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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:58:07 »
Small thing I wanted to day is that white legends on the burgundy keys would be much brighter and pop off. What do you think?
Anyways awesome set :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:11:02 »
Okay, coming in for another pass...  ;)

Core module:
- R1 \| there is a mod-colored version, but not an alpha-colored version (I would say the latter is more important than the former).
- Consider having mod-colored F1..F4 and F9..F12 keys (in addition to the alpha-colored ones; perhaps in a child kit?).

Nordeuk module:
- The AltGr keys are missing.
- The kit has too many alphas missing... but there are too many present if you go through the dreadful "ne tertiaries!" route. Notably, 2" is missing, although 2"² is present. Check out http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/#NORDEUKPPP for a full reference for your module.

Liquify deskmat design: lovely. I'll definitely be getting one.
Hey, thanks for feedback! We are working on updating the module!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:13:23 »
Small thing I wanted to day is that white legends on the burgundy keys would be much brighter and pop off. What do you think?
Anyways awesome set :)
Thanks for feedback, that's could for sure be experimented with!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:52:03 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #54 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:55:01 »
Great choice on the rename. Good branding. Actually makes me want it more. Goes to show that we are all mindless automatons bending to the irresistible will of marketing 😳🧟‍♂️

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:16:43 »
Great choice on the rename. Good branding. Actually makes me want it more. Goes to show that we are all mindless automatons bending to the irresistible will of marketing 😳🧟‍♂️
Thanks! Glad you liked it  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:31:56 »
Hey!

Always nice to see a fat nordeuk kit! And lucky me i am also diggin the set  :cool:

A few remarks, I could see on your update your are going full on ++ style.

I am just afraid making the kit so big with custom colors, it will bump up the price to much. Better if you cut off the support for FO and the half ISL and PT. ( if not to many oppositions ofc)
But this will make the kit hopefully alot cheaper and have a better chance of being picked up  :thumb:


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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:27:50 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

Now it's too big! What do you Scandinavians want with Portugal, anyway?! ;D

(also, <> in the NordeUk kit can be taken off, since it's already in the base kit)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 10:41:02 »
that deskmat is so niceeeee

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 11:42:42 »
that deskmat is so niceeeee
Thanks! Glad you like it  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 13:42:48 »
Hey!

Always nice to see a fat nordeuk kit! And lucky me i am also diggin the set  :cool:

A few remarks, I could see on your update your are going full on ++ style.

I am just afraid making the kit so big with custom colors, it will bump up the price to much. Better if you cut off the support for FO and the half ISL and PT. ( if not to many oppositions ofc)
But this will make the kit hopefully alot cheaper and have a better chance of being picked up  :thumb:
Hey, thanks for the feedback! Whenever I find vendors and get the price for core module and the other modules I will go through a process of making the set affordable, or "normal GMK price".

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 16:57:11 »
NorDeUK Layout updated!

Now it's too big! What do you Scandinavians want with Portugal, anyway?! ;D

(also, <> in the NordeUk kit can be taken off, since it's already in the base kit)
Hey, thanks for the heads up! Will fix that  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:47:09 »
Looks good
« Last Edit: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:49:40 by ogWalker »

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 18:57:50 »
the red goes surprisingly well with the dolch key colors

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:06:31 »
Looks good
Thanks! Glad you like it  :-* Make sure to fill the form if you are interested!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 30 May 2020, 20:06:42 »
the red goes surprisingly well with the dolch key colors
Thanks! Glad you like it  :-* Make sure to fill the form if you are interested!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:47:24 »
Thanks for all the feeback! Make sure to fill out the form as well! https://forms.gle/dCyfGL4aqWNUo9ZcA

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:49:58 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 05:55:07 »
/in for a Base and Nordeuk+ kit!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 05:59:50 »
/in for a Base and Nordeuk+ kit!  :thumb:
Thanks! Nice to hear! Make sure to fill out the form  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:04:13 »
Hey guys! Thanks for all the feedback, make sure to fill out the form https://forms.gle/KP3CHa3gBe3JcjUr8 That helps a lot! We also added some more renders of how the TKL Ability is on the Iron180!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:08:25 »
I loved to see the Nordeuk++ PT caps, since I'm Portuguese  :thumb: However I don't know how the alphas are going to be and I'm afraid the RAL7047 lettering color can be too dark, why not using white color for lettering?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:45:44 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:22:47 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:27:01 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:29:19 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:31:02 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

Just determine which national layouts will be included in the kit and then we'll check the resulting kit for correctness. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:50:18 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
I'm not sure yet. We are working on trying to finalize the different kits. So a bit unclear now!

Just determine which national layouts will be included in the kit and then we'll check the resulting kit for correctness. :)
Yes! Thanks :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:13:23 »
Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?
(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

that's wrong, the proper PT cap it's the , which was already included in the NORDEUK++ and this kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:29:00 »
Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?
(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)

that's wrong, the proper PT cap it's the , which was already included in the NORDEUK++ and this kit.

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That's wrong × wrong (i.e.: right), as the Portuguese (Portugal) national layout specifies a pipe character (U+007C) and not a broken bar (U+00A6) on the E00 key; the broken bar might have started out as a visual distinction but has evolved into a separate character and must not be confused with the proper vertical bar ("pipe").

This set uses | as the graphical representation of the vertical bar everywhere in the base kit and the intended NordDeUK kit; the only other instance of the ¦ glyph is seen in the `¬¦ keycap, where it DOES represent the broken bar. Therefore, the R1 backslash-pipe should be \| and not .

See http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/#ptPT and http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/A-Visual-Comparison-of-Different-National-Layouts/KBD163.pdf for further reference.


