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Other Geeky Stuff / Re: I'm done buying Sony game consoles forever
« Last post by Findecanor on Thu, 02 July 2026, 08:51:29 »

Humanity has produced enough "games" for a lifetime. That being, no more games need to be invented.


"The advancement of the arts, from year to year, taxes our credulity, and seems to presage the arrival of that period when human improvement must end."
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Other Geeky Stuff / Re: I'm done buying Sony game consoles forever
« Last post by tp4tissue on Thu, 02 July 2026, 08:09:49 »
Realistically, all the game "Types" have already come out.

Humanity has produced enough "games" for a lifetime. That being, no more games need to be invented.

This is the case with music, it is the case with paintings, it is now the case with games.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] GMK MTNU Honeywell | $99 Base Kit?!
« Last post by Gtour on Thu, 02 July 2026, 04:27:35 »
Nice to see more MTNU options lately.

Will there be any novelties?

I don’t think it makes sense to include any novelties (since new legend/novelty molds increase the kit price) other than the two new legend molds inspired by the red accent keys on the original Honeywell keyboard.

Are there any specific novelties you’d like to see?
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] GMK MTNU Honeywell | $99 Base Kit?!
« Last post by Fede_Feo on Thu, 02 July 2026, 04:01:13 »
Nice to see more MTNU options lately.

Will there be any novelties?
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Off Topic / Re: Coke vs Pepsi
« Last post by pairdoom on Thu, 02 July 2026, 01:49:36 »
Makes sense! Pepsi grabs your attention with sweetness, while Coke has a deeper, slightly spiced flavor. It really depends on whether you're judging one sip or the whole drink.
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Group Buys and Preorders / Re: [GB] GMK Distortion - Punk Rock Inspired Keyset
« Last post by madmax13 on Thu, 02 July 2026, 01:31:24 »
What happend to International Set?

As Dvorcol stated, it will be made available on the GMK Webstore upon the fulfillment of the GB. I have added a note to the kitting above.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] GMK MTNU Honeywell | $99 Base Kit?!
« Last post by Gtour on Thu, 02 July 2026, 01:29:53 »
Now this is the kind of kitting feedback I like. You noticed the absence of the 2u spacebar.

So let me ask: which non-40% layout actually requires a 2u spacebar? The few 7u split spacebar layouts I've seen use a 3–1–3 split (rather than 2.25u + 2u + 2.75u), and every 60–65% Alice board I've come across over the years supports 2.25u and 2.75u.

I use a Keebio FoldKB. It is a split ortholinear keyboard that uses a standard keycap set. It has a 2u spacebar on the left side and a 2.75u spacebar on the right side.

I currently have DSS Honeywell on a FoldKB, and it included DSA profile split spacebars, which are useless to me. (They are concave and dig into the side of my thumb.) Fortunately, I was able to find white G20 keycaps that match the white alphas almost exactly.

If MTNU Honeywell does not include a 2u spacebar in the Extension Kit, then it is a nonstarter for me.

So let me ask: which non-40% layout actually requires a 2u spacebar? The few 7u split spacebar layouts I've seen use a 3–1–3 split (rather than 2.25u + 2u + 2.75u), and every 60–65% Alice board I've come across over the years supports 2.25u and 2.75u.

Does Preonic count? Apparently there might be another version in the works?

Sure, there are some extremely niche boards that support a 2u spacebar. But considering the design philosophy behind this set, does it really make sense to include it when some arguably more important keys are being left out? I don't think so.

There are already plenty of other sets that support it, so I don't really see it as a first-world problem.

That said, I'll keep it in mind and decide whether it's worth including based on the IC form responses (so please fill it out if you'd like to increase the chances of it happening).

The BoW Modifier Kit is an extremely interesting idea. Given that the BoW colorway is the best selling keycaps of all time, and the lack of MTNU BoW, i believe there will be lots of people actually buying both base and BoW mod kit. Especially if you eliminate even more keys in base kit to make it such that buying both kits could result in being even cheaper than if GMK itself suddenly release a BoW.

The new Agar Micro uses a 2U with a 2.25U. Agar Mini uses two 3Us. The 40s route is a giant scope creep that is incompatible with your stated goal of low prices. Even the SA A History of Violets, the most compatible kit for SA, become less compatible in their MTNU IC.

