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[IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:18:45 »


Welcome to my GMK Evil Dolch Interest check!


Hey everyone! S3LQ here, hoping everyone is doing good in this pandemic, I am at least holding up. I recently joined this hobby and think this is great! Love how welcoming the community is, and how helpful people are! So since I've basically been stuck here in my home in Norway, I thought why not combine my 6 years experience of designing and try to design a keycap set and even some deskmats!



Fill out the form here: https://forms.gle/dCyfGL4aqWNUo9ZcA






Groupbuy goes live July 22nd!





Inspiration

I see a lot of designers bringing inspiration from a certain theme, for me, it was quite different. I do obviously have inspirations, but not inspirations I thought it would be cool to design the theme around. So rather I chose a name. I wanted to design a set called "Zoom", I thought it was a great name and I just kept on designing after the name. After posting the IC I got a lot of feedback about the name. And after reading through a lot of you guys' feedback, I figured a name change was the move. I wanted a fitting name for the colors and novelties. So I chose the name, Evil Dolch! 







[Core] Module






[Novelties] Module






[Space Bar] Module






[NorDeUk] Module





[Deskmat] Designs










[Colors] Used







Vendors and Prices








Renders


GMK Evil Dolch Desk Setup


GMK Evil Dolch on Iron165


GMK Evil Dolch on Iron180


GMK Evil Dolch on Eclipse


GMK Evil Dolch on Tind





Updates we've done

- Updated Core Module to have Alpha Coloured Pipe key
- Updated Space Bar Module to include an extra "B" key
- Updated NorDeUk Module to include the missing UK keys
- Improved lightning in a few renders
- Updated name from GMK Zoom to GMK Evil Dolch
- Changed Branding
- Updated new red to RAL 3004
- Updated new white to RAL 7035
- Updated NorDeUK module
- Updated Base module
- Added all needed keys for NorDeUk kit
- Added a 1.25u key to space bar kit
- Changed to GMK Stock colors
- Updated ESC Novelty
- New kit renders
- New board renders
- Changed icon from "Warning" to "Evil" icon on deskmat 1

TO-DO

- More and updated renders with new colors
- Read more feedback and adjust to the community's liking





Feedback and Intrest

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Special thanks to:

Balloz for great ideas and feedback
Snurrebassen for amazing renders
Full for teaching me about the process of making a keycap set
The Norwegian Keyboard Community!







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Re: [IC] GMK Zoom
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:21:09 »
First!

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Re: [IC] GMK Zoom
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:21:53 »
Wow. Those alphas look good

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Re: [IC] GMK Zoom
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:23:27 »
Interesting.
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Re: [IC] GMK Zoom
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:23:57 »
Looks good but I would prefer brighter legends for the modifiers.

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[IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:24:34 »
You have to be stupidly unaware of your surroundings if you really just named this GMK Zoom and don’t think people will associate it with ZOOM.
« Last Edit: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:28:59 by dimo »

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Re: [IC] GMK Zoom
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:28:21 »
Wow. Those alphas look good
Thanks! Glad you like it!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:32:03 »
 ;D
killer set!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:32:41 »

[NorDeUk] Module

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There is currently no UK keys in the NorDeUK kit.


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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:34:10 »
;D
killer set!
Killer renders buddy! Couldn't be done without you!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:36:36 »

[NorDeUk] Module

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There is currently no UK keys in the NorDeUK kit.

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I'm sorry, will fix instantly!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:46:01 »
I don't know if it's only me, but when I heard Zoom, the first thing comes to my mind is https://zoom.us/  :D

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:52:59 »
Interested, colors are awesome and novelty’s are awesome!


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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:55:35 »
-eyy sorry guys I was muted!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:58:54 »
I don't know if it's only me, but when I heard Zoom, the first thing comes to my mind is https://zoom.us/  :D
Yeah, seems as a lot of people gets confused by the name  :p Might be this quarantine that makes people think of Zoom as something else  :))

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:04:45 »

[NorDeUk] Module

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There is currently no UK keys in the NorDeUK kit.

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Came here to say this (hey, cool diagram!).


There IS one UK key, though: R4 \| in the base kit. But all the others are missing.


Other than this error, that base kit is the best I've seen in a while.

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:08:10 »

[NorDeUk] Module

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There is currently no UK keys in the NorDeUK kit.

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Came here to say this (hey, cool diagram!).


There IS one UK key, though: R4 \| in the base kit. But all the others are missing.


Other than this error, that base kit is the best I've seen in a while.
Thanks! We're fixing the NorDeUK kit right as we speak! Will be updated any time soon!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:17:17 »
Consider adding an extra B (either in the base kit or, better, in the space bars kit). Consider adding an alpha-colored F13 IF people ask for it. Otherwise, keep the base kit exactly as is right now.

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:24:11 »
Don't know if I'll join this with the two kits I'm already planning to buy, but I do think it looks awesome!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:25:12 »
Finally a proper maroon set. Sexy and definite in for one

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:35:00 »
Looking great S3LQ! The deskmat is porn!


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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:38:57 »
Looking great S3LQ! The deskmat is porn!
Thanks buddy!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:39:19 »
Don't know if I'll join this with the two kits I'm already planning to buy, but I do think it looks awesome!
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:39:35 »
Finally a proper maroon set. Sexy and definite in for one
Thanks! Very glad you like it!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:50:07 »
Normally I have to think about a set to determine if I like it or not but not this one. I really like the look of this set and honestly surprised no one has dont these colors yet. Looks amazing and I am in love with that first deskmat design.

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:52:36 »
Cool set but those renders have a lot of artificial shine to it, hard for me to gauge my actual interest with that.

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:56:26 »
Looks nice! do you consider making alpha legends red/maroon as well?

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:12:19 »
Looks nice! do you consider making alpha legends red/maroon as well?
Hey! If you leave your request in the form I would greatly appreciate it!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:36:37 »
Cool set but those renders have a lot of artificial shine to it, hard for me to gauge my actual interest with that.
Thanks for the feedback! We are going to be updating the renders, keep the same renders but improve lightning and shining!

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« Reply #30 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:37:57 »
Looks nice! do you consider making alpha legends red/maroon as well?
Hey! If you leave your request in the form I would greatly appreciate it!

