (CM would never price it above that, too hard to advertise) its a great product

it's never a bad time to buy a hhkb.

layout > ability to make unicorn vomit

Yeah, the HHKB is beautiful and the pbt caps are all you would ever need.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Jalberstone on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:04:47

I found a video of it!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:09:51

I found a video of it!

OMG OMG OMG!!! They still didn't cover price but at least we have an idea on a release date.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:12:43

I found a video of it!

Nice work! Q2 2014 release sounds good, gives my wallet some time to prepare itself!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:20:01
lol, that was such a copout on the prices question
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:21:59
lol, that was such a copout on the prices question

Not really, if they haven't decided on final retail price he'd be a bit silly to start throwing numbers around at CES.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:23:04

I found a video of it!


For those who don't want to watch right now. Release is ~Q2 2014. Pricing as yet undetermined. They're marketing the Topre as being faster responding than the cherries.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:27:29
lol, that was such a copout on the prices question

Not really, if they haven't decided on final retail price he'd be a bit silly to start throwing numbers around at CES.

it's a copout because they know it's been one of the most reoccuring questions since they started this thread and still don't want to let anything out of the bag, even when it's a good opportunity to gauge public opinion on a price.

i'm not judging lol; it's just funny.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:27:51

I found a video of it!


For those who don't want to watch right now. Release is ~Q2 2014. Pricing as yet undetermined. They're marketing the Topre as being faster responding than the cherries.

GAMERRRRZ.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Jalberstone on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:45:11

I found a video of it!


For those who don't want to watch right now. Release is ~Q2 2014. Pricing as yet undetermined. They're marketing the Topre as being faster responding than the cherries.

It's weird how he never actually said the word "Topre".
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: missalaire on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:50:49

I found a video of it!

Did they actually take away the "gaming" font? :O
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:02:52

I found a video of it!

Did they actually take away the "gaming" font? :O

It looks the same to me. Maybe not though.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:03:24
I just want to see the stabilizers now, can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sai on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:10:34
dolch on hhkb would only be a dream even if we can replace the stems and the stabililzers.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:23:04

I found a video of it!

I really liked the Rapid I
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: eddie on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:31:36

I found a video of it!
Wow! This is amazing! Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. My wallet needs to prepare. :'(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:43:33
The "Novatouch" ?  What a name for it.

No matter. I still can not wait to get one.

Hopefully Linus/Slick, Jay, or someone asks some better questions.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:47:52

I found a video of it!

I really liked the Rapid I

the sideprint version looks pretty interesting.  seems like they have the switch and LED in the correct orientation(closer to the user)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 08 January 2014, 02:30:02
dolch on hhkb would only be a dream even if we can replace the stems and the stabililzers.

How do you figure that?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sai on Wed, 08 January 2014, 02:41:09
dolch on hhkb would only be a dream even if we can replace the stems and the stabililzers.

How do you figure that?

i am just saying it since the bottom row will be an issue. i could be totally wrong though. :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: KangarooZombies on Wed, 08 January 2014, 05:55:27

I found a video of it!

Hm.

I'd like to be able to test one out before buying it.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kyb on Wed, 08 January 2014, 06:44:07
I'll totally buy one of these just so I can transplant the stems to my HHBK :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: korrelate on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:17:09
Is this the NovaTouch TKL??? They just mentioned it at CES:

http://www.maximumpc.com/ces_2014_cooler_master_shows_haf_stacker_case_and_mechanical_keyboards_video

Definitely Topre switches but no mention of the cap mounting...

Could be!!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:18:50
Is this the NovaTouch TKL??? They just mentioned it at CES:

http://www.maximumpc.com/ces_2014_cooler_master_shows_haf_stacker_case_and_mechanical_keyboards_video

Definitely Topre switches but no mention of the cap mounting...

Could be!!!

A little late.  ^-^
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: korrelate on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:25:19
The NovaTouch TKL does have the Cherry compatible stems...

Seems like somebody might have already posted this, but I don't care... this is exciting.


Cheers!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: korrelate on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:34:34
Man I want to hear all about this thing. Who's making what, etc? Are the rubber domes pure Topre or a knock-off of Topre, etc?

Also... how mod-able are these switches? I saw a WFD video where he demonstrated that just taking the switches is difficult to do w/o breaking the switch. Can extract the stems and put them in a real Topre board (if too many of the components are too cheap, etc).


And then what is Topre up to? Are they coming out with a new board any time soon?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 12:19:00
Check out the first page for the answer to your first question.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: missalaire on Wed, 08 January 2014, 12:21:12

I found a video of it!

Did they actually take away the "gaming" font? :O

It looks the same to me. Maybe not though.

Yeah, you're right. I saw a better close-up of the keyboard and it still has the font. At least they did away with the extra white print that was on the QFR's function row though for this one.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:45:17

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:56:23

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.

55g full size please!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dante on Wed, 08 January 2014, 16:09:21
1. Has anyone at Coolermaster mentioned possible Silent variants - or if that is even possible with these?
2. Any guesses as to how well O-Rings / Landing Pads will compare to Topre silencing?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:02:24
55g full size please!!

This x1000000000000000000000
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:03:09

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.

55g full size please!!

Why full size? More domes to harvest or you just like the layout?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:05:46

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.

55g full size please!!

Why full size? More domes to harvest or you just like the layout?

I just like the layout!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:11:55
1. Has anyone at Coolermaster mentioned possible Silent variants - or if that is even possible with these?
2. Any guesses as to how well O-Rings / Landing Pads will compare to Topre silencing?

I'm pretty sure the bottom of the plunger will be the same as the current Topre boards which means you should have no problem silencing them on your own.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:13:48
If they do a 55 I'll convert to topre.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:18:07

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.

55g full size please!!

Why full size? More domes to harvest or you just like the layout?

Oh, I dun really care for fullsize. Just want 55g :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:36:06

Found another video with some information everyone might be interested in, 45g weighting across the board, but Carter said they weren't ruling out adding a 30, and 55g variant with different form factors.  Forward to around the 6:30 mark for info on the Novatouch.

chicken dinner right there...

hopefully he means 60% and 75% and not just full-size.

I'm sure there's going to be at lest a couple of happy forum members here about 30g domes.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:38:29
Probably just fullsize

Many gamers are scared of 60% and 75%

I'll ask around if you'd like
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:38:54
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:40:11
Probably just fullsize

Many gamers are scared of 60% and 75%

I'll ask around if you'd like

*clap*

that'd be great

sicne you're a gamer, any reasons 75% would actually be bad (besides no numpad)?  is it just unfamiliarity?

60% i definitely understand why people would veer away
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:44:27
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:52:47
I showed a CS:GO player and a Dota player them the noppoo choc mini and the Poker II

Both of them were wary of the Poker, no F-keys, no arrow keys, blah blah

CS:GO player didn't seem too wary of the noppoo, cuz it has f-keys, but the weird spacing of the f-row (it being close to the numrow, no space between F4 and F5) put off both of them completely.

So yeah, I expect they'll keep their fullsizes for now.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:53:53
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
\

even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:55:29
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
\

even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 17:57:09
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
\

even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

Factor that in, then ~$150 is what they should aim for

Really hope (but most likely will never happen) is barebones, so we can put in what we want
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:10:51
I showed a CS:GO player and a Dota player them the noppoo choc mini and the Poker II

Both of them were wary of the Poker, no F-keys, no arrow keys, blah blah

CS:GO player didn't seem too wary of the noppoo, cuz it has f-keys, but the weird spacing of the f-row (it being close to the numrow, no space between F4 and F5) put off both of them completely.

So yeah, I expect they'll keep their fullsizes for now.

What does the GO player even use the F keys for?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:10:57
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps. 
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:15:21
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:17:32
I showed a CS:GO player and a Dota player them the noppoo choc mini and the Poker II

Both of them were wary of the Poker, no F-keys, no arrow keys, blah blah

CS:GO player didn't seem too wary of the noppoo, cuz it has f-keys, but the weird spacing of the f-row (it being close to the numrow, no space between F4 and F5) put off both of them completely.

So yeah, I expect they'll keep their fullsizes for now.

What does the GO player even use the F keys for?

Quickly buy just one specific gun. Save himself a few fractions of a second to get rolling.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:18:37
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.
I agree with you, but at the same time, the majority of regular customers will probably not even know what an HHKB is, and saying "it has better key caps" would probably not justify a $60 increase to them, especially with the irregular layout. Still, $200 would be far too high of a price for this keyboard.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:24:19
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200(or even $150) for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.
I agree with you, but at the same time, the majority of regular customers will probably not even know what an HHKB is, and saying "it has better key caps" would probably not justify a $60 increase to them, especially with the irregular layout. Still, $200 would be far too high of a price for this keyboard.
And on that same note, how is your average customer going to feel when they see a $200 dollar board with the only on paper advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

It is a VERY hard sell to anybody who isn't a complete keyboard nut, I am sure a lot of the people who know about mechanical keyboards don't even know what the hell a topre switch is, or that there are mech switches other than cherry mx switches (alps, buckling springs, topre, etc..)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:30:39
advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

just a quick note, people don't need to understand ANYTHING about a product to buy it; they just need the pricing/branding/salesperson/public opinion to make them feel like they own the best/most unique product in that category.

ever see how people buy DSLRs? 
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:33:54
This is amazing!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:39:53
advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

just a quick note, people don't need to understand ANYTHING about a product to buy it; they just need the pricing/branding/salesperson/public opinion to make them feel like they own the best/most unique product in that category.

ever see how people buy DSLRs?

One number:

1337
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:47:13
advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

just a quick note, people don't need to understand ANYTHING about a product to buy it; they just need the pricing/branding/salesperson/public opinion to make them feel like they own the best/most unique product in that category.

ever see how people buy DSLRs?
Except a DSLRs pictures are going to look considerably better than most point and shoots, nobody is going to touch this keyboard and go "Oh yeah, I can feel the 1000hz" and then buy it...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:53:39
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:54:43
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

If it didn't that would be stupid. Have ****ty caps that only your board can use? No way
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: swill on Wed, 08 January 2014, 18:56:18
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

Yes, they did.  In the second video posted.  "Backwards compatible with cherry keycaps" is what they said.

Edit:

It is at 7:13 in this video:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: KangarooZombies on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:01:55
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
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even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better

Wow, its neat that you've gotten to try both of them already.

 :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:09:35
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
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even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better

Wow, its neat that you've gotten to try both of them already.

