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Offline Qomolangma

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[IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this cybertank ?
« on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 02:38:19 »
Cyberboard











Hello, Geekhackers, let me introduce you a creative keyboard: the Cyberboard.
I surprisingly found it in a Keyboard bbs of China . The inspiration comes from the Cybertruck of Tesla.
The cyberboard is in R&D,with innovative features and amazing functions. I wanner share with you the latest information I got from the designer. Welcome to my discord .

https://discord.gg/su2DXde
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Offline Qomolangma

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 02:41:13 »
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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 02:44:42 »
Interesting design.. but the machining and display would make this chonky boi an expensive board..

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Offline rondg

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 04:14:03 »
Are those programmable LEDs at the back?  :eek:

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 04:19:32 »
T H I C C

Not sure if I'm going to buy it, but I'm definitely watching.

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 04:19:48 »
Very interesting design

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 05:33:56 »
I'll take one.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 06:04:43 »
I'm totally down for another chonker!
Chonkers are underrated af

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 06:19:12 »
Holy ****

Offline Gtrx

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 06:20:11 »
How are you handling the led matrix pcb wise? I'd assume you're using an LED driver as usable (with qmk compat) commercial mcu's don't have enough pins for the switch matrix and the led matrix.

Offline pengoot02

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« Reply #10 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 06:35:47 »
a chonkus board

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 06:44:12 »
any info on the board?

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 09:19:57 »
Details on the board? Mount? Plate, Weight, and Case material? Matching wrist rest? Option to turn LED screen into a weight?

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 10:42:31 »
The lights are just going to be reflected by the computer screen and be annoying. Anyone who buys this is going to have the LEDs on for max five minutes before they are fed up with the gimmick.

With twice as many RGB LEDs as any full-size keyboard, few ports are going to power it. Forget even trying it with a laptop.
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Offline productkun

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 10:56:46 »
When youre not allowed to go outside but still wanna get the disco feel.

Its interesting looking, not sure if id ever use it tbh.

I do love the first render!

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 11:27:08 »
The lights are just going to be reflected by the computer screen and be annoying. Anyone who buys this is going to have the LEDs on for max five minutes before they are fed up with the gimmick.

With twice as many RGB LEDs as any full-size keyboard, few ports are going to power it. Forget even trying it with a laptop.

Oh man, good luck powering this thing at full power with anything that's not a desktop psu. I assume that they would use either the ws2812b or a dumb rgb led with a led controller. Now if we do the math for the worst case scenario with ws2812b's, it doesn't look good. Each channel (R, G and B) on a ws2812b can draw max 20mA. If all 3 channels are at max power, they draw 60mA. The led display seems to have 200 leds. If all of them are at max brightness and on white, the leds will draw 12A. at 5v, that's 60W. I'd like to see how they handle thermals and power for that. But, lets think about a more realistic scenario, lets take a current draw of 10mA for each LED. That's 2A @ 5v, right in line with the USB PD profile 1. If they add a usb pd negotiation chip to the pcb, then that would be possible. A buck converter may be needed for higher current operation, as usb PD profiles only offer 2A max at 5v.

Offline Jampu

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 13:38:38 »
The lights are just going to be reflected by the computer screen and be annoying. Anyone who buys this is going to have the LEDs on for max five minutes before they are fed up with the gimmick.

With twice as many RGB LEDs as any full-size keyboard, few ports are going to power it. Forget even trying it with a laptop.

Oh man, good luck powering this thing at full power with anything that's not a desktop psu. I assume that they would use either the ws2812b or a dumb rgb led with a led controller. Now if we do the math for the worst case scenario with ws2812b's, it doesn't look good. Each channel (R, G and B) on a ws2812b can draw max 20mA. If all 3 channels are at max power, they draw 60mA. The led display seems to have 200 leds. If all of them are at max brightness and on white, the leds will draw 12A. at 5v, that's 60W. I'd like to see how they handle thermals and power for that. But, lets think about a more realistic scenario, lets take a current draw of 10mA for each LED. That's 2A @ 5v, right in line with the USB PD profile 1. If they add a usb pd negotiation chip to the pcb, then that would be possible. A buck converter may be needed for higher current operation, as usb PD profiles only offer 2A max at 5v.

