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Hey! Just gauging if there's enough interest to run a R0 and R5 kit for those who want the full cherry profile.

These are going to be for Retro (Classic retro, 9009, retro Cyrillic, 1800 double shots etc.) and WoB (Originative, Massdrop, 1800 doubleshots, etc).

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Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.



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« Reply #1 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:59:18 »
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:03:51 »
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:09:00 »
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?
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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:20:42 »
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:24:50 »
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.
75%/1800 support would complicate matters - r0 versions of nav cluster etc. that said, i'd be down for that.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o
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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:27:37 »
Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o

Well, considering this is an add-on kit for, say, a GMK Classic Retro, GMK KA1953, GMK 9009 (R1/R2), GMK Originative (without R5), GMK White on Black Massdrop edition,... you'd probably already have the 6.25u and 7u spacebars.
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:30:27 »
I'd be interested if more compat was added - WKL TKL may be too limited to hit MOQ imo

sorry to be a combo breaker

I contacted GMK, just waiting for a response. I could run a 1u "super" key like carbon- but I don't want to add too much to run up the price of the set.

Are people going to want to have an R5 6.25 bottom row?

Personally, I do think that adding the R5 1.25u keys (2x Ctrl, 2x Super, 2x Alt, 1x Fn) and the 1u keys (2x Super) would be smart. It gives these classic sets immense compatibility in R5 bottom row -- with 65%/75%/1800-CP, etc.
75%/1800 support would complicate matters - r0 versions of nav cluster etc. that said, i'd be down for that.

Note: no need to add a spacebar.
Genuine question, why not? :o

Didn't even think about 65-75% boards! Adding that compatibility would mean I'd be adding 30ish (?) keys total For the 1800 top row and the 1.25 R5 keys effectively bringing this kit to around 100 keys.

I might just consider adding R5 keys instead of worrying about 1800 R0 compatibility.

Spacebars are the same

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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:31:09 »
ah okay, i figured there might be r5 spacebars

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:43:21 »
N9 and CC would be nice too.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 19:59:49 »
N9 and CC would be nice too.

I thought so too. Just not sure if one should do all 3 colorways at once.

Didn't even think about 65-75% boards! Adding that compatibility would mean I'd be adding 30ish (?) keys total For the 1800 top row and the 1.25 R5 keys effectively bringing this kit to around 100 keys.

I might just consider adding R5 keys instead of worrying about 1800 R0 compatibility.

Spacebars are the same

Yeah, I think R0 compatibility adds a whole lot more keys because of 1800 and the extra columns in other layouts.

I think keeping this to R5-only might be a way to keep it cheap. Personally, I found R0 to be a bit slanted and too tall.
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:00:53 »
+1 on N9/CC
I'd be very conservative on expanding key coverage.  Maybe add 2 x R5 1u

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:05:28 »


Here's an edited version of the Umka Modifiers I grabbed from GMK Carbon R2 for guidance to the OP for what keys may be relevant.

And two keys that I forgot: 1u 0 key, and 1u 00 key.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:40:57 »
Interested,

I also will be that guy, knowing full well it is WKL TKL support only, but what are the chances to include the 3 nav keys for 1800 as well?

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 21:41:52 »
Yes.

Double yes if there's 1.25u R5 involved.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 00:44:29 »
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Here's an edited version of the Umka Modifiers I grabbed from GMK Carbon R2 for guidance to the OP for what keys may be relevant.

And two keys that I forgot: 1u 0 key, and 1u 00 key.

Thanks! I'll look into the possibility of adding some of these.

Interested,

I also will be that guy, knowing full well it is WKL TKL support only, but what are the chances to include the 3 nav keys for 1800 as well?

I'm debating whether I should add more keys to support 1800/ odd layouts. I'm waiting for GMK for pricing, I don't want to add too much to raise prices.

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« Reply #21 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 01:21:06 »
100% down for this

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 01:59:19 »
Yes, please. I'm in!

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« Reply #23 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 02:04:57 »
Yes!  :eek:

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« Reply #24 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 02:45:06 »
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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 08:18:18 »
Cool idea - especially if you add in the 6.25 /1.25 mods, and maybe 2 1u mods as well. It's probably not the intention for the set, but the 65% right side nav would be cool to include (r2 pg up, r3 pg dn, fn r4) as well if it doesn't add much cost.

