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[GB] GMK Dracula (CLOSED) — In color matching phase
« on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:54:11 »
$ gmk install -g @dracula/core-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/highlight-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/nightmode-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/whitespace-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/minify-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/localization-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/command-module

$ gmk install -g @dracula/err-module

$ gmk run deploy

> Starting 'deploy' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/master.tar.gz
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> Initializing GB ...



Welcome to the GMK Dracula group buy thread! ▓▒░

Introducing GMK Dracula, a keyset based on the glorious Dracula Theme color-scheme. GMK Dracula turns the software aesthetic into keyboard keyset form, expanding the theme even further with add-on modules. The set features dark greyish blue tones with dark blue-purple-gray alphas. The default legend color is a contrasting neutral/cool white, which adds to the overall legibility of the classic text + icon legends. In addition, the Core and add-on modules include legends and accent keys in various pastel and neon colors, all based on selected Dracula Theme colors.





> Setting up proxies ...
> Proxy set to 'Dixie Mech' ...

▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ GB_INFO.txt ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
├── GB_vendors/
│ └── proxy_list/
│     ├── NA - Dixie Mech [link]
│     ├── EU - Mykeyboard.eu [link]
│     ├── Oceania/Asia - Daily Clack [link]
│     └── China/Asia - iLumkb [link]
└── GB_date/
    ├── Group Buy - October 4th – 31st
    └── Approximate shipping -
Q2 2020





Modules

Core【 MODULE】

The Core Module is the starting point of the set, featuring classic multicolored syntax highlighting of the Dracula Theme. The module offers compatibility for most layouts, while keeping the cost down by not bloating the kit with too much options.



5 new keys included @1500 orders! R2 Home, R3 1.75u stepped Control, R3 1u Code, Home, and End keys.



Highlight【 MODULE】

Spice up your set with fully colored accent keys for extra highlighting, featuring cherry-picked theme colors.





Nightmode【 MODULE】

If you enjoy a CLEAN look, it's time to turn on the nightmode for GMK Dracula.
Tone down the look of your set with a unified modifier color-scheme with the Nightmode Module.





Whitespace【 MODULE】

Whether you like to use spaces or tabs for indentation, that's up to you …
Here's some whitespace inserting blocks for everyone to use, including accent colored ones.





Minify【 MODULE】

Here it is! The ultimate kit for 40%, ortholinear, and split layout keyboards. But wait, there's more! Even a second B key is included in case your dog eats the other one.





Localization【 MODULE】

Language support for Nordic (Danish, Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian), German, and UK layouts.





Command【 MODULE】

What did you think it was going to be called? Support for macOS specific keys. Starting at $999.





> 'deploy' encountered an error after 120 ms

> gmk ERR! Error: Fatal: access denied
> gmk ERR! @dracula/err-module not found

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├── IC/
│ └── GMK_modules/
│     ├── core-module
│     ├── highlight-module
│     ├── nightmode-module
│     ├── whitespace-module
│     ├── minify-module
│     ├── localization-module
│         └── EU.eww
│     ├── command-module
│     └── err-module/
│         └── vim-arrows
├── .ic.config
├── .ne-iso.avail
├── .ne-icon-mods.avail
├── FAQ
└── __feedback__/
    └── form



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==================================



ERR!【 MODULE】

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Deprecated Module Versions:
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RAMA Keycaps

  • Finish: Lightly Bead Blasted + Anodized/E-White processed + Laser Etched + Enamel Fill (colors matched to keyset colors)
  • Profile: Cherry Profile - Escape Row (R1)
  • Stem Type: Cherry MX

GMK Dracula x RAMA — Eye, Aluminum E-White + Dark Blue Gray Enamel Fill



GMK Dracula x RAMA — ERR!, Aluminum Anodizing + Dark Blue Gray Enamel Fill



Deskmats

Dracula Eye & ERR! Deskmats

  • Size: 900x400x4mm
  • Rubber bottom
  • Stitched edges
  • Cloth top




> Starting subtask 'rebuild' ...
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> Starting subtask 'renders' ...



Renders

Bauer by Dixie Mech

Album with all the Bauer renders: https://imgur.com/a/QURe7BY



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TGR Alice




TGR Jane V2 CE







TGR-910


More





Album with all the TGR renders: https://imgur.com/a/Kk1WKmF

'Wickle Tickle'

board and renders by Kingk22


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More renders coming soon …





Colors

The colors are to be matched as close to the Dracula Theme colors as possible using custom colors, the base colors are very dark grayish blue. A GMK stock color may be used for the white alpha legend color.
The plan is to match the colors to Pantones first, then order plastic color chips, which GMK can then match their plastics to. I think this method allows for a great range of colors to choose from, but still retains the color matching accuracy with plastic chips from Pantone.

A color comparison with other popular/similar GMK sets:

▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ COLOR_COMPARISON.md ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓
├── The colors are represented as accurately as possible using the correct color codes, using neutral lighting.
└── The second version has a neutral background color instead of a stylized one for an even more accurate comparison, as perception of color is relative to the surroundings after all.





Gloomy Colors™


┌───────────┬──────────┬─────────────┬───────────────┬───┐
│   Color   │   Hex    │     RGB     │      HSL      │   │
├───────────┼──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────┼───┤
│ Modifiers │ #282a36  │    40 42 54 │ 231° 15% 18%  │
│ Alphas    │ #44475a  │    68 71 90 │ 232° 14% 31%  │
│ Legends   │ #f8f8f2  │ 248 248 242 │ 60° 30% 96%   │
│           │          │             │               │   │
│ Pink      │ #ff79c6  │ 255 121 198 │ 326° 100% 74% │
│ Purple    │ #bd93f9  │ 189 147 249 │ 265° 89% 78%  │
│ Cyan      │ #8be9fd  │ 139 233 253 │ 191° 97% 77%  │
│ Yellow    │ #f1fa8c  │ 241 250 140 │ 65° 92% 76%   │
│ Green     │ #50fa7b  │  80 250 123 │ 135° 94% 65%  │
│ Red       │ #ff5555  │   255 85 85 │ 0° 100% 67%   │
└───────────┴──────────┴─────────────┴───────────────┴───┘





FAQ

> ne icon mods avail
> At least not in the base kit





Changelog



┌─────────────────────────────────────────┬──────────────┬────────┐
│                 Commit                  │     Date     │ Branch │
├─────────────────────────────────────────┼──────────────┼────────┤
│ feature: added color comparison         │ [2019-06-08] │ master │
│ feature: announced vendors              │ [2019-05-30] │ master │
│ feature: added feedback form            │ [2019-05-22] │ master │
│ fix: added Full HHKB layout support     │ [2019-05-22] │ master │
│ (2x R4 1u Ctrl/Alt + 2x R4 1.5u Super)  │              │        │
│ feature: added initial IC               │ [2019-05-15] │ master │
└─────────────────────────────────────────┴──────────────┴────────┘

More
  • Added color comparison [2019-06-08]
  • Announced vendors [2019-05-30]
  • Added feedback form [2019-05-22]
  • Added full HHKB layout support (2x R4 1u Ctrl/Alt + 2x R4 1.5u Super) [2019-05-22]
  • Added initial IC [2019-05-15]





TODO
  • More renders!




