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Offline fropsie

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[IC] Koala Switches
« on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:22:29 »
The Koala Switch

The koala switch, designed by creator biip, is a tactile switch using a POM stem and 62g gold spring inside a Nylon housing, with a color scheme matching that of Extended 2048.
First run of the group buy will be limited to 150 orders with an MOQ of 10,000 Switches sold, and if enough interest is generated, more runs will be launched in the future.
Switches will be produced by durock.
This IC has been authorized by biip



















Interest Check - https://forms.gle/UmXCZFGm5FkCBhDY9

When will the GB Launch: TBA (Would like to run IC first to then make a decision)


Order Quantities: Minimum Order Quantity is 70 Switches per order.


Pricing: Current pricing is planned for $0.48 per switch, but is subject to change based on reception.


Shipping: Will Ship out 8-12 weeks after all invoices are paid.



« Last Edit: Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:37:57 by fropsie »

Offline biip

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:25:55 »
🐨

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:27:51 »
Thanks, I'm in.

Offline nasp

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:34:52 »
Can you explain more about the switch? What's the tactility like compared to other switches? Is this a Panda clone? Manufacturer?

Offline Walkerstop

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:38:43 »
Looks cool, interested.

What will the tops say on them?  (not KBDFans I'm guessing)

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:40:05 »
Koala's are back!?!
After getting the time to mess with the T1s, are the tolerances still gonna be kinda poopy? T1s had a TON of wobble from inbetween the top and bottom housing, and needed films desperately. Hoping these are more tight!
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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 16:40:24 »
Interested  ;D

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:00:10 »
nice
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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:04:36 »
yes

Offline kgorin

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:25:01 »
who's the manufacturer? same as T1?

Offline PikaJoyce

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:34:51 »
who's the manufacturer? same as T1?
Curious about this as well.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:35:16 »
I'm in  :)

Offline KickDrumsandRedWine

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:41:36 »
I'm down for a new tactile switch for my next build

Offline Popopro

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:44:54 »
Will kbdfans be handling the buy like last time?

Offline EMC Labs

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:48:46 »
Thank you, I'm also in.

Offline dnmtbr

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 18:33:00 »
Durock is selling these on Alibaba right now.

Offline djmantis

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 18:35:43 »
I am interested. I didn't know these were already on sale on Alibaba, just in different spring weights.

Offline phunktional

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 18:36:29 »
Interested

Offline Loligagger

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 18:49:08 »
Color me interested.

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 19:03:53 »
Iím in  ;D Also, could you please describe a bit of the tactility and feel of the switch you expect them to be?
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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 19:09:54 »
Linear version when?

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 20:43:35 »
Definitely interested!
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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 21:14:09 »
Interested!

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Offline leexy

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 21:42:16 »
interested

Offline Lil

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 22:02:34 »
Int

Offline HoodrowThrillson

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 22:26:59 »
Guess I gotta buy some.
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Offline DasGnome

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 22:53:21 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:02:29 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:06:38 »
shieeet
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Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:12:34 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
Either way, weren't the t1s great switches? No matter which way you want to interpret the drama, the switches were good. If that's the case, then why should I, as a consumer, care either way about the ethics of the manufacturer as long as they produce a quality, affordable switch?

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:19:01 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/cu59t1/ic_koala_switches/

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:58:56 »
was sad the first run got cancelled, interested.

Offline nguyenhimself

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 22 August 2019, 23:59:52 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
Either way, weren't the t1s great switches? No matter which way you want to interpret the drama, the switches were good. If that's the case, then why should I, as a consumer, care either way about the ethics of the manufacturer as long as they produce a quality, affordable switch?
It depends on whether you want to support a bad actor, who had no problem stealing designs from other people giving them zero payment or credit.
I mean, "as a consumer", you can do a lot of stuffs that benefit you but hurt others. If a thief is selling you a laptop you know he stole from someone, would you still buy it?
You're free to be selfish. But sometimes it's nice to be selfless too.
« Last Edit: Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:02:04 by nguyenhimself »

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:11:22 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
Either way, weren't the t1s great switches? No matter which way you want to interpret the drama, the switches were good. If that's the case, then why should I, as a consumer, care either way about the ethics of the manufacturer as long as they produce a quality, affordable switch?
It depends on whether you want to support a bad actor, who had no problem stealing designs from other people giving them zero payment or credit.
I mean, "as a consumer", you can do a lot of stuffs that benefit you but hurt others. If a thief is selling you a laptop you know he stole from someone, would you still buy it?
You're free to be selfish. But sometimes it's nice to be selfless too.

imagine copying a switch design and selling it.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:13:21 »
Interested