Submitted, thank you!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:57:16 »
Cool set but those renders have a lot of artificial shine to it, hard for me to gauge my actual interest with that.
Yeah I see that now too, I got carried away.
We're gonna update the renders soon!  :)

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:41:20 »
Pretty cool. Solid 8-8.5/10. I bet it will do well.

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:46:54 »
Glad to see Auramech running a gmk set! Custom keyboard is expanding in Canada!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:49:18 »
Pretty cool. Solid 8-8.5/10. I bet it will do well.
Thanks! I hope it will do well aswell!  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:49:54 »
Glad to see Auramech running a gmk set! Custom keyboard is expanding in Canada!
Aura is a great guy, I'm pleased to get the opportunity to work with him!

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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM (Updated)
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 17:57:14 »
why not use stock colors. CR is basically jet black. RO1 is burgundy or pretty close to what looks like your red wine. I'm sure the others arent too far off as well
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Re: [IC] GMK ZOOM (Updated)
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 18:02:50 »
why not use stock colors. CR is basically get black. RO1 is burgundy or pretty close to what looks like your red wine. I'm sure the others arent too far off as well
I did go through a lot of color matching and checking what fit well together. But I just didn't find a good match with the stock colors, I couldn't find what I was looking for, so I tested out with Pantone and ral. And found out that RAL was what I was looking for!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:09:50 »
Name Updated! Thanks for inputs  :p

Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:14:13 »
Good name.

two ideas that probably don't go anywhere:
-If you made an ortho 40s kit, and you put red split bars in it, I'd probably go in for those.
-evil alphas? red legends vs the light color thats there?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:16:05 »
So the rename happened! I love it man, def in for a set when this goes live. :thumb:
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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:18:52 »
So the rename happened! I love it man, def in fo a set when this goes live. :thumb:
Thanks Rob! Appreciate the support  :p

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:35:17 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:49:11 »
Why is it named Evil Dolch?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 04:13:34 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 04:14:40 »
Why is it named Evil Dolch?
I renamed from Zoom to Evil Dolch so it would fit better. Evil since of the red theme and style, and dolch because of the colorway

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 04:57:05 »
My favourite shade of red, looks awesome

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 05:44:27 »
My favourite shade of red, looks awesome
Thanks! Glad you liked it  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:03:12 »
I like colors.
But layout support is not enough for me.
Would need at least better ISO support:
- R3 Tilde/left-single-quote
- R3 AT/left-single-quote
- R3 Tilde/hash
Any hopes to add French and/or Russian and/or Arabic? (also in ISO layout?).

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:21:46 »
Okay, coming in for another pass...  ;)

Core module:
- R1 \| there is a mod-colored version, but not an alpha-colored version (I would say the latter is more important than the former).
- Consider having mod-colored F1..F4 and F9..F12 keys (in addition to the alpha-colored ones; perhaps in a child kit?).

Nordeuk module:
- The AltGr keys are missing.
- The kit has too many alphas missing... but there are too many present if you go through the dreadful "ne tertiaries!" route. Notably, 2" is missing, although 2"² is present. Check out http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/#NORDEUKPPP for a full reference for your module.

Liquify deskmat design: lovely. I'll definitely be getting one.


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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:58:07 »
Small thing I wanted to day is that white legends on the burgundy keys would be much brighter and pop off. What do you think?
Anyways awesome set :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:11:02 »
Okay, coming in for another pass...  ;)

Core module:
- R1 \| there is a mod-colored version, but not an alpha-colored version (I would say the latter is more important than the former).
- Consider having mod-colored F1..F4 and F9..F12 keys (in addition to the alpha-colored ones; perhaps in a child kit?).

Nordeuk module:
- The AltGr keys are missing.
- The kit has too many alphas missing... but there are too many present if you go through the dreadful "ne tertiaries!" route. Notably, 2" is missing, although 2"² is present. Check out http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/#NORDEUKPPP for a full reference for your module.

Liquify deskmat design: lovely. I'll definitely be getting one.
Hey, thanks for feedback! We are working on updating the module!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:13:23 »
Small thing I wanted to day is that white legends on the burgundy keys would be much brighter and pop off. What do you think?
Anyways awesome set :)
Thanks for feedback, that's could for sure be experimented with!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:52:03 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:55:01 »
Great choice on the rename. Good branding. Actually makes me want it more. Goes to show that we are all mindless automatons bending to the irresistible will of marketing 😳🧟‍♂️

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:16:43 »
Great choice on the rename. Good branding. Actually makes me want it more. Goes to show that we are all mindless automatons bending to the irresistible will of marketing 😳🧟‍♂️
Thanks! Glad you liked it  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:31:56 »
Hey!

Always nice to see a fat nordeuk kit! And lucky me i am also diggin the set  :cool:

A few remarks, I could see on your update your are going full on ++ style.

I am just afraid making the kit so big with custom colors, it will bump up the price to much. Better if you cut off the support for FO and the half ISL and PT. ( if not to many oppositions ofc)
But this will make the kit hopefully alot cheaper and have a better chance of being picked up  :thumb:


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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:27:50 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

Now it's too big! What do you Scandinavians want with Portugal, anyway?! ;D

(also, <> in the NordeUk kit can be taken off, since it's already in the base kit)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:41:02 »
that deskmat is so niceeeee

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 11:42:42 »
that deskmat is so niceeeee
Thanks! Glad you like it  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:42:48 »
Hey!

Always nice to see a fat nordeuk kit! And lucky me i am also diggin the set  :cool:

A few remarks, I could see on your update your are going full on ++ style.

I am just afraid making the kit so big with custom colors, it will bump up the price to much. Better if you cut off the support for FO and the half ISL and PT. ( if not to many oppositions ofc)
But this will make the kit hopefully alot cheaper and have a better chance of being picked up  :thumb:
Hey, thanks for the feedback! Whenever I find vendors and get the price for core module and the other modules I will go through a process of making the set affordable, or "normal GMK price".