Acknowledgements
  • Huge thanks to Oblotzky for advice and suggestions regarding the kits and everything else.
  • Shout-out to Qlavier for feedback on the project!
  • Big thank you to Dixie for everything!
  • Thank you Yuktsi for providing the TGR board models for rendering
  • Thank you Kingk22 for the 'Tickle Wickle' renders



All the renders, kit designs, novelties and graphics are done by me, if not stated otherwise.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:54:29 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:28:19 »
Approved! :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:34:26 »
Is there a price adjustment according to Moq?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:59:33 »
I'm so excited to get my hands on this. Dracula theme is the best :)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:08:26 »
Considering the amount of GMK Sets running the past months, when is this expected to be produced? I am wondering, how long does it take GMK to produce one group buy run? :)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:21:46 »
This is one of the best executed ICs/GBs I've seen in ages. Best of luck, altho I'm sure you won't need it!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:56:57 »
Already in. Very well done Pikku, can't wait to see this set crush it!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:12:41 »
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but where exactly is the link to buy it?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:21:18 »
https://dixiemech.store/products/gmk-dracula

in for base, nightmode and err. can't wait

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:27:45 »

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:48:47 »
this is the cool version of Dolch, fight me! :eek:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 19:58:17 »
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but where exactly is the link to buy it?

Oops, added the links now.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:26:03 »
Stupid question but can someone tell me how purple the alphas are? I'm slightly colourblind and there's a range where I know I may have an issue but I (obviously) can't tell if it's really, really blue/grey or actually quite purple.

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:25:21 »
Stupid question but can someone tell me how purple the alphas are? I'm slightly colourblind and there's a range where I know I may have an issue but I (obviously) can't tell if it's really, really blue/grey or actually quite purple.

I would say it has a very slight purple tint- but definitely still gray!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 22:43:22 »
Already put in my order at DailyClack for base, err, nightmode, and highlight 👍

I know I said this in Discord already but I think alphas + err + nightmode is going to be a very popular combo - perhaps if this runs again that could be made into a second base kit?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 23:15:19 »
Already put in my order at DailyClack for base, err, nightmode, and highlight 👍

I know I said this in Discord already but I think alphas + err + nightmode is going to be a very popular combo - perhaps if this runs again that could be made into a second base kit?

I definitely added those and Norde to my cart before balking at $300+

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 08:46:25 »
In for base and accent! Woot! Set of the year imo!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 10:38:33 »
congrats on the massive day 1!

https://www.facebook.com/dixiemech/photos/a.321006258330250/774999656264239/?type=3

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 12:49:19 »
Love this colourway and the whole presentation of it. First GMK kit I’m going in on for ages. Considering not getting nightmode but then I remember how I didn’t get mono mods in Oblivion and ended up spending ages trying to get them aftermarket for a decent price/trade. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. GLWGB.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 00:32:39 »
congrats on the massive day 1!
More
https://www.facebook.com/dixiemech/photos/a.321006258330250/774999656264239/?type=3

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 08:57:29 »
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 10:06:28 »
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.

I’m sure I’m not the only person interested in ERR who wouldn’t want the f13 key? Can you split with someone on your side of the Atlantic?
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 11:13:16 »
Just noticed the ERR module's MOQ is 250. Is that because of the custom legends?
That set is like one huge novelty kit, huh?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:00:45 »
Just noticed the ERR module's MOQ is 250. Is that because of the custom legends?
That set is like one huge novelty kit, huh?

Actual moq is 100. Ideal moq is 250

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Re: F13 key
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:20:35 »
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.

I can ship you mine from Ireland.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:26:48 »
I'm a simple man: I see a keyset that uses the same color scheme I've come to enjoy using in terminal and i3wm as well as vim style hjkl keys so I buy it.
People I've given money to from this webform who never respond to me and have not shipped me anything: ctrlalt.io, Team Readline Reputable alternatives to GH group buys: http://pimpmykeyboard.com, https://www.massdrop.com,

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:57:10 »
I'm a simple man: I see a keyset that uses the same color scheme I've come to enjoy using in terminal and i3wm as well as vim style hjkl keys so I buy it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:25:31 »
Love this colourway and the whole presentation of it. First GMK kit I’m going in on for ages. Considering not getting nightmode but then I remember how I didn’t get mono mods in Oblivion and ended up spending ages trying to get them aftermarket for a decent price/trade. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. GLWGB.

Crap now I'm worrying if I need those too.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 10:47:02 »
> Starting 'update' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
> [=============================] 100% 0.0s


> ERR! Error: outdated proxy numbers

░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ GB_STATUS.txt ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 423
│     ├── Highlight ---- 190
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 111
│     ├── Whitespace --- 112
│     ├── Minify -------- 57
│     ├──
Localization -- 21
│     ├── Command ------- 54
│     └── ERR! --------- 197

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 7th [2019-10-07]


Amazing numbers in the first few days!
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 12:08:46 »
> Starting 'update' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
> [=============================] 100% 0.0s


> ERR! Error: outdated proxy numbers

░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ GB_STATUS.txt ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 423
│     ├── Highlight ---- 190
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 111
│     ├── Whitespace --- 112
│     ├── Minify -------- 57
│     ├──
Localization -- 21
│     ├── Command ------- 54
│     └── ERR! --------- 197

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 7th [2019-10-07]


Amazing numbers in the first few days!

unreal. glad to be a part of it  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 14:59:02 »
More
> Starting 'update' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
> [=============================] 100% 0.0s


> ERR! Error: outdated proxy numbers

░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ GB_STATUS.txt ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 423
│     ├── Highlight ---- 190
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 111
│     ├── Whitespace --- 112
│     ├── Minify -------- 57
│     ├──
Localization -- 21
│     ├── Command ------- 54
│     └── ERR! --------- 197

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 7th [2019-10-07]

Amazing numbers in the first few days!

Looks like we're gonna need a bigger graph...



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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:22:01 »
for the 2k goal there is gonna be a raffle for a free base kit or more keys in the kit eventually? anything in mind on that regard? thanks

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:06:49 »
Such fantastic numbers, truly one for history here!

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:07:59 »
Like the eponymous character, this set is a monster.

Anyone want Minify but not the 2.25u/2.75u split spacebars?

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Re: F13 key
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 17:54:52 »
50 euros just for the f13 key is going to hurt.

I can ship you mine from Ireland.

Thanks, i'll send you a message if i remember when we get the sets. I'm from Spain  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:41:56 »
Localisation kit is pretty pricey for just 4/5 keys I might use. Nearly 20 euros more than other GMK localisation kits?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:46:12 »
Localisation kit is pretty pricey for just 4/5 keys I might use. Nearly 20 euros more than other GMK localisation kits?

