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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #300 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:10:27 »
Just curious but I thought the designer simply gives the permission to vendors to do gb(collecting money from buyers and send it to manufacture), like keycaps gb, without permission from Olivia for example, we wouldn't have GMK olivia++, so it is not like selling one's design, right?

Yeah, as I understand it, working with a vendor is more about money collection and sorting distribution costs to different regions, not actually selling someone's design or other form of intellectual property. GMK still produces GB GMK sets, no matter if it's Cannon Keys or zFrontier collecting the funds.
Usually yeah, but there is a few exceptions. Some people don't want to worry about it so they just have someone take it over.
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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #301 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:14:44 »
even if he isn't a scammer, why would anyone buy a board with practically a huge nazi sign on the bottom part of the case?


Man comparing it to a nazi sign is mighty long bridge. I can understand where you might believe it looks like the Imperial Flag but it's still a stretch. Are we just going to start calling every circle with lines a symbol on the level of the nazi swastika? It's nonsensical because that weight doesn't really look like it.
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« Reply #302 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:21:49 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #303 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:26:10 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
Donít be rude buddy. Iím firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.


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I'm sorry but when people start making assumptions like everyone defending him must be on his private server and therefor part of the scam is taking it a little too far. The other guy calling people retarded is taking it much further than I am...

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #304 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:27:43 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
I'm getting most of my information from friends, I am tired of this and am only going to respond to questions others asked. I hope someone in the vietnam community who has worked with him can respond. I didn't really want this to be debated. Heck, I only posted it because someone told me to. I just wanted to tell people to not support this guy. I hope he ships to his customers, and we can trust him for future buys. I just don't think he can be trusted, and he is open about disliking his local community. Their community doesn't like him, and I think there is a reason for that. Please PM me on geekhack or discord if you want to talk more.
Have you read my response  yet or just reading and remembering what you wanna debate mate? Scroll up a lil bit. Iím your Vietnamese collector who have observed since this design have been given birth infancy and I truly believe they are no longer related to the other. The other here who took all the funds seems like the one who ran the C21 GB.


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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #305 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:28:08 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
Donít be rude buddy. Iím firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.


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I'm sorry but when people start making assumptions like everyone defending him must be on his private server and therefor part of the scam is taking it a little too far. The other guy calling people retarded is taking it much further than I am...
That was just me being stupid.
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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #306 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 21:31:45 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
I'm getting most of my information from friends, I am tired of this and am only going to respond to questions others asked. I hope someone in the vietnam community who has worked with him can respond. I didn't really want this to be debated. Heck, I only posted it because someone told me to. I just wanted to tell people to not support this guy. I hope he ships to his customers, and we can trust him for future buys. I just don't think he can be trusted, and he is open about disliking his local community. Their community doesn't like him, and I think there is a reason for that. Please PM me on geekhack or discord if you want to talk more.
Have you read my response  yet or just reading and remembering what you wanna debate mate? Scroll up a lil bit. Iím your Vietnamese collector who have observed since this design have been given birth infancy and I truly believe they are no longer related to the other. The other here who took all the funds seems like the one who ran the C21 GB.


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I meant someone who has bought stuff from him or made stuff for him.
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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #307 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:05:51 »
By the way, everyone here who is defending them is on the Ori discord talking to the creator. They are all connected lol. I got banned after I said Hi All. Oh well

Lol. I'm on his discord talking to him. Time to quit your conspiracy theory ****. I mean all of it is probably true, but your turning into a massive drama queen. Is it that shocking that people who are defending him are also wanting to buy his keyboard and on his discord (which was started during this IC)? Good lord. And of course you'd be blocked. I doubt you'd last 5 minutes before bringing up this ad nauseam again.
Donít be rude buddy. Iím firmly stay here at the middle of this thunderstorm.


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I'm sorry but when people start making assumptions like everyone defending him must be on his private server and therefor part of the scam is taking it a little too far. The other guy calling people retarded is taking it much further than I am...
That was just me being stupid.