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 16:57:11 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

Now it's too big! What do you Scandinavians want with Portugal, anyway?! ;D

(also, <> in the NordeUk kit can be taken off, since it's already in the base kit)
Hey, thanks for the heads up! Will fix that  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:47:09 »
Looks good
« Last Edit: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:49:40 by ogWalker »

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:57:50 »
the red goes surprisingly well with the dolch key colors

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:06:31 »
Looks good
Thanks! Glad you like it  :-* Make sure to fill the form if you are interested!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:06:42 »
the red goes surprisingly well with the dolch key colors
Thanks! Glad you like it  :-* Make sure to fill the form if you are interested!  :p

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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:47:24 »
Thanks for all the feeback! Make sure to fill out the form as well! https://forms.gle/dCyfGL4aqWNUo9ZcA

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:49:58 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 05:55:07 »
/in for a Base and Nordeuk+ kit!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 05:59:50 »
/in for a Base and Nordeuk+ kit!  :thumb:
Thanks! Nice to hear! Make sure to fill out the form  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:04:13 »
Hey guys! Thanks for all the feedback, make sure to fill out the form https://forms.gle/KP3CHa3gBe3JcjUr8 That helps a lot! We also added some more renders of how the TKL Ability is on the Iron180!

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:08:25 »
I loved to see the Nordeuk++ PT caps, since I'm Portuguese  :thumb: However I don't know how the alphas are going to be and I'm afraid the RAL7047 lettering color can be too dark, why not using white color for lettering?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:45:44 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:22:47 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:27:01 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:29:19 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:31:02 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

Just determine which national layouts will be included in the kit and then we'll check the resulting kit for correctness. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:50:18 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

Just determine which national layouts will be included in the kit and then we'll check the resulting kit for correctness. :)
Yes! Thanks :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:13:23 »
Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?
(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

that's wrong, the proper PT cap it's the , which was already included in the NORDEUK++ and this kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:29:00 »
Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?
(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

that's wrong, the proper PT cap it's the , which was already included in the NORDEUK++ and this kit.

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That's wrong × wrong (i.e.: right), as the Portuguese (Portugal) national layout specifies a pipe character (U+007C) and not a broken bar (U+00A6) on the E00 key; the broken bar might have started out as a visual distinction but has evolved into a separate character and must not be confused with the proper vertical bar ("pipe").

This set uses | as the graphical representation of the vertical bar everywhere in the base kit and the intended NordDeUK kit; the only other instance of the ¦ glyph is seen in the `¬¦ keycap, where it DOES represent the broken bar. Therefore, the R1 backslash-pipe should be \| and not .

See http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/#ptPT and http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/KBD163.pdf for further reference.


(Sorry about the pedantry, but technical correctness is technical correctness and consistency is... consistency)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:37:34 »
again, you are wrong! I have dozens of portuguese keyboards and should be. please refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_keyboard_layout

here's also some of my examples from Cherry and other boards:









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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:07:13 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
Like I give a **** if the bar is broken or not. Seriously?!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:23:54 »
again, you are wrong!

You must be new here...

I have dozens of portuguese keyboards and should be. please refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_keyboard_layout

In ALL those keyboards, the ¦ glyph is being used as a visual stand-in for the vertical bar, which is how the broken bar came to be in the first place.

And now let's see a Portuguese keyboard that doesn't do that:


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Remember: when pressing the Shift-E00 key, the (software-defined) Portuguese national layout produces a U+007C character, not a U+00A6, despite whatever might be printed in the keycap itself.


In this set in particular, the renders show the | glyph being used in all of the keycaps where a vertical bar is present, with this one exception, and one more keycap where the ¦ glyph is used to represent the broken bar. This is different from, say, GMK Jamón or GMK Lux, where the ¦ is used to represent the vertical bar (as was its primitive origin).

Ultimately, for the set's internal consistency, the R1 \| keycap should use a proper vertical bar instead of a broken bar...

... but come to think of it, why is R1 \| present in the NordeUK(Po) kit in the first place? The base kit ought to include an (alpha-colored) R1 \| key anyway, making this one redundant! It would seem we're both fighting the wrong fight here...  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:30:14 »
kono.store will be the US vendor for this set! Looking forward to being working with them! GB Date will come soon, will hopefully be within this summer! I hope people are looking forward to this! Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/6LRW7qjJtPspckqX8 to show your interest!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 12:38:01 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:08:08 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 18:52:10 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
:thumb:
Gotcha, so has no purpose and definitely doesn’t fit the theme in any way.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:41:39 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
:thumb:
Gotcha, so has no purpose and definitely doesn’t fit the theme in any way.
You are right, might not fit the theme properly. But I figured it was a nice looking touch. If I see more people comment on this being changed, I will do so. Thanks for the feedback buddy!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 21:21:47 »
With dolch R5 and modern dolch R2 around this corner. This is a little too much dolch. But I dig it. Just not enough to justify buying it after I get all the modo R2 kits

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 06:06:23 »
With dolch R5 and modern dolch R2 around this corner. This is a little too much dolch. But I dig it. Just not enough to justify buying it after I get all the modo R2 kits
I can see that, need to find a fitting time where no other dolch sets run! Thanks

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:53:53 »
dailyclack.com will be the OCE vendor for this set! Looking forward to being working with them! I hope people are looking forward to this! Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/6LRW7qjJtPspckqX8 to show your interest!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:27:45 »
Really nice looking.
I will def. buy it.
Any chance to get some French AZERTY ISO keys ?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:29:42 »
Really nice looking.
I will def. buy it.
Any chance to get some French AZERTY ISO keys ?
Hey! Glad you like it! Please suggest that in the form as well  :p If this is something more people want, we will for sure consider it! Form: https://forms.gle/8wcV95DN4s5Gct9v9

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:16:20 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
Any answer?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:28:33 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
Any answer?
Hey! That could for sure be added, we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys. We want to make this affordable too, so we can't have too many keys in base kit, hope you understand! But please make sure to fill out the form with this feedback if you haven't  :p Form: https://forms.gle/kH5SbCoouve8pnVEA

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:41:37 »
we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys.
I'll look forward to those. Thank you.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 14:49:34 »
we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys.
I'll look forward to those. Thank you.
No worries  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 22:01:06 »
Why not just run this as a modifiers add-on kit? No need to run the alphas.
The modifiers are beautiful on their own.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 02:18:47 »
Why not just run this as a modifiers add-on kit? No need to run the alphas.
The modifiers are beautiful on their own.
Hey, thanks! That could be an option, if you check out the form, there is an option of running extra kits.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 06:28:52 »
We've gon through all the feedback here in the comments and in the form. We will be finalizing the kits, adding keys, and removing keys for the community's liking. We've also gotten a lot of feedback considering the legends, some say the alpha legends are too bright, and mod legends are too dark. So we will experiment with this and try to make it less contrast, but still, look nice!

