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[imivanh]

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[whirlwind]

Reserved

[zoo]

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[kk73715]

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**** this trend, **** these colors, do people really like this theme so damn much???

[tommyhongg]

To be honest, my eyes are gonna hurt if I have to stare at this all the time.

[Tree_]

Gotta cash in while it's hot I guess, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TheGenericAsian]

Introducing................

The Cyberpaint Deskmat!
Hand-crafted in MS Paint
Retail value $59.99
GB Release Date: April 16th, September 17th, November 19th, December 10th
Note: May come infested with bugs.
Dislaimer: Prolonged use may burn your retinas, we do not take any responsibility for any harm and are not liable for any losses, damages or injuries caused in connection with the use of this product

[Nonnegaard]

I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

It's clear that you're fairly new to the community. You made a GH account to post this thread. This is a 104 key base kit. That's something you majorly flesh out before you even have colors in a lot of cases. Your colors are web colors, meaning you're oblivious to the IC process and GMK production as a whole, things you can easily find out more about by visitng the trove of old GB and IC threads, or even uniqey's website. This comes off as a cash grab from an inexperienced community member, which, to be honest, I'm not ragging on, but I'm definitely not about it. Take some time in the hobby to be part of the community. Be a little more active. Find out what works, what's good, why it works, why it's good, and talk with more types of folks to engage in that exchange. That's what it's really about. While the "i see guy make thing, i can make thing too!" mentality certainly has driven a lot of cool stuff, this is not one of those cases.

Renders went from being a nice to have in ICs to nearly a need to have. It shows you have some level of personal commitment to the set that you would even pay for mockups our of your own pocket before anything is official. To not have renders and to just show off a set of KLEs, is definitely not a good look, and the KLEs do a very poor job of showing the colors that you want to show, or maybe they do a really good job, but to me they look like blanks. I'm not trying to bog you down or take shots at an easy target, rarely anything ever deserves that. If you're truly invested in making this set happen beyond a text-post and a barely visible KLE render, you need to make a very good impression, so that vendors who see your IC will want to work with ya.

Many people will not buy into the concept if the IC is not good from the get-go. You can sell any concept to anyone as long as the beginning impressions are good enough.

If you're intent on making this happen (and this would have to be very soon, before more eyes can see this and get their first impressions, which, in their current state would result in the set being written off extremely quickly) then you can:

1. Flesh out those layouts.
2. Get some renders.
3. Pick colors that aren't web colors, it's 2020. We have resources to help design GMK sets. GMK has resources to help design GMK sets. Use google, guy.
4. Goals, MOQs, prior contact to GMK show vendors that you're willing to do work beyond "hur dur look at color now shoulder it all for me," which, even if a vendor wouldn't take you up on, they would like to see.
5. Give more of a ****. Going into a project half-assed (you could be fully on board, but this post does certainly not show that) only makes me believe in the project less. If you don't believe in your project enough to give a detailed, commited sales pitch, why should any vendor, or even why should the community believe in it? Dipping your toes into the pool is simply not an option when everyone else who's making successful sets is hopping in headfirst.


cmon guy.

[imivanh]

I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

It's clear that you're fairly new to the community. You made a GH account to post this thread. This is a 104 key base kit. That's something you majorly flesh out before you even have colors in a lot of cases. Your colors are web colors, meaning you're oblivious to the IC process and GMK production as a whole, things you can easily find out more about by visitng the trove of old GB and IC threads, or even uniqey's website. This comes off as a cash grab from an inexperienced community member, which, to be honest, I'm not ragging on, but I'm definitely not about it. Take some time in the hobby to be part of the community. Be a little more active. Find out what works, what's good, why it works, why it's good, and talk with more types of folks to engage in that exchange. That's what it's really about. While the "i see guy make thing, i can make thing too!" mentality certainly has driven a lot of cool stuff, this is not one of those cases.

