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Offline fromjuanm

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:34:18 »
What is the average weight of the 60% case with brass plate? Looking to see how heavy this case will be.

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« Reply #101 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:50:26 »
What is the average weight of the 60% case with brass plate? Looking to see how heavy this case will be.

please read the product page, all there.

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:52:10 »
Alps support, or compatibility with H87a PCBs?

I've looked at the H87a. It appears to me it should be compatible, but I can't really say for sure.

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« Reply #103 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:50:09 »
Been following the IC for a while, put my order in for a 75% , looking forward to this  :thumb:

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« Reply #104 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 20:07:31 »
Very excited to see happening! I just put in an order for a 75!

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« Reply #105 on: Sun, 03 May 2020, 22:04:16 »
Damn am I the only one ordering 65% with 2 blockers?

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« Reply #106 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 00:18:43 »
Sounds like a great choice too. I just like my F keys and arrows too much!

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« Reply #107 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 00:57:21 »
Hi. Was wondering what the weight of the HMKB-80 would be w/ brass plate? The weight listed seems to be for the standard plate.

Thanks!

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:08:38 »
Can we get some pics of what the bottom and inside of these cases look like?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103257.msg2861577#msg2861577

screw access holes in the corners will get smaller. they don't need to be that big.

That's much more helpful, thanks!
But still, can there be some views of the inside? like inner sides of the bottom/top case,
And, most importantly, picture showing how pcb and plate are mounted.
Sorry if those are already displayed somewhere that I missed, please throw a link.
Thanks again.

Update:
I found mounting animation at https://heavymetalkeyboards.com/
structure is pretty clearly shown there, but still can't find photos of the actual inside.
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 May 2020, 04:19:43 by lz2019 »

Offline honoka

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« Reply #109 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:33:36 »
Hi. Was wondering what the weight of the HMKB-80 would be w/ brass plate? The weight listed seems to be for the standard plate.

Thanks!
if you compare the density of the two materials you will be able to determine if there is any real difference in weight. volume is constant.
If I remember correctly brass is just above 8000kg/m^3. steel is varies but is generally also close to that.
« Last Edit: Mon, 04 May 2020, 03:53:52 by honoka »

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« Reply #110 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:41:39 »
Thinking about stainless steel version and then polish it to shine. Did somebody else think about doing this?

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:08:08 »
Can we get some pics of what the bottom and inside of these cases look like?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103257.msg2861577#msg2861577

screw access holes in the corners will get smaller. they don't need to be that big.

That's much more helpful, thanks!
But still, can there be some views of the inside? like inner sides of the bottom/top case,
And, most importantly, picture showing how pcb and plate are mounted.
Sorry if those are already displayed somewhere that I missed, please throw a link.
Thanks again.

Update:
I found mounting animation at https://heavymetalkeyboards.com/
structure is pretty clearly shown there, but still can't find photos of the actual inside.

I'm not really sure what you expect to see inside? There is just the plate and the PCB inside, noting else hides there. You can find another picture here, first page of the IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103257.msg2829764#msg2829764

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:11:21 »
Hi. Was wondering what the weight of the HMKB-80 would be w/ brass plate? The weight listed seems to be for the standard plate.

Thanks!

that difference is so tiny it is lost after rounding. the weight on the product page is therefore the same. maybe add about 0.05kg for the brass plate version.

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« Reply #113 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:38:59 »
Most earlybirds got their gift code and used it. Anyone who hasn't got it jet, PM, DM or Email me.

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« Reply #114 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:40:43 »
 :thumb: already used for stainles TKL - thank for the code and the gb

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« Reply #115 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:00:33 »
curious...why no esd protection for the pcb?

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« Reply #116 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:06:22 »
Maartenwut PCB are all ESD protected (and fuse). What are you talking about ? Did you check the actual GB shop?
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« Reply #117 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:19:14 »
Maartenwut PCB are all ESD protected (and fuse). What are you talking about ? Did you check the actual GB shop?

i was in the shop, but i thought i read in the features that they didnt have them. i think i just read it too fast and combined it with the line below about no in-switch LEDs. my mistake.

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« Reply #118 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:20:42 »
I don't blame you. I do it often myself.
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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:58:28 »
Wow, very thoughtful and detailed GB info, and nice presentation too. I'm in for a board!

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« Reply #120 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:07:27 »
Somebody thinking of polishing the stainless steel?