 :rolleyes:

form factor is better. You get the more common tkl vs the irregular shape of the 660 and the hhkb.
The CM topre is better because it takes cherry caps, meaning all those cherry mx GBs can be used on it vs 660c or hhkb
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:10:56
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

If it didn't that would be stupid. Have ****ty caps that only your board can use? No way

Who says they have ****ty caps? Are you some kind of magician that already has this board?

Stop posting stupid **** with no proof/basis
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:13:02
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

If it didn't that would be stupid. Have ****ty caps that only your board can use? No way

Who says they have ****ty caps? Are you some kind of magician that already has this board?

Stop posting stupid **** with no proof/basis

Going off of past occurrences. CM has only sold boards with ABS, no PBT nor POM at this point. To keep costs down, they're going to keep on doing that. Their popular QFR has ABS, and it has no problem selling, and with something as hot as this, people will buy it no matter what type of cap, so they will go ABS on cost
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:14:47
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

If it didn't that would be stupid. Have ****ty caps that only your board can use? No way

Who says they have ****ty caps? Are you some kind of magician that already has this board?

Stop posting stupid **** with no proof/basis
To be honest I think they are probably going to be the same type of keycaps their QFR's come with. I think they would have pointed it out if it had double shot keycaps(or anything else) (something about how it will last longer from gaming over time or something)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: KangarooZombies on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:14:57
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
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even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better

Wow, its neat that you've gotten to try both of them already.

 :rolleyes:

form factor is better. You get the more common tkl vs the irregular shape of the 660 and the hhkb.
The CM topre is better because it takes cherry caps, meaning all those cherry mx GBs can be used on it vs 660c or hhkb

The "Irregular shape" is a selling point for some, especially the HHKB.

Also we don't really know much about he build quality or feel of this new board. Its hard to tell if its "better" or not because no one has gotten their hands on it yet. We also dont know if these new switch stems will succesfully be able to deliver the full effect of a topre switch yet, which is a valid concern.

The waters are cloudy, its far too early to be calling one board flat out better than the other.

HHKB is king, baby.  :cool:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: swill on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:15:09
They didn't really say outright that it was cherry cap compatible. Did they?

If it didn't that would be stupid. Have ****ty caps that only your board can use? No way

Who says they have ****ty caps? Are you some kind of magician that already has this board?

Stop posting stupid **** with no proof/basis

They have thick PBT dysubs in a Cherry profile on this board.  Its in the video...

More
Haha...
Ahh the jokes.  Its only funny because so many people in this thread are talking out of their ass...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:19:33
advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

just a quick note, people don't need to understand ANYTHING about a product to buy it; they just need the pricing/branding/salesperson/public opinion to make them feel like they own the best/most unique product in that category.

ever see how people buy DSLRs?
Except a DSLRs pictures are going to look considerably better than most point and shoots, nobody is going to touch this keyboard and go "Oh yeah, I can feel the 1000hz" and then buy it...

that was just an example.  are you saying people are knowledable about the products they buy and don't just randomly the first thing they're told to (by whoever)?

are you saying razer products aren't bought very often?

people are EMOTIONAL consumers (meaning perception and belief is more important than fact), not logical ones; fundamental rule of marketing.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:22:49
advantage being 1000hz polling(because I am sure they even know what that means)

just a quick note, people don't need to understand ANYTHING about a product to buy it; they just need the pricing/branding/salesperson/public opinion to make them feel like they own the best/most unique product in that category.

ever see how people buy DSLRs?
Except a DSLRs pictures are going to look considerably better than most point and shoots, nobody is going to touch this keyboard and go "Oh yeah, I can feel the 1000hz" and then buy it...

that was just an example.  are you saying people are knowledable about the products they buy and don't just randomly the first thing they're told to (by whoever)?

are you saying razer products aren't bought very often?
Razer products have out there styling AND like I said BACKLIGHTING.

Your average buyer is going to see this next to a blackwidow and if they are the same price, they are probably going to buy the razer since they see it has more features, backlighting, macros, better looks (matter of opinion)

Not everyone just buys the **** they are told to buy by the idiot working there (usually the most expensive item)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:29:27
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.

To advance aftermarket caps, I think CM will partner with signature plastics and there new thing that is coming.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:33:05
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.

To advance aftermarket caps, I think CM will partner with signature plastics and there new thing that is coming.
They will release a whole new line of cherry mx keycaps and dominate the market of aftermarket keycaps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:35:39
They have thick PBT dysubs in a Cherry profile on this board.  Its in the video...

More
Haha...
Ahh the jokes.  Its only funny because so many people in this thread are talking out of their ass...

I think I heard that they will be using a dye-sublimated polymer / ceramic composite keycap technology.
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So much speculation and wishful thinking going on in this thread!

In all honesty, the keycap underside looked like a normal ABS CM one to me (and ABS isn't that bad. I mean people use cherry/gmk doubleshots all the time) so I don't know what the big deal is. B'sides if you're worried about the keycaps, just replace them.

About the stabilizers, it looks to me like there's just a single bar for the stabilizer. Without the crossbar, there may some differences with keycap types, much like SP keycaps and costar stabilizers (they need plastic to help fitment) but otherwise it makes sense to me. I'd love to see what that stab looks like under the cover though.

I'm a big fan of good engineering, etc.
Razer products have out there styling AND like I said BACKLIGHTING.

Your average buyer is going to see this next to a blackwidow and if they are the same price, they are probably going to buy the razer since they see it has more features, backlighting, macros, better looks (matter of opinion)

Not everyone just buys the **** they are told to buy by the idiot working there (usually the most expensive item)
From a retail perspective, brands like razer, etc. are commonly carried (and bought) because they have the weight of the brand behind them. Regardless of actual features / price / durability, if the brand is perceived by a certain way by the consumer, it's more likely to be purchased, or carried in a store.

I recently convinced my store to start carrying CMstorm KBs (the TK and pro), as we want to have more gaming peripherals. The way I was able to do this was because the CM keyboards have a good cost from our wholesaler / distributor, so we have a good chance of selling them. We decided not to carry razer keyboards as they have a higher cost, and I commented on the quality (we just had a huge amount of defective returns from a cheap third-party lightning cable manufacturer, so I was able to leverage from the wake of that)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:49:11
Is there any problem with speculation? I am not mad or hating on anybody, I am simply saying that this keyboard coming out at $200 and featuring high quality keycaps is very unlikely to happen. You see how much cooler master has to go out and push the 1000hz polling rate as a gaming feature, how in the world are they going to convince someone that they want to pay even more for thicker keycaps or double shot keycaps is actually worth the added cost?

I am just being realistic here, I don't see how cooler master(or logitech, razer, etc) could sell a keyboard at such a high price.

Also, have you actually had any more returns on razer keyboards compared to other brands in your store? I always find it interesting that people question razers quality and claim it is terrible when I don't really see any razer product owner claiming anything like that. The biggest complaints from actual owners always seem to just be the cost, I used a blackwidow for nearly a year and I don't have any hate for the product, the glossy finish was iffy but they are now matte. (Honest question, once again, no hate, sorry if it sounds like that :P)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:55:12
Is there any problem with speculation? I am not mad or hating on anybody, I am simply saying that this keyboard coming out at $200 and featuring high quality keycaps is very unlikely to happen. You see how much cooler master has to go out and push the 1000hz polling rate as a gaming feature, how in the world are they going to convince someone that they want to pay even more for thicker keycaps or double shot keycaps is actually worth the added cost?

I am just being realistic here, I don't see how cooler master(or logitech, razer, etc) could sell a keyboard at such a high price.

Also, have you actually had any more returns on razer keyboards compared to other brands in your store? I always find it interesting that people question razers quality and claim it is terrible when I don't really see any razer product owner claiming anything like that. The biggest complaints from actual owners always seem to just be the cost, I used a blackwidow for nearly a year and I don't have any hate for the product, the glossy finish was iffy but they are now matte. (Honest question, once again, no hate, sorry if it sounds like that :P)

Personally the biggest problem I've had with Razer is their mice. Got one that was new, and it failed within two days. Now I'm using my brother's old DA which has been working for years, though, so I see that it goes either way. As far as their keyboards, they don't appear to be made defectively. I doubt that there's a problem with any of them, besides the price.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:55:51
I recently convinced my store to start carrying CMstorm KBs (the TK and pro), as we want to have more gaming peripherals. The way I was able to do this was because the CM keyboards have a good cost from our wholesaler / distributor, so we have a good chance of selling them. We decided not to carry razer keyboards as they have a higher cost, and I commented on the quality (we just had a huge amount of defective returns from a cheap third-party lightining cable manufacturer, so I was able to leverage from the wake of that)

Finally a common sense approach from someone who actually sells these items verses the opinions of a few here on Geekhack, making spurious claims of how 'suspect this new CM keyboard 'might' be" (mainly from the idiot HHKB crowd).

When they finally release their new product then it'll get thoroughly reviewed by every owner and his dog.  Patience is a virtue  :thumb: .
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:41:20
But this is geekhack, prices most people here are willing to pay is irrelevant. I personally think it would be insane to pay $200 for this when you know its going to come with cheap keycaps and the HHKB is only $60 more than that with really good keycaps...

You're missing the main point though..which is this can take Cherry MX Keycaps.
And that is REALLY going to matter to the majority of customers who aren't going to even swap caps?....

I am not missing any point.

Of course you are...

You're saying a majority of customers aren't going to swap keycaps.  That is probably true.  Yet the same people buying this keyboard and not planning to or even know you can swap keycaps probably won't know about a HHKB and certainly won't know the keycaps on those are better.   The market segment that actually knows about a HHKB and knows about PBT keycaps are also the likely market segment that would swap out keycaps. 

And yet, in doing this they're making it so you can swap keycaps, they don't have to create a new set of Topre Compatible keycaps, they can just use what they're using today.  Not to mention the other people that DO want to swap out keycaps.

Personally I hate Topre for gaming and not too many pros use them for gaming so it is curious as to why they're trying to market this as a premium gaming board but that is a different subject.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:27:37
^

they like to experiment.  this is the same deal as the CM mech; whereas that one was heavily skewed towards flashy gamer styles, this one is heavily skewed toward enthusiat tastes (no backlights, topre, mx stems - all things that only enthusiasts care about).  they look completely different, but they're both experiments for sure.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:48:19
Personally I hate Topre for gaming and not too many pros use them for gaming so it is curious as to why they're trying to market this as a premium gaming board but that is a different subject.