For this first run, we want a base kit, and for eventually future runs we could run alpha kits with different colored alphas/legends (Like maroon-colored legends like people wanted) and mod kits! I hope this is understandable for people, and I hope this doesn't lose your interest.

Other than this, we are working with finalizing the kits, and we are also on the scout for an Asian vendor. Groupbuy date is still a bit unknown, but we hope to go live this summer! More info and updates will come soon. Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/HG3Yx5WFmwcyySpx8 to show your interest and get notified when GB goes live!

Thanks ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 08:36:36 »
A small suggestion regarding the NorDeUK kit: you may want to drop all of the sublegends on the keys. :) Currently the kit is quite large, and doing this will help reduce its size, since there are several keys that only differ in their tertiary legends and are otherwise duplicates. For example, the R4 <>, <>|, <>\; R1 2"@, 3#£, 4$€; etc. could all be removed if you decide to drop the sublegends. (The R4 <> can be dropped in either case, since it now exists in the base kit.)

And speaking of which, you can also drop the R4 \| in the base kit; it isn't necessary with the R4 <> around.

The kits look good otherwise, both in terms of size and compatibility.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 08:40:32 »
A small suggestion regarding the NorDeUK kit: you may want to drop all of the sublegends on the keys. :) Currently the kit is quite large, and doing this will help reduce its size, since there are several keys that only differ in their tertiary legends and are otherwise duplicates. For example, the R4 <>, <>|, <>\; R1 2"@, 3#£, 4$€; etc. could all be removed if you decide to drop the sublegends. (The R4 <> can be dropped in either case, since it now exists in the base kit.)

And speaking of which, you can also drop the R4 \| in the base kit; it isn't necessary with the R4 <> around.

The kits look good otherwise, both in terms of size and compatibility.
Hey! Thanks for this, this will help us with finalizing the sets!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 (Added Vendors)
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 10:14:15 »
if you decide to remove the sub-legends, then the Norderuk+ addon is no longer a multiple language kit support but a "universal and defective" one, which is kind of pointless IMHO.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 (Added Vendors)
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 10:16:47 »
if you decide to remove the sub-legends, then the Norderuk+ addon is no longer a multiple language kit support but a "universal and defective" one, which is kind of pointless IMHO.
I won't remove the sub-legends, but I will cut down duplicates and unnecessary keys I've added.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 15:02:41 »
if you decide to remove the sub-legends, then the Norderuk+ addon is no longer a multiple language kit support but a "universal and defective" one, which is kind of pointless IMHO.

While this is true, keep in mind that having a “universal and defective” kit can also mean having a kit that reaches MOQ, as opposed to one that does not. This is GMK, after all; NorDeUK kits usually reach MOQ only in exceptionally popular sets (1000+ base kit sales). I don't know if this set can reach those numbers, and for that reason, it might not be a risk that's worth taking. But at the end of the day, it's up to the runner to decide.

I would just like to recommend keeping the following in mind: Would you rather fully cover the main part your intl layout and forgo the sublegends for the less frequently used characters — or not cover it at all (i.e. only cover it with US ISO)?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 00:53:17 »
if you decide to remove the sub-legends, then the Norderuk+ addon is no longer a multiple language kit support but a "universal and defective" one, which is kind of pointless IMHO.

While this is true, keep in mind that having a “universal and defective” kit can also mean having a kit that reaches MOQ, as opposed to one that does not. This is GMK, after all; NorDeUK kits usually reach MOQ only in exceptionally popular sets (1000+ base kit sales). I don't know if this set can reach those numbers, and for that reason, it might not be a risk that's worth taking. But at the end of the day, it's up to the runner to decide.

I would just like to recommend keeping the following in mind: Would you rather fully cover the main part your intl layout and forgo the sublegends for the less frequently used characters — or not cover it at all (i.e. only cover it with US ISO)?
Thanks! I’ll think about what I’d like. A lot og people interested in the NorDeUk kit, but reaching moq is another part.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 (Added Vendors)
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:23:58 »
I am a sucker for burgundy.  I think this will be my first GMK purchase.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 (Added Vendors)
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:26:31 »
I am a sucker for burgundy.  I think this will be my first GMK purchase.
Really nice to hear! The colors are being a bit updated, you will still get the burgundy feel, but a bit brighter!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:39:14 »
We have now updated the colors, new brighter red for accent, and legends of the mods. Also updated the white legends to a bit darker white. Other than that we have also finalized the different kits, we adjusted the NorDeUK kit, cut out some keys, and made it a proper NorDeUK kit. We also fixed a few keys on the base kit and updated colors on the deskmats. Other than that, we are working on updating the on-board renders as well! Thanks for all feedback, and I hope this is a positive change for the community!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:10:47 »
Still any chance to get some FR keys ?  ;D

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« Reply #110 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:13:04 »
Still any chance to get some FR keys ?  ;D
Considering we run a NorDeUk kit, that would most likely not be a thing we would add, I'm sorry. Otherwise, make sure fill out the form with you wanting FR keys, and if there is a lot of people who want it, we will consider it!

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« Reply #111 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:14:34 »
Still any chance to get some FR keys ?  ;D
Considering we run a NorDeUk kit, that would most likely not be a thing we would add, I'm sorry. Otherwise, make sure fill out the form with you wanting FR keys, and if there is a lot of people who want it, we will consider it!

I did ! But no problem, we will see  ;)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:29:47 »
Still any chance to get some FR keys ?  ;D
Considering we run a NorDeUk kit, that would most likely not be a thing we would add, I'm sorry. Otherwise, make sure fill out the form with you wanting FR keys, and if there is a lot of people who want it, we will consider it!

I did ! But no problem, we will see  ;)
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:34:45 »
looks clean - interested

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« Reply #114 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:35:49 »
looks clean - interested
Thanks! Make sure to fill in the form if you are interested, and you will be notified whenever GB goes live!  :p

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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 18:29:29 »
You may want to include a 1.25u convex space key in the spacebar kit. This is useful for 2.75+1.25+2.25 split spacebar setups, which are very common, as well as for Alice-like ergo layouts. 1u space could be useful as well.