As a newbie with 0 MTNU sets, the $30 to $50 difference will tempt me more, but not an instant buy. A $50 to $70 difference though, would be an instant buy. A great example will be the recent GMK British Racing Green (BRG) Round 3 selling for USD$79. It has even lesser keys in base kit than yours, and i bought it instantly.

$79 will be close to impossible, for a few reasons:

- As you said, the kitting here is a bit more inclusive than British Racing Green R3, and I'm not going to reduce it any further. In my opinion, it wouldn't make much sense to remove non-accent keys, modifier-colored Pipe and Tilde, R2-Up, or the 65%/75% column.
- MTNU is more expensive for GMK to produce than CYL.
- This set also introduces two new legend molds, which have to be factored into the kit price.
- An important factor that people often overlook is the starting MOQ. That's one of the reasons Geon (and some other vendors) can drastically reduce prices. We don't know what the starting MOQ will be for this set yet.

BoW (Black on White) is definitely not the best-selling set of all time. At most, I'd say it's third or fourth, with WoB (White on Black), Beige, and possibly Dolch ahead of it. That's essentially why we haven't seen a vendor, or GMK themselves, propose an MTNU BoW yet.

The Agar Micro and some other 40% boards do support a 2u spacebar, but as I said, if I'm not going to add support for other 40% legend-accurate keys (and the Micro is even more complicated since it also uses a 2u Left Shift and a 1.5u R3 Tab), then adding just the 2u spacebar doesn't make much sense.



Thank you guys for commenting :)
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] GMK MTNU Honeywell | $99 Base Kit?!
« Last post by newzealot on Wed, 01 July 2026, 23:58:01 »
The BoW Modifier Kit is an extremely interesting idea. Given that the BoW colorway is the best selling keycaps of all time, and the lack of MTNU BoW, i believe there will be lots of people actually buying both base and BoW mod kit. Especially if you eliminate even more keys in base kit to make it such that buying both kits could result in being even cheaper than if GMK itself suddenly release a BoW.

The new Agar Micro uses a 2U with a 2.25U. Agar Mini uses two 3Us. The 40s route is a giant scope creep that is incompatible with your stated goal of low prices. Even the SA A History of Violets, the most compatible kit for SA, become less compatible in their MTNU IC.

As a newbie with 0 MTNU sets, the $30 to $50 difference will tempt me more, but not an instant buy. A $50 to $70 difference though, would be an instant buy. A great example will be the recent GMK British Racing Green (BRG) Round 3 selling for USD$79. It has even lesser keys in base kit than yours, and i bought it instantly.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] GMK MTNU Honeywell | $99 Base Kit?!
« Last post by FansForFlorida on Wed, 01 July 2026, 22:26:48 »
Now this is the kind of kitting feedback I like. You noticed the absence of the 2u spacebar.

So let me ask: which non-40% layout actually requires a 2u spacebar? The few 7u split spacebar layouts I've seen use a 3–1–3 split (rather than 2.25u + 2u + 2.75u), and every 60–65% Alice board I've come across over the years supports 2.25u and 2.75u.

I use a Keebio FoldKB. It is a split ortholinear keyboard that uses a standard keycap set. It has a 2u spacebar on the left side and a 2.75u spacebar on the right side.

I currently have DSS Honeywell on a FoldKB, and it included DSA profile split spacebars, which are useless to me. (They are concave and dig into the side of my thumb.) Fortunately, I was able to find white G20 keycaps that match the white alphas almost exactly.

If MTNU Honeywell does not include a 2u spacebar in the Extension Kit, then it is a nonstarter for me.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC] SW (B)olch (Entering Production)
« Last post by dvorcol on Wed, 01 July 2026, 21:06:24 »
https://deltakeyco.com/products/swg-bolch?srsltid=AfmBOoow9xMv573psTHQV3HXd4ZlHuHR7B9plXleJlwQYJQ0_BvrOJFc
https://qwertyqop.com/products/swg-bolch?srsltid=AfmBOoosQDdxr54g2usm6QB94lPXR9Xfd3iwyGIow9JhVWIwg9fQ7Osy
https://swagkeys.com/products/swg-bolch

Is the the full vendor list or is there a US vendor?

Some vendors ran a GB in March. See KeycapLendar for the full vendor list including links.
US vendor was Bowl Keyboards.

Some vendors are currently taking pre-orders (for example Qwertyqop and DeltaKeyCo listed above), and production is estimated to finish in August.

See also info in Swagkeys' Roadmap.
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