Renders went from being a nice to have in ICs to nearly a need to have. It shows you have some level of personal commitment to the set that you would even pay for mockups our of your own pocket before anything is official. To not have renders and to just show off a set of KLEs, is definitely not a good look, and the KLEs do a very poor job of showing the colors that you want to show, or maybe they do a really good job, but to me they look like blanks. I'm not trying to bog you down or take shots at an easy target, rarely anything ever deserves that. If you're truly invested in making this set happen beyond a text-post and a barely visible KLE render, you need to make a very good impression, so that vendors who see your IC will want to work with ya.

Many people will not buy into the concept if the IC is not good from the get-go. You can sell any concept to anyone as long as the beginning impressions are good enough.

If you're intent on making this happen (and this would have to be very soon, before more eyes can see this and get their first impressions, which, in their current state would result in the set being written off extremely quickly) then you can:

1. Flesh out those layouts.
2. Get some renders.
3. Pick colors that aren't web colors, it's 2020. We have resources to help design GMK sets. GMK has resources to help design GMK sets. Use google, guy.
4. Goals, MOQs, prior contact to GMK show vendors that you're willing to do work beyond "hur dur look at color now shoulder it all for me," which, even if a vendor wouldn't take you up on, they would like to see.
5. Give more of a ****. Going into a project half-assed (you could be fully on board, but this post does certainly not show that) only makes me believe in the project less. If you don't believe in your project enough to give a detailed, commited sales pitch, why should any vendor, or even why should the community believe in it? Dipping your toes into the pool is simply not an option when everyone else who's making successful sets is hopping in headfirst.


cmon guy.

I am a little confused by this response, this is a desk mat not a keycap set lol. I am in no way trying to make a keycap set or trying to half ass a design. This is an original design and we wanted to keep it minimalistic. And while I have not been a member of this particular geekhack community for long, I have been on the reddit side for quite some time now. I guess geekhack is much more exclusive and more gatekeeping than I thought. The fact that this was received here much more differently compared to reddit just shows that the community here really forces a high barrier to entry and also a lack of reading comprehension considering you thought this was a keycap set lmao

Also, have you guys looked at Dixiemech? They literally recolored their mech desk mat in cyberpunk colors and I do not see anyone complaining about that being "low effort"

To counter your points even more, I have already ordered samples for this mat from my manufacturer, and I have already received samples for another GB I have currently running to check quality. I really hate to release a product unless I know it will be good quality and something I believe people would enjoy owning. I am also my own vendor. I am absolutely floored you bothered to type out your response without reading and understanding my post.

[Swishy]

I appreciate the hustle and desire to capitalize on zeitgeist while you can.

That being said, early ICs are simply not the way to go about publishing a set concept. A bad early IC is way worse than a late, fleshed out IC. ICs are all about impressions and the impression this IC leaves upon me is very poor. You're looking for positive reception as confirmation for renders? You're not going to find it with this low quality of an IC.

It's clear that you're fairly new to the community. You made a GH account to post this thread. This is a 104 key base kit. That's something you majorly flesh out before you even have colors in a lot of cases. Your colors are web colors, meaning you're oblivious to the IC process and GMK production as a whole, things you can easily find out more about by visitng the trove of old GB and IC threads, or even uniqey's website. This comes off as a cash grab from an inexperienced community member, which, to be honest, I'm not ragging on, but I'm definitely not about it. Take some time in the hobby to be part of the community. Be a little more active. Find out what works, what's good, why it works, why it's good, and talk with more types of folks to engage in that exchange. That's what it's really about. While the "i see guy make thing, i can make thing too!" mentality certainly has driven a lot of cool stuff, this is not one of those cases.

Renders went from being a nice to have in ICs to nearly a need to have. It shows you have some level of personal commitment to the set that you would even pay for mockups our of your own pocket before anything is official. To not have renders and to just show off a set of KLEs, is definitely not a good look, and the KLEs do a very poor job of showing the colors that you want to show, or maybe they do a really good job, but to me they look like blanks. I'm not trying to bog you down or take shots at an easy target, rarely anything ever deserves that. If you're truly invested in making this set happen beyond a text-post and a barely visible KLE render, you need to make a very good impression, so that vendors who see your IC will want to work with ya.

Many people will not buy into the concept if the IC is not good from the get-go. You can sell any concept to anyone as long as the beginning impressions are good enough.