Haha, all is forgiven. Again. I truly appreciate the info. It was valuable for anyone interested in this to have. Now they have to just make a decision.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #308 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:28:29 »
I don't think there is a need for people to "attack" (used loosely here) that guy that warned us of this designer's past actions. As much as this is a community and we want good relationships, a GB when it comes down to it is strictly a seller and buyer deal. Maybe the guy has a more negative attitude towards this thing or wants to "stir up ****" but in the end it will be beneficial for the buyers if he really discover something. There is no need to attack this designer as well but there isn't a need to defend him either, he's an adult and can handle himself and when he does deliver the board that will be insane as well to proof the people that doubted him wrong and wash his name clean. Or he doesn't deliver, as obviously the things his done is sus af, he seems so proud of his designs refusing to sell to vendors but it was his design that scammed so many after all. I'm unsure as I don't have the old thread open when I'm typing this but I don't think people's that dumb to join a GB when there's no pictures of prototypes, so the fact that his presenting prototypes shouldn't be a point of reassurance as well. Really the only way to go that would be the safest is to partner with someone else reputable; people will still storm the gb no doubt but they run the risk of falling for a scam orcastrated by someone who was involved with one in the past.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #309 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 23:57:00 »
I'm out. If people wanna risk it, I sincerely wish you good luck.

But comparing that bottom weight to genocide and swastika is ridiculous, get a grip.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #310 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 01:07:00 »
I won't answer you again, because the focus of this conversation is one thing. You want me to end, and you want me to take responsibility for what I don't do.
You argue here not because of the keyboard, nor because of everyone. You are here because you believe you are justice, and those you consider to have every sin must pay for your ego.
The ORI design is mine, and will be owned by me from start to finish. Even if it's this hard. I've put all my effort into doing everything I can.
I won't say anything more about drama, and just update here about prototypes.
In the end, when everything was done. Money is in everyone's hands, and it's up to everyone to decide whether or not to buy it.
So you are ghosting and will not help anyone if they have issues. Nice.
you should shut the **** up.
wow nice arguments you got there kiddo. really grown up discussion. not.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #311 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 01:13:51 »

Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vuís is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadnít follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didnít receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didnít agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didnít think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I donít have to use my true account? I can stand under anotherís name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
 ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didnít bring this story to get the communityís tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people donít consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
As long as he did not receive any money seems to be somewhat innocent.

we don't really know whether he did or not. all we know is that he was involved with a scandal and he never got in front of the issue with an explanation. he's only offering an explanation now after being exposed. you think he would've offered an explanation if no one had brought his past to light in this thread? no way.

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« Reply #312 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:24:42 »

Dear all,
I create this topic to explain all problems. First, wading back to the time of MAB, MAB consists of 3 members: Tuan Anh, Vu and me.
I was invited into the team as a designer. Vu (make pcb) joined the team later only when beginning opening GB R96.
It is the fact that my role is only to design, Vuís is to make pcb and Tuan Anh is totally in charge of machining.
The cash flow of MAB was set: Paypal (mine) -> currency conversion -> give Tuan Anh to pay for machining factory.
I GAVE ALL THE MONEY RECEIVED TO TUAN ANH with a promise of 10% GB but never ever happened.
And I never ever receive any money of R96, 60S, rose.
Matter arising when finishing anodizing R96, some of pieces was failed and had to remake. During that time, Tuan Anh on his own sold R96 for others (even though who hadnít follow GB)
It resulted in short of goods and money is only Tuan Anh knew.
Then, opening new GB of 60S to make up for R96 loss.
(Even at this time, I didnít receive any money as salary or commission)
My paypal now is claim up to -3700$ but contacting Tuan Anh just receive nothing.
After 60S, I left MAB (If still called a team) because I didnít agree with that working way. And I have worked in another field for a long time and didnít think about making keyboard anymore.
I want to make clear that I never ever received any money of any GB of MAB and have no idea of cash flow at that time.
If I open GB ORI just due to money or scam or something else, I donít have to use my true account? I can stand under anotherís name, is it much more easier?
About ORI, I have done 2 prototypes and nearly get 1 more to make sure about the quality.
 ORI is my design and LOKA is manufacturer. In addition, LOKA and I signed legal contract.
I have talked all what related to me above. I lost money, lost reputation, lost time. For the time beings, even in difficulty I didnít bring this story to get the communityís tear. But this time, everything goes too far, when some people donít consider or maybe hate me and try to ruin me.
Now, it does not influence only me but also LOKA that support me very well.
In conclusion, this is my first as well as my last time to make an explanation about MAB and me. Everything is true or not, many people know.
As long as he did not receive any money seems to be somewhat innocent.

we don't really know whether he did or not. all we know is that he was involved with a scandal and he never got in front of the issue with an explanation. he's only offering an explanation now after being exposed. you think he would've offered an explanation if no one had brought his past to light in this thread? no way.
I mean he did say in this IC first post that he was full of regret about his involvement and was sorry. He may have not explained it in detail, but it's not like he said nothing.