So true...
Unfortunately the enthusiast market pails in comparison to the gaming one :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:46:55
To be honest, I actually would love to try this if it's affordable like the Type Heaven. I just view it as that but TKL and swappable; i'll definitely swap out for some PBT caps. I just hope it isn't incredibly expensive.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:54:03
Watch out, you may turn into one of the topre fanboys that I so often see you criticizing ;)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:36:09
Watch out, you may turn into one of the topre fanboys that I so often see you criticizing ;)

True enough. I tried it on moose's keyboard and I seriously like the sound, the sensation just isn't too impressive to me. Perhaps it'll grow on me, though.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 09 January 2014, 00:15:59
I think a lot of people when first trying Topre when they've made that switch to Cherry MX, think it feels too much like Rubber Dome which turns them off a bit...but there is a reason why so many people start liking it after awhile...

I really like Topre for typing..it is just enjoyable to use..and for work that is what I like to use...

Gaming wise though..I've tried and tried but there is something that bothers me about it and something that feels right about Cherry...which is why I use both switches...Maybe it the feel when I mash or spam a key or something...or the fact that it feels easier to do that on Cherry..I'm not 100% sure..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Thu, 09 January 2014, 01:52:01
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
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even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better

Wow, its neat that you've gotten to try both of them already.

 :rolleyes:

form factor is better. You get the more common tkl vs the irregular shape of the 660 and the hhkb.
The CM topre is better because it takes cherry caps, meaning all those cherry mx GBs can be used on it vs 660c or hhkb

opinions != facts
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Novus on Thu, 09 January 2014, 01:57:27
Can't wait to see the price on these. Not super happy about the 45g or the size (I really want a poker layout topper board), but if it's cheapish, CM has a buy from me.
I have already come to the conclusion that CM is probably going to have to keep the prices low even if they don't want to, since they are putting it out there as a gaming keyboard and presumably most mechanical keyboards are bought by gamers I don't see how a gamer can justify a big price tag without your standard gamer backlighting. I am thinking they should ask $110-$120 for it, if it's higher I don't see how they can sell it to your average person. Just think QFR vs Filco for pricing hopefully.
\

even $200 is fine by me. f660c is at that price, and this is better

Wow, its neat that you've gotten to try both of them already.

 :rolleyes:

form factor is better. You get the more common tkl vs the irregular shape of the 660 and the hhkb.
The CM topre is better because it takes cherry caps, meaning all those cherry mx GBs can be used on it vs 660c or hhkb

opinions != facts

Death to the non believers!!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:03:29
Here's a pic of the "stabilizers"

(http://i40.tinypic.com/157dndd.jpg)
Photo credits: CM Bram @Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-90.html)

edit: bleh already posted a couple pages back.

how does the other two stems sit on the stabilizer switches? Does it fit on the other side of the semi-circle?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:16:19
Hmm looks like it uses normal topre stabilizers
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:25:06
Yeah i'm guessing they've just made inserts for the caps like Costar does. Good news for people wanting to strip these for parts hopefully.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Thu, 09 January 2014, 11:12:55
Here's a pic of the "stabilizers"

Show Image
(http://i40.tinypic.com/157dndd.jpg)

Photo credits: CM Bram @Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-90.html)

edit: bleh already posted a couple pages back.

how does the other two stems sit on the stabilizer switches? Does it fit on the other side of the semi-circle?

The stabilizer appears to have sort of clamps or grips on the side which would hold onto the keycap, but I'm not certain. Otherwise I wouldn't know how it stays on the key.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 09 January 2014, 11:44:24
Here's a pic of the "stabilizers"

Show Image
(http://i40.tinypic.com/157dndd.jpg)

Photo credits: CM Bram @Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-90.html)

edit: bleh already posted a couple pages back.

how does the other two stems sit on the stabilizer switches? Does it fit on the other side of the semi-circle?

The stabilizer appears to have sort of clamps or grips on the side which would hold onto the keycap, but I'm not certain. Otherwise I wouldn't know how it stays on the key.
I believe the the key stem is attached in the switch center only the other two just rest on the nubs in the center of the opening, that move with the center stem. The notches are clearance for ribs that support the cherry style stem. On Topre caps all of the stabilized keys have only 1 stem with the exception of the spacebar. But in order to accommodate cherry keys 2 additional posts I think that's how they did it. 
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Thu, 09 January 2014, 12:25:19
Here's a pic of the "stabilizers"

Show Image
(http://i40.tinypic.com/157dndd.jpg)

Photo credits: CM Bram @Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-90.html)

edit: bleh already posted a couple pages back.

how does the other two stems sit on the stabilizer switches? Does it fit on the other side of the semi-circle?

The stabilizer appears to have sort of clamps or grips on the side which would hold onto the keycap, but I'm not certain. Otherwise I wouldn't know how it stays on the key.
I believe the the key stem is attached in the switch center only the other two just rest on the nubs in the center of the opening, that move with the center stem. The notches are clearance for ribs that support the cherry style stem. On Topre caps all of the stabilized keys have only 1 stem with the exception of the spacebar. But in order to accommodate cherry keys 2 additional posts I think that's how they did it.

That's exactly what I meant, hah. The center stem is the same, while the extra two are used as grips for the extra stems on both sides. I wonder how it feels..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: IPT on Thu, 09 January 2014, 12:59:31
Here's a pic of the "stabilizers"

Show Image
(http://i40.tinypic.com/157dndd.jpg)

Photo credits: CM Bram @Deskthority (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/topre-switch-cherry-mx-compatible-t7076-90.html)

edit: bleh already posted a couple pages back.

how does the other two stems sit on the stabilizer switches? Does it fit on the other side of the semi-circle?

The stabilizer appears to have sort of clamps or grips on the side which would hold onto the keycap, but I'm not certain. Otherwise I wouldn't know how it stays on the key.
I believe the the key stem is attached in the switch center only the other two just rest on the nubs in the center of the opening, that move with the center stem. The notches are clearance for ribs that support the cherry style stem. On Topre caps all of the stabilized keys have only 1 stem with the exception of the spacebar. But in order to accommodate cherry keys 2 additional posts I think that's how they did it.

That's exactly what I meant, hah. The center stem is the same, while the extra two are used as grips for the extra stems on both sides. I wonder how it feels..

prob pretty similar to how realforce feels.
I know the spacebar has those types of stabs on my rf
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: quake4mhg on Sat, 11 January 2014, 03:18:51
(http://i.imgur.com/cATtfv2.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kelske on Sat, 11 January 2014, 03:37:18
Let's get down to brass tacks here...

Who's pulling one of these apart and selling off plungers for $10 a piece? I'll take one, Gumrot is hungry for my HHKB  ^-^
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Abortion0 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 00:04:54
Damn can't wait for these things, can anyone with a topre keyboard tell me how they are for starcraft? (I know they aren't supposed to be the best, but I remember seeing one of the Korean pros with a realforce 87u a whil back and he seemed to be just fine.)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 00:06:30
Damn can't wait for these things, can anyone with a topre keyboard tell me how they are for starcraft? (I know they aren't supposed to be the best, but I remember seeing one of the Korean pros with a realforce 87u a whil back and he seemed to be just fine.)

Its all about preference
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Sun, 12 January 2014, 01:10:52
Damn can't wait for these things, can anyone with a topre keyboard tell me how they are for starcraft? (I know they aren't supposed to be the best, but I remember seeing one of the Korean pros with a realforce 87u a whil back and he seemed to be just fine.)

Some pros use clicky switches or rubber domes, which are supposed to be the worst for gaming, but they're fine too. The effect isn't particularly significant; experience on this site will tell you that it's really all about personal preference.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Sun, 12 January 2014, 01:16:22
i hope they don't ruin these boards by giving them full back lighting.

so ****ing tacky.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 12 January 2014, 04:28:59
So the OP was in the end teasing about the CM Novatouch? Would be worthwhile updating the thread title perhaps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 12 January 2014, 12:30:36
i hope they don't ruin these boards by giving them full back lighting.

so ****ing tacky.

Can you even do backlighting on topre?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 January 2014, 12:31:39
i hope they don't ruin these boards by giving them full back lighting.

so ****ing tacky.

Can you even do backlighting on topre?

You can
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 12 January 2014, 13:37:58
i hope they don't ruin these boards by giving them full back lighting.

so ****ing tacky.

Can you even do backlighting on topre?

But the LED placement is off to the side, it would be hard to make backlighting look even under the keycaps.
You can
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: swill on Sun, 12 January 2014, 16:30:00

i hope they don't ruin these boards by giving them full back lighting.

so ****ing tacky.

It is not backlit. That is specified in one of the videos at the very end.  They brought it up as a potential negative of the board, but the details are there.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 13 January 2014, 13:47:56
I guess it's time for me to start saving.. Let's see.

1. Buy HHKB Pro JP
2. Buy CM Novatouch
3. Swap stems from Novatouch to HHKB while lubing and silent modding
4. Install alternate controller board with Hasu's TMK firmware
5. Put Blank black Cherry profile PBT caps on from Ivan's GB....
6. Enjoy oneness with cup rubber AND cherry profile PBT on a custom layout.....  :thumb:

Of course that will be a rather expensive HHKB, but....
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 13 January 2014, 14:21:07
I guess it's time for me to start saving.. Let's see.

1. Buy HHKB Pro JP
2. Buy CM Novatouch
3. Swap stems from Novatouch to HHKB while lubing and silent modding
4. Install alternate controller board with Hasu's TMK firmware
5. Put Blank black Cherry profile PBT caps on from Ivan's GB....
6. Enjoy oneness with cup rubber AND cherry profile PBT on a custom layout.....  :thumb:

Of course that will be a rather expensive HHKB, but....