That's because the MOQ for that is only 50, which is achievable. No profit is being made from that kit either. You could always find someone who'd need other keys to split the kit with.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:27:21 »
In for Core, Nightmode, Highlight and Err. Super excited about this one. Great job on the IC/GB and excited to see how well this one does by the end.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 20:30:35 »
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak??? 😂

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 07:15:02 »
in for 1 of each, except localisation

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:28:50 »
this feels like armed robbery

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 10:08:52 »
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak??? 😂

If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:08:16 »
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 12:22:31 »
This set really grew on me the more I looked at it. I went from hard pass (never had a great affinity for blueish hues) to in on Core + Nightmode + Highlight + ERR!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:01:37 »
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.

The MOQ of 50 will be hard enough to reach as it is  :)) everyone who needs it should buy their own xD

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:08:55 »
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:17:47 »
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.
What locale are you in?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 15:58:04 »
> Starting 'update' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 569
│     ├── Highlight ---- 255
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 145
│     ├── Whitespace --- 154
│     ├── Minify -------- 79
│     ├──
Localization -- 28
│     ├── Command ------- 74
│     └── ERR! --------- 263

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 11th [2019-10-11]


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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:09:19 »
mama mia

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:24:32 »
Dixie, is this on track to outsell 8008? Or 9009? Congrats on having some giants these last few months.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 22:16:36 »
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> Starting 'update' ...
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 569
│     ├── Highlight ---- 255
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 145
│     ├── Whitespace --- 154
│     ├── Minify -------- 79
│     ├──
Localization -- 28
│     ├── Command ------- 74
│     └── ERR! --------- 263

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 11th [2019-10-11]


We are breaking records left and right!



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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 23:29:56 »
Dixie, is this on track to outsell 8008? Or 9009? Congrats on having some giants these last few months.

I'd say yes.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 23:34:42 »
Can we have more information on the Rama caps? Are the enamel infill black or matched to the keyset colours?

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 00:01:36 »
Neat! Thanks Dvorcol!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 04:19:41 »
Can we have more information on the Rama caps? Are the enamel infill black or matched to the keyset colours?

All the colors on the Rama caps are matched to the keyset colors (as close as possible). The enamel infill on the Eye is matched to the keyset modifier color.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 06:27:47 »
Anyone interested in splitting the Localization kit? Here's the keys I wouldn't need: https://imgur.com/a/1dhB4I4. Guess I could split the Highlight & Command kits too, I'd be happy with about 1/3 of the keys on those.
What locale are you in?
Finland

The MOQ of 50 will be hard enough to reach as it is  :)) everyone who needs it should buy their own xD
Yeah I guess so, I'm just finding it hard to justify spending 300€ and only using 30% of the caps :rolleyes:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:04:00 »
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???

If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.

the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+

also mt3 serika ran a colevrak+ kit and hit 70 with the 1500 alpha kits sold (if you include the katakana kit) 250% more than oblivion.

with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:47:17 »
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???

If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.

the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+. with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
People also forget the lost sales to people who would buy all of the other kits along side of colemak, but buy none because there is no support. Even if you only sell 20 colevrak kits, that could mean another 20 base + whatever kits those people buy.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 09:48:03 »
wait, GMK has MOQs less than 100? and we still couldn't have Colemak???

If you pool Git, regular, monochrome, and assembly, GMK oblivion sold 3000 kits, and colevrak sold 61 there. I think the 50 MOQ is still hard.

the colevrak kit that ran with oblivion only had support for colemak and dvorak. it's not going to do as well as a colevrak+ kit like the one that ran with pulse. Pulse sold 650 kits and 20 colevrak kits. that's 50% more when you do the math. oblivion could have gotten 90+. with this on pace for 1500 it'd be nice if we at least tried.
People also forget the lost sales to people who would buy all of the other kits along side of colemak, but buy none because there is no support. Even if you only sell 20 colevrak kits, that could mean another 20 base + whatever kits those people buy.

+20

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 18:26:15 »
How late can I change a shipping address? There'a chance I might move before it ships and that's worrying me a bit.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 19:13:01 »
Very interesting keyset design and renders are just nuts! I am considering to support this.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 19:43:18 »
What colour are the legends in the Highlight module?
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 20:04:21 »
What colour are the legends in the Highlight module?

All the colors are listed in the OP.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 21:14:50 »
congrats for such a great achievement made within 1 week

Is there any plan to add more keys for benefits for gb joiners ? as GMK Metropolis.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 23:00:00 »
Just some updated numbers for GH. All kits will be made, if it wasn’t already abundantly clear lol
No extras added.

Core: 747
Highlight: 338
Nightmode: 185
Whitespace: 198
ERR!: 341
Command: 89
Minify: 110
Localization: 36


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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 00:18:44 »
Just some updated numbers for GH. All kits will be made, if it wasn’t already abundantly clear lol
No extras added.
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Core: 747
Highlight: 338
Nightmode: 185
Whitespace: 198
ERR!: 341
Command: 89
Minify: 110
Localization: 36



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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:45:39 »
congrats for such a great achievement made within 1 week

Is there any plan to add more keys for benefits for gb joiners ? as GMK Metropolis.

Man I would love to have a "Hello, World!" key like Oblivion did. At least it fits with the software theme.

Also in for Base, Highlight, Darkmode and Space.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 18 October 2019, 13:16:00 »
Joined the GB, in for the Core, Highlight, and ERR!  Would love to see more dev, or Linux, or VIM related.  Nice work in creating such amazing kits!  Congrats on receiving so many orders so quickly!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 18 October 2019, 20:02:29 »
> Starting 'update' ...
> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
> [=============================] 100% 0.0s


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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 812
│     ├── Highlight ---- 359
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 192
│     ├── Whitespace --- 210
│     ├── Minify ------- 112
│     ├──
Localization -- 39
│     ├── Command ------- 93
│     └── ERR! --------- 355

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 18th [2019-10-18]


Week Two Update — Over 800 Core Modules Sold!


Thank you everyone! Seeing such overwhelming support, we might add some extra keys to the kit ;)


In the meantime, enjoy this brand new render of GMK Dracula on a shiny silver En Dash by would :cool:



Still almost two more weeks left to grab Dracula, the group buy ends Oct 31st!
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 19 October 2019, 02:15:57 »
More
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> Uploading: geekhack/group_buys/gmk-dracula/update.tar.gz
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core --------- 812
│     ├── Highlight ---- 359
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 192
│     ├── Whitespace --- 210
│     ├── Minify ------- 112
│     ├──
Localization -- 39
│     ├── Command ------- 93
│     └── ERR! --------- 355

└── GB_status_date/
  └── October 18th [2019-10-18]


Week Two Update — Over 800 Core Modules Sold!


Thank you everyone! Seeing such overwhelming support, we might add some extra keys to the kit ;)


In the meantime, enjoy this brand new render of GMK Dracula on a shiny silver En Dash by would :cool:

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Still almost two more weeks left to grab Dracula, the group buy ends Oct 31st!




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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:02:00 »
quite thread but gb is going well it looks like. I got the ERR! module because I think it will have its uses for me.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:16:24 »
What's the exact time the gb ends? I get paid on the 31st first thing in the morning pdt

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 24 October 2019, 10:46:53 »
Any updates to the GB numbers/graphs?