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« Reply #313 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:50:03 »
I'm out. If people wanna risk it, I sincerely wish you good luck.

But comparing that bottom weight to genocide and swastika is ridiculous, get a grip.

It's an extremely sensitive topic in most of Asia, even more so I would say than Europe is with Nazis. (some wounds still left open)
If enough people are seeing the connection, you shouldn't just dismiss it as being ridiculous.
« Last Edit: Wed, 27 May 2020, 05:51:54 by cptbubbles »

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« Reply #314 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 06:52:42 »
The weight design looks very little like the old Japanese flag to me. How else are you meant to portray a rising sun geometrically? Next people are gonna say all things related to a rising sun are offensive when it should be beautiful. I am not a fan of the old Japanese flag but this just doesn't look like it. The Sun and rays are not red. The rays do not expand closer to the edges. They do not go 360 degrees around the sun. It just sounds like a wild witch hunt to me by some individuals who want to see this project fail and love drama because they have nothing better to do with their time.

As for the other drama, the information is out there and buyers can now make their own decisions.

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« Reply #315 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:20:49 »
The weight design looks very little like the old Japanese flag to me. How else are you meant to portray a rising sun geometrically? Next people are gonna say all things related to a rising sun are offensive when it should be beautiful. I am not a fan of the old Japanese flag but this just doesn't look like it. The Sun and rays are not red. The rays do not expand closer to the edges. They do not go 360 degrees around the sun. It just sounds like a wild witch hunt to me by some individuals who want to see this project fail and love drama because they have nothing better to do with their time.

As for the other drama, the information is out there and buyers can now make their own decisions.

Wild witch hunt may be part of it, but it was brought up earlier in the thread too by someone else. In the end if Bruce is OK redesigning the weight, I'm sure he'll come up with something else that's awesome, and it's an easy way to just avoid the issue.

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« Reply #316 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 08:52:49 »
Alright folks, I'm going to try to give a full story here, at least from my own perspective.

I am the founder of Team Mechlovin'. You may know us as runners of PCB Group buys, including the Hannah 910, Infinity CE and Adelais (Alice). I hope this adds credibility to my input.

I first came in contact with the OP 3 years ago, when he was still working for MAB (MakeABoard), which of course, is now considered the ultimate scam by the local community. We hardly ever talked because he came out as a reserved (and somehow arrogant) personality, which I didn't have a problem with because all designers I knew were like that. In fact, I was in much more regular contact on a personal basis with that team's PCB designer, who is now my sole partner and technical consultant on Team Mechlovin's projects.

At the time, I was interested in getting a R96, and was told by the then MAB leader (Tuan Anh) that they had an "extra". Of course, I realised months later that it was probably someone's GB unit...I had also purchased some random custom from them a few months  before that, and for both times, every communication related to money went through Tuan Anh, not the OP (Bruce). When things fell out and MAB was exposed by the local community, Bruce was trying to defend his team and having heated arguments with other members, and he said some unsavoury things, which led to personal grudges until these days. From time to time, his name is brought up in online conversations as THE scammer, although his role in making MAB's financial decisions is very much up to debate. From my point of view, many of those personal attacks are merely fueled by the mentioned grudges.

A few months ago, he came to me for advice on this project due to the fact that I have been working with his former teammate on many successful GBs, and that I'm now the admin of a local mech community, separate from the one he fell out of favour a few years back. It's important to note that I had previously had face-to-face sessions with my partner about his involvement in MAB's shady business because I needed to understand who I was to work with, and naturally, Bruce's name came up as well in our conversations. From my partner's side of story, he was simply working for MAB as a PCB designer and never had any say in the financial aspects of the business. I trust my partner, completely. Later on, when I heard Bruce's story, many things checked out, including the part where he's still in debt worth thousands of USD in the form of Paypal chargeback, and he never received support from the one actually in charge of sales and finance, namely Tuan Anh.