I'm actually super excited to know about the pricing on these. I think that CM can't price it too highly, because the consumers aren't all just geekhack members, so hopefully this will be our chance to get affordable Topre. And then I can try that dental band mod and not be sad that I can't get an HHKB.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 13 January 2014, 14:31:53
I want that full size 55g board they were talking about.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 14 January 2014, 05:45:46
HHKB with 55g rubber with Cherry mx stems lubed and silenced= Heaven
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 06:33:37
The novatouch should be relatively cheap

I would guess its below the $200 mark
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Tue, 14 January 2014, 06:35:33
HHKB with 55g rubber with Cherry mx stems lubed and silenced= Heaven

Did you finally buy one?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 14 January 2014, 06:56:15
HHKB with 55g rubber with Cherry mx stems lubed and silenced= Heaven

Did you finally buy one?
About too! I still have to make up my mind if i want to  buy a phone (I don't have one) or a HHKB this month. Hard choice.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 14 January 2014, 07:05:36
Feel will different......
modding dental band+Orings :))
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: damorgue on Tue, 14 January 2014, 07:09:08
I feel as if a big part of why people like Topre switches is because of the fine tolerances and excellent build quality which comes with their high price. I am not saying that CM won't succeed in making a copy, but if they make them cheaper then odds are that the build quality won't be as excellent and they won't spend the same meticulous attention to detail. If they aren't as perfect and a slight wobble and scratchiness is introduced, that can essentially make or break the impression of the Topre switch since I believe that to be the reason why a lot of people like them.

Edit: Read this description for instance (http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/what-costs-in-topres-i-don-t-get-it-t3295-60.html)

I believe that getting it absolutely right will be crucial to its popularity.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 14 January 2014, 08:29:20
HHKB with 55g rubber with Cherry mx stems lubed and silenced= Heaven

Did you finally buy one?
About too! I still have to make up my mind if i want to  buy a phone (I don't have one) or a HHKB this month. Hard choice.

lol if you keep talking about dat cup rubber with experiencing the oneness you might be a little disappointed when you get your HHKB. It honestly took me about a month for me to like my 660C
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:22:26
I want that full size 55g board they were talking about.

Is it bad that I only want the full size so I can get more 55gr Topre spings for my F660c?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:24:43
I want that full size 55g board they were talking about.

Is it bad that I only want the full size so I can get more 55gr Topre spings for my F660c?

You need domes....not springs...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:26:40
The novatouch should be relatively cheap

I would guess its below the $200 mark

That's my guess, too. CM tends to put out affordable products, even in the upper tiers. I'm going to guess it will be around $150.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:26:50
I want that full size 55g board they were talking about.

Is it bad that I only want the full size so I can get more 55gr Topre spings for my F660c?

You need domes....not springs...

Yeah those...more rubber nips!!!  :p
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:30:21
The novatouch should be relatively cheap

I would guess its below the $200 mark

That's my guess, too. CM tends to put out affordable products, even in the upper tiers. I'm going to guess it will be around $150.

Maybe even better with rebates.....I'm looking at you NEWEGG!! :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 January 2014, 14:25:36
The novatouch should be relatively cheap

I would guess its below the $200 mark

That's my guess, too. CM tends to put out affordable products, even in the upper tiers. I'm going to guess it will be around $150.

This I would love to see. Instabuy, if so. If this does happen, I wonder how RF will deal with it. I understand that HHKB has the different form factor, but RF, even if they are higher quality, it'll be hard to persuade people to buy their keyboards for $90-110 more.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:27:10
I would definitely buy the CM topre board, especially if its TKL or 60%.

Not necessary to convert to HHKB, because too much work/$$$. Also aren't the sizes non standard on the HHKB?

What sets would you need to buy to equip a HHKB with MX caps?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:30:32
I would definitely buy the CM topre board, especially if its TKL or 60%.

Not necessary to convert to HHKB, because too much work/$$$. Also aren't the sizes non standard on the HHKB?

What sets would you need to buy to equip a HHKB with MX caps?

A tsangan set and a 1.75x right shift.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:31:52
I would definitely buy the CM topre board, especially if its TKL or 60%.

Not necessary to convert to HHKB, because too much work/$$$. Also aren't the sizes non standard on the HHKB?

What sets would you need to buy to equip a HHKB with MX caps?

You'd need a tsangan kit.

And I would bet, priced right, people would buy the stem swapped novatouches here.  Hell, I plan to use mine as a second keyboard after the swap.

I would definitely buy the CM topre board, especially if its TKL or 60%.

Not necessary to convert to HHKB, because too much work/$$$. Also aren't the sizes non standard on the HHKB?

What sets would you need to buy to equip a HHKB with MX caps?

A tsangan set and a 1.75x right shift.

Good thing one includes the other.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:34:12
Really? I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:44:56
TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:45:55
TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


omgg can't wait to try it with thick pbt
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:46:37
TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Stems are probably loose. Same problem the 3D printed stems have/had.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 January 2014, 16:49:05
omgg can't wait to try it with thick pbt

Agreed. Wanna put thick PBTs and GMK on there. Maybe even SA.

Stems are probably loose. Same problem the 3D printed stems have/had.

Ah, I see. Would hate to have to sticky tape mod on all of the switches :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SigLogical on Tue, 14 January 2014, 18:46:12
TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


is it just me or is the capslock and scroll lock gonna have it's own backlit? because the printing looks very different from looking at the Capslock keycaps at 1:17
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:08:13
is it just me or is the capslock and scroll lock gonna have it's own backlit? because the printing looks very different from looking at the Capslock keycaps at 1:17

Off-topic but what's that in your signature?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:09:47
is it just me or is the capslock and scroll lock gonna have it's own backlit? because the printing looks very different from looking at the Capslock keycaps at 1:17

Off-topic but what's that in your signature?

Looks like and OSU! score
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 14 January 2014, 21:11:18
is it just me or is the capslock and scroll lock gonna have it's own backlit? because the printing looks very different from looking at the Capslock keycaps at 1:17

Off-topic but what's that in your signature?

Looks like and OSU! score

Ooh, coolio. My cynical side is in incredulity that they wouldn't put some sort of self-advertising logo on it.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: samwisekoi on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:13:02
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Sai on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:19:51
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

oh Sam is back !! welcome back !! :D
and you can never resist this cool thing. for the keyboard science.  :))
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:25:41
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

WHOAWHOAWHOA

You don't get to just stealth back with a lust for a new keyboard.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:26:36
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

Wish I had the same restraint - I am paying for it at the moment :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:32:47
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:35:10
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:36:13
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?

I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:39:41
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?

I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:41:44
so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014

I'm pretty sure that's first quarter..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:41:57
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:42:30
Make own TopreMx with this is
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Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:44:19
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.

I was under the impression we were talking about fiscal years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

1st quarter: 1 October 2013 – 31 December 2013
2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014
3rd quarter: 1 April 2014 – 30 June 2014
4th quarter: 1 July 2014 – 30 September 2014

Are we talking calendar or fiscal?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:44:51
really hope we get tkl 55g for $200 or less.  STILL prayîng for 55g 75%.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:46:41
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.

I was under the impression we were talking about fiscal years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

1st quarter: 1 October 2013 – 31 December 2013
2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014
3rd quarter: 1 April 2014 – 30 June 2014
4th quarter: 1 July 2014 – 30 September 2014

Are we talking calendar or fiscal?

I'm finding all sorts of conflicting information. I have no clue what we're talking about anymore.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:47:52
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

I mean the mx caps being usable on topre is awesome but no way CM makes a board that feels as good as a realforce.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:48:34
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.

I was under the impression we were talking about fiscal years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

1st quarter: 1 October 2013 – 31 December 2013
2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014
3rd quarter: 1 April 2014 – 30 June 2014
4th quarter: 1 July 2014 – 30 September 2014

Are we talking calendar or fiscal?

I'm finding all sorts of conflicting information. I have no clue what we're talking about anymore.

 :))
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:49:15
Hopefully CM will be aiming to build on the success of the QFR, which is one of the most often recommended keyboards I have ever seen.

That has a low price point, and relatively high quality.

Maybe this one will be the same, although they may need to recoup R&D costs and machining costs initially.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:52:06
dear cm, thank you for not leet gam3rs this board.

now pls make 60% board
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:54:05
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.

I was under the impression we were talking about fiscal years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

1st quarter: 1 October 2013 – 31 December 2013
2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014
3rd quarter: 1 April 2014 – 30 June 2014
4th quarter: 1 July 2014 – 30 September 2014

Are we talking calendar or fiscal?

I'm finding all sorts of conflicting information. I have no clue what we're talking about anymore.

OMG...you guys.  A fiscal year is started at any date a company determines.  It could be July 11 2013- July 10 2014 or any derivation of a 1 year time span starting at a different date.  CM's release date is given in calendar years...so....

Q1= Jan-March
Q2=April-June
Q3=July-Sept
Q4=Oct-Dec

PSA: Please don't quote wikipedia blindly. Kthnxbai
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pac Caps on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:54:07
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:55:35
More
I have been SO good. I haven't bought a new keyboard in almost a year now. But an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Well played, Carter, well played.

I am looking forward to yet another keyboard in the house. Hopefully there won't be any from OTHER vendors!

Good job.

 - Ron I samwisekoi

I've been holding off buying the RF 87u w/55gr for this keyboard. Might even have to buy a couple.

Good to see you again Sam!!!

plz don't be over $200..

did they release the release date?
I think Q2 is the most specific they got.

There was also an article somewhere that claimed <$200.

so

2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014


?!!?

that is shockingly soon

Google says that Q2 is April through June.

I was under the impression we were talking about fiscal years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

1st quarter: 1 October 2013 – 31 December 2013
2nd quarter: 1 January 2014 – 31 March 2014
3rd quarter: 1 April 2014 – 30 June 2014
4th quarter: 1 July 2014 – 30 September 2014

Are we talking calendar or fiscal?

I'm finding all sorts of conflicting information. I have no clue what we're talking about anymore.

OMG...you guys.  A fiscal year is started at any date a company determines.  It could be July 11 2013- July 10 2014 or any derivation of a 1 year time span starting at a different date.  CM's release date is given in calendar years...so....

Q1= Jan-March
Q2=April-June
Q3=July-Sept
Q4=Oct-Dec

PSA: Please don't quote wikipedia blindly. Kthnxbai

thanks for the schooling. today i learned!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Binge on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:57:47
Just to add to this... NOTHING outside the government occurs at the same time as US federal govn't fiscal year.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:59:13
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:00:56
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

Obviously, smaller is better.  They should just make a 1 button keyboard and make everyone learn morse code and trump everyone.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:03:35
NEW TECHNOLOGY FROM CM


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Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:07:13
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:08:57
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

he started spamming on pac caps for some odd reason
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:11:44
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

he started spamming on pac caps for some odd reason

yeah one of the mods was thinking ghetto caps was a diff user to, not sure what came of that
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:15:41
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:17:55
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:18:56
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!

Consumer *electronics* show

Not Consumer woods show.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:20:08
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!