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 24 October 2019, 12:40:11 »
Any updates to the GB numbers/graphs?

Update tomorrow, the core module is just a handful away from 1000!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 24 October 2019, 19:17:43 »
Is there any plan to turn that poster into a high quality print? Would love to frame it and hang it on a wall!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 24 October 2019, 20:27:08 »
If we hit 1000kit, any plan to add some new key in base?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 24 October 2019, 23:56:45 »
If we hit 1000kit, any plan to add some new key in base?

GBs in the past have done this - it would be nice if it happened here. Especially since so many sets will be sold.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 25 October 2019, 15:40:20 »
GMK Dracula Week 3 Update
1000 Core Modules Sold!
ONE WEEK LEFT!


Current #’s w/o Extras
Core: 1033
Highlight: 463
Nightmode: 248
Whitespace: 273
ERR!: 443
Command: 119
Minify: 153
Localization: 46
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:22:42 »
GMK Dracula Week 3 Update
1000 Core Modules Sold!
ONE WEEK LEFT!

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Current #’s w/o Extras
Core: 1033
Highlight: 463
Nightmode: 248
Whitespace: 273
ERR!: 443
Command: 119
Minify: 153
Localization: 46



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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 25 October 2019, 19:45:25 »
So happy to be a part of this.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 00:53:12 »
Got mine ordered! Can't wait! This will be my first GMK keycap set. I have a MK Typist with Kailh box whites waiting for it. This is also really cool because I use the dracula theme for emacs and intellij =)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 01:12:48 »
I wish there were super and meta keys. Oh well, at least there are no windows keys.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 01:19:33 »
congrats for such a great achievement made within 1 week

Is there any plan to add more keys for benefits for gb joiners ? as GMK Metropolis.

Man I would love to have a "Hello, World!" key like Oblivion did. At least it fits with the software theme.

Also in for Base, Highlight, Darkmode and Space.

"Hello, World!" would be really cool!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:31:35 »
+1 for Hello, World!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 26 October 2019, 12:51:26 »
just came here to compliment the coder

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 17:20:51 »
Ordered today! My first GB that I've followed through geekhack, really excited for this set! Bought one of the Core, Highlight, and Localisation. Now to settle on the right switches and case.  :D

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #88 on: Mon, 28 October 2019, 18:10:57 »
Hey everyone!

We are excited to announce that we will be adding 5 keys to the GMK Dracula Core Module at 1500 customer orders! We are currently over 1100!



GB open for three more days, until October 31st!
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 08:03:03 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, stepped control users, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Timothy 1:5)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #90 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:11:37 »
just to have a reference, what did they add for GMK bento and GMK motropolis?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #91 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:25:14 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

For me stepped caps is an aesthetic thing. If definitely is less optimal but in practice I do not notice the difference after adjusting to it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #92 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 09:50:05 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

You know, they didn’t have to include any extra keys. Don’t act so entitled.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #93 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:11:12 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #94 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:14:17 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, stepped control users, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Timothy 1:5)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #95 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:18:04 »
just to have a reference, what did they add for GMK bento and GMK motropolis?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #96 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:28:33 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.
Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #97 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:42:59 »
no additional keys added would be better than useless added  :p
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:43:56 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but

Another example that “I don’t want to seem THAT THING but...” is always immediately followed by THAT THING.

I for one would love the stepped Ctrl cap because it’s perfect for my G80-11900.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:49:37 »
It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.
Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.
Amen! Thank you for saying that my friend. Way too many people here seem to disagree sadly  :(
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, stepped control users, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (2 Timothy 1:5)

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live!
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 20:43:53 »
Don't want to be a negative nancy but I'm not excited by the "bonus" keycaps. What's the point of a stepped control key? Afaik the caps lock is stepped so it becomes harder to press it by accident. This also makes it harder to reach though. If I have CTRL mapped there, this is counterintuitive. And I guess the other keys are for a 65%? Whatever.

They added something for free that you don't need, how terrible this world has become.
It's not only that I have no need for it, I think the concept of a stepped CTRL is wrong.
Yes, these blasphemous heathens and their mortal sin of stepped control. They will burn in the deepest depths of hell for their transgression against divine law.

i'm thinking of using stepped ctrl on my kn2.10²  :p

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live! 2 days left!
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 15:19:59 »
I do hope this gets offered for a second round again in the future.
There's just no way I am going to be able to swing this purchase right now. 
Great set!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live! 2 days left!
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 30 October 2019, 16:28:06 »
I do hope this gets offered for a second round again in the future.
There's just no way I am going to be able to swing this purchase right now. 
Great set!

Luckily for you it doesn't seem like a set that'll terribly difficult to hunt down on the aftermarket due to the sheer amount. :D

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live! Last day to order!
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 31 October 2019, 12:59:09 »
Having spent the whole month adding sets to my basket and removing them I finally crumbled and went for core + localization. Excited for my first GB.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy is live! Last day to order!
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 31 October 2019, 18:13:01 »
We have surpassed 1500 orders and the extra keys will be added to the Core Module! Last chance to grab a set!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended for ONE MORE DAY!
« Reply #105 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 15:54:22 »
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├── GB_units_ordered/
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│     ├── Core -------- 1973
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Nightmode ---- 428
│     ├── Whitespace --- 440
│     ├── Minify ------- 246
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└── GB_status_date/
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One last chance to grab Dracula! GB extended for ONE MORE DAY! Ends tonight, November 1st — Almost 2000 Core Modules Sold!


Absolutely bonkers you guys! Thank you so much everyone, you're amazing! :)


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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended for ONE MORE DAY!
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 01 November 2019, 18:49:51 »
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies/
│     ├── Core -------- 1973
│     ├── Highlight ---- 773
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 428
│     ├── Whitespace --- 440
│     ├── Minify ------- 246
│     ├──
Localization -- 83
│     ├── Command ------ 161
│     └── ERR! --------- 740

└── GB_status_date/
  └── November 1st [2019-11-01]


One last chance to grab Dracula! GB extended for ONE MORE DAY! Ends tonight, November 1st — Almost 2000 Core Modules Sold!


Absolutely bonkers you guys! Thank you so much everyone, you're amazing! :)


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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended; Ends tonight! LAST CHANCE!
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 09:30:16 »
So close to 2000, wow.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended; Ends tonight! LAST CHANCE!
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 09:40:01 »
Nooooooooooooooo I missed it by a day dangit !

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended; Ends tonight! LAST CHANCE!
« Reply #109 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 10:15:47 »
Nooooooooooooooo I missed it by a day dangit !

gb is still open
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy extended; Ends tonight! LAST CHANCE!
« Reply #110 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 11:31:51 »
Congrats Pikku-allu! Insane numbers. I believe this is the highest selling non-MD set ever, unless I'm missing something.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #111 on: Sat, 02 November 2019, 20:55:42 »
What's the final count? 2000?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #112 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 12:35:00 »
What's the final count? 2000?