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« Reply #121 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:35:31 »
Beige 80% wkl for me wohoo \o/

I'm gonna call it the Model N

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« Reply #122 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:55:23 »
When I woke up today, I wasn't planning on buying a keyboard  :) But such a unique project at this price, I got a WKL stainless steel  :thumb:

Same here. HMKB-80.
I found the treasure of Mêlée Island and all I got was this stupid signature
Custom color process

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« Reply #123 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 01:27:50 »
Hello, thank you for the excellent GB! Question: Bolts on all renders/photos they are black. What a bit sticking contrast on Beige/Yellow boards. Is there a chance to get yellow bolts for yellow keeb and beige bolts for beige keeb?

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« Reply #124 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 02:01:40 »
Can we get some pics of what the bottom and inside of these cases look like?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103257.msg2861577#msg2861577

screw access holes in the corners will get smaller. they don't need to be that big.

That's much more helpful, thanks!
But still, can there be some views of the inside? like inner sides of the bottom/top case,
And, most importantly, picture showing how pcb and plate are mounted.
Sorry if those are already displayed somewhere that I missed, please throw a link.
Thanks again.

Update:
I found mounting animation at https://heavymetalkeyboards.com/
structure is pretty clearly shown there, but still can't find photos of the actual inside.

I'm not really sure what you expect to see inside? There is just the plate and the PCB inside, noting else hides there. You can find another picture here, first page of the IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103257.msg2829764#msg2829764

That fills the gap in my mind I guess, thanks!

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« Reply #125 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 02:34:56 »
What kind of stabilizers possible to install?

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 02:39:01 »
Classic PCB mount Stabs.
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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 19:07:31 »
Hello, thank you for the excellent GB! Question: Bolts on all renders/photos they are black. What a bit sticking contrast on Beige/Yellow boards. Is there a chance to get yellow bolts for yellow keeb and beige bolts for beige keeb?
Plastik has previously stated his preference for the black bolts. And IMO, they look nice being black.


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Offline wing1098

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« Reply #128 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 04:28:28 »
when will the group buy end?

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« Reply #129 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 05:00:52 »
2 95% and 1 extra pcb :thumb:
Can't wait for receving the kit!

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« Reply #130 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 06:53:26 »
Guys. What if I don't know how to solder?

I want the 95 in beige but have no idea what to do about this. Can I pay someone to solder some switches on for me? I'm not cool like you guys.

Offline malde

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« Reply #131 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 07:47:54 »
when will the group buy end?
Since reading is hard, I'll give you a second try by copying directly from the FAQ in the OP:

Q: How long will the GB run?
A: About one month, I estimate until the end of may or start of june.


Guys. What if I don't know how to solder?

I want the 95 in beige but have no idea what to do about this. Can I pay someone to solder some switches on for me? I'm not cool like you guys.

You'll always read something in the likes of "just solder it, it isn't hard". Which is actually true, first I was afraid of doing it myself, but after the first few switches you'll notice it actually is pretty easy.
On the other hand, depending on where you are located, there is probably a makerspace or some community member around who'll assist or do it for/with you.

Offline Azurewrath

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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 10:24:51 »
Guys. What if I don't know how to solder?

I want the 95 in beige but have no idea what to do about this. Can I pay someone to solder some switches on for me? I'm not cool like you guys.
As malde already said, of course you can pay someone local or try to get help from someone for this. But then again, soldering isn't hard and it's a handy skill to have. You also don't need much for a small project like soldering on a few switches:
- soldering iron (The Miniware ones are really good and inexpensive portable/beginner irons. TS80 if you have a USB Quickcharge Power Bank or charger and TS100 if you prefer barrel jacks and more power.)
- solder wire (0.5 to 1mm, leaded is easier if you can still get it)
- some isopropyl alcohol and an old toothbrush to clean the flux residue
That's it.

Offline funkmon

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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 23:01:14 »
Oh man, where am I going to buy a toothbrush?! This sounds hard! :P.

Okay, I'm going to see if I can apprehend a soldering iron in the coming weeks and give it a go, or find some nerd who'll do it for me for like $50. I'll be back with an update.