So, how much did he know about the scamming activities and was he the one to blame in the total sh*tshow named MAB? I don't know for certain, and though I have information that forms my personal opinion towards this whole thing, it doesn't mean it has to be reflected onto yours. My first and only advice to him when he decided to come back, is that he must COME CLEAN and let the community decide. In his defence, he did mention where he comes from in the original post, but again, I agree that he should have told a clearer story right from the start, and he surely needs to work on his communication skills. One thing I can be certain of, is he's serious and passionate about this project, and excited about the prospect of coming back to the community.

That's all I have to say. In all honestly, if anyone is to give an objective input in this cluster of drama, I believe it's me, because of my knowledge of the people involved, and that I actually have something to lose here, namely my reputation as a GB runner. The rest, of course, is still up to you to decide.
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« Reply #317 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:02:37 »
The weight design looks very little like the old Japanese flag to me. How else are you meant to portray a rising sun geometrically? Next people are gonna say all things related to a rising sun are offensive when it should be beautiful. I am not a fan of the old Japanese flag but this just doesn't look like it. The Sun and rays are not red. The rays do not expand closer to the edges. They do not go 360 degrees around the sun. It just sounds like a wild witch hunt to me by some individuals who want to see this project fail and love drama because they have nothing better to do with their time.

As for the other drama, the information is out there and buyers can now make their own decisions.

Wild witch hunt may be part of it, but it was brought up earlier in the thread too by someone else. In the end if Bruce is OK redesigning the weight, I'm sure he'll come up with something else that's awesome, and it's an easy way to just avoid the issue.

Yeah but my issue with that is apparently no one saw that connection when the weight design change was made. The new design was lauded as a great one but then more than a week later the old GB drama starts and now we have a problem with the design? It just feels like the carriage started catching fire and people just toss more tinder in there. At least that's how it feels from my end. I understand people may not have seen it or whatever but it still smells a bit.

--->Ahh snap not meaning to detract so please read post above mine, very informative.
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« Reply #318 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:04:17 »
Alright folks, I'm going to try to give a full story here, at least from my own perspective.

I am the founder of Team Mechlovin'. You may know us as runners of PCB Group buys, including the Hannah 910, Infinity CE and Adelais (Alice). I hope this adds credibility to my input.

I first came in contact with the OP 3 years ago, when he was still working for MAB (MakeABoard), which of course, is now considered the ultimate scam by the local community. We hardly ever talked because he came out as a reserved (and somehow arrogant) personality, which I didn't have a problem with because all designers I knew were like that. In fact, I was in much more regular contact on a personal basis with that team's PCB designer, who is now my sole partner and technical consultant on Team Mechlovin's projects.

At the time, I was interested in getting a R96, and was told by the then MAB leader (Tuan Anh) that they had an "extra". Of course, I realised months later that it was probably someone's GB unit...I had also purchased some random custom from them a few months  before that, and for both times, every communication related to money went through Tuan Anh, not the OP (Bruce). When things fell out and MAB was exposed by the local community, Bruce was trying to defend his team and having heated arguments with other members, and he said some unsavoury things, which led to personal grudges until these days. From time to time, his name is brought up in online conversations as THE scammer, although his role in making MAB's financial decisions is very much up to debate. From my point of view, many of those personal attacks are merely fueled by the mentioned grudges.

A few months ago, he came to me for advice on this project due to the fact that I have been working with his former teammate on many successful GBs, and that I'm now the admin of a local mech community, separate from the one he fell out of favour a few years back. It's important to note that I had previously had face-to-face sessions with my partner about his involvement in MAB's shady business because I needed to understand who I was to work with, and naturally, Bruce's name came up as well in our conversations. From my partner's side of story, he was simply working for MAB as a PCB designer and never had any say in the financial aspects of the business. I trust my partner, completely. Later on, when I heard Bruce's story, many things checked out, including the part where he's still in debt worth thousands of USD in the form of Paypal chargeback, and he never received support from the one actually in charge of sales and finance, namely Tuan Anh.