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Over 2k! We're announcing numbers later when we have the final count. Thank you so much everyone!
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 13:31:59 »
Really excited for this and gz on the wonderful gb

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 03 November 2019, 15:42:15 »
Can’t wait to get my set, got a cable ordered for it already :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 05 November 2019, 07:33:13 »
My first GB and first GMK set. Can't wait!


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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 05 November 2019, 08:23:50 »
2k?! DAMN
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Group buy closed
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 13:37:00 »
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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies including extras/
│     ├── Core -------- 3006 (2068 customer orders)
│     ├── Highlight --- 1223
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 797
│     ├── Whitespace --- 652
│     ├── Minify ------- 353
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Localization - 117
│     ├── Command ------ 260
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└── GB_status_date/
  └── November 2nd [2019-11-02] [FINAL]


The final numbers are here at last — 3000 Core Modules including extras!


No, that is not a typo. I'm at loss for words. Thank you everyone, I can't wait to see Dracula in use!

Some more good news, the color matching is under way. We have been hard at work for a long time already, and not to worry, we're not matching colors in bedroom lighting.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 14:37:45 »
fml. now gmk will be held up for ages doing this one :D

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├── GB_units_ordered/
│ └── All proxies including extras/
│     ├── Core -------- 3006 (2068 customer orders)
│     ├── Highlight --- 1223
│     ├──
Nightmode ---- 797
│     ├── Whitespace --- 652
│     ├── Minify ------- 353
│     ├──
Localization - 117
│     ├── Command ------ 260
│     └── ERR! -------- 1167

└── GB_status_date/
  └── November 2nd [2019-11-02] [FINAL]


The final numbers are here at last — 3000 Core Modules including extras!


No, that is not a typo. I'm at loss for words. Thank you everyone, I can't wait to see Dracula in use!

Some more good news, the color matching is under way. We have been hard at work for a long time already, and not to worry, we're not matching colors in bedroom lighting.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 16:26:45 »
Nice numbers

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 18:50:07 »
Those numbers are incredibly impressive. Congrats on the GB :thumb:

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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:15:46 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

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« Reply #123 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:25:24 »
Congratulations on achieving 3K sales on base kit.
"Error kit" also exceeded 1K sales, so do you have any plans to add a red Enter key in "Error kit" to celebrate?

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« Reply #124 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:26:00 »
So what doeas the final base kit with all the extra keys look like? Oh and will there be any extra keys in the child kits? There were 1k highlight kits sold!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #125 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:26:11 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

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« Reply #126 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:38:54 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 20:55:59 »
So what doeas the final base kit with all the extra keys look like? Oh and will there be any extra keys in the child kits? There were 1k highlight kits sold!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 21:22:10 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 21:42:39 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 12 November 2019, 22:24:55 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

dvorcol is actually right

some ICs have just been going on for an age, it's not the only indicator of how well a set will sell

and some sets don't even run ICs anymore, and they sell fine

it's hard to predict
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« Reply #131 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 10:46:25 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

Offline ConfuseBill

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:21:32 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

Well, that's what a premium hobby is all about.
Enthusiast are seeking the Hype, Color matching, Something rare, One time production and maybe Hard to get.
No one is forcing these enthusiast to join the GB.
Have seen many GB fails because does not met Minimum quantity as well for no specific reason.

There are plenty other option of Low Price ABS keycaps off the shelf with nice colors too.
It's just a preference for this hobby.

Stay Calm and Keep Clacking.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:30:00 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.

Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.

Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.

But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.

Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?

I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.

If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.

That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:39:27 »
lol

"spirit of group buys"

lol

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 22:41:24 »
lol

"the current system works too good for the vendors."

lol

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 13 November 2019, 23:28:13 »


I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.

Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.

Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.

But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.

Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?

I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.

If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.

That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.

let them make fun of you for 2 statements they nitpick and dont agree with but at the end of the day That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000. is all that matters. rely on the customer to get the set made but won't invest themselves unless its a sure thing and then pocket the price breaks too. it is what it is.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 12:13:13 »
40k is a lot of money but my piece of that pie is only ~20 dollars and for me personally I am fine waiving 20 dollars if I have some level of certainty that I will actually get what I purchased.  To me that means having a vendor manage the logistics of the groupbuy because I have had too many geekhackers happily steal my money and pretend they either don't know me or that their group buy from 2012 is "shipping!".
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #138 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 12:58:26 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.

Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.

Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.

But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.

Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?

I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.

If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.

That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.

This is why the ideal MOQ exists. It's higher than the production (GMK's) MOQ. Dixie, NovelKeys, etc. set their goal MOQ higher than the GMK MOQ to offer lower initial pricing.

We are past having one, maybe two sets a month barely scraping towards 150 or 250 base units. Sets can easily hit 500+ if designed well and marketed properly as seen here and with many others. The lower price people pay is what the "dropped" price would be at 250, 500+ sets. Vendors are projecting to hit these larger numbers from the start and are regularly hitting them.

It's pointless to set a price at 150/250 with the anticipation of hitting 500+ anyway, it's extra work that's not necessary if the pricing is set for the higher MOQ from the beginning. Once you get into 1000+ units sold you can get into adding extra keys, etc. as Dracula did. It's also not as easy as you likely think to implement a Drop-like system where buyers are charged at the END of the buy, versus when they actually put in their order (the better way to do it, safer, you secure the funds, etc.). Manually refunding 170 orders sure, that's an afternoon - but 2000? - you're kidding me if you think anyone wants to do that buddy.

TL;DR The price drop is built in at the beginning. It saves time and effort on the backend once the buy hits the numbers that the vendor projects at the beginning.
« Last Edit: Thu, 14 November 2019, 13:07:42 by hineybush »

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 13:47:13 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.

Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.

Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.

But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.

Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?

I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.

If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.

That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.

This is why the ideal MOQ exists. It's higher than the production (GMK's) MOQ. Dixie, NovelKeys, etc. set their goal MOQ higher than the GMK MOQ to offer lower initial pricing.

We are past having one, maybe two sets a month barely scraping towards 150 or 250 base units. Sets can easily hit 500+ if designed well and marketed properly as seen here and with many others. The lower price people pay is what the "dropped" price would be at 250, 500+ sets. Vendors are projecting to hit these larger numbers from the start and are regularly hitting them.

It's pointless to set a price at 150/250 with the anticipation of hitting 500+ anyway, it's extra work that's not necessary if the pricing is set for the higher MOQ from the beginning. Once you get into 1000+ units sold you can get into adding extra keys, etc. as Dracula did. It's also not as easy as you likely think to implement a Drop-like system where buyers are charged at the END of the buy, versus when they actually put in their order (the better way to do it, safer, you secure the funds, etc.). Manually refunding 170 orders sure, that's an afternoon - but 2000? - you're kidding me if you think anyone wants to do that buddy.

TL;DR The price drop is built in at the beginning. It saves time and effort on the backend once the buy hits the numbers that the vendor projects at the beginning.

There are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 13:57:58 »
There are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.

"We only have rumours to go on but we won't stand for it!" — forums since the inception of the internet.  :))

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 14:03:39 »
There are rumors floating around that Dracula was priced at 250 MOQ. That's what people are upset about.