(Sorry about the pedantry, but technical correctness is technical correctness and consistency is... consistency)

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:37:34 »
again, you are wrong! I have dozens of portuguese keyboards and should be. please refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_keyboard_layout

here's also some of my examples from Cherry and other boards:









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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:07:13 »
I'm also interested if you keep the NordeUK++ with the PT caps
Thanks! I will try to keep the NorDeUK kit for sure!

Ok, but is it going to be NorDeUKPo or NorDeUKIsPo?

(if you DO keep Portugal support on, then you need to replace the R1 key with the proper \| keycap)
Like I give a **** if the bar is broken or not. Seriously?!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (More Renders)
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:23:54 »
again, you are wrong!

You must be new here...

I have dozens of portuguese keyboards and should be. please refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_keyboard_layout

In ALL those keyboards, the ¦ glyph is being used as a visual stand-in for the vertical bar, which is how the broken bar came to be in the first place.

And now let's see a Portuguese keyboard that doesn't do that:


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Remember: when pressing the Shift-E00 key, the (software-defined) Portuguese national layout produces a U+007C character, not a U+00A6, despite whatever might be printed in the keycap itself.


In this set in particular, the renders show the | glyph being used in all of the keycaps where a vertical bar is present, with this one exception, and one more keycap where the ¦ glyph is used to represent the broken bar. This is different from, say, GMK Jamón or GMK Lux, where the ¦ is used to represent the vertical bar (as was its primitive origin).

Ultimately, for the set's internal consistency, the R1 \| keycap should use a proper vertical bar instead of a broken bar...

... but come to think of it, why is R1 \| present in the NordeUK(Po) kit in the first place? The base kit ought to include an (alpha-colored) R1 \| key anyway, making this one redundant! It would seem we're both fighting the wrong fight here...  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 11:30:14 »
kono.store will be the US vendor for this set! Looking forward to being working with them! GB Date will come soon, will hopefully be within this summer! I hope people are looking forward to this! Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/6LRW7qjJtPspckqX8 to show your interest!  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 12:38:01 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Renamed from Zoom)
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:08:08 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 18:52:10 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
:thumb:
Gotcha, so has no purpose and definitely doesn’t fit the theme in any way.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:41:39 »
what is the purpose of the random kanji? it doesn't seem to fit the theme in any way whatsoever
The kanji letter means «Real», I put this as a novelty since I think the symbol is nicelooking, and being real is always important

I would sooner translate it as "truth" than "real"...
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Gotcha, so has no purpose and definitely doesn’t fit the theme in any way.
You are right, might not fit the theme properly. But I figured it was a nice looking touch. If I see more people comment on this being changed, I will do so. Thanks for the feedback buddy!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 21:21:47 »
With dolch R5 and modern dolch R2 around this corner. This is a little too much dolch. But I dig it. Just not enough to justify buying it after I get all the modo R2 kits

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch | US Vendor Revealed
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 06:06:23 »
With dolch R5 and modern dolch R2 around this corner. This is a little too much dolch. But I dig it. Just not enough to justify buying it after I get all the modo R2 kits
I can see that, need to find a fitting time where no other dolch sets run! Thanks

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:53:53 »
dailyclack.com will be the OCE vendor for this set! Looking forward to being working with them! I hope people are looking forward to this! Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/6LRW7qjJtPspckqX8 to show your interest!

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:27:45 »
Really nice looking.
I will def. buy it.
Any chance to get some French AZERTY ISO keys ?

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:29:42 »
Really nice looking.
I will def. buy it.
Any chance to get some French AZERTY ISO keys ?
Hey! Glad you like it! Please suggest that in the form as well  :p If this is something more people want, we will for sure consider it! Form: https://forms.gle/8wcV95DN4s5Gct9v9

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:16:20 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
Any answer?
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:28:33 »
Since pipe/backslash and tilde/quote are there, can we also get an angled brackets key with modifier colours?

Any chance for a R0/R5 kit?
Any answer?
Hey! That could for sure be added, we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys. We want to make this affordable too, so we can't have too many keys in base kit, hope you understand! But please make sure to fill out the form with this feedback if you haven't  :p Form: https://forms.gle/kH5SbCoouve8pnVEA

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 11:41:37 »
we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys.
I'll look forward to those. Thank you.
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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 14:49:34 »
we are going to start finalizing the different kits, so we will run through all the feedback and finalize all the kits. We will probably cut out copies from other kits, and try to add the needed keys.
I'll look forward to those. Thank you.
No worries  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 22:01:06 »
Why not just run this as a modifiers add-on kit? No need to run the alphas.
The modifiers are beautiful on their own.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 02:18:47 »
Why not just run this as a modifiers add-on kit? No need to run the alphas.
The modifiers are beautiful on their own.
Hey, thanks! That could be an option, if you check out the form, there is an option of running extra kits.

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Re: [IC] GMK Evil Dolch (Added Vendors)
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 06:28:52 »
We've gon through all the feedback here in the comments and in the form. We will be finalizing the kits, adding keys, and removing keys for the community's liking. We've also gotten a lot of feedback considering the legends, some say the alpha legends are too bright, and mod legends are too dark. So we will experiment with this and try to make it less contrast, but still, look nice!

For this first run, we want a base kit, and for eventually future runs we could run alpha kits with different colored alphas/legends (Like maroon-colored legends like people wanted) and mod kits! I hope this is understandable for people, and I hope this doesn't lose your interest.

Other than this, we are working with finalizing the kits, and we are also on the scout for an Asian vendor. Groupbuy date is still a bit unknown, but we hope to go live this summer! More info and updates will come soon. Make sure to fill out the form: https://forms.gle/HG3Yx5WFmwcyySpx8 to show your interest and get notified when GB goes live!

Thanks ;D