So, how much did he know about the scamming activities and was he the one to blame in the total sh*tshow named MAB? I don't know for certain, and though I have information that forms my personal opinion towards this whole thing, it doesn't mean it has to be reflected onto yours. My first and only advice to him when he decided to come back, is that he must COME CLEAN and let the community decide. In his defence, he did mention where he comes from in the original post, but again, I agree that he should have told a clearer story right from the start, and he surely needs to work on his communication skills. One thing I can be certain of, is he's serious and passionate about this project, and excited about the prospect of coming back to the community.

That's all I have to say. In all honestly, if anyone is to give an objective input in this cluster of drama, I believe it's me, because of my knowledge of the people involved, and that I actually have something to lose here, namely my reputation as a GB runner. The rest, of course, is still up to you to decide.
Thank you! This was exactly the kind of input I was looking for. Definitely a level headed outsider take on the situation.
« Last Edit: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:10:10 by Zeelobby »

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« Reply #319 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:26:32 »
Alright folks, I'm going to try to give a full story here, at least from my own perspective.

I am the founder of Team Mechlovin'. You may know us as runners of PCB Group buys, including the Hannah 910, Infinity CE and Adelais (Alice). I hope this adds credibility to my input.

I first came in contact with the OP 3 years ago, when he was still working for MAB (MakeABoard), which of course, is now considered the ultimate scam by the local community. We hardly ever talked because he came out as a reserved (and somehow arrogant) personality, which I didn't have a problem with because all designers I knew were like that. In fact, I was in much more regular contact on a personal basis with that team's PCB designer, who is now my sole partner and technical consultant on Team Mechlovin's projects.

At the time, I was interested in getting a R96, and was told by the then MAB leader (Tuan Anh) that they had an "extra". Of course, I realised months later that it was probably someone's GB unit...I had also purchased some random custom from them a few months  before that, and for both times, every communication related to money went through Tuan Anh, not the OP (Bruce). When things fell out and MAB was exposed by the local community, Bruce was trying to defend his team and having heated arguments with other members, and he said some unsavoury things, which led to personal grudges until these days. From time to time, his name is brought up in online conversations as THE scammer, although his role in making MAB's financial decisions is very much up to debate. From my point of view, many of those personal attacks are merely fueled by the mentioned grudges.

A few months ago, he came to me for advice on this project due to the fact that I have been working with his former teammate on many successful GBs, and that I'm now the admin of a local mech community, separate from the one he fell out of favour a few years back. It's important to note that I had previously had face-to-face sessions with my partner about his involvement in MAB's shady business because I needed to understand who I was to work with, and naturally, Bruce's name came up as well in our conversations. From my partner's side of story, he was simply working for MAB as a PCB designer and never had any say in the financial aspects of the business. I trust my partner, completely. Later on, when I heard Bruce's story, many things checked out, including the part where he's still in debt worth thousands of USD in the form of Paypal chargeback, and he never received support from the one actually in charge of sales and finance, namely Tuan Anh.

So, how much did he know about the scamming activities and was he the one to blame in the total sh*tshow named MAB? I don't know for certain, and though I have information that forms my personal opinion towards this whole thing, it doesn't mean it has to be reflected onto yours. My first and only advice to him when he decided to come back, is that he must COME CLEAN and let the community decide. In his defence, he did mention where he comes from in the original post, but again, I agree that he should have told a clearer story right from the start, and he surely needs to work on his communication skills. One thing I can be certain of, is he's serious and passionate about this project, and excited about the prospect of coming back to the community.

That's all I have to say. In all honestly, if anyone is to give an objective input in this cluster of drama, I believe it's me, because of my knowledge of the people involved, and that I actually have something to lose here, namely my reputation as a GB runner. The rest, of course, is still up to you to decide.

Thank you for your input and time to write this down
Appreciated

Offline BruceDinh

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | update image prototype !
« Reply #320 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 09:30:39 »
Thank you everyone for giving me the opportunity to be my favorite.
Now back to the ORI topic

Some people are dissatisfied with the shape of the weight part, saying that it is related to sensitive issues of history. I decided to avoid it aside.
Design is one thing, but I respect everyone's feelings.