"We only have rumours to go on but we won't stand for it!" — forums since the inception of the internet.  :))
Seems like an easy rumor to debunk. Not only that, it would shut a lot of people up if it was... and yet, here we are
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #142 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 14:58:29 »
imagine a full time vendor making money

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 15:37:18 »
imagine a full time vendor making money

Oh, the humanity!

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 15:55:57 »
imagine a full time vendor making money

I really wish more people actually shared this sentiment.

It's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to expect a business not to make at least a little money on products they sell. Especially a business where selling keyboard-related products is their main source of income.

That $5 more you spent on that keyset allows vendors to move our hobby forward. If you're so upset about the price, either don't buy the product or buy 1 less Starbucks coffee a week.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:31:00 »
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.

Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.

Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"

Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.

I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."

$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.

You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:50:26 »
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.

Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.

Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"

Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.

I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."

$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.

You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.
I just think a lot of people think there is some other pseudo relationship between vendors and buyers here. That's where the issue lies. This is a transactional business relationship. A buyer is only as useful as their wallet to vendors, and vendors are only as useful as the product they are selling. When you start trying to muck about some other pseudo ethics one way or another, things get spicy. The $ value is the only one that matters here. The vendors give the price before a buyer buys. Then the buyer pays. The fact that a vendor is pocketing extra dough doesn't matter because they set that price at the start, and the buyer is the one that acts afterward. When we all just realize this is nothing more but business everything can become really easy.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 16:58:09 »
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.

Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.

Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"

Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.

I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."

$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.

You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.

Question...

Do you go into Wal-mart and ask them what their profit margin is on everything you buy? Do you sit and try to nitpick with a checkout clerk at said Wal-mart because you think the price on that skim milk you're buying is too much? No, of course you don't. It's none of your business what their profit margin is, and the same thing relates to these keysets.

I'm glad these vendors are making $40,000 extra on these sets. If they take even 5% of that and roll it into the next project, then great. Even if they don't, great. Good on them for running a successful business. You should be grateful that there's businesses that allow us to purchase these products in a secure manner that offers you all the consumer protections. I'd much rather toss money to a reputable website instead of some random person that's just storing $40,000 in some paypal account that could be locked up at any time at even just a couple of reports.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #148 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:03:30 »
Right. You guys are making it seem like I am saying the vendors don't deserve to make money, which is not what I am saying at all.
You guys make it seem like the vendors end up with no margin if they passed along the price drops, which is not true either.

Let me put it this way. I can't exactly remember which set it was that started to not offer price drops... but IIRC the reasoning for it was that it was too much work to manually refund each purchase. Which I completely understand and agree with.

Nowhere did I say that vendors should sit there and manually refund all those orders. I just merely asked, "Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?"

Lets go back to the reason for getting rid of the price drops: It's too much work.

I totally agree, it is a ton of work and I wouldn't wish that tediousness upon anyone. However, what they are saying here is "It's too much work for me to pass along the price drops, so I'm just going to pocket the money."

$40,000 would go a long way to just explore the possibility of implementing a system for price drops. Instead, it is just pocketed because that's the easy (and profitable) thing to do.

You guys don't agree with me, that's fine. You guys can laugh at me and make fun of me, IDGAF. In the end, I'm just a drop in the ocean... little me not buying future sets will not affect sales at all and my opinion will be buried and forgotten about.

Question...

Do you go into Wal-mart and ask them what their profit margin is on everything you buy? Do you sit and try to nitpick with a checkout clerk at said Wal-mart because you think the price on that skim milk you're buying is too much? No, of course you don't. It's none of your business what their profit margin is, and the same thing relates to these keysets.

I'm glad these vendors are making $40,000 extra on these sets. If they take even 5% of that and roll it into the next project, then great. Even if they don't, great. Good on them for running a successful business. You should be grateful that there's businesses that allow us to purchase these products in a secure manner that offers you all the consumer protections. I'd much rather toss money to a reputable website instead of some random person that's just storing $40,000 in some paypal account that could be locked up at any time at even just a couple of reports.
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Offline radam

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #149 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 17:43:41 »
Terms and prices are set beforehand. It was clearly fair enough for many people to buy. If you don't like it don't buy it. If you can't help yourself, and are mad you couldn't save a few extra dollars, then you have other problems that you need to sort out.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 18:26:16 »
People that complain about lack of price drops can vote with their wallets and not join group buys. Perhaps they will enjoy the secondary market prices instead!

As far as I know, no one is getting rich off of this hobby. Very few people are able to make this into their full time jobs and, if they can, I very much applaud them because it means they will be able to devote more time and energy into producing higher quality products for us to enjoy.

We should be happy to see vendors going full-time because that's what's best for the hobby in the long run.

Do you think it benefits anyone if people complained hundreds of years ago that watchmakers were making too much profit and they were losing the spirit of the watchmaking hobby?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #151 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:07:01 »
Very simple, for people whose upset about not getting price drop with higher quantity, DON'T buy or Join this GB.

Create your own Keycaps Design and Color Blocking, and run your own GB the way you want. Announce your GB to the community, and if the color blocking suit the community Taste you may as well get that 3,000, and you can set to the price you wanted when it reach the number.

Don't just complain, work it out, set your ideal example as a the benchmark for the community.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #152 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:15:09 »
wish massdrop would actually run sets like this so customers could benefit from price drops. yeah, 3 keys is great, id rather have the price drop. vendors caking

Who can predict which upcoming sets will sell this well?

this one was possibly the most obvious from the 13 page interest check

So a set with a 16 page interest check will probably do even better?

lol this has to be the only forum I know of that has this anti-consumer attitude.

most hobbies are like this. you get the circle jerk around the creators, designers, vendors. in the end every "favor" done for the consumer is just another way to make profits (which i can respect to a certain degree, im not saying vendors shouldn't be making profit for their hard work). people argue over putting 40s, iso, whatever else in the base kit to save a few bucks but when a set's numbers could have potentially saved the consumer 30 dollars (or whatever it was) they are busy jerking off the vendor and designer for adding in 3 keys no one cared about from the get go.

for all the **** massdrop gets, at least they are FAR more consumer centric in that respect. they own this forum but only run sets by the same designers which is a shame.

and to dvorcol, of course just page count means nothing but the sentiment within the pages is a decent indicator. if all 16 pages are **** talk and arguing obviously not, if all 16 pages are people basically nutting themselves its not an awful indicator.

i don't expect most of this forum to agree with me. there is far too much blind loyalty.

I freaking love [GMK] keycaps... I have 4 MX boards but I've lost count of how many keysets I have.

Unfortunately, this is probably my last purchase.

Initially when vendors stopped offering price drops I wasn't all that phased by it.
Yeah, I understood it was a pain in the ass for the vendor to go back and manually refund small amounts to hundreds of orders.

But this hobby has been growing very fast and keycap sales have gotten pretty crazy right now.
It used to be that you HAD to sell on Drop in order to hit big order numbers. This is obviously no longer the case and our community vendors can now hit numbers bigger than Drop.

Is it time the vendors figure out some system to bring back the price drops?