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« Reply #134 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 02:00:18 »
don't get leaded solder, as a beginner i doubt you'll have the ventilation to suck all the smoke away.. and you don't wanna get braindamage

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« Reply #135 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 02:20:37 »
You... won’t get brain damage from leaded solder. The fumes are the same as for non leaded solder, it’s rosin. You’d have to be heating the solder to impossible temps to get lead fumes. Your not getting any lead into your system unless you’re licking the solder. Lead free solder will require higher temperatures, you’re more likely to want to use flux, and in general it will be slightly more difficult for a newbie.

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« Reply #136 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:11:00 »
Missed the YAS62 gb, any chance of making another run? :confused: :confused:

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« Reply #137 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:30:07 »
I can't find the post, but I'm pretty sure someone asked about the height at the front.
Look:

241903-0

Front edge of the keycap and front edge of the case. Distance to ground, feet included.
« Last Edit: Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:32:38 by PlastikSchnittstelle »

Offline PlastikSchnittstelle

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« Reply #138 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:34:27 »
Missed the YAS62 gb, any chance of making another run? :confused: :confused:

Sorry, that's it with YAS. It is no more.

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #139 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:39:29 »
Guys. What if I don't know how to solder?

I want the 95 in beige but have no idea what to do about this. Can I pay someone to solder some switches on for me? I'm not cool like you guys.

Just in case you do learn how to solder, you will be disappointed. Because if I remember correctly, when I learned it, I did not feel any cooler than before :(

If not:
There are quite a few who offer to build you the the keyboard for commission. What I have seen, I say, they all do e very good job and they wor is worth every penny.

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #140 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 20:44:47 »
Debating getting the HMKB-80 in Black or Yellow, but regardless I'll be ordering one as a birthday present to myself.

Super stoked

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[GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 07:21:14 »
In for a black HMKB60 (HHKB) without a PCB. Do hope DZ60/YD60MQ will fit alright.

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« Reply #142 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 07:23:49 »
Guys. What if I don't know how to solder?

I want the 95 in beige but have no idea what to do about this. Can I pay someone to solder some switches on for me? I'm not cool like you guys.

Just in case you do learn how to solder, you will be disappointed. Because if I remember correctly, when I learned it, I did not feel any cooler than before :(

If not:
There are quite a few who offer to build you the the keyboard for commission. What I have seen, I say, they all do e very good job and they wor is worth every penny.
Soldering is a boring skill, gets old pretty quickly. Desoldering ... is still so much fun for me as all I have is a solder sucker pump thing, no fancy FR301 desoldering stations (cause they are vvv expensive).

My current score is 2 PCBs ruined and 1 preserved lol

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« Reply #143 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 13:38:15 »
Hi.  Noob here.  So if I buy tkl with brass plate, I assume I need to purchase plate mount switches & stabilizers, correct?   I thought I read someone said pcb mount.

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 14:02:18 »
Hi.  Noob here.  So if I buy tkl with brass plate, I assume I need to purchase plate mount switches & stabilizers, correct?   I thought I read someone said pcb mount.

Your stabilizers need to be PCB mount for this. The switches can be plate or PCB mount. The only difference between these is that the PCB mount versions have extra two little legs that help them stick into the PCB. You should always get PCB mount switches with the extra two legs, even if they are held in a plate. Don't bother about "plate mount switches".

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Re: [GB] HEAVY METAL KEYBOARDS
« Reply #145 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 14:56:43 »
Hi.  Noob here.  So if I buy tkl with brass plate, I assume I need to purchase plate mount switches & stabilizers, correct?   I thought I read someone said pcb mount.

Your stabilizers need to be PCB mount for this. The switches can be plate or PCB mount. The only difference between these is that the PCB mount versions have extra two little legs that help them stick into the PCB. You should always get PCB mount switches with the extra two legs, even if they are held in a plate. Don't bother about "plate mount switches".

Great comment; to expand on the "why", if you have PCB mount switches but end up needing plate-mount switches, you can easily clip the extra legs off.

If the reverse is true (have plate-mount switches for a PCB mount setup) the switches are incompatible.

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« Reply #146 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 15:59:19 »
excellent cutomer support!
name+pic is absolute priceless!!!

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« Reply #147 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 18:52:42 »
Is it possible to get updated #s for the GB? Just curious how this GB is doing.

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« Reply #148 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 04:09:05 »
Am I the only one excited to hear some initial sales numbers? :)

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« Reply #149 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 06:22:36 »
I can't seem to find the "non pcb 60% version" in the store. Or is that the one that costs 140 eur?