UPDATE DESIGN:
* change design weight part v3




Offline Jaxxstatic

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #321 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 12:57:55 »
I trust 1911/Team Mechlovin.
If they ran this, I'm sure it'd be smooth.
« Last Edit: Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:46:44 by Jaxxstatic »

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #322 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 14:48:08 »
I much preferred the design purity of the circles and did not have a problem with it.  I appreciate you might want to change but I just wanted you to know that from a design perspective, your 1st idea was better.
I started with a Sinclair human flesh keyboard in 1980 and it has never stopped.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #323 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 15:27:39 »
Ok, I edited my first reply, but screw it.
It's pertinent.
And design-wise, a penis drawn in the golden ratio would have "purity," but is still a stupid thing to put on a keyboard.
So is anything alluding to Japanese imperialist symbols.
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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #324 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 19:08:23 »
Ok, I edited my first reply, but screw it.
It's pertinent.
And design-wise, a penis drawn in the golden ratio would have "purity," but is still a stupid thing to put on a keyboard.
So is anything alluding to Japanese imperialist symbols.
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Well said.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #325 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 21:08:22 »
+ add some mark in bottom case




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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #326 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:06:55 »
IMO the previous weight design with the circle looks better than the new one.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #327 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:24:42 »
I like the square better anyway. More of an origami sun.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #328 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:30:39 »
I wish the internal weight would be wider for more refined acoustic typing sound

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #329 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:30:08 »
Ok, I edited my first reply, but screw it.
It's pertinent.
And design-wise, a penis drawn in the golden ratio would have "purity," but is still a stupid thing to put on a keyboard.
So is anything alluding to Japanese imperialist symbols.
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I do understand your point, I just preferred the way the circles looked.  I can live with whatever.
I started with a Sinclair human flesh keyboard in 1980 and it has never stopped.

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #330 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 10:52:44 »
I am very pleased to be working with GMK Sumi on social media. Thank you FaKe_VirTual (host gmk sumi) for trusting me.

Below is a combination of GMK Sumi and Ori 87, please enjoy.
Image rendered by kingk22.

ORI X GMK SUMI

Album: https://imgur.com/a/Qp1P5M1

More update for ORI 87:

 Currently, I am still waiting for the 3rd prototype to be completed so I can test it again, recording video for sound tests.

Therefore, GB will not have a calendar if my product is not complete, if necessary will have a fourth prototype.


But, I will still predict the day for you to follow along:
 - 12/6 : pick up prototype v3
 - 13/6 : assemble
 - 16/6 : Video sound test
 - 18/6 : GB


Expected price : 550$ ( kit + TX bag )

The raffle will include:
 ē 15 slots for Worldwide [ Western union // Paypal ]
 ē 5 slots for local market ( VN) [ Western union // Cash ]
 Vickrey Auctions :
ē 2 slot after GB ( not sure )

Thank you for reading.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #331 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 12:02:42 »
Love, love, love this keyboard design.

Not too keen on the new diamond shaped sun.
While I can't ignore the feelings of those who understandably relate an Origami (Japanese) logo, combined with a red sun with rays emanating from it, to the Japanese naval flag or Japan's war crimes in WWII, I think maybe a semi-circle design could resolve this issue.

The centerline of the keyboard base basically functions as a horizon anyway, so showing a full circular sun seems a bit off designwise.

Another option might be something like this, where the bottom half is a kind of reflection in water:


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Re: [IC] ORI 87 by ORI.CLUB | GASKET | WEIGHT DESIGN V3 update !
« Reply #332 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 13:07:38 »
I am very pleased to be working with GMK Sumi on social media. Thank you FaKe_VirTual (host gmk sumi) for trusting me.

Below is a combination of GMK Sumi and Ori 87, please enjoy.
Image rendered by kingk22.

ORI X GMK SUMI
Show Image

Album: https://imgur.com/a/Qp1P5M1

More update for ORI 87:

 Currently, I am still waiting for the 3rd prototype to be completed so I can test it again, recording video for sound tests.

Therefore, GB will not have a calendar if my product is not complete, if necessary will have a fourth prototype.


But, I will still predict the day for you to follow along:
 - 12/6 : pick up prototype v3
 - 13/6 : assemble
 - 16/6 : Video sound test
 - 18/6 : GB


Expected price : 550$ ( kit + TX bag )

The raffle will include:
 ē 15 slots for Worldwide [ Western union // Paypal ]
 ē 5 slots for local market ( VN) [ Western union // Cash ]
 Vickrey Auctions :
ē 2 slot after GB ( not sure )

Thank you for reading.  :thumb:

Every new image and bit of information keeps my hope alive for this project! It's been a joy to follow all this time ^_^