I'm not a fan of adding new keys, and it sucks that's the way it is going. The number of keys added is so arbitrary. For example Metropolis sold 1500 (with extras) and added 9 keys. Dracula sold 3000 (with extras) and added 5 keys.
It really just seems like the extras are just tossed out to distract everyone from the missing price drops.

If this set had sold on Drop with these numbers (not including extras so 2K sales), I guess it would be $100-110
There also would've been several drop points for half of the child kits.

That $20 price drop on the base kit @ 2K sales is $40,000.
Add in the price drops for the child kits and I think I know where the 938 extra base kits came from.
I think we've lost the spirit of group buys and I don't think there is any incentive for group buys to go back to having price drops, the current system works too good for the vendors.

i don't understand how it's a bad thing that vendors are making money
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 21:28:17 »
People that complain about lack of price drops can vote with their wallets and not join group buys. Perhaps they will enjoy the secondary market prices instead!

As far as I know, no one is getting rich off of this hobby. Very few people are able to make this into their full time jobs and, if they can, I very much applaud them because it means they will be able to devote more time and energy into producing higher quality products for us to enjoy.

We should be happy to see vendors going full-time because that's what's best for the hobby in the long run.

Do you think it benefits anyone if people complained hundreds of years ago that watchmakers were making too much profit and they were losing the spirit of the watchmaking hobby?
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #154 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 22:12:05 »
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?

Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.

I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.

There will be no more from me on this topic.

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« Reply #155 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 22:45:37 »
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?

Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.

I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.

There will be no more from me on this topic.

you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product

it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs

i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you

you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?

and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors

and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors

but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed
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« Reply #156 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:00:15 »
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?

Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.

I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.

There will be no more from me on this topic.

you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product

it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs

i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you

you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?

and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors

and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors

but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed

Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.

And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.

Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.

The end. For real.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:33:44 »
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?

Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.

I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.

There will be no more from me on this topic.

you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product

it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs

i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you

you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?

and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors

and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors

but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed

Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.

And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.

Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.

The end. For real.

yes but running a business costs money

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 14 November 2019, 23:38:20 »
Who would've thought a bunch of consumers could be so anti-consumer?

Sorry for getting all of you riled up by saying I wanted price drops to come back so we all could save a few more dollars.

I wasn't even demanding it, I just asked if it's something worth exploring and pointing out that the capital to explore that option is likely there.

There will be no more from me on this topic.

you defintely were not around when we were ****ing constantly getting scammed by people who showed up and ran like one GB and ran off with the money without us every getting a product

it's not anti consumer to want what you pay for to arrive, and to pay a premium to avoid the classic hassle that normally happens in GBs

i have the data to back up that vendors are good for the community, but i don't imagine i need to show it to you

you aren't incorrect in your assessment that yes, we're paying a lot, but if you can do the same job just as well, why don't you just do it instead of complaining on a keyboard ****posting forum?

and besides: drop gets better pricing from GMK than non-drop vendors

and non-drop vendors generally price with a certain MOQ in mind, which is why we're seeing a lot more sets at 500 MOQ lately, even though GMK's MOQ hasn't moved from 250 for sets with custom colors

but really, your argument that we should have more price drops isn't necessarily incorrect, just mildly uninformed

Dammit. Seriously last one because the random runner vs vendor argument came up again...
I wasn't comparing individual runners to the vendors. I'm sure we all remember the days when vendors did give price drops and that really didn't lower the level of service the vendors put out.

And you're right, I don't have all the data... I only see what is posted publicly... and publicly I see about $40,000 that could be used to, at least, explore the possibility of implementing a system to bring back the drops.

Like you said, I'm not necessarily incorrect. Which is where I think some exploration would come into play.

The end. For real.
So... The buyers deserve the 40k, not the vendor? Why would they moq price drops when profits are rocketing? What is a vendor's incentive to do that, especially when they almost break 2k base kits at the price they had
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #159 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 01:53:19 »
I don't care about saving 5-20 bucks and am happy to support vendors. But it was more fun watching the sales numbers with price drops. imo a good solution would be introducing extra keycaps per 1000/1500/2000... instead of price drops.

btw the extra keycaps we get from this gb are really disappointing. I know they don't have to add any exras at all. I guess very few will have a use for them. Was hoping for a simple accent kit, only esc and enter everybody could use. If they would have been introduced in the ic or from the beginning of the gb, participants would have had the chance trying to convince the runner to change these.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #160 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 02:19:21 »
I don't see why it's such a contentious suggestion.  The rebuttal about the vendors deserving the money rings hollow when this very practice is employed by the most successful keycap gb vendor out there (Drop).  If they can have a highly successful keycap gb business *and* offer price breaks as the quantity ordered increases, then other vendors should be able to do that as well.  One thing that really sets Drop apart is that they've invested more heavily than others in building their site, including the tools needed to handle price breaks.  Dohmain makes a very good point that the windfall from a highly successful group buy like GMK Dracula could be used by the vendor to build the automation they need to do make it happen for themselves.  It represents an opportunity for the vendor.  If the vendor chooses to reinvest those profits in their business, then this could be something that would set that vendor apart from others in a very positive way on future group buys.  I like Dixie Mech.  I'm all in favor of them giving everyone more of an incentive to buy from them.  It seems like it would be a win/win for all involved.

When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set.  Part of it is how much it's priced at.  Part of it is what I think of the vendor.

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« Reply #161 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:31:09 »
It's interesting to see the defensive response to a purely pro consumer sentiment.

Anyway, congratulations with a successfull GB.

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« Reply #162 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:48:16 »
Vendors ordered 1000 extras and took inventory risk.  Maybe they will sell out quick.  Maybe not.
Is $20+ cost drop at 3000 units justify the risk?  Maybe.  Maybe not.
In any case, I don't think anyone did this before.  They took the risk.  Let them enjoy the reward if successful.

5 extra keys at 1500 seem pretty good.  5 extra keys at 2000 seem pretty OK.
3000 is not worth mentioning since vendors took it there.

All in all, this GB was fantastic.  It was really buttoned down from the very beginning.  I don't think I've seen comprehensive color comparison before.

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« Reply #163 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 03:53:30 »
I don't care about saving 5-20 bucks and am happy to support vendors. But it was more fun watching the sales numbers with price drops. imo a good solution would be introducing extra keycaps per 1000/1500/2000... instead of price drops.

Great idea!  Few more extra keys to celebrate 3000 would have a perfect finishing touch. :thumb:

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« Reply #164 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 07:41:57 »
I don't see why it's such a contentious suggestion.  The rebuttal about the vendors deserving the money rings hollow when this very practice is employed by the most successful keycap gb vendor out there (Drop).  If they can have a highly successful keycap gb business *and* offer price breaks as the quantity ordered increases, then other vendors should be able to do that as well.  One thing that really sets Drop apart is that they've invested more heavily than others in building their site, including the tools needed to handle price breaks.  Dohmain makes a very good point that the windfall from a highly successful group buy like GMK Dracula could be used by the vendor to build the automation they need to do make it happen for themselves.  It represents an opportunity for the vendor.  If the vendor chooses to reinvest those profits in their business, then this could be something that would set that vendor apart from others in a very positive way on future group buys.  I like Dixie Mech.  I'm all in favor of them giving everyone more of an incentive to buy from them.  It seems like it would be a win/win for all involved.