If you're intent on making this happen (and this would have to be very soon, before more eyes can see this and get their first impressions, which, in their current state would result in the set being written off extremely quickly) then you can:

1. Flesh out those layouts.
2. Get some renders.
3. Pick colors that aren't web colors, it's 2020. We have resources to help design GMK sets. GMK has resources to help design GMK sets. Use google, guy.
4. Goals, MOQs, prior contact to GMK show vendors that you're willing to do work beyond "hur dur look at color now shoulder it all for me," which, even if a vendor wouldn't take you up on, they would like to see.
5. Give more of a ****. Going into a project half-assed (you could be fully on board, but this post does certainly not show that) only makes me believe in the project less. If you don't believe in your project enough to give a detailed, commited sales pitch, why should any vendor, or even why should the community believe in it? Dipping your toes into the pool is simply not an option when everyone else who's making successful sets is hopping in headfirst.


cmon guy.

I have to agree with OP for a deskman IC this is just fine. There isn't much more they could do.

[treeleaf64]

Introducing................

The Cyberpaint Deskmat!
Hand-crafted in MS Paint
Retail value $59.99
GB Release Date: April 16th, September 17th, November 19th, December 10th
Note: May come infested with bugs.
Dislaimer: Prolonged use may burn your retinas, we do not take any responsibility for any harm and are not liable for any losses, damages or injuries caused in connection with the use of this product
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[Kokaloo]

[BapoDonu]

[ephemeral25]

[gilbert]

[yoot]

[of_sam]

[productkun]

[swomi]

[Vigrith]

What the ****

[Sup]

yes another desk mat that capitalize on a overhyped normie game to make EZ Clap money.

[Kokaloo]

[Owl]

buying the game on release and liking the game do NOT mean that the intent is not to cash in on the hype. At face value, this is still a group buy for a design that was taken from another IP where the colors were matched and the word "2077" was slapped on there. Why don't people just try to come up with their own designs and ideas instead of using other Intellectual Property? Why not let CD Projekt Red design their own merch if they want. Or you could have at least reached out to their team and been like, "Hey I would like to create merchandise for your game and with your blessing I can use actual branding and references so it doesn't look like look a cheap knock off".

You could have made your own cyberpunk themed deskmats without attaching the video game to it. It's an entire genre. You could have designed a cyberpunk landscape portraying some kind of unique dystopian future that you imagined up. Hell you could have drawn a furry with a bitcoin tattoo on his forehead and a metal arm, smoking a juul. Would have been WAY cooler than this. You could have literally done ANYTHING else other than the path of least resistance. But you chose this. So that's why it's bad. It's objectively low effort, unimaginative, and greedy.

Normally I would try to be supportive of designers on this forum and offer constructive criticism and feedback but I can't help but have a frustrated and condescending tone lately. Code Geass is on netflix... now there are 2 sets running for it. CyberPunk comes out, everyone and their uncle makes some **** up for it. A VTuber talks about your fetish and there are 5 designs for keyboards and keycaps on the front page.

If you can't think of something that isn't already someone elses video game or anime or youtube channel, you're not a designer or an artist. And you clearly don't have an imagination worth paying money for.

And you can't even take on the prospect with the least bit of humility. "Well this person did it so I should be able to do it. Stop gatekeeping and flaming me."

No one is gatekeeping you. We just don't want garbage circulating in our hobby.

[Sup]

[Pach]

what the hell is going on with these video replies on this deskmat ic thread

[imivanh]

buying the game on release and liking the game do NOT mean that the intent is not to cash in on the hype. At face value, this is still a group buy for a design that was taken from another IP where the colors were matched and the word "2077" was slapped on there. Why don't people just try to come up with their own designs and ideas instead of using other Intellectual Property? Why not let CD Projekt Red design their own merch if they want. Or you could have at least reached out to their team and been like, "Hey I would like to create merchandise for your game and with your blessing I can use actual branding and references so it doesn't look like look a cheap knock off".