Consider a standard RGB 60%.  By your logic, it would take 3.6A to power it.  Any matrix driver only drives one row or column at a time...

This will still be interesting to follow as it's 600 LEDs to control, so at least 50 pins.  More likely though there would be several cheaper drivers running around 20x5 RGB matrices.  This is still 60 LEDs running concurrently, but because the LEDs aren't indicators and don't have to shine through switches/caps they can be run at very low current and still seem quite bright.

Offline Gtrx

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 16:22:27 »
The lights are just going to be reflected by the computer screen and be annoying. Anyone who buys this is going to have the LEDs on for max five minutes before they are fed up with the gimmick.

With twice as many RGB LEDs as any full-size keyboard, few ports are going to power it. Forget even trying it with a laptop.

Oh man, good luck powering this thing at full power with anything that's not a desktop psu. I assume that they would use either the ws2812b or a dumb rgb led with a led controller. Now if we do the math for the worst case scenario with ws2812b's, it doesn't look good. Each channel (R, G and B) on a ws2812b can draw max 20mA. If all 3 channels are at max power, they draw 60mA. The led display seems to have 200 leds. If all of them are at max brightness and on white, the leds will draw 12A. at 5v, that's 60W. I'd like to see how they handle thermals and power for that. But, lets think about a more realistic scenario, lets take a current draw of 10mA for each LED. That's 2A @ 5v, right in line with the USB PD profile 1. If they add a usb pd negotiation chip to the pcb, then that would be possible. A buck converter may be needed for higher current operation, as usb PD profiles only offer 2A max at 5v.

Consider a standard RGB 60%.  By your logic, it would take 3.6A to power it.  Any matrix driver only drives one row or column at a time...

This will still be interesting to follow as it's 600 LEDs to control, so at least 50 pins.  More likely though there would be several cheaper drivers running around 20x5 RGB matrices.  This is still 60 LEDs running concurrently, but because the LEDs aren't indicators and don't have to shine through switches/caps they can be run at very low current and still seem quite bright.

you're right, in that example I got a bit carried away, and assumed that they were using the ws2812b's only.

Offline enrique.aliaga

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 17:50:00 »
This is not an 80%.


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Offline keuhdall

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 19:57:04 »
I need this in my life.
Very bold design, looks great imo.
That's now my second most-wanted keyboard after the VE.A 2nd.

Offline hottrout

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 08:08:47 »
That would be a really cool board to have for a gaming rig.
I started with a Sinclair human flesh keyboard in 1980 and it has never stopped.

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Offline Jaltr

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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 10:19:42 »
That would be a really cool board to have for a gaming rig.
For the Xbox Series X?

Offline synthtastic

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 16:27:46 »
This looks so damn cool.

Offline TheNajin

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 05:28:28 »
 :cool: :cool:we need more details. cool design tho

Offline Qomolangma

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 22:07:11 »
Details on the board? Mount? Plate, Weight, and Case material? Matching wrist rest? Option to turn LED screen into a weight?
Yes,- It has many modes, you can customize the pattern, time, wave and other effects.
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Offline Qomolangma

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« Reply #25 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 22:10:51 »
How are you handling the led matrix pcb wise? I'd assume you're using an LED driver as usable (with qmk compat) commercial mcu's don't have enough pins for the switch matrix and the led matrix.
Not based on qmk. They found a new IC, rewritten the driver, and still debugging.
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Offline Qomolangma

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« Reply #26 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 22:15:29 »
Details on the board? Mount? Plate, Weight, and Case material? Matching wrist rest? Option to turn LED screen into a weight?
Mounting style:Top mount,and we added some gaskets between the screws
Weight:unsure
Case materials: 6061 aluminum alloy
CNC and anodization production
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Offline Qomolangma

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this 80% cybertank ?
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 22:19:10 »
The lights are just going to be reflected by the computer screen and be annoying. Anyone who buys this is going to have the LEDs on for max five minutes before they are fed up with the gimmick.

