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[IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:08:41 »
Hi

Had an idea, I wanna do some WoB Alps-mount caps in DCS profile by Signature Plastics. I've been in contact with Melissa over there about them, and I'm working on figuring out kits. I'd like to eventually do a beige-based set, gonna send some GMK 9009 caps over to SP so they can give me some good color chip recs so I don't have to buy 50 different ones.

The challenges atm are if I want to split out random stuff like ISO, Bottom row stuff (like a Tsangan/WKL + AEK + HHKB bottom row kit), 40's (pictured below) etc. so please give me input on what would actually be worth covering.

latest update (June 11, 2020):

so I talked to SP. here are the updates:

- they only have MX stabilizer stem, Alps switch stem caps. so there won't be any option for Alps/Costar stab inserts.
- pricing seems good, a base kit would be about ~$120 USD.
- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set. Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

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Current kit sheets as far as I can figure out so far:

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spacebar and 40's


Legends would be the classic DCS ones, like this:


afaik they only have MX-mount stab mounting, but I can ask if they have the classic alps style too.

tyvm, lmk what else would be worth doing.
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:09:03 »
Yes, please!

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:09:27 »
praise ****ing jesus

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:10:32 »
100% behind this! Thanks Hiney!

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:11:00 »
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:11:39 »
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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:12:25 »
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:16:17 »
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:19:04 »
R3 1u Ctrl in 40s kit please

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:32:21 »
I'm down for some more WoB
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:33:13 »
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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:35:15 »
alps is ****

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:36:02 »
alps is ****

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No u


Wait...

I'm interested. Anyway.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:36:20 »
alps is ****

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[IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:48:34 »
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:51:11 »
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?

yep, one step at a time. I'd like to start with the classics as I figure they'd sell pretty well and they're easy to adapt to the platform.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:53:50 »
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?
We got DCS Alps Yuri in October too homie

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:01:02 »
you already know I'm in for this

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:02:53 »
I'm in... twice at least.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:03:47 »
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:08:30 »
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?

At this point I've been informed that these all use MX stab inserts. Sort of a pain, working with some people to see if we can get MX-alps stab inserts made or what other options could be.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:19:52 »
Definitely in for this.


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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:22:24 »
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?

At this point I've been informed that these all use MX stab inserts. Sort of a pain, working with some people to see if we can get MX-alps stab inserts made or what other options could be.
Matias sells some alps plate to mx cap wires.
Not the best quality but they work.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:53:15 »
Get this set in high gear I am all in

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:05:47 »
>40% kit

I'm all in

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:34:23 »
Yup yup yup.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:51:04 »
Yes, unfortunately we still have this whole stabilizer issue.  I think the best bet is to just have custom boards with alps switch cutouts and cherry PCB stabilizer cutouts.  Unfortunately, this doesn't do a lot to help out with coverage on old boards. 

Any consideration about the style of alps stem used?  I know the Alps Throwback set used the 1Z mount and it was "said" to work better.  (no need to shave super tight stems or worry about them breaking off in the switch)

Also, ima need to pick up some more of those NoS yellow alps b/c they rock.

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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:02:48 »
Hi thanks

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:18:27 »
Yes. In for at least one kit. Spacebars and 40 kit would be a nice plus, but certainly not a necessity. 7u space would be awesome.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 02:15:11 »
Donr mind if spacebar use mx style mount but please make the >2u mod use Alps style stabilizer
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:16:03 »
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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:59:40 »
Yes please.

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 08:20:02 »
Yes, please make this.  ;D

I like the kits. No need to split them up more imo. For me, HHKB and Tsangan-support is what I need for buying the set.

Is the 6u space center stem?

I question the 6.5u space, is it compatible with AEK? If not, we could skip that?
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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 08:54:32 »
Convex keycaps for the spacebars kit would be amazing, as would be a colevrak kit too

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 09:40:31 »
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?
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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:15:21 »
I'm pretty sure I've seen inserts for Alps-stabilisers into MX stems on a 3D-printing site somewhere, but I forgot to bookmark it. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post a link.
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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:30:23 »
This is nice

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:19:00 »
I'm totally in

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:19:20 »
Interested!

I'm pretty sure I've seen inserts for Alps-stabilisers into MX stems on a 3D-printing site somewhere, but I forgot to bookmark it. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post a link.

nubbinator worked on stab inserts to go with his MX to ALPS adapters - it may be a corresponding height though

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:34:36 »
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable
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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 17:40:46 »
Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 18:59:16 »
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable

logical MOQ is 100 because I can make the set like $165. Might aim for 200 tho bc then it'd be $125

Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 19:09:36 »
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable

logical MOQ is 100 because I can make the set like $165. Might aim for 200 tho bc then it'd be $125

Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 19:28:52 »
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks. 

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 09:09:31 »
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks. 

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 15:40:26 »
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks.

Not sure but I can check.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 16:19:59 »
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks.

Not sure but I can check.

I can't speak for the effectiveness of the 1z mount, but what I read about it seems positive.  I bought a set of Alps Throwback to be delivered with my Modern M0110, but yeah... we all know how that Group Buy is doing.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:01:56 »
100% in for this one. I definitely prefer MX stab mounts over OG Alps style.

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:06:47 »
AEK, please! There aren't any good dark AEK-compatible keycap sets, and only a handful of Alps-mount keycap sets, period, so I'm definitely in.
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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 30 August 2019, 20:04:42 »
100% in for this one. I definitely prefer MX stab mounts over OG Alps style.

Same here. I am in for one set.