You could have made your own cyberpunk themed deskmats without attaching the video game to it. It's an entire genre. You could have designed a cyberpunk landscape portraying some kind of unique dystopian future that you imagined up. Hell you could have drawn a furry with a bitcoin tattoo on his forehead and a metal arm, smoking a juul. Would have been WAY cooler than this. You could have literally done ANYTHING else other than the path of least resistance. But you chose this. So that's why it's bad. It's objectively low effort, unimaginative, and greedy.

Normally I would try to be supportive of designers on this forum and offer constructive criticism and feedback but I can't help but have a frustrated and condescending tone lately. Code Geass is on netflix... now there are 2 sets running for it. CyberPunk comes out, everyone and their uncle makes some **** up for it. A VTuber talks about your fetish and there are 5 designs for keyboards and keycaps on the front page.

If you can't think of something that isn't already someone elses video game or anime or youtube channel, you're not a designer or an artist. And you clearly don't have an imagination worth paying money for.

And you can't even take on the prospect with the least bit of humility. "Well this person did it so I should be able to do it. Stop gatekeeping and flaming me."

No one is gatekeeping you. We just don't want garbage circulating in our hobby.

Okay, so literally half the artisan caps that exist should be thrown out of the hobby then I suppose right? B.O.B Gengar, S-Craft, etc should not have a business because all they do is rip off "a popular video game". Fan art shouldn't exist because it's "stealing content". This desk mat is an original take of how we see a the style. Why are you guys all so self righteous about this hobby? Also, CDPR literally released the color code for the CP yellow they use, it is not like we stole their color without asking and branding it as our own. And again, Dixiemech literally recolored their mat and you want to talk to me about "low effort" or how we can't "design"

[switchnollie]

And while I have not been a member of this particular geekhack community for long, I have been on the reddit side for quite some time now. I guess geekhack is much more exclusive and more gatekeeping than I thought. The fact that this was received here much more differently compared to reddit just shows that the community here really forces a high barrier to entry and also a lack of reading comprehension considering you thought this was a keycap set lmao

You need to see this from someone's perspective that's been in this hobby for a longer time than you. Which is probably everyone here aside from mans with 1 post count up there but I ain't checkin. When you see a 4 post user come outta nowhere with a product based on the hot new topic it's easy to think they're just in it for a quick buck. Calling your target audience gatekeepers at the first sight of negative feedback is also not the move. Normally when I see these random ICs here with **** posts I just assume it's users from various Discords with they head up they ass but it seems OP is a bit ignorant this time.

Also, have you guys looked at Dixiemech? They literally recolored their mech desk mat in cyberpunk colors and I do not see anyone complaining about that being "low effort"

I just took a look at Dixiemech, first time checking out the site but I do know they've actually been in the scene for a while. I see what you mean with the recolors, lazy? Maybe, but it works since they're established and the designs aren't tied to someone else's IP. When a brand or Dixiemech in this case come up with a recognizable design that people like it makes sense to do recolors of it. Baker Skateboards for example has their block logo that they recolor all the time and it works because it's recognizable and people like it. When people like something they have no need to complain, switch Baker with Dixiemech in this example and you see why no one complains about it being low effort. This applies to more than just Baker and Dixiemech too, if you look around anywhere you'll see this done with many brands.

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

[imivanh]

And while I have not been a member of this particular geekhack community for long, I have been on the reddit side for quite some time now. I guess geekhack is much more exclusive and more gatekeeping than I thought. The fact that this was received here much more differently compared to reddit just shows that the community here really forces a high barrier to entry and also a lack of reading comprehension considering you thought this was a keycap set lmao

You need to see this from someone's perspective that's been in this hobby for a longer time than you. Which is probably everyone here aside from mans with 1 post count up there but I ain't checkin. When you see a 4 post user come outta nowhere with a product based on the hot new topic it's easy to think they're just in it for a quick buck. Calling your target audience gatekeepers at the first sight of negative feedback is also not the move. Normally when I see these random ICs here with **** posts I just assume it's users from various Discords with they head up they ass but it seems OP is a bit ignorant this time.