Consumer *electronics* show

Not Consumer woods show.

aren't the AVN awards going on at the same time? technically he could go and show his wood.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:20:52
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!

Consumer *electronics* show

Not Consumer woods show.

aren't the AVN awards going on at the same time? technically he could go and show his wood.

AVN doesn't have an electron microscope, though...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:21:47
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!

Consumer *electronics* show

Not Consumer woods show.

aren't the AVN awards going on at the same time? technically he could go and show his wood.

AVN doesn't have an electron microscope, though...

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Kelso-Says-Burn-That-70s-Show.gif)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:22:34
Make a 40% and take Matias's 60% spotlight.

explain yourself pacifist, that makes no sense.

where has pacifist been? he has been awful quiet lately. maybe he went to CES.

You should go to CES.....

So should you, you could show off your wood!

Consumer *electronics* show

Not Consumer woods show.

geez TJ....he made a wood keyboard case....it'd be the next big thing.....just tell the gamers the natural wood casing makes them faster and more focused unlike the toxic plastic cases
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:23:45
But he seals them in polyurethane!!  /motherly hand wringing.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 14 January 2014, 23:24:42
But he seals them in polyurethane!!  /motherly hand wringing.

well I'm sure there's wood there....I was reading about it in that other thread
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Tisca on Wed, 15 January 2014, 05:36:32
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 15 January 2014, 17:27:47
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
They just don't want to say it's topre. Except on forums like these who know exactly what they are.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 17:32:28
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
They just don't want to say it's topre. Except on forums like these who know exactly what they are.
I might be mistaken, but doesn't the Cm Rep ask Logan at 1:40 "Have you ever touched a topre?"
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 15 January 2014, 17:37:08
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
They just don't want to say it's topre. Except on forums like these who know exactly what they are.
I might be mistaken, but doesn't the Cm Rep ask Logan at 1:40 "Have you ever touched a topre?"
I didn't catch on to that at first to be honest. But if someone asks what it is he will rave on about "High quality Japanese capacitive switch" But of course he just broke down and said topre after Logan said "I don't know man it looks like topre" And kept talking on about topre.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 17:41:20
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
They just don't want to say it's topre. Except on forums like these who know exactly what they are.
I might be mistaken, but doesn't the Cm Rep ask Logan at 1:40 "Have you ever touched a topre?"
I didn't catch on to that at first to be honest. But if someone asks what it is he will rave on about "High quality Japanese capacitive switch" But of course he just broke down and said topre after Logan said "I don't know man it looks like topre" And kept talking on about topre.
Yeah, very true.  Every video I have seen they seemed to be pushing that description instead of just saying Topre.  Perhaps it has something to do with them trying to market this as a gaming keyboard?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 January 2014, 18:05:20
...an MX-compatible Topre? Resistance is futile. Just futile.

Pretty much yeah. Only reason I won't buy one is if they don't offer ISO.


TekSyndicate just released a video on this thing, and you actually get to hear the thing at certain points. Sounds decent.

Also, strange how easily that cap popped off...


Didn't the CM rep know if it was Topre or didn't he want to admit it was?
They just don't want to say it's topre. Except on forums like these who know exactly what they are.
I might be mistaken, but doesn't the Cm Rep ask Logan at 1:40 "Have you ever touched a topre?"
I didn't catch on to that at first to be honest. But if someone asks what it is he will rave on about "High quality Japanese capacitive switch" But of course he just broke down and said topre after Logan said "I don't know man it looks like topre" And kept talking on about topre.
Yeah, very true.  Every video I have seen they seemed to be pushing that description instead of just saying Topre.  Perhaps it has something to do with them trying to market this as a gaming keyboard?

That's what I'm thinking. Can't see any point in CM engineering their own knock off when Topre are happy for other manufacturers to use their design.

This thread mentions Topre a few times in the OP as well and I don't think Carter would do that if they weren't legit switches.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 15 January 2014, 18:13:50
That's what I'm thinking. Can't see any point in CM engineering their own knock off when Topre are happy for other manufacturers to use their design.

This thread mentions Topre a few times in the OP as well and I don't think Carter would do that if they weren't legit switches.

Might be a marketing restriction.  Like "see price in shopping cart."

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Staal on Thu, 16 January 2014, 00:53:10
just hope they make one with 30/35g and its a winner.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: damorgue on Thu, 16 January 2014, 05:03:43
That's what I'm thinking. Can't see any point in CM engineering their own knock off when Topre are happy for other manufacturers to use their design.
This thread mentions Topre a few times in the OP as well and I don't think Carter would do that if they weren't legit switches.
The sliders are new however and I am curious as to who developed them. They not only have have MX mounts, but cutout for LEDs as well so they are significantly different. I wonder if the same kind of effort and money was spent on these to ensure that they are equally good to original sliders, or if secondary company got permission to make them which might mean that they don't fulfill the key elements which imo make Topre loved.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 16 January 2014, 05:20:19
just hope they make one with 30/35g and its a winner.
I don't even know how someone uses a 30/35g key switch in any case. So light man.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 17 January 2014, 12:38:44
Cool to see the video.. I'd get one but swap the caps immediately. Wow is that font horrible...  Hope they have all 45/55 versions. Can finally have a Geek Ha ck key on my Topre :p
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 17 January 2014, 14:32:57
Cool to see the video.. I'd get one but swap the caps immediately. Wow is that font horrible...  Hope they have all 45/55 versions. Can finally have a Geek Ha ck key on my Topre :p
Do you think if they capture the same feel as virgin topre, will you transplant them into your HHKB?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 17 January 2014, 15:06:08
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 17 January 2014, 16:21:50
Cool to see the video.. I'd get one but swap the caps immediately. Wow is that font horrible...  Hope they have all 45/55 versions. Can finally have a Geek Ha ck key on my Topre :p
Do you think if they capture the same feel as virgin topre, will you transplant them into your HHKB?

If it has the same size plungers/sliders thatd be a rad idea.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kenmai9 on Fri, 17 January 2014, 20:18:55
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

(http://unrealitymag.bcmediagroup.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/jizz-in-my-pants-andy-samberg1.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 17 January 2014, 20:20:16
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

Probably really good...

I didn't think of that.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Tisca on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:04:25
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pac Caps on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:20:39
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Aren't realforce caps also thin PBT?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:23:00
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Aren't realforce caps also thin PBT?

Exactly! There's no thick PBT Topre caps, so I'm interested in hearing and seeing some Cherry keys on the novatouch.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Tisca on Mon, 20 January 2014, 05:49:27
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Aren't realforce caps also thin PBT?

Yes, these are thin. What I meant was I doubt there will be much of a difference. The bottoming out is so dampened already the resonation in the cap is minimal. Cherry MXs are very different.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 20 January 2014, 13:59:49
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Aren't realforce caps also thin PBT?

Yes, these are thin. What I meant was I doubt there will be much of a difference. The bottoming out is so dampened already the resonation in the cap is minimal. Cherry MXs are very different.
Thocks will always be there from bottoming out on Thopre.
I'm pretty sure the "thock" will still be deeper than with Thin PBT caps. The lower Cherry profile will also make it quieter!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: epzy on Mon, 20 January 2014, 16:21:43
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Maybe not for you, but for others.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 20 January 2014, 20:23:25
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Maybe not for you, but for others.

It had to be said.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 21 January 2014, 03:53:20
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Maybe not for you, but for others.

+1
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Tisca on Tue, 21 January 2014, 04:30:01
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Maybe not for you, but for others.

Maybe there's no difference at all, just maybe. Can we know if we don't try?
Are there even any thick Topre PBT caps in existence or has anyone here converted a Topre board for MX and tried with thick PBT?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 21 January 2014, 06:51:55
Topre keycaps are all currently thin PBT right? I wonder how much deeper (and perhaps quieter) the "thock" will sound with some Cherry profile Thick PBT  :eek:

I doubt there will be enough difference to care. (typed on a Realforcre)

Maybe not for you, but for others.

Maybe there's no difference at all, just maybe. Can we know if we don't try?
Are there even any thick Topre PBT caps in existence or has anyone here converted a Topre board for MX and tried with thick PBT?

Not sure if it'll be felt as much on Topre, but there is a definite difference on MX for me. I'd like to actually be able to try it. Options are good.

I hope the sliders, plate, domes, springs, etc on this board are as accurate and consistent as on an HHKB.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 21 January 2014, 08:07:04
Maybe not for you, but for others.

Yeap..I'm sure a lot of people will want to try this.  Might be better, might be worse (might hurt the thock!).  Either way, the option to do what you want is great.  The thing that is annoying with Topre is you don't have the wide array of options for keycaps...they're just not there. 

It'll be curious to see if there are any restrictions fitting some keycaps (maybe cherry profile doesn't work) or not others or if they'll maintain the same type of stability of Topre...Have to wait and see..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: luminor on Tue, 21 January 2014, 09:00:26
Another waiting game...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:01:23
And I pulled the trigger on an FC660C. At least I can be happy that it has PBT caps, and I haven't tried thin PBT so it should be an interesting experience.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 19:42:25
And I pulled the trigger on an FC660C. At least I can be happy that it has PBT caps, and I haven't tried thin PBT so it should be an interesting experience.
Sweet!!! I really hope you like it. I think it's the best feeling 45g topre board, I just wish the legend printing was a little better.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 20:40:07
And I pulled the trigger on an FC660C. At least I can be happy that it has PBT caps, and I haven't tried thin PBT so it should be an interesting experience.
Sweet!!! I really hope you like it. I think it's the best feeling 45g topre board, I just wish the legend printing was a little better.

 :D Thanks!
I've heard that a lot of people think that it's the best feeling, but I did hear that it was pad-printed rather than lasered as they advertised. Oh well, not like I look at the legends anyways, haha. Looking forward to being an entrant into Topre nation.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 21 January 2014, 21:05:37
And I pulled the trigger on an FC660C. At least I can be happy that it has PBT caps, and I haven't tried thin PBT so it should be an interesting experience.
Sweet!!! I really hope you like it. I think it's the best feeling 45g topre board, I just wish the legend printing was a little better.

 :D Thanks!
I've heard that a lot of people think that it's the best feeling, but I did hear that it was pad-printed rather than lasered as they advertised. Oh well, not like I look at the legends anyways, haha. Looking forward to being an entrant into Topre nation.