Perhaps four Enter novelties is too much? I'm not sure which of the two designs I prefer, but I know I probably wouldn't need both of them.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 00:48:48 »
You may want to include a 1.25u convex space key in the spacebar kit. This is useful for 2.75+1.25+2.25 split spacebar setups, which are very common, as well as for Alice-like ergo layouts. 1u space could be useful as well.

Perhaps four Enter novelties is too much? I'm not sure which of the two designs I prefer, but I know I probably wouldn't need both of them.

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That’s true! I will look into this and look for better sulitions!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 03:39:15 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 07:32:02 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
That's sad to hear, I'm trying to adjust it to bigger groups than each individual. Sorry it doesn't fit you  :confused:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:08:45 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Agreed. The extra cost was on the buyer anyway.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:10:44 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Agreed. The extra cost was on the buyer anyway.
We are working on this, if this is something the community really want, we could add these extra keys if you would like:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:11:46 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Would this be a better option for you?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:12:02 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Agreed. The extra cost was on the buyer anyway.

Whom the extra cost is on doesn't matter if the kit can't make MOQ.

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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:17:59 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Would this be a better option for you?
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What's really missing is the R4 angled brackets in a mod colour to complement the short left shift. I won't ever get full italian support, let alone the 142 layout, on NorDeUK kit but I can live with the missing keys.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:41:12 »
honestly I think people who presumably would buy the Norde kits, will buy it either if is cost less $10 or more $10. So I think a regular Nordeuk++ addon (like the one previously run by @RETURNISO and which cover more languages) would be a better choice for everyone and also can contribute to have more interesteds from the different countries.

but then, if most of the people have a different opinion please go ahead with the shorter Nordeuk addon!
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:46:17 »
since we went from Nordeuk++ to normal Nordeuk to make a $10 cheaper kit (sacrificing 13 caps for the remaining languages support), I no longer have interest on this. sorry!
Would this be a better option for you?
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What's really missing is the R4 angled brackets in a mod colour to complement the short left shift. I won't ever get full italian support, let alone the 142 layout, on NorDeUK kit but I can live with the missing keys.
Hey! That's fixed now! Will update any time soon   :p
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 BIG UPDATE (NEW COLORS)
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 12:58:27 »
honestly I think people who presumably would buy the Norde kits, will buy it either if is cost less $10 or more $10. So I think a regular Nordeuk++ addon (like the one previously run by @RETURNISO and which cover more languages) would be a better choice for everyone and also can contribute to have more interesteds from the different countries.

but then, if most of the people have a different opinion please go ahead with the shorter Nordeuk addon!
You have a point! I will look more into this for sure  ^-^

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 Updated
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:41:13 »
Interested for sure!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 Updated
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 Updated
« Reply #129 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 06:24:59 »
We are still taking feedback! So if you got any feedback or if you just want to show interest make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/WnBdnxoVCtGGyPdE6 - Everyone that fills out the form will get notified when GB goes live with an email! Thanks  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 Updated
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 06:54:38 »
Sending my support :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #132 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 17:56:51 »
A small suggestion regarding the NorDeUK kit: you may want to drop all of the sublegends on the keys. :) Currently the kit is quite large, and doing this will help reduce its size, since there are several keys that only differ in their tertiary legends and are otherwise duplicates. For example, the R4 <>, <>|, <>\; R1 2"@, 3#£, 4$€; etc. could all be removed if you decide to drop the sublegends. (The R4 <> can be dropped in either case, since it now exists in the base kit.)

And speaking of which, you can also drop the R4 \| in the base kit; it isn't necessary with the R4 <> around.

The kits look good otherwise, both in terms of size and compatibility.
Hey! Thanks for this, this will help us with finalizing the sets!

Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 18:34:20 »
Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.

Yep, that key does seem to be missing at the moment. Also, the R4 <> in base should be alpha-colored.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 21:43:10 »
Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.

Yep, that key does seem to be missing at the moment. Also, the R4 <> in base should be alpha-colored.
I added new alpha colored <> in base now

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 21:44:12 »
A small suggestion regarding the NorDeUK kit: you may want to drop all of the sublegends on the keys. :) Currently the kit is quite large, and doing this will help reduce its size, since there are several keys that only differ in their tertiary legends and are otherwise duplicates. For example, the R4 <>, <>|, <>\; R1 2"@, 3#£, 4$€; etc. could all be removed if you decide to drop the sublegends. (The R4 <> can be dropped in either case, since it now exists in the base kit.)

And speaking of which, you can also drop the R4 \| in the base kit; it isn't necessary with the R4 <> around.

The kits look good otherwise, both in terms of size and compatibility.
Hey! Thanks for this, this will help us with finalizing the sets!

Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.
Hey! Would this be right? Added a \| for r4 now in the base

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #136 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 00:51:11 »
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R1 Pipe/backslash in mod colour should also be provided. You can safely move that and the R4 angled brackets to the NorDeUK.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 Updated
« Reply #137 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 00:54:31 »
i've been looking for a GMK set like this, great job on it too. can't wait to see it for sale!

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« Reply #138 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:04:52 »
i've been looking for a GMK set like this, great job on it too. can't wait to see it for sale!
Thanks!

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« Reply #139 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:10:44 »
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R1 Pipe/backslash in mod colour should also be provided. You can safely move that and the R4 angled brackets to the NorDeUK.
Base kit updated!
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #140 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 08:12:12 »
A small suggestion regarding the NorDeUK kit: you may want to drop all of the sublegends on the keys. :) Currently the kit is quite large, and doing this will help reduce its size, since there are several keys that only differ in their tertiary legends and are otherwise duplicates. For example, the R4 <>, <>|, <>\; R1 2"@, 3#£, 4$€; etc. could all be removed if you decide to drop the sublegends. (The R4 <> can be dropped in either case, since it now exists in the base kit.)

And speaking of which, you can also drop the R4 \| in the base kit; it isn't necessary with the R4 <> around.

The kits look good otherwise, both in terms of size and compatibility.
Hey! Thanks for this, this will help us with finalizing the sets!

Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.
Hey! Would this be right? Added a \| for r4 now in the base
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Excellent. You're leaving me no room to complain!!! :D :D :D

Okay, almost no room. :D 

Those that follow are small observations, so they're all in the "consider them, but don't feel obligated to comply" category.