Also, have you guys looked at Dixiemech? They literally recolored their mech desk mat in cyberpunk colors and I do not see anyone complaining about that being "low effort"

I just took a look at Dixiemech, first time checking out the site but I do know they've actually been in the scene for a while. I see what you mean with the recolors, lazy? Maybe, but it works since they're established and the designs aren't tied to someone else's IP. When a brand or Dixiemech in this case come up with a recognizable design that people like it makes sense to do recolors of it. Baker Skateboards for example has their block logo that they recolor all the time and it works because it's recognizable and people like it. When people like something they have no need to complain, switch Baker with Dixiemech in this example and you see why no one complains about it being low effort. This applies to more than just Baker and Dixiemech too, if you look around anywhere you'll see this done with many brands.

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

When you put it that way, it makes sense why people would respond that way. I was just kind of shocked that this is how the community treats people who just want to put out something they think is cool. With my 2 month post history, I have just been a long time lurker (on reddit, and recently here) and have been working on figuring out how to put something out that I think people would like. I've ordered countless samples from manufacturers to find the one I think produces the highest quality desk mat. A lot of time and effort was put in and it's a little irritating people do not give it a chance because it's deemed "low effort".

[TheGenericAsian]

Edit: I guess people are confused and think this is a keycap set? Apparently I was not clear enough in the post. Before anyone cries about "low effort" or "cash grab", I would like to point out Dixie Mech literally recolored their Mech desk mat in yellow and I do not

That copypasta really hit OP different huh

I guess also literally half the artisan caps that exist should be thrown out of the hobby then I suppose right? B.O.B Gengar, S-Craft, etc should not have a business because all they do is rip off "a popular video game" without getting a license. Fan art also shouldn't exist because it's "stealing content."

So your knee-jerk reaction to criticism, on an IC of all things, is to attack the community. God forbid people dislike the design. As a designer, I understand it's frustrating when people don't respond well to something you put time into, but it should be a place to stop, re-evaluate and make changes.

I'll end this here by deleting the original content of this post. I'll be back with something you guys will love.

This is the only positive to come out of this thread. Good luck with the new design

[Tyson]

[kumori]

Hey man.
Just wanted to say you've done really good on the designs. I really liked the yellow one a lot!
You do need some work though and make it a bit more subtle.
 
If you can maybe post on r/mk or some other place, I'm sure there will be a lot more people there to love your design.
I can agree with some people here, but there is absolutely no reason for people to let you down and give s**t to you and hate on you for just asking people if they're interested and taking in feedback.
There is no reason to ever do so, so please ignore any hateful comments that are too personal.

There are a lot of new people and designers in this hobby, so not a lot of people know how to make an interest check etc.

If you want to add me on discord, we can talk more and I can help make your design a bit cleaner (it's pretty cool right now).
kumori#0001

[Sup]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

[treeleaf64]

I dont like it

[Chippy]

I dont like it

not treeleaf approved, we are done here lads.

And to op, i think people are just tired of seeing all these cyberpunk themed things going up with ****all for inspiration, that's all.

[pool]

I understand GH has always been a tougher community when it comes to designs as to keep quality high. But seeing how many drama-laden posts there have been lately, I'm starting to see that many people on GH simply enjoy starting and fueling drama instead of actually contributing positively (like what kumori and Nonnegaard did).

It's fairly disappointing to see how many so-called experienced and long-time members to act in such childish ways. Regardless of whether you believe OP is trying to cash grab, trying to capitalize on a trend, etc, acting in such a way is unacceptable, and in a forum that actually has moderators, you'd get your comment moderated immediately.