They're lasered...but they put this little coating on it to help with wearing issues..it makes it look pad printed but it isn't...they dirty up pretty quick either way...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 21:55:11
And I pulled the trigger on an FC660C. At least I can be happy that it has PBT caps, and I haven't tried thin PBT so it should be an interesting experience.
Sweet!!! I really hope you like it. I think it's the best feeling 45g topre board, I just wish the legend printing was a little better.

 :D Thanks!
I've heard that a lot of people think that it's the best feeling, but I did hear that it was pad-printed rather than lasered as they advertised. Oh well, not like I look at the legends anyways, haha. Looking forward to being an entrant into Topre nation.

They're lasered...but they put this little coating on it to help with wearing issues..it makes it look pad printed but it isn't...they dirty up pretty quick either way...

Ah, good to know it's at least lasered then. Doesn't seem to big of an issue then, I'll just make sure to clean it monthly or so.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 21 January 2014, 22:12:36
I'm not sure how to clean them up to be honest..I've tried with some water and it doesn't seem to be coming off..it looks like the letters are wearing but pretty sure it is just darkening of the clear coat...It really doesn't matter though...On the plus side, they don't seem to shine easily...but some of the letters get dark...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 22:50:32
I heard that using some denture tabs will clean them to be nice and bright. How well that will work with black caps, I'm not entirely sure..
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Tue, 21 January 2014, 22:50:59
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Novus on Wed, 22 January 2014, 00:27:38
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 22 January 2014, 03:05:23
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

Get an HHKB while you can!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MJ45 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:17:27
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

Get an HHKB while you can!
Before CoolerMaster comes out with their 60% CMKB ProMaster  model.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Kamen Rider Blade on Sat, 25 January 2014, 15:55:00
At this point, with Topre potentially making Cherry MX compatible stems, it seems like Cherry MX keycaps are the most popular type in the world at this point
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 16:36:51
At this point, with Topre potentially making Cherry MX compatible stems, it seems like Cherry MX keycaps are the most popular type in the world at this point
Weren't they already?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 16:40:05
At this point, with Topre potentially making Cherry MX compatible stems, it seems like Cherry MX keycaps are the most popular type in the world at this point

pretty sure rubberdome has MX beat out.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ebacho on Sat, 25 January 2014, 16:48:19
pretty sure rubberdome has MX beat out.

Not all caps on rubber dome keyboards are interchangeable amongst each other though, but overall I'd agree.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 25 January 2014, 18:03:24
At this point, with Topre potentially making Cherry MX compatible stems, it seems like Cherry MX keycaps are the most popular type in the world at this point

pretty sure rubberdome has MX beat out.

If you're talking about replacement keycap sets, I don't think I've ever seen a set of replacement rubber dome key caps.  Cheaper just to replace the whole keyboard.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Linkbane on Sat, 25 January 2014, 18:30:49
Also it might be that keycaps on RD boards are often notoriously difficult to take off and would require a ring puller (attempting to remove a dome cap on a K60 nearly resulted in the destruction of my sole wire puller). However, it appears that at least superficially, RD keycaps are similar; I could try swapping the K60 keycap out with one on an HP.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Sat, 25 January 2014, 19:49:17
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:17:12
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: neunelfer on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:25:31
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:

Do you hold the record for most posts without ever actually owning a keyboard?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:26:52
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:

Do you hold the record for most posts without ever actually owning a keyboard?
And most novelty keycaps without owning a keyboard.  :cool:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:34:43
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:

Do you hold the record for most posts without ever actually owning a keyboard?
And most novelty keycaps without owning a keyboard.  :cool:
I only own a Steel Brobot V2. But of course I'm trying to get some other ones also. If anyone sells me them of course.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:36:34
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:

Do you hold the record for most posts without ever actually owning a keyboard?
And most novelty keycaps without owning a keyboard.  :cool:
I only own a Steel Brobot V2. But of course I'm trying to get some other ones also. If anyone sells me them of course.
I'll sell you a gold one for a measly 10x retail, which isn't all that bad. Just paypal gift me 2000 dollars and I can hook you up, free shipping and all.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 25 January 2014, 23:39:16
so is this thread still about CM's keyboard or w/e we want to talk about as long as it's topre related?


http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50380.0

cherry peasants are going to ruin topre.

2014 death of classy topre.

^ Talk about this. I wanna hear more about this  :thumb:
I have the sudden urge to buy a topre...

you should, since EK has dropped the price on all their boards! I mean, the EK Edition is 199!

Also, I'm pretty sure miller is saying there are probably a ton more RD boards in the world than cherry mx boards. so, yeah, rd keycaps have them beat out.
Damn that is a great deal! I'm going to buy a HHKB anyways. The money is going to good cause in any case. And now I will be able to preach about the HHKB and Topre  :cool:

Do you hold the record for most posts without ever actually owning a keyboard?
And most novelty keycaps without owning a keyboard.  :cool:
I only own a Steel Brobot V2. But of course I'm trying to get some other ones also. If anyone sells me them of course.
I'll sell you a gold one for a measly 10x retail, which isn't all that bad. Just paypal gift me 2000 dollars and I can hook you up, free shipping and all.
I'll pm you my details.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 26 January 2014, 01:43:12
Wow!

Such generosity!

Much kindness!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: skuko on Tue, 11 February 2014, 03:57:20
so no official info on availability yet?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Tue, 11 February 2014, 04:08:30
so no official info on availability yet?

I think they mentioned Q2 in one of the videos.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: skuko on Tue, 11 February 2014, 05:32:58
yeah Q2 is a relatively long timespan
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 11 February 2014, 07:04:07
In the video, they say towards the beginning of Q2. Hopefully that means April 1st, but that's unlikely.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dgreekstallion on Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:01:39
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2i8u5tz.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:03:07
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Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:21:11
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)
Title: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:22:55
I don't care about the font because the whole point of this is to use other MX keycaps anyways, but it's quite exciting that they will offer a silenced version :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: osi on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:24:49
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Is that micro USB as well?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:25:53
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Is that micro USB as well?
Looks to be!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Xowie on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:26:15
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Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:27:36
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


If these were to come in silenced UNIFORM 45g or 55g, I'm in (preferably 55g).
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:31:51
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


If these were to come in silenced UNIFORM 45g or 55g, I'm in (preferably 55g).
55g=instant buy

Sadly they are only starting with 45g the last time I checked.. (although they said they are open to different weights and layouts)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:34:37
If these were to come in silenced UNIFORM 45g or 55g, I'm in (preferably 55g).

They've been saying that they'll only offer 45g to start with though :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:34:38
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


If these were to come in silenced UNIFORM 45g or 55g, I'm in (preferably 55g).
55g=instant buy

Sadly they are only starting with 45g the last time I checked.. (although they said they are open to different weights and layouts)

Yeah, agree with you. Bring on the uniform 55g silenced!!!! Either way, I'll probably sit back for a few weeks/months to see what people think about it, before I buy one myself. Want to see that there are no issue, like certain profile keycaps not fitting properly, etc.

If these were to come in silenced UNIFORM 45g or 55g, I'm in (preferably 55g).

They've been saying that they'll only offer 45g to start with though :(

:( :( :( Might have to give it a shot anyway because I have yet to try silenced Topre. Depending on price, this might be the first. Le sigh.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:34:55
If these are 'silenced' then it means they are willing to try something besides just the stock 45g option so hopefully they sell well and we can get 55g.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:35:06
Fingers crossed for a silenced uniform 55g 60%...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HipsterPunks on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:37:56
Fingers crossed for a silenced uniform 55g 60%...

^^^ now i just need to get my greasy hands on a GH60 and ill be oh so happy.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:39:42
I don't think they need to rush into 60%. If they can get 55g out there to begin with I think most people will be super happy.

Lets just hope all the people who are saying they are going to buy this will do so.  :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:57:48
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Very cool.  Wonder why ole Carter hasn't posted any updates here?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:59:28
Looking good.

This could be one of only two more keyboards I would get.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:02:18
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Very cool.  Wonder why ole Carter hasn't posted any updates here?

Seems like they get more updates at DT as well :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:17:27
Looking good.

This could be one of only two more keyboards I would get.

No it won't Rowdy, you'll start the CM Keyboard appreciation society much like what the HHKB owners have done.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:56:45
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Interesting. Is this the first time a keyboard uses a micro usb port? :eek:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:22:18
Looking good.

This could be one of only two more keyboards I would get.

No it won't Rowdy, you'll start the CM Keyboard appreciation society much like what the HHKB owners have done.

Due to funding cuts, I can't really afford one more keyboard.  But I would like a Novatouch and an SSK.

Already got HHKB :p
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:23:05
From /r/mechanicalkeyboards, A Cm Rep posted the latest sample of the novatouch..I love the new font, and are those silenced stems?
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/QX0hZ0l.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/2tJKJzy.jpg)


Interesting. Is this the first time a keyboard uses a micro usb port? :eek:

Nope, Matias Mini Quiet Pro has been using it since 2012 and I bet there are probably keyboards that use it long before that. CM Quick Fire Rapid-I (which will be released soon) also uses it.

Edit: Logitech K800 (backlit membrane keyboard) uses it for charging and I think that's prior to 2012.

The Micro-USB is far more resistant than the mini-USB connector, thus it won't break easily.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: jameslr on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:26:36
I have terrible luck with micro-USB on cell phones. They get loose easily. Looks like there are integrated media keys too. That's really a nice feature I prefer to have on boards. I do want uniform 55g Topre though.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:31:10
I would have to agree with jameslr on this one.  I have had many more issues with micro usb than mini for cell phone chargers.  Plus to me they just don't feel as secure when you plug and unplug them.  While the plugs may have a longer life span in terms of how many times they can be plugged and unplugged, to me they just don't feel near as physically strong.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: wetto on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:34:17
The plug was quite firm when I tested it on the CM Quick Fire Rapid-I (it should be using the same), I can guarantee it's not loose.

But now, if we're going to talk about loose, you guys should take a look at the new "CM Storm Trigger Z":

(http://www.lilireviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Cooler-Master-Storm-Trigger-Z_3.jpg)

I know anything is better than the Mini-USB used before, but that full-sized USB Type A is loose as hell.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 04 March 2014, 22:40:52
I would have to agree with jameslr on this one.  I have had many more issues with micro usb than mini for cell phone chargers.  Plus to me they just don't feel as secure when you plug and unplug them.  While the plugs may have a longer life span in terms of how many times they can be plugged and unplugged, to me they just don't feel near as physically strong.