- NorDeUk kit: consider adding a numpad comma keycap (as is the standard in the German, Danish, Norwegian and Swedish/Finnish layouts).

- This might be just a rendering issue: The double quote characters in the '" (base kit) and 2" (NorDeUK) keys are adirectional, but in the 2"² and 2"@ in the NorDeUK kit are directional; just make sure they are all adirectional (as already are all the single quotes).

- Consider adding one more R4 1.25u key, whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module or a "Menu" or (better) "Sys", "Meta" or "Super" key in the base kit. Why? Future-proofing!

The HMKB group buy, which just closed, has (among other options) a TKL layouts where the 6.25U space bar is split in the usual manner (2.25+1.25+2.75), which requires eight 1.25U keys in the bottom row instead of the usual seven all keycap sets provide. As far as I know, Maarten's Eon87 PCB is the first one to do so, but if this innovation does become popular, "shortages" will become an issue; in sets with common colors (think U9+L9 or Wob), this will be easily solved, but in sets with custom colors, it might be quite more of a problem.


When does the GB start? My wallet is crying here. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #141 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:42:10 »
Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.
Hey! Would this be right? Added a \| for r4 now in the base
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Sorry, but this is not quite right. The mod-colored R4 <> key should be removed (it's an alpha key). The R4 \| key should be moved from base to the international kit, where all of the other ISO-UK keys are.

In summary, the base kit should contain alpha R3 \| and alpha R4 <> only; the international kit should contain alpha R4 \| and everything else it already does.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #142 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:45:54 »
- Consider adding one more R4 1.25u key, whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module or a "Menu" or (better) "Sys", "Meta" or "Super" key in the base kit. Why? Future-proofing!

The HMKB group buy, which just closed, has (among other options) a TKL layouts where the 6.25U space bar is split in the usual manner (2.25+1.25+2.75), which requires eight 1.25U keys in the bottom row instead of the usual seven all keycap sets provide. As far as I know, Maarten's Eon87 PCB is the first one to do so, but if this innovation does become popular, "shortages" will become an issue; in sets with common colors (think U9+L9 or Wob), this will be easily solved, but in sets with custom colors, it might be quite more of a problem.

I don't think that's the right approach. You cover this by adding a 1.25u space key to the spacebars kit (which the OP should do), not adding more 1.25u keys to the base kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #143 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:54:32 »
Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.
Hey! Would this be right? Added a \| for r4 now in the base
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Sorry, but this is not quite right. The mod-colored R4 <> key should be removed (it's an alpha key). The R4 \| key should be moved from base to the international kit, where all of the other ISO-UK keys are.

In summary, the base kit should contain alpha R3 \| and alpha R4 <> only; the international kit should contain alpha R4 \| and everything else it already does.

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Alright, thanks! Will fix straight away

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #144 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 09:57:31 »
- Consider adding one more R4 1.25u key, whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module or a "Menu" or (better) "Sys", "Meta" or "Super" key in the base kit. Why? Future-proofing!

The HMKB group buy, which just closed, has (among other options) a TKL layouts where the 6.25U space bar is split in the usual manner (2.25+1.25+2.75), which requires eight 1.25U keys in the bottom row instead of the usual seven all keycap sets provide. As far as I know, Maarten's Eon87 PCB is the first one to do so, but if this innovation does become popular, "shortages" will become an issue; in sets with common colors (think U9+L9 or Wob), this will be easily solved, but in sets with custom colors, it might be quite more of a problem.

I don't think that's the right approach. You cover this by adding a 1.25u space key to the spacebars kit (which the OP should do), not adding more 1.25u keys to the base kit.

That's why I said "whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module" first.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #145 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:04:40 »
Actually, not dropped, but moved to the NorDeUK kit — as it stands now, neither kit has the R4 \| key, which IS needed for the English (UK) layout.
Hey! Would this be right? Added a \| for r4 now in the base
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Sorry, but this is not quite right. The mod-colored R4 <> key should be removed (it's an alpha key). The R4 \| key should be moved from base to the international kit, where all of the other ISO-UK keys are.

In summary, the base kit should contain alpha R3 \| and alpha R4 <> only; the international kit should contain alpha R4 \| and everything else it already does.

Edit: Reference image:

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Updated base and inter kit on the post now!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #146 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:08:57 »
Updated base and inter kit on the post now!
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You may want to double-check the NordeUK kit image, it still isn't showing a R4 \| for me.

That's why I said "whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module" first.
All good :thumb: I felt it would be worth emphasizing the spacebars kit part.

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Updated base and inter kit on the post now!
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Now you have R4 <> in both kits.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:10:53 »
Now you have R4 <> in both kits.

Ah, he possibly added a R4 <> instead of R4 \|, that would explain why I'm not seeing a R4 \| in NorDeUK. Should be easy enough to fix, just change the <> to \|.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #149 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:11:26 »
Updated base and inter kit on the post now!
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You may want to double-check the NordeUK kit image, it still isn't showing a R4 \| for me.

I added the <> instead of \|, silly me  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #150 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:18:04 »
Now you have R4 <> in both kits.

Ah, he possibly added a R4 <> instead of R4 \|, that would explain why I'm not seeing a R4 \| in NorDeUK. Should be easy enough to fix, just change the <> to \|.
Yep, now it's updated!  :))

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #151 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:20:22 »
Yep, now it's updated!  :))

Looks good :thumb: Now please also consider depletedvespene's suggestion of adding a convex 1.25u key to the spacebars kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #152 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 10:41:12 »
- Consider adding one more R4 1.25u key, whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module or a "Menu" or (better) "Sys", "Meta" or "Super" key in the base kit. Why? Future-proofing!

The HMKB group buy, which just closed, has (among other options) a TKL layouts where the 6.25U space bar is split in the usual manner (2.25+1.25+2.75), which requires eight 1.25U keys in the bottom row instead of the usual seven all keycap sets provide. As far as I know, Maarten's Eon87 PCB is the first one to do so, but if this innovation does become popular, "shortages" will become an issue; in sets with common colors (think U9+L9 or Wob), this will be easily solved, but in sets with custom colors, it might be quite more of a problem.

I don't think that's the right approach. You cover this by adding a 1.25u space key to the spacebars kit (which the OP should do), not adding more 1.25u keys to the base kit.