[imivanh]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

I've been lurking around for a while now, been on the sub reddits about a year now. I actually launched my first group buy on Monday already as well. I just think it's rather unfair for people to assume there is no effort put into this. I've spent a lot of time researching and finding manufacturers and ordering samples from a bunch of them to make sure I get the best quality stuff. I did do most of my posts on reddit so it is understandable people assume this is someone brand new and trying to make a quick buck

[$W4GK!NG]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

I've been lurking around for a while now, been on the sub reddits about a year now. I actually launched my first group buy on Monday already as well. I just think it's rather unfair for people to assume there is no effort put into this. I've spent a lot of time researching and finding manufacturers and ordering samples from a bunch of them to make sure I get the best quality stuff. I did do most of my posts on reddit so it is understandable people assume this is someone brand new and trying to make a quick buck

So you're saying you have been lurking without an account this whole time? because your account has just been registered on "Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:03:35" according to GH, and imo thats definetly not a "while", if you honestly have been lurking without a GH account then I would be quite surprise since making an account for a forum you will visit frequently is probably the first thing you will do when you visit any forum. Also, you have been talking about "putting effort" into sampling stuff from different manufacturers, but what about the design, what kind of effort has been put into the design? Is there any meaning behind the design? because truth be told, if someone was ordered to make a deskmat for CP2077, this will probably be one of the first thing in people minds, so I'm just wondering is there any meaning behind the design?

[Cubic // esc lab]

Hey OP -- it's really great you're dabbling your hands into design. It's always an exciting affair to make your own stuff.

Regarding the response you've gotten, I think you have the right idea. Go back to the drawing board. Order some samples. Do some color matching. Once you have a more fleshed out IC, post it again. I think you'll get a more positive response.

It used to be that GH welcomed IC posts as actual interest checks "are you interested in this, if so, I'll do more on it." But the actual meaning of IC has changed since then, and the GH community much prefers a fairly fleshed product. This also means more capital and effort required.

I'm personally not super familiar with the deskmat design + manufacturing, but the Keycap Designer Discord has an incredible amount of helpful people + resources to help you launch a full-fledged product. They even have a #deskmats channel, actually.

If I were in your position, I would let this thread go, and come back with a properly fleshed out IC. Like I said, you'll get a much warmer response.

GLWIC!

[imivanh]

Hey OP -- it's really great you're dabbling your hands into design. It's always an exciting affair to make your own stuff.

Regarding the response you've gotten, I think you have the right idea. Go back to the drawing board. Order some samples. Do some color matching. Once you have a more fleshed out IC, post it again. I think you'll get a more positive response.

It used to be that GH welcomed IC posts as actual interest checks "are you interested in this, if so, I'll do more on it." But the actual meaning of IC has changed since then, and the GH community much prefers a fairly fleshed product. This also means more capital and effort required.

I'm personally not super familiar with the deskmat design + manufacturing, but the Keycap Designer Discord has an incredible amount of helpful people + resources to help you launch a full-fledged product. They even have a #deskmats channel, actually.

If I were in your position, I would let this thread go, and come back with a properly fleshed out IC. Like I said, you'll get a much warmer response.

GLWIC!

Hey esc lab, big fan! I actually have already ordered samples for both the design for this mat and for the group buy I launched yesterday. I think it was a big misunderstanding people not realizing that I already committed a lot of time and resources, plus my manufacturers are ones that companies well known in the community like novelkeys and dixiemech use. I am not going into this willy nilly but I guess I did not communicate that well in this thread, since I mostly use reddit for my posts.

[Cubic // esc lab]

Hey OP -- it's really great you're dabbling your hands into design. It's always an exciting affair to make your own stuff.

Regarding the response you've gotten, I think you have the right idea. Go back to the drawing board. Order some samples. Do some color matching. Once you have a more fleshed out IC, post it again. I think you'll get a more positive response.

It used to be that GH welcomed IC posts as actual interest checks "are you interested in this, if so, I'll do more on it." But the actual meaning of IC has changed since then, and the GH community much prefers a fairly fleshed product. This also means more capital and effort required.

I'm personally not super familiar with the deskmat design + manufacturing, but the Keycap Designer Discord has an incredible amount of helpful people + resources to help you launch a full-fledged product. They even have a #deskmats channel, actually.

If I were in your position, I would let this thread go, and come back with a properly fleshed out IC. Like I said, you'll get a much warmer response.

GLWIC!

Hey esc lab, big fan! I actually have already ordered samples for both the design for this mat and for the group buy I launched yesterday. I think it was a big misunderstanding people not realizing that I already committed a lot of time and resources, plus my manufacturers are ones that companies well known in the community like novelkeys and dixiemech use. I am not going into this willy nilly but I guess I did not communicate that well in this thread, since I mostly use reddit for my posts.