Agree.  I have had terrible bad luck with micro USB.  Wish they would have just stuck with mini.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 05 March 2014, 02:49:27
I would have to agree with jameslr on this one.  I have had many more issues with micro usb than mini for cell phone chargers.  Plus to me they just don't feel as secure when you plug and unplug them.  While the plugs may have a longer life span in terms of how many times they can be plugged and unplugged, to me they just don't feel near as physically strong.

Agree.  I have had terrible bad luck with micro USB.  Wish they would have just stuck with mini.

Agreed with all the micro usb comments. Sure, the lifespan is double of mini usb, but the surface area and shape of the connector is less than mini usb, thus giving it that flimsy feel. I'm not sure about others, but for me, Micro USB feels like it could snap in half if bent. Whereas mini feels a bit more rigid in my hands. It could just be my mind playing tricks though  :p
-----

Shame that that Trigger - Z has a loose USB A port. Even though the lifespan of it is the least, it's definitely the most sturdy feeling USB connector.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: daerid on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:20:36
The plug was quite firm when I tested it on the CM Quick Fire Rapid-I (it should be using the same), I can guarantee it's not loose.

But now, if we're going to talk about loose, you guys should take a look at the new "CM Storm Trigger Z":

Show Image
(http://www.lilireviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Cooler-Master-Storm-Trigger-Z_3.jpg)


I know anything is better than the Mini-USB used before, but that full-sized USB Type A is loose as hell.

Not to mention that it really doesn't adhere to the intent of the standard (even though it might adhere to the letter). Type-B plugs are meant to be used for upstream ports on client devices, whereas Type-A plugs are meant for downstream ports on the host machine.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:21:43
The plug was quite firm when I tested it on the CM Quick Fire Rapid-I (it should be using the same), I can guarantee it's not loose.

But now, if we're going to talk about loose, you guys should take a look at the new "CM Storm Trigger Z":

Show Image
(http://www.lilireviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Cooler-Master-Storm-Trigger-Z_3.jpg)


I know anything is better than the Mini-USB used before, but that full-sized USB Type A is loose as hell.

The XT uses a full size A plug as well :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: terrpn on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:42:21
so..............trying to read through everything and be clear

do we know if the initial board when it comes out will be 45 gram or 55 gram?

caps look like ABS again :mad:, but the mx is good

does anyone have any clue about the price yet and the release date is end of march?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:44:55
I honestly want them to put next to no money into the caps so that they're as cheap to produce as possible, keeping the total cost of the keyboard down. I don't understand why people would be excited about this if they weren't planning on switching the caps out :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:48:25
so..............trying to read through everything and be clear

do we know if the initial board when it comes out will be 45 gram or 55 gram?

caps look like ABS again :mad:, but the mx is good

does anyone have any clue about the price yet and the release date is end of march?

It'll be 45g http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cooler_Master_Novatouch I would wager that it'll carry a price tag similar to that of the Leopold FC660C.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 March 2014, 11:49:06
I honestly want them to put next to no money into the caps so that they're as cheap to produce as possible, keeping the total cost of the keyboard down. I don't understand why people would be excited about this if they weren't planning on switching the caps out :P

Because all the non-geekhackers who they need to buy this board so it is profitable. You know since this is the new best gaming board every.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:32:47
I still think it would be cool the be able to get keyboards from the manufacturer with no caps at a slight discount.  I would assume that this would at least have a bit of interest as I am sure a lot of people here have more sets of caps than keyboards to put them on.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:34:11
I still think it would be cool the be able to get keyboards from the manufacturer with no caps at a slight discount.  I would assume that this would at least have a bit of interest as I am sure a lot of people here have more sets of caps than keyboards to put them on.

And for people who have no care for ****ty stock caps
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 13:57:49
so..............trying to read through everything and be clear

do we know if the initial board when it comes out will be 45 gram or 55 gram?

caps look like ABS again :mad:, but the mx is good

does anyone have any clue about the price yet and the release date is end of march?

It'll be 45g http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cooler_Master_Novatouch I would wager that it'll carry a price tag similar to that of the Leopold FC660C.

How much g is the Leopold FC660?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:02:30
so..............trying to read through everything and be clear

do we know if the initial board when it comes out will be 45 gram or 55 gram?

caps look like ABS again :mad:, but the mx is good

does anyone have any clue about the price yet and the release date is end of march?

It'll be 45g http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cooler_Master_Novatouch I would wager that it'll carry a price tag similar to that of the Leopold FC660C.

How much g is the Leopold FC660?

45
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:04:43
I still think it would be cool the be able to get keyboards from the manufacturer with no caps at a slight discount.  I would assume that this would at least have a bit of interest as I am sure a lot of people here have more sets of caps than keyboards to put them on.

And for people who have no care for ****ty stock caps

And for people who just want those stems :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Carter on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:07:38
I honestly want them to put next to no money into the caps so that they're as cheap to produce as possible, keeping the total cost of the keyboard down. I don't understand why people would be excited about this if they weren't planning on switching the caps out :P

Thats has been our theory all along. We want to supply you with a solid foundation and let you choose keycap style. Everyone has a different preference.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:08:36

How much g is the Leopold FC660?

45

Thank you!

So how do 45g compare to 55g in practice? Like MX Brown to MX Clear?

I know you can't compare Topre to MX, but is it at least somehow comparable?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:18:39
So how do 45g compare to 55g in practice? Like MX Brown to MX Clear?

I know you can't compare Topre to MX, but is it at least somehow comparable?

I can't comment on the MX comparison but a Realforce 55g feels firm, springs back faster when lifting a finger, and just plain awesome. Topre boards with 45g weighting, whether the FC660C or HHKB, don't have enough tactile feedback in comparison. It feels hollow and like there's something missing.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:49:04
Thanks for the explanation! Sounds like I'd prefer a 55g version :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:05:09
Thats has been our theory all along. We want to supply you with a solid foundation and let you choose keycap style. Everyone has a different preference.

Understatement of the year ;)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 16:59:10
I still think it would be cool the be able to get keyboards from the manufacturer with no caps at a slight discount.  I would assume that this would at least have a bit of interest as I am sure a lot of people here have more sets of caps than keyboards to put them on.

And for people who have no care for ****ty stock caps

And for people who just want those stems :D

I'm going to have a field day switching those stems out  ;D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:04:04
I still think it would be cool the be able to get keyboards from the manufacturer with no caps at a slight discount.  I would assume that this would at least have a bit of interest as I am sure a lot of people here have more sets of caps than keyboards to put them on.

And for people who have no care for ****ty stock caps

And for people who just want those stems :D

I'm going to have a field day switching those stems out  ;D

I'd prefer to spend a day in a field instead of switching stems in case I broke something.

I'd probably prefer to try Matt3o's ones first, to avoid destroying a harmless CM keyboard.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:27:01
I honestly want them to put next to no money into the caps so that they're as cheap to produce as possible, keeping the total cost of the keyboard down. I don't understand why people would be excited about this if they weren't planning on switching the caps out :P

Thats has been our theory all along. We want to supply you with a solid foundation and let you choose keycap style. Everyone has a different preference.

That's awesome!

No matter how much I say I hate topre, I love GMK.

I was EXTREMELY conflicted on buying one of these

maybe not as much...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Carter on Wed, 05 March 2014, 21:42:21
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....


Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 05 March 2014, 21:58:37
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....


Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?

Yay!

Is it silenced torpe and is it 45g or 55g?Uniform or variable?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Carter on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:04:31
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....

Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?

Yay!

Is it silenced torpe and is it 45g or 55g?Uniform or variable?


The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:06:53
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....

Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?

Yay!

Is it silenced torpe and is it 45g or 55g?Uniform or variable?


The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!
You guys rock is what I think.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:07:18
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....

Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?

Yay!

Is it silenced torpe and is it 45g or 55g?Uniform or variable?


The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Sweet :thumb: Going to hold out for 55g :p

Oh and another question: Will the novatouch be compatible with universal TKL cases?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:11:53
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Sweet :thumb: Going to hold out for 55g :p

Oh and another question: Will the novatouch be compatible with universal TKL cases?

Yeah I'm going to wait for the 55g version as well. It sounds like there will be plenty of people buying the initial 45g one.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:12:46
Anyway guys, sorry for not being around as much. Been quite busy around here....

Rajiv will be headed to South By South West this week so I will try and be as active as possible to answer questions....

Also this thread has gotten a little long.... time for a new one?

Yay!

Is it silenced torpe and is it 45g or 55g?Uniform or variable?


The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Sweet :thumb: Going to hold out for 55g :p

Oh and another question: Will the novatouch be compatible with universal TKL cases?

But if nobody buys the 45g they won't make the 55g :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:19:15
I'd buy a 45g right away if CM would be willing to sell 55g rubber sheets later on, so we can just add them if we want :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 March 2014, 22:22:33
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Any comments on the micro- vs. mini-USB connector?  That seems to upset a lot of people.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:05:26
I prefer Micro USB ;D
WASD Kb and new Matias Kb i think using micro like some gadgets,Mini USB easily separate
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: morpheus on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:10:26
The Micro/Mini USB thing aside, Methinks this Novatouch has EPICNESS written all over it.

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:18:04
The Micro/Mini USB thing aside, Methinks this Novatouch has EPICNESS written all over it.



QFT
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 06 March 2014, 00:48:40
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Any comments on the micro- vs. mini-USB connector?  That seems to upset a lot of people.

I'd think all of CM's Novatouches are already in production/completed...so it would be too late to change that now. Although mini USB was supposed to be "discontinued" and replaced with micro USB...
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 March 2014, 02:40:43
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Any comments on the micro- vs. mini-USB connector?  That seems to upset a lot of people.

I'd think all of CM's Novatouches are already in production/completed...so it would be too late to change that now. Although mini USB was supposed to be "discontinued" and replaced with micro USB...

I was just curious if there was a specific reason why to make nearly all existing keyboard USB cables incompatible.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 06 March 2014, 05:56:47
what's consensus opinion on whether the stems will even be swappable with existing topre boards? They look different shaped.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Carter on Thu, 06 March 2014, 09:06:48
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Any comments on the micro- vs. mini-USB connector?  That seems to upset a lot of people.

I'd think all of CM's Novatouches are already in production/completed...so it would be too late to change that now. Although mini USB was supposed to be "discontinued" and replaced with micro USB...

I was just curious if there was a specific reason why to make nearly all existing keyboard USB cables incompatible.