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 00:25:57 »
OP has stated on Reddit that this is the same manufacturer as T1. This is an important point depending on your interpretation of the stealios fiasco.
Either way, weren't the t1s great switches? No matter which way you want to interpret the drama, the switches were good. If that's the case, then why should I, as a consumer, care either way about the ethics of the manufacturer as long as they produce a quality, affordable switch?
It depends on whether you want to support a bad actor, who had no problem stealing designs from other people giving them zero payment or credit.
I mean, "as a consumer", you can do a lot of stuffs that benefit you but hurt others. If a thief is selling you a laptop you know he stole from someone, would you still buy it?
You're free to be selfish. But sometimes it's nice to be selfless too.

imagine copying a switch design and selling it.
Lol seriously. My dollar goes to the goes to the best product at the best price. IP isn't a laptop. My ethics are tied to my wallet, just like the people 'stealing' IP, and just like the people getting upset about their IP getting 'stolen'.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 02:38:50 »
I think also offering the 67g spring would be great.

Offline King4477

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:57:38 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Offline kgorin

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 07:54:37 »
Quote
why should I, as a consumer, care either way about the ethics of the manufacturer as long as they produce a quality, affordable switch?
wow, just wow

Offline nyry43

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:07:27 »
These look neat. Looking forward to more info on them.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:14:03 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:17:17 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.
But muh ethix

Offline DasGnome

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:35:30 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.

I don't think anyone gives a **** about using the design like all other MX switches. A manufacturer knowingly produced and sold counterfeits. That's just outright deception.

Offline KaosJ

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:42:09 »
I would be in

Offline King4477

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:58:07 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.

I don't think anyone gives a **** about using the design like all other MX switches. A manufacturer knowingly produced and sold counterfeits. That's just outright deception.

My point exactly. Thereís a big difference between using a design from an expired MX patent after a lawful period of exclusivity, and making and selling counterfeit products.

If I were Zeal and I had an idea that might bloom into the next big thing, I might think twice about spending any effort in R&D or ever releasing it since some con-artist company might just copy it, sell it as its own and get away with it. Long run, supporting fraudsters undermines everyoneís best interests.

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:11:40 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.

I don't think anyone gives a **** about using the design like all other MX switches. A manufacturer knowingly produced and sold counterfeits. That's just outright deception.

My point exactly. Thereís a big difference between using a design from an expired MX patent after a lawful period of exclusivity, and making and selling counterfeit products.

If I were Zeal and I had an idea that might bloom into the next big thing, I might think twice about spending any effort in R&D or ever releasing it since some con-artist company might just copy it, sell it as its own and get away with it. Long run, supporting fraudsters undermines everyoneís best interests.

But that wasn't your point at all when you said this:

Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.
Counterfeiting is being deceptive and selling a product that isn't what you say it is, which is bad and ACTUALLY terrible for the consumer... but that isn't the same as selling a copy of a switch, calling it something else, and doing so at a lower price than the original.

Offline lac29

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:14:07 »
I'm interested and also am someone who prefers 65-70g springs if they are an option.

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:21:34 »
Seems like this could be a koala-tee switch.

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:27:28 »
Seems like this could be a koala-tee switch.
Oh no...

Offline King4477

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Re: [IC] Koala Switches
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:38:19 »
Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.

Let's not turn this into a stolen switch design **** show. Every switch out today is a blatant copy of another switch; tweaked design or not.

If you would like to pay a premium for certain switches, so be it. Many of us would like to see these switches get made regardless of who manufacturers them.

I don't think anyone gives a **** about using the design like all other MX switches. A manufacturer knowingly produced and sold counterfeits. That's just outright deception.

My point exactly. Thereís a big difference between using a design from an expired MX patent after a lawful period of exclusivity, and making and selling counterfeit products.

If I were Zeal and I had an idea that might bloom into the next big thing, I might think twice about spending any effort in R&D or ever releasing it since some con-artist company might just copy it, sell it as its own and get away with it. Long run, supporting fraudsters undermines everyoneís best interests.

But that wasn't your point at all when you said this:

Supporting those who take advantage of or outright steal from other creators in a small market is a great way to stymie future developments, since the creators of new designs will have lower incentives to spend their time and money making something that can just be ripped off without repercussions. That ultimately means fewer and worse options for the consumer.

If you like this hobby, you donít support its bad actors.
Counterfeiting is being deceptive and selling a product that isn't what you say it is, which is bad and ACTUALLY terrible for the consumer... but that isn't the same as selling a copy of a switch, calling it something else, and doing so at a lower price than the original.

Agreed... sorry for the nuanced argument, let me help spell it out:

Counterfeiting = bad
People who counterfeit = counterfeiters
Supporting counterfeiters when they come out with ďnewĒ designs gives the counterfeiter more $ and perpetuates their bad actions = bad
More counterfeiter bad actions = less innovation by others = bad

Sorry again for the big words. Hope this makes sense.