All good mate. Our first IC post was a disaster too. You live you learn. Looking forward to seeing more updates 

[imivanh]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

I've been lurking around for a while now, been on the sub reddits about a year now. I actually launched my first group buy on Monday already as well. I just think it's rather unfair for people to assume there is no effort put into this. I've spent a lot of time researching and finding manufacturers and ordering samples from a bunch of them to make sure I get the best quality stuff. I did do most of my posts on reddit so it is understandable people assume this is someone brand new and trying to make a quick buck

So you're saying you have been lurking without an account this whole time? because your account has just been registered on "Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:03:35" according to GH, and imo thats definetly not a "while", if you honestly have been lurking without a GH account then I would be quite surprise since making an account for a forum you will visit frequently is probably the first thing you will do when you visit any forum. Also, you have been talking about "putting effort" into sampling stuff from different manufacturers, but what about the design, what kind of effort has been put into the design? Is there any meaning behind the design? because truth be told, if someone was ordered to make a deskmat for CP2077, this will probably be one of the first thing in people minds, so I'm just wondering is there any meaning behind the design?

If you read more carefully, I said I primarily use reddit. Did not plan on making a geekhack account until I decided to make the desk mats I have planned a reality. I guess it's a crime to not have an account on a forum. My designer's style is focused on minimalism, I don't think it's a lazy effort.

[$W4GK!NG]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

I've been lurking around for a while now, been on the sub reddits about a year now. I actually launched my first group buy on Monday already as well. I just think it's rather unfair for people to assume there is no effort put into this. I've spent a lot of time researching and finding manufacturers and ordering samples from a bunch of them to make sure I get the best quality stuff. I did do most of my posts on reddit so it is understandable people assume this is someone brand new and trying to make a quick buck

So you're saying you have been lurking without an account this whole time? because your account has just been registered on "Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:03:35" according to GH, and imo thats definetly not a "while", if you honestly have been lurking without a GH account then I would be quite surprise since making an account for a forum you will visit frequently is probably the first thing you will do when you visit any forum. Also, you have been talking about "putting effort" into sampling stuff from different manufacturers, but what about the design, what kind of effort has been put into the design? Is there any meaning behind the design? because truth be told, if someone was ordered to make a deskmat for CP2077, this will probably be one of the first thing in people minds, so I'm just wondering is there any meaning behind the design?

If you read more carefully, I said I primarily use reddit. Did not plan on making a geekhack account until I decided to make the desk mats I have planned a reality. I guess it's a crime to not have an account on a forum. My designer's style is focused on minimalism, I don't think it's a lazy effort.

Okay no need to be agressive there, like I said it just surprise me you lurk without account, didn't say anything about it being a crime, I just want an answer if you really do lurk without account or something, second, I didn't say its a "lazy effort" at all, I just find that the design doesnt have anything to do with the CP2077 that much, if you just change the color and remove the text 2077 it could've been just any glitchy/techy deskmat, and that's why I'm asking for any meaning behind the design.

ps: this is just my opinion but this is not minimalist at all, theres too much going on the deskmat to be minimal lmao

[imivanh]

Edit: I honestly was not expecting so much gatekeeping from you guys, it is quite disappointing. While I am not very active on geekhack, I have been a part of the hobby for a while now and am not new to the scene.

I was only able to find your post history dating back to two months on geekhack, reddit and Instagram. I wouldn't consider that awhile and see why people would think this is just a cash grab, seeing as your posts are all pretty much self promo rather than photos and such of items/ideas from other creators in the, "scene". I could go on and on but hopefully this is enough to help you see why people might respond in this way to you.