We spent a lot of time studying this. Micro usb is an overall better design as the cable is intended to break before the female connection gives way. Its much easier to replace a cable then ask someone to re-solder a connection (Outside of GH of course)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: do_Og@n on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:19:07
Thanks for the update Carter. I look forward to testing out the keyboard and giving CM my feedback.

I'm sure we all are and I'll try my best not to throw my CCnG set on there before I have a chance to try out these new keycaps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 06 March 2014, 15:12:11
The purple stem is related to CM (Our now exclusive switch color) but also has characteristics of the silenced topre version.

Currently we are launching with 45g uniform with planning in the 55g category based on initial market feedback (Purchase power)

We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Any comments on the micro- vs. mini-USB connector?  That seems to upset a lot of people.

I'd think all of CM's Novatouches are already in production/completed...so it would be too late to change that now. Although mini USB was supposed to be "discontinued" and replaced with micro USB...

I was just curious if there was a specific reason why to make nearly all existing keyboard USB cables incompatible.

We spent a lot of time studying this. Micro usb is an overall better design as the cable is intended to break before the female connection gives way. Its much easier to replace a cable then ask someone to re-solder a connection (Outside of GH of course)

That will be a great comfort to a lot of people - thanks for the update :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:00:15
man, I was hoping this was going to be 55g. I hope everybody still buys tho, so CM will come out with a 55g version :P
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: korrelate on Thu, 06 March 2014, 20:12:34
Agreed. I hope 45g lovers rejoice but I'll have to sit this one out.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: intelli78 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 21:41:49
I'm definitely in for one. Any information re: timeline or price?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Magna224 on Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:02:11
I'm wanting the 55g as well LOL.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 06 March 2014, 22:39:33
I'm definitely in for one. Any information re: timeline or price?

Same here.  Can you give us a hint when in Q2 it will be available?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Merloobi on Thu, 06 March 2014, 23:31:51
I'm definitely in for one. Any information re: timeline or price?

Q2 and < $200
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 06 March 2014, 23:45:19
I will say, if you make a 60% 55g board thats compatible with standard 60% cases(ie aluminum) I will buy one for myself and another to stockpile at the very least
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: avtar on Thu, 06 March 2014, 23:50:52
I will say, if you make a 60% 55g board thats compatible with standard 60% cases(ie aluminum) I will buy one for myself and another to stockpile at the very least

Or just a 55g TKL and the rest of us will buy and/or stockpile them ;)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:14:02
I will say, if you make a 60% 55g board thats compatible with standard 60% cases(ie aluminum) I will buy one for myself and another to stockpile at the very least

I highly doubt they will make a 60% topre board, especially one that will fit any existing 60% cases (i.e.: cases for the poker, gh60, etc), is it even possible with the topre design, controller, layout etc?

They haven't even made a 60% MX board and even that wouldn't fit our cases, unless they just rebaged a poker or something.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 07 March 2014, 10:15:43
I will say, if you make a 60% 55g board thats compatible with standard 60% cases(ie aluminum) I will buy one for myself and another to stockpile at the very least

I highly doubt they will make a 60% topre board, especially one that will fit any existing 60% cases (i.e.: cases for the poker, gh60, etc), is it even possible with the topre design, controller, layout etc?

They haven't even made a 60% MX board and even that wouldn't fit our cases, unless they just rebaged a poker or something.

And they won't be able to keep them on the shelves until almost every topre owner on GH has one.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Dyslexic on Fri, 07 March 2014, 11:04:29
I know these are going to sell like crazy in Canada. As it stands now, EK is the only way to get a topre board up North and the duties/taxes/shipping and now currency conversion is killer on every single unit. HHKB turns into a $400 purchase, the FC660C I bought cost almost $300 all said and done. Looking forward to seeing topre availability in this country. :)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 08 March 2014, 12:55:39
We have also changed our font for this model as this particular segment is geared towards our enthusiasts segment (U guys).... tell us what you think!

Surprised most people missed this, no one commented on the font so I guess I'll give my input on it.

I know in general geekhack is really big on the Cherry Font but to be honest I find it too "old school" looking.

However I like thinner, cleaner and more modern looking font, something like this:

Das Keyboard Mac Edition  (Windows edition has different font)

[attachimg=1]

Matias Tactile Pro  (Minus the extra symbols)

[attachimg=4]

Apple Extended Keyboard II  (Not sure how I feel about italicized font but you get the idea)

[attachimg=2]

Feenix Autore  (Despite their ridiculous price I think this is a very good looking keyboard)

[attachimg=3]

This just feels more....... high end, it's like you're spending probably $200 on a keyboard you don't want it to look like a 12 year old's toy.

You want it to be classy.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:03:20
I doubt any geekhacker will notice the font before changing keycaps.

But yeah, the new font looks decent, although I still prefer Cherry, because it's super easy to read.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 08 March 2014, 13:08:58
I think CM should just find out where Vortex got their keycaps done (or Ducky, probably same factory).  And just ship it default with those OEM profile thick PBT and call it a day.  Personally I really like those keycaps.

Though you could be right, the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: RESPRiT on Mon, 10 March 2014, 01:47:49
I think CM should just find out where Vortex got their keycaps done (or Ducky, probably same factory).  And just ship it default with those OEM profile thick PBT and call it a day.  Personally I really like those keycaps.

Though you could be right, the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.

I can't see CM ever pushing out thick PBT, honestly. It would be too costly for them and one of their selling points is already having lower prices.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 10 March 2014, 01:57:40
I think CM should just find out where Vortex got their keycaps done (or Ducky, probably same factory).  And just ship it default with those OEM profile thick PBT and call it a day.  Personally I really like those keycaps.

Though you could be right, the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.

I can't see CM ever pushing out thick PBT, honestly. It would be too costly for them and one of their selling points is already having lower prices.

In that sort of bulk volumes I can't really see the price being affected by much more than $10 to $20 per board while keeping roughly the same profit margin.  Or at least have it as an option for a slightly upgraded price.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Mon, 10 March 2014, 03:37:42
"Upgraded" price, I like it.

How come Unicomp can do PBT out of the box...?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 03:46:12
the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.

Exactly... everyone is excited about this keyboard because they can use custom caps. No reason to push the price up with thick PBT stock caps when most buyers will be taking them off first thing.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 10 March 2014, 09:48:29
the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.

Exactly... everyone is excited about this keyboard because they can use custom caps. No reason to push the price up with thick PBT stock caps when most buyers will be taking them off first thing.

Which is why I think it would be nice to have an option to get one with no caps.  That is if it is all standard spacing, and layout including stab locations.  I am sure a good portion of the people here would rather have no caps on a board than standard issue caps.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Mon, 10 March 2014, 10:38:17
the whole point of having Cherry stems is that you can switch whatever keycaps you want so chances are people will swap out keycaps.

Exactly... everyone is excited about this keyboard because they can use custom caps. No reason to push the price up with thick PBT stock caps when most buyers will be taking them off first thing.

Which is why I think it would be nice to have an option to get one with no caps.  That is if it is all standard spacing, and layout including stab locations.  I am sure a good portion of the people here would rather have no caps on a board than standard issue caps.

Yeah I have far too many sets of stock caps around that I'll never be able to get rid of. White and black Filco sets and a Pure set too.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Merloobi on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:24:45
I'd like to throw my vote in for a capless board as well.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: MsYutai on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:03:33
Do want 55g full-size board @_@
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Dizon248 on Wed, 12 March 2014, 02:07:30
Yes to 55g TKL + PBT! Will hand over all my money hand over fist!!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: tbc on Wed, 12 March 2014, 04:35:41
no-caps 55G 75%!

stand out from crowd :D
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: bueller on Wed, 12 March 2014, 06:22:56
Jesus people, if you all hold out hoping for alternative layouts and weights then they'll never sell enough boards to justify the additional options.

(http://i.imgur.com/VmZqXtG.jpg)
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:11:09
They better sell a 55g alphas 45g mods winkeyless TKL with winkey blockers or there's no way I'm buying.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: davkol on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:34:41
They better sell a 55g alphas 45g mods winkeyless TKL with winkey blockers or there's no way I'm buying.

i.e. there's no way I'm buying
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 March 2014, 07:37:54
I swear to God, if they don't release a 1x - 1.5x - 10x - 1.5x - 1x full size all-30g with a numpad on the left, why bother releasing anything at all?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: Melvang on Wed, 12 March 2014, 10:44:36
I swear to God, if they don't release a 1x - 1.5x - 10x - 1.5x - 1x full size all-30g with a numpad on the left, why bother releasing anything at all?

I love the enthusiasm for a 10x space bar.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: blackbox on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:06:38
EDIT: the video I postet was posted before.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: RESPRiT on Thu, 13 March 2014, 09:26:36
I swear to God, if they don't release a 1x - 1.5x - 10x - 1.5x - 1x full size all-30g with a numpad on the left, why bother releasing anything at all?

Somewhere out there, that's someone's end game board.
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 22 March 2014, 01:03:32
Carter,

Do you think that you guys will offer the Novatouch in gray also like you did the QFR?  If not will you sell gray case tops as a aftermarket item?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 22 March 2014, 02:40:34
They better sell a 55g alphas 45g mods winkeyless TKL with winkey blockers or there's no way I'm buying.

That's what I have in my 87u! Love it..

Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: fart_toast on Fri, 23 May 2014, 03:46:33
If Coolermaster does decide to create a Topre line of keyboards with these MX-compatible switches, PLEASE OFFER THE OPTION TO BUY A BARE KEYBOARD WITHOUT KEYCAPS.

YES PLEASE DO THIS (Barebones kit) !!!! Otherwise we end up with lots of spare stock keycaps just lying around :(
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: daerid on Fri, 23 May 2014, 11:16:46
+1 for 55g Full Size
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:41:16
Any more news on this?
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: ComradeSniper on Fri, 08 August 2014, 22:43:26
Any more news on this?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61075.0
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Wed, 27 August 2014, 17:05:23
Any more news on this?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61075.0

Thanks!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: pbtforever on Wed, 27 August 2014, 17:35:03
Also was posted yesterday at reddit

http://imgur.com/a/CMqpt

Needs more PBT!
Title: Re: Topre switch w/ MX Compatible Stem.....
Post by: cobraj on Sat, 25 October 2014, 22:29:20
And it's released :)

http://www.amazon.com/Storm-NovaTouch-TKL-Exclusive-Capacitive/dp/B00MY3S288