When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set.  Part of it is how much it's priced at.  Part of it is what I think of the vendor.
This 'loyalty' is only relevant when there are more than one vender per locale per set. Just because a vendor can do something doesn't mean they should or will. Their only obligation is to take your money and ship you a kit. If sets are sold at multiple vendors per locale, that's when buyers and vendors both need to start getting picky. Until then, they don't have to do anything
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #165 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 08:28:25 »
I've been a member of this site for like 10min but look... I assume we're all adults here with absolute free agency over how we spend our money. At some point we looked in the mirror and decided to buy plastic keyboard caps, added all the bits to a cart and looked at the price point. $150.00 $200.00 ... $300.00!? We clicked the buy button.

A choice was made.

Now it would be nice if someone out of the goodness of their hearts decided to refund some of that cash so we can live the dream with a little extra jingle in our pocket, but we are absolutely not entitled to such. We agreed up front with no guarantee of any adjustments on the back end. If its too rich for your blood up front, don't pay the cost. Abstain. Eventually when enough people feel the same the prices will have to come down in order to meet the market value of the product.

That's how I see it anyway.

That said its too bad we're all ****ting all over OP's celebratory mood. I'll be excited to see my set show up. First GMK buy in more than a year for me. First one period that I found through this site. As long as I receive my product I'll be happy. 

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« Reply #166 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 09:43:36 »
Everyone who things lack of price drops is anti-consumer is being myopic.

Vendors and designers making money is a good thing for super niche hobbies like this. It allows them the take risks and bring projects to life that otherwise would never happen.

We know what prices are up front. There is not fraud. There is no trickery.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 11:25:35 »
I don't see why it's such a contentious suggestion.  The rebuttal about the vendors deserving the money rings hollow when this very practice is employed by the most successful keycap gb vendor out there (Drop).  If they can have a highly successful keycap gb business *and* offer price breaks as the quantity ordered increases, then other vendors should be able to do that as well.  One thing that really sets Drop apart is that they've invested more heavily than others in building their site, including the tools needed to handle price breaks.  Dohmain makes a very good point that the windfall from a highly successful group buy like GMK Dracula could be used by the vendor to build the automation they need to do make it happen for themselves.  It represents an opportunity for the vendor.  If the vendor chooses to reinvest those profits in their business, then this could be something that would set that vendor apart from others in a very positive way on future group buys.  I like Dixie Mech.  I'm all in favor of them giving everyone more of an incentive to buy from them.  It seems like it would be a win/win for all involved.

When I consider joining a group buy, part of the decision is how much I like the set.  Part of it is how much it's priced at.  Part of it is what I think of the vendor.
This 'loyalty' is only relevant when there are more than one vender per locale per set. Just because a vendor can do something doesn't mean they should or will. Their only obligation is to take your money and ship you a kit. If sets are sold at multiple vendors per locale, that's when buyers and vendors both need to start getting picky. Until then, they don't have to do anything

Nope, you've missed my point.  On some group buys (not this buy, and not this vendor -- I like this set, I like Dixie Mech, and I ordered GMK Dracula), my thought process is "Do I want this set?  Yes.  Do I want this set enough to buy it from an annoying vendor who seems to have fulfillment problems every time and who I will once again regret giving my money?  No, not this time."  There are vendors who make me less likely to buy a set I want, just because the vendor is annoying to deal with.  There are vendors I will not buy from under any circumstances because they have done something particularly egregious in a past buy.  So even when there is only one vendor per locale (or even just one vendor period), who that vendor is factors into whether I'm buying any given set.  I have stayed out of multiple group buys that I wanted just because of the choice of vendor, and I'm sure I will do so again in the future.
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 15 November 2019, 17:34:06 »
Prices are what it is, and we knew there was a slim-to-none chance of price drops before it started.

Like some others pointed out before, the extra key choices are more disappointing.  Extra accents (like Metropolis) would've been nice; it rewards the early buyers with extras that they can use. Extra compatibility keys are essentially worthless to the early buyers (they wouldn't have bought them if their keyboards are incompatible), and its purpose was to get more buyers to buy in.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 07:43:03 »
So any updates since the group buy ended? It's been crickets on this end.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 08:55:40 »
Yeah same, would love to hear how it's progressing. Especially for us first-time GB'ers.


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« Reply #171 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:17:02 »
Yeah same, would love to hear how it's progressing. Especially for us first-time GB'ers.

So any updates since the group buy ended? It's been crickets on this end.

Bruh, it's been less then a month since GB ended lol
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« Reply #172 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:19:29 »
*edit

There aren't as many production milestones as in keyboard GB's so not much to update about.
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« Reply #173 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:32:47 »
Yeah same, would love to hear how it's progressing. Especially for us first-time GB'ers.
They won't start colour matching or production until Q1/Q2 next year, there's a big queue ahead of Dracula at GMK right now

It's gonna be like this for a couple more months, better get used to it brother

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« Reply #174 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 10:28:49 »
No worries, thanks for the info. Good to know what to expect :)


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« Reply #175 on: Wed, 27 November 2019, 10:50:38 »
Yeah I don't have an issue waiting just wanted to know whats up/what to expect/when, etc.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #176 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 16:20:35 »
Hi so i recently got into customs and am building my first right now.
I completely fell in love with this set! Will there be extras made for people who missed thegroupbuy or is there any other way to aquire the core set without mechmarket?
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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #177 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 16:54:01 »
There are likely a decent number of extras. When you find the time they are listed, even if someone tells you there’s a lot of them, you will buy in the opening 30 seconds of their listing. These things go faster than you’d figure.

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« Reply #178 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 23:05:02 »
Hi so i recently got into customs and am building my first right now.
I completely fell in love with this set! Will there be extras made for people who missed thegroupbuy or is there any other way to aquire the core set without mechmarket?
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Every vendor is going to have a ton of extras and people will also be selling on mechmarket. You'll be able to get one without too much markup.

Re: [GB] GMK Dracula — Final numbers! (Group buy closed)
« Reply #179 on: Mon, 20 January 2020, 09:56:37 »
Has anyone mentioned/thinking about dark alphas add-on?

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« Reply #180 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 09:46:10 »
Has anyone mentioned/thinking about dark alphas add-on?

The alphas are dark already...?

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula (CLOSED) — In color matching phase
« Reply #181 on: Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:43:25 »
Maybe he means like "evil" alphas.

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Re: [GB] GMK Dracula (CLOSED) — In color matching phase
« Reply #182 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 15:57:40 »
I want to do a mix of Dracula's mods with another alpha set so if anybody is willing to part ways with some keys (R1 `~, R2 del, R3 Pg Up and R4 Pg Down) and/or nightmode set, please let me know! EU here.
Highly appreciated if someone is willing to help me out ;)
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