With twice as many RGB LEDs as any full-size keyboard, few ports are going to power it. Forget even trying it with a laptop.

Oh man, good luck powering this thing at full power with anything that's not a desktop psu. I assume that they would use either the ws2812b or a dumb rgb led with a led controller. Now if we do the math for the worst case scenario with ws2812b's, it doesn't look good. Each channel (R, G and B) on a ws2812b can draw max 20mA. If all 3 channels are at max power, they draw 60mA. The led display seems to have 200 leds. If all of them are at max brightness and on white, the leds will draw 12A. at 5v, that's 60W. I'd like to see how they handle thermals and power for that. But, lets think about a more realistic scenario, lets take a current draw of 10mA for each LED. That's 2A @ 5v, right in line with the USB PD profile 1. If they add a usb pd negotiation chip to the pcb, then that would be possible. A buck converter may be needed for higher current operation, as usb PD profiles only offer 2A max at 5v.

Consider a standard RGB 60%.  By your logic, it would take 3.6A to power it.  Any matrix driver only drives one row or column at a time...

This will still be interesting to follow as it's 600 LEDs to control, so at least 50 pins.  More likely though there would be several cheaper drivers running around 20x5 RGB matrices.  This is still 60 LEDs running concurrently, but because the LEDs aren't indicators and don't have to shine through switches/caps they can be run at very low current and still seem quite bright.

you're right, in that example I got a bit carried away, and assumed that they were using the ws2812b's only.
So far, they have used 200 RGB LEDs, and the maximum power consumption is limited to 400 mA
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 00:37:39 »
pretty sick design !

Offline Starius

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 16:20:32 »
Oh man, Iím definitely gonna keep an eye on this project. Wow!

Offline MudkipMao

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 18:53:55 »
Uhhhh, I think I just fell in love with backglow

Offline Wolframme

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 00:06:45 »
Honestly, this design is hot af. Not sure if I'm in but I'm going to be closely watching.

Offline Jaeena

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 12:21:49 »
Very cool design. I'm definitely interested.  :thumb:

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 21:11:26 »
Really interesting design, I like it. I'll keep my eye on this, but I have to imagine the LED strip will make this real expensive.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 21:38:55 »
I like the look of it, but I can already hear my wallet screaming haha

Offline Qomolangma

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 03:45:09 »
That's pretty cool!
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Offline Jaltr

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:09:14 »
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That's pretty cool!
So hypeeeed

Offline rondg

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:36:46 »
I'm scared to know how much this is going to cost...

Offline lush_bunny

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:00:41 »
I really really hope thereís a blue option for the case. I have an idea what caps to put on this 👀

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 11:22:03 »
Love this !

Offline beekey

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 14:29:33 »
Holy mother of the clack. This is very cool!

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 14:50:28 »
Didnt know there was a prototype already underway, this thing looks sweet. Excited to see you get the lights up and running

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 18:49:08 »
Completely bloody impractical, big waste of desk space 77and the community will mock me if I buy one therefore it is perfect, put me down for two!
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Offline krugerlive

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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 19:13:17 »
Count me as in on this one.  Love it!  It's like the late 1970s entered now and gave us a keyboard.

Offline beekey

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 07:18:08 »
If you do the wrist rest too, it will be clack-porn pure.
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Offline konstantin

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Re: [IC] Cyberboard | Do you like this cybertank ?
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 14:51:28 »
Here's a pic of the RGB PCB proto that someone posted in Twitch chat last night. Looks like the board's all built up. This means that there are at least two prototypes of this board out there (one gray and one violet).




Offline Slayer77

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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 14:57:47 »
Green

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Offline Rejeckted

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:31:05 »
If the timing is right, and if I can behave myself financially then I would absolutely be interested in this lol

Offline Starius

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:32:15 »
What color would you call the first prototype? It kind of looks like a bluish tinged space grey to me.

Very cool to see these.  The project is definitely further on than I expected.

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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 17:24:52 »
Ok after seeing those prototype pics I'm 100% sold. I don't even care how much it costs I want one lol that purple one looks dank