Pretty much this. Also your posts are only interest checks giving me the impression you are here just to promote and take advantage of a hype to make easy buck. 2 months is not considered being a long time in the hobby. After 3 and a half years being on Geekhack i still feel like a new pleb since I still learn a lot of new things from the OG's on here that have been active since the times this hobby was still in its niche states.

edit: changed some words up

I've been lurking around for a while now, been on the sub reddits about a year now. I actually launched my first group buy on Monday already as well. I just think it's rather unfair for people to assume there is no effort put into this. I've spent a lot of time researching and finding manufacturers and ordering samples from a bunch of them to make sure I get the best quality stuff. I did do most of my posts on reddit so it is understandable people assume this is someone brand new and trying to make a quick buck

So you're saying you have been lurking without an account this whole time? because your account has just been registered on "Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:03:35" according to GH, and imo thats definetly not a "while", if you honestly have been lurking without a GH account then I would be quite surprise since making an account for a forum you will visit frequently is probably the first thing you will do when you visit any forum. Also, you have been talking about "putting effort" into sampling stuff from different manufacturers, but what about the design, what kind of effort has been put into the design? Is there any meaning behind the design? because truth be told, if someone was ordered to make a deskmat for CP2077, this will probably be one of the first thing in people minds, so I'm just wondering is there any meaning behind the design?

If you read more carefully, I said I primarily use reddit. Did not plan on making a geekhack account until I decided to make the desk mats I have planned a reality. I guess it's a crime to not have an account on a forum. My designer's style is focused on minimalism, I don't think it's a lazy effort.

Okay no need to be agressive there, like I said it just surprise me you lurk without account, didn't say anything about it being a crime, I just want an answer if you really do lurk without account or something, second, I didn't say its a "lazy effort" at all, I just find that the design doesnt have anything to do with the CP2077 that much, if you just change the color and remove the text 2077 it could've been just any glitchy/techy deskmat, and that's why I'm asking for any meaning behind the design.

ps: this is just my opinion but this is not minimalist at all, theres too much going on the deskmat to be minimal lmao

Was not trying to be aggressive my bad. It has just been irritating all the (imo) irrational hate I have been getting all day. We wanted to do our best to find a middle ground, more towards minimalistic, while maintaining the CP identity. I don't deny that we wanted to celebrate the release of the game, but I definitely disagree with all the responses here that it was low effort or just for a "cash grab". It is definitely on me for not conveying clearly my intentions and how I was planning on running this. 

[Sup]

I understand GH has always been a tougher community when it comes to designs as to keep quality high. But seeing how many drama-laden posts there have been lately, I'm starting to see that many people on GH simply enjoy starting and fueling drama instead of actually contributing positively (like what kumori and Nonnegaard did).

It's fairly disappointing to see how many so-called experienced and long-time members to act in such childish ways. Regardless of whether you believe OP is trying to cash grab, trying to capitalize on a trend, etc, acting in such a way is unacceptable, and in a forum that actually has moderators, you'd get your comment moderated immediately.

We don't get censored here for what we think. This isn't reddit

[noorejji]

I understand GH has always been a tougher community when it comes to designs as to keep quality high. But seeing how many drama-laden posts there have been lately, I'm starting to see that many people on GH simply enjoy starting and fueling drama instead of actually contributing positively (like what kumori and Nonnegaard did).

It's fairly disappointing to see how many so-called experienced and long-time members to act in such childish ways. Regardless of whether you believe OP is trying to cash grab, trying to capitalize on a trend, etc, acting in such a way is unacceptable, and in a forum that actually has moderators, you'd get your comment moderated immediately.

We don't get censored here for what we think. This isn't reddit

What are you talking about, what you see here in this very thread _is_ censorship. Just in a different manner.

I think of smaller forums as a town in the backcountry, while reddit would be a big city. They both have their pros and cons; it pays to not be blind to it.

[treeleaf64]

Life can be sometimes ridiculous, huh.

I love it though I love it though you know

[EdgeOfInfinity]

ima need to see a product b4 i read that wall of text my guy...


or maybe i'll just

[Novuna]

I don't really care much for the hubbub about capitalizing on a popular product - by all means do so, the market will dictate acceptability.

What I will say though, is that I don't find the design particularly attractive and I think a 14 year old could come up with a similar quality image in about 1-2 hours in MS paint.

Not to disrespect the designer but the fact this is 'minimalistic' doesn't detract from how low-quality it is.