That's why I said "whether it's a convex blank in the space bar module" first.
It's now added in the spacebar kit!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 🎯 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:28:13 »
So we've been thinking of changing name and branding again. Zoom didn't work out, and people seem to disagree on Dolch being used for this set. So we are open to change name again. But this time we want input from the community! We've would like to include "Evil" in the name, as we feel like it represents the set well, we will also be adding more "evil" novelties, and do some small updates.

We have come up with a few name suggestions you can choose in between, but you are also allowed to come with new suggestions! All feedback and votes are very much appreciated!

https://forms.gle/H1KUdP3QVgLDcKkK6

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #154 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:34:06 »
I think Evil Dolch works better than any of those alternative names, if I'm being honest. If you really want to change the name, maybe Orc Fortress, or something to that effect, could work? Though I guess that name doesn't fit in with the existing theme/novelties.

On an unrelated note, have you considered offering a red-on-black alphas kit? I think this set would look good in an all RoB configuration.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #155 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:37:43 »
I think Evil Dolch works better than any of those alternative names, if I'm being honest. If you really want to change the name, maybe Orc Fortress, or something to that effect, could work?

On an unrelated note, have you considered offering a red-on-black alphas kit? I think this set would look good in an all RoB configuration.
I tend to like Evil Dolch as well, but in the long run, having dolch as a part of the name for this set might not be the smartest considering a lot of people in the community (including big names) says it's not a dolch set.

But over to RoB, we've been considering it, but feedback wise, there is not enough interest for us to take a grip and design it for now. If this is something more people bring up, this is for sure being considered!

Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #156 on: Tue, 09 June 2020, 21:26:34 »
A lotta big names bicker about icon mods for a page and a half, or a key w a big X on it, and I think there was more discussion about the appropriateness of dolch naming for modern light than there was here. I bet you can shark up an equivalent number of people who have issues with other aspects vs the name.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 05:13:47 »
A lotta big names bicker about icon mods for a page and a half, or a key w a big X on it, and I think there was more discussion about the appropriateness of dolch naming for modern light than there was here. I bet you can shark up an equivalent number of people who have issues with other aspects vs the name.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 09:33:56 »
A lotta big names bicker about icon mods for a page and a half, or a key w a big X on it, and I think there was more discussion about the appropriateness of dolch naming for modern light than there was here. I bet you can shark up an equivalent number of people who have issues with other aspects vs the name.

I think in that case there was much more of an uproar because a) it was the FIRST egregious abuse of the name on record ; b) it was QUITE an egregious abuse of the name ; c) it was from a designer who was expected to know better in the first place.

In this case... a) "Evil Dolch" is nowhere as bad as "Dolch light"; b) there is already precedent... not that it SHOULD be followed.

If the thread starter is willing to renaming the set, I'll applaud him for it (and will try to come up with a good name myself, to add to the pool of suggestions).

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 09:39:48 »
A lotta big names bicker about icon mods for a page and a half, or a key w a big X on it, and I think there was more discussion about the appropriateness of dolch naming for modern light than there was here. I bet you can shark up an equivalent number of people who have issues with other aspects vs the name.

I think in that case there was much more of an uproar because a) it was the FIRST egregious abuse of the name on record ; b) it was QUITE an egregious abuse of the name ; c) it was from a designer who was expected to know better in the first place.

In this case... a) "Evil Dolch" is nowhere as bad as "Dolch light"; b) there is already precedent... not that it SHOULD be followed.

If the thread starter is willing to renaming the set, I'll applaud him for it (and will try to come up with a good name myself, to add to the pool of suggestions).
Personally I don't want to change the name, but I like to listen to the community, and as it looks now, Evil Dolch is still the name people want considering the people who've filled out the form. So no changes will be done atm.

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« Reply #160 on: Wed, 10 June 2020, 23:47:45 »
I know I gave you the suggestion to change the name, and gave you examples like "Hitman" and "Yakuza" to match your theme, but come on now. Having multiple options for a new name AND putting Evil dolch as a name, which is also the top of the list, is a poor way to do it and in bad taste. You keep on pushing the Evil Dolch despite multiple people telling you to do otherwise, and I think this is a bad play. Hopefully me putting this message here, in the public, will further help you make the appropriate name change.
I want to add, of course people will vote for evil dolch as a name, since the rest of the names seem very forced and half assed. You seem to be avoiding names that are far more appropriate for this set in order to stick with Evil Dolch. Please, don't treat the name Dolch like this, even though most of the newbies don't respect it nor value it doesn't mean that the rest of this community does too.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #161 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 00:05:02 »
I know I gave you the suggestion to change the name, and gave you examples like "Hitman" and "Yakuza" to match your theme, but come on now. Having multiple options for a new name AND putting Evil dolch as a name, which is also the top of the list, is a poor way to do it and in bad taste. You keep on pushing the Evil Dolch despite multiple people telling you to do otherwise, and I think this is a bad play. Hopefully me putting this message here, in the public, will further help you make the appropriate name change.
I want to add, of course people will vote for evil dolch as a name, since the rest of the names seem very forced and half assed. You seem to be avoiding names that are far more appropriate for this set in order to stick with Evil Dolch. Please, don't treat the name Dolch like this, even though most of the newbies don't respect it nor value it doesn't mean that the rest of this community does too.

Tbh, this is way dolchier than certain sets that had “Dolch” in their names have been. I don't see anything terribly wrong with the current name. If you do, maybe you oughta take the “Dolch” name altogether a bit less seriously.

That being said, “Hitman” is a very good suggestion. Some of the novelties even match iconography from the Hitman games perfectly. I support that suggestion fully, and I think it's a better match for the set than the current name (even though I have nothing against it).

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 NAME SUGGESTION FORM!
« Reply #162 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 15:48:17 »
Hey everyone! We are currently working on the set and we are switching to stock colors! Updates will come out later today or tomorrow, new renders of the kits and on-board renders! The price will be reduced by like 30% and MOQ lower. So think this is the right move! The set will still have that evil dark look, so don't worry!  :p We are also close to sending in a quote and I'll update you guys on GB date anytime soon!  ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #163 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 13:57:58 »
Big Update

Hey everyone! We've recently done big changes, we decided we wanted to switch over to GMK stock colors, so we've gone through samples and found fitting colors which will still represent the Evil and Dolch theme in our set. We've reworked all the renders, with new background for kit renders, new stock colors, and fixed around with the lightning to make it even more realistic! Last we changed the kanji letter novelty to an evil face novelty which represents the theme better. We also decided to use that for our deskmat design. I hope this is something the community reacts positively to and respect our changes. Other than this, a quote will be sent in during this upcoming week. And prices will be revealed any time soon! Thanks!

Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 14:29:10 »
I love N9s mix n match ability with the half dozen other sets (Nines, terminal, sky dolch, skidata, eclipse, dark, what else am I missing)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #165 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 14:48:47 »
I love N9s mix n match ability with the half dozen other sets (Nines, terminal, sky dolch, skidata, eclipse, dark, what else am I missing)
Yeah, seems to fit very well with other colors!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #166 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 15:44:13 »
is the Nordeuk kit already closed or a Nordeuk++ is still possible?
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Floating on Cherry/GMK caps - White on Black, Classic Beige, Dolch, Olivetti, Alcatel MMK, Hellgrau

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #167 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 15:50:28 »
is the Nordeuk kit already closed or a Nordeuk++ is still possible?
For this run this is the Nordeuk kit we're running, I'm sorry if it doesn't support your needs. If a new round will happen this is something we could look into!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #168 on: Mon, 15 June 2020, 20:40:12 »
Stopping by to say: Nice update!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 16 June 2020, 14:57:08 »
Really nice, the swirly deskmat is also great. Will definitely keep an eye on this.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:23:54 »
Stopping by to say: Nice update!
Thanks disco!  :-*

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #171 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 01:34:05 »
What are the dimensions of the desk mat? Is it made of cloth? Soft or hard? Overall, the keycaps are looking amazing.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #172 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 05:02:12 »
What are the dimensions of the desk mat? Is it made of cloth? Soft or hard? Overall, the keycaps are looking amazing.

Most standard deskmats are 900×400 mm and either 3 or 4 mm thick. They're made out of soft cloth with a non-slip rubber backing and stitched edges. Here are some specs from Kono's website (assuming they will be the deskmat supplier for this GB):


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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #173 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 20:29:09 »
What are the dimensions of the desk mat? Is it made of cloth? Soft or hard? Overall, the keycaps are looking amazing.

Most standard deskmats are 900×400 mm and either 3 or 4 mm thick. They're made out of soft cloth with a non-slip rubber backing and stitched edges. Here are some specs from Kono's website (assuming they will be the deskmat supplier for this GB):

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Sorry for the late answer, but thanks! This is the right info about the deskmats, kono will be the supplier for the deskmats!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #174 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 21:43:26 »
Looks really good! I wonder how it might look with slightly darker alpha legends. either way, definitely interested.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #175 on: Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:16:43 »
Looks really good! I wonder how it might look with slightly darker alpha legends. either way, definitely interested.

I agree, either a light grey for the legend or the same red on the legends of the modifiers.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #176 on: Fri, 19 June 2020, 00:28:16 »
Holy **** those desk mats are nice-

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #177 on: Fri, 19 June 2020, 00:54:52 »
I love this keycap set !

Maybe one day the same but in blue :crossfingers:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #178 on: Fri, 19 June 2020, 05:55:41 »
I love this keycap set !

Maybe one day the same but in blue :crossfingers:
Hey! Glad you liked it! A blue version could be really cool for the feature! But would be similar to GMK Sky Dolch

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #179 on: Sat, 20 June 2020, 12:01:32 »
Holy **** those desk mats are nice-
Glad you like them  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #180 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 02:15:17 »
Ahhhhhh I already told myself I'm done with keycaps for the year...but okay I'm in.  :'(

ILUMKB as a SEA proxy please?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #181 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 07:53:07 »
Ahhhhhh I already told myself I'm done with keycaps for the year...but okay I'm in.  :'(

ILUMKB as a SEA proxy please?
Hey! Glad you like it  :) We are currently in talk with Asian vendors, will update whenever it's been settled!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #182 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 15:47:59 »
Noice, this just got a level up with the updated stock colors :thumb:
Oof N9 with Norde and WS1 + RO1 On CR mods, superkul :cool:


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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #183 on: Sun, 21 June 2020, 15:54:43 »
Noice, this just got a level up with the updated stock colors :thumb:
Oof N9 with Norde and WS1 + RO1 On CR mods, superkul :cool:
very glad you like it!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 STOCK COLORS UPDATE!
« Reply #184 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 14:07:25 »
Quote has arrived!Will update with pricing and GB date very soon!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 All vendors revealed!
« Reply #185 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 05:58:17 »
All vendors are ready to take on this project! I'm happy to announce KBDfans as our Asian vendor, and Mekanisk as our Norwegian vendor! Prices and GB date are right around the corner! Stay tuned :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #186 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 13:43:37 »
Hello everyone! We've not set a GB date and prices are set!

GB goes live July 22nd

Here are the following vendors and prices:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #187 on: Mon, 29 June 2020, 08:05:21 »
Hello everyone! We've not set a GB date and prices are set!

GB goes live July 22nd

Here are the following vendors and prices:
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I can't wait! ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 04:39:41 »
Really nice!! All the best for GB!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #189 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 16:13:51 »
Really nice!! All the best for GB!
Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #190 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 08:18:34 »
This uses N9 for the alphas right? Can I ask what the mods use?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #191 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 08:33:48 »
N9 for alphas and CR for mods!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #192 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 22:48:01 »
is there a way I can buy just the modifiers kit?

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« Reply #193 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 00:31:38 »
Love the colors but that white text stands out like hell. Will there be a version with full RO1 colored text instead of the partial WS1 and RO1?

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« Reply #194 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 03:36:05 »
N9 for alphas and CR for mods!

Perfect. Was planning on mixing the GMK ThinkCaps novelties with it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #195 on: Sun, 05 July 2020, 02:24:30 »
Lovely set, hopefully I can support a fellow Scandinavian when the set goes live !

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 11:03:14 »
Lovely set, hopefully I can support a fellow Scandinavian when the set goes live !

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #197 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:19:51 »
Got an old das keyboard ultimate 4 full of shine ... this set is gonna look dope on it

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch 😈 GB: July 22nd - PRICES REVEALED
« Reply #198 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:37:16 »
Can't wait for this Group Buy to start in a couple weeks.