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« Reply #26 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:25:42 »
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

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« Reply #27 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:29:07 »
Interested with the added R5 support
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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 09:29:49 »
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

The 6.25 / 1.25 R5 molds were recently made for gmk carbon r2. No other set has put them to use though as far as I know.

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« Reply #29 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 10:28:17 »
I am very interested in the compatibility offered by the edited Umka version posted by LightningXI. Having 1.25u & 1u mods is good for my 1800/75%/65% boards.

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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:08:04 »
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.


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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:09:44 »
Please change that Alt Gr to Alt. There are plenty of R5 beige Alt Gr's out there :))

Could also consider using the old Windows logos for 1.25 keys if you want a really classic look.


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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 12:18:54 »
Please change that Alt Gr to Alt. There are plenty of R5 beige Alt Gr's out there :))

Could also consider using the old Windows logos for 1.25 keys if you want a really classic look.

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Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 14:55:01 »
In. I would prefer to keep the Alt Gr key if they already have molds for it.

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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 15:27:36 »
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

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good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 15:53:10 »
Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 16:06:01 »
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

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good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?

They'll be in one kit. Might be difficult hitting MOQ if split. And I'm assuming most people who are interested in this own or would want to own these colorways  :)

Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.

Lol, no diamond icons.

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 19:46:37 »
Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:
There are tonnes of dyesub and doubleshot OG Cherry boards in German layout, all of which have R5 1.5 Alt Gr.

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 23:43:52 »
Are those Alt Gr's doubleshot or dyesub?

I'm still trying to get in contact with GMK, but I wouldn't want new molds made to keep prices low. I know Carbon ran a 1.25 "Alt" and not "Alt Gr" so I know those molds are already created. If GMK confirms that they already have that mold, then I'd much rather have that as well.  :thumb:
There are tonnes of dyesub and doubleshot OG Cherry boards in German layout, all of which have R5 1.5 Alt Gr.

Sweet, a 1.5u Alt Gr was always the plan!

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 07 June 2019, 23:54:42 »
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

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good change, nice

I don't really have an opinion on alt vs alt gr

to confirm, are both colourways one kit or are they separate?

They'll be in one kit. Might be difficult hitting MOQ if split. And I'm assuming most people who are interested in this own or would want to own these colorways  :)

Add two 1u diamond-legend keys in R5 and the kit in the first post is perfect imo. I've read there are no molds for 1.25u in R5, but I can be wrong.

Pls no diamond keys, they look terrible in contrast to the other text legends. They belong in an icon modifier pack imo.

Liking the additions so far, especially the 1.5 fn.

Lol, no diamond icons.

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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 00:04:25 »
Update 06/07/19: Updated the kit for modern sets, adding support for 65%, some 75% (not including the top R0), and 1800. There are currently 78 keys total. The goal is to keep caps to the minimum while offering maximum compatibility.

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Yikes!  Hope it doesn't become too expensive!

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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 02:41:36 »
Please include ALT GR. Mixing a new set from GMK with old keys from old Cherry boards does not look nice. Also, the WoB sets that are being sold today use WS1 as white instead of L9 or what the old sets used.

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Icon mods? ;D

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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 12:12:40 »
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 16:26:07 »
Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

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« Reply #46 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 20:16:02 »
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

Did you mean bottom row Icon mods? If so, I don't think I'd want to go that route :) It'd be difficult to create another kit and hit MOQ for that.

Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

I was heavily considering Dolch as well, but adding that would bring the kit up to 113 keys :(

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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 21:27:56 »
Rough estimate on pricing?  It might be worthwhile to get some community feedback in advance.

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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 21:58:19 »
Icon mods? ;D

pls no

If it's going to be on a different set with a different MOQ, I don't see why not. It's only a suggestion so I'm fine either way

Did you mean bottom row Icon mods? If so, I don't think I'd want to go that route :) It'd be difficult to create another kit and hit MOQ for that.

Yes please! N9/CC for Dolch would even be better

I was heavily considering Dolch as well, but adding that would bring the kit up to 113 keys :(

Needs Dolch regardless of price.

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Re: [IC] R0 // R5 Modern Compatibility Kit for Classic Sets
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 23:29:45 »
Rough estimate on pricing?  It might be worthwhile to get some community feedback in advance.

GMK still hasn't gotten back to me on pricing, I'll give it a couple days to follow up.