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We are so lucky

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Quote from: masje on Mon, 29 June 2026, 22:27:51

Hype! Hoping for Novelkeys for US vendor 

I would be more than happy to have NK as the US vendor. They're a fantastic vendor for both customers and designers, and the main reason MTNU is still being run consistently today.

Strongly agree, GLWIC!

Thanks masje

So I am a full-size and Alice user. I also haven't been able to get hold of a WoB numpad and had to settle for TKL sets until they restock. GMK moves slowly. I have also been waiting for a BoW set for ages. So here's my feedback and my wishes:

* Provide a (separate?) numpad. If you provide both a BoW and a WoB (or your Honeywell white) I'll order both.
* Provide an expansion set of BoW modifiers in the same colours as the alphas. Then your kit will work as the effective and sorely missing BoW until GMK makes an official one.

I love to have these classic colourways and am looking forward to the IC and GB. So here's my gratitude for putting in the effort.

A note on pricing: the reason I missed out on the WoB numpad is because of low cashflow preventing purchasing any sets at all (more on this below) and when having landed again, there simple weren't any to get. The point here is that $99 or $159 (or whatever) isn't the consideration that makes me buy or fly. This is already an expensive enough hobby that price sensitive buyers can't cross over the threshold, and us MTNU buyers aren't put off by a few tens of dollars. So it is my feeling that optimising for price is probably focusing on a lesser (though still relevant) variable.

Appreciate the detailed feedback.

Yes, a potential BoW set would use the same stock colors I'm using for the alpha keys here (XS1 on XW1).

Separate Numpad Kits and a BoW Modifier Kit are definitely interesting ideas, and I have no reason to say no to either. Realistically though, they're unlikely to reach MOQ organically, which is why vendors generally prefer the all-in-one Base Kit approach for most sets (with the exception of kits sold directly by GMK and a few extremely popular colorways).

I also partially agree that GMK, especially, has such a high barrier to entry that a $30–50 difference (from a $99 TKL Base Kit to a $130–150 "Grand" Base Kit) is unlikely to make a significant difference for most people already interested in the CYL and/or MTNU profile.

That said, MTNU is more expensive than CYL. We've already seen all-in-one MTNU Base Kits with compromises in kitting and/or accents/novelties that still cost more than their CYL counterparts. I recently saw a TKL Base Kit (with more inclusive kitting than mine, and I suspect it was priced around the lowest starting MOQ) selling for a whopping $160. All of this makes it even harder for new people to give the profile a try.

I think MTNU Honeywell, with a ~$99 Base Kit and a classic colorway, has the potential to appeal both to existing MTNU fans and to people who have yet to try the profile. It's basically a win-win situation that will hopefully make the profile at least a little more popular than it is today.

I'm sure GMK will restock the MTNU WoB Grand Base Kit in the coming months. If we could somehow convince them to offer separate Numpad Kits for classic colorways like Beige and WoB, that would be even better.

So I am a full-size and Alice user. I also haven't been able to get hold of a WoB numpad and had to settle for TKL sets until they restock. GMK moves slowly. I have also been waiting for a BoW set for ages. So here's my feedback and my wishes:

* Provide a (separate?) numpad. If you provide both a BoW and a WoB (or your Honeywell white) I'll order both.
* Provide an expansion set of BoW modifiers in the same colours as the alphas. Then your kit will work as the effective and sorely missing BoW until GMK makes an official one.

I love to have these classic colourways and am looking forward to the IC and GB. So here's my gratitude for putting in the effort.

A note on pricing: the reason I missed out on the WoB numpad is because of low cashflow preventing purchasing any sets at all (more on this below) and when having landed again, there simple weren't any to get. The point here is that $99 or $159 (or whatever) isn't the consideration that makes me buy or fly. This is already an expensive enough hobby that price sensitive buyers can't cross over the threshold, and us MTNU buyers aren't put off by a few tens of dollars. So it is my feeling that optimising for price is probably focusing on a lesser (though still relevant) variable.

Quote from: masje on Mon, 29 June 2026, 22:27:51

Hype! Hoping for Novelkeys for US vendor 

I would be more than happy to have NK as the US vendor. They're a fantastic vendor for both customers and designers, and the main reason MTNU is still being run consistently today.

Strongly agree, GLWIC!