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Offline kwlodarczyk

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[IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - FINAL PROTOTYPES
« on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 12:24:35 »
17 October Update - Fnal Prototypes are Here!
I didnít think Iíll be making a ROTR post this quick, but I am ecstatic to announce that the final prototype has gotten to us and it is perfect! This time we worked very closely with the manufacturer to get the finish we were after and it has really paid off.
The prototypes will be sent to me from Japan on Monday and I will assemble them with the PCBs and do a final inspection. Be sure to keep an eye out for a GB announcement in the near future!




05 September Update:
Hey everyone! Sorry for the lack of updates lately, my package with the prototype parts got held up at customs. Now that I have my hands of them I am very pleased to say that everything works and it looks great! The PCB took a bit of fiddling with to get working but after a few bodge wires, it fired into life.


Unfortunately, under the closer inspection of the CNC parts, we found many defects and problems that just couldn't be overlooked. The majority of these were cosmetic problems with the parts, things like deep tool marks on the knobs and cases or less than brilliant tolerances. In short, we no longer feel that the CNC company that made the prototypes can be trusted with large scale production and we are looking at another company. This will set the schedule back a bit but should ensure that the products that get to you guys are of high quality. We are also taking this time to try a new way of mounting the knobs that will let them be interchangeable, here's a video of a 3d printed prototype spinning!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SAGFUmZ65JX3VOrx6Qc7cpZHrHblcji6/view?usp=sharing

We know that not all of you want the knob to spin quite as much so we are also working on a way that will let you tune how much resistance there is on the knob. We'll keep you updated on this but I can promise you that it's very cool!

There are also a few other projects that we have been working on during all of this waiting around, keep an eye out for them in the next few weeks!

I am also very excited to announce that the vendor for the ROTR will be Mechboards!

And finally, we want to thank you all for the huge amount of interest and support you have shown for this project. I would have never been possible if not for you guys!


21 July Update:
The anodizing is now done, it's looking pretty good! There was a slight mix up and the CNC company accidentally made the knobs in copper instead of brass. What do you guys think of the sandblasted copper knob?




16 July Update:

The CNC company is done machining our initial prototypes, they just need to be anodized before they're ready!
Check out our Discord for more updates like these!

Here's a look at the prototype PCB too!




Concepts
Here are some renders of the ROTR with the KAT Iron and GMK Copper keycaps. A huge thank you to @fatboycarney for all of the help!
Be sure to check out the KAT Iron IC - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105689.0
As well as The Carnival Discord, he designed the beautiful keycaps you see here and more! - https://discord.gg/sb6jsyQ

GMK Copper



KAT Iron



If you like how these look it would be really useful if you could tell us here - https://forms.gle/e7nyy8VqFjZz9W8V7


ORIGINAL POST

Hey everyone!

Thank you for the huge amount of interest and feedback after the last post. We are turning this idea into reality!




Design Inspiration
The design takes inspiration from 20th century industrial design, with heavy references to the work of designer Dieter Rams and products like the Leica IIIg Chrome.
The ROTR sports gentle curves that cup your fingers when using the knob, while the rest of the case has quiet, rounded corners meant to pair well with most aluminium keyboards.







PCB


Features:

INTERCHANGEABLE KNOBS!
USB C
CNC milled aluminium case
Solid brass / aluminium knob
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder
Rubber feet

Extra features (based on the amazing feedback from you guys since the last post):

QMK support, will ship pre-programmed and ready to use!
Hot swap switch sockets
RGB LEDs for switches
New black and brass colour scheme

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rotr

Pricing

The pricing will be announced when we receive the new case and knob prototypes from the CNC company.
As there were many requests for this, I am happy to say that there will be international shipping!

Moving forward
Case prototypes have been ordered, and will be delivered in roughly 3 weeks.
The PCB prototype has been ordered and will be delivered in roughly 2 weeks.
Fully working prototype assembled in hopefully 4 weeks.
If the finish of the machined parts is high enough quality then GB will start.

Update Summary

23/06/2020 Initial IC post
01/07/2020 More renders added, features confirmed
16/07/2020 Case and knob ready to be anodized, PCB prototype pictures
21/07/2020 Case and knob have been anodised, suprise copper knob
05/09/2020 Prototypes received, fully working prototype, new prototypes to be ordered, vendor announced

Feedback

Weíd love to hear your guy's thoughts and comments on this project so far, any suggestions would be super helpful!

The IC form has been updated to give you guys a better look at the knob options, as well as some other info we think would help in planning our upcoming Group Buy.

https://forms.gle/UgeRqf52kf83DHKj6



Join our Discord server for the latest updates!

https://discord.gg/nuknf9K


Check out our Instagram here!
https://www.instagram.com/polarityworks/



« Last Edit: Sat, 17 October 2020, 11:19:54 by kwlodarczyk »

Offline sayantanroy47

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 12:38:00 »
Looks really nice. If the price is decent, I am all in!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:04:01 »
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:20:14 »
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?

It's infinite turn

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:37:02 »
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?

It's infinite turn
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:48:48 »
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?

It's infinite turn
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.

The idea behind the notch is as a place for your finger to grab when you're turning it. One of the knobs we're considering has no notch, if people prefer that, then that's what we'll go with.

Offline lamonayon

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 14:00:56 »
Lots of potential, depending on the app-support (if any) and price! Good idea!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 15:27:20 »
love this

Offline ArtVandelay

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 15:55:47 »
I really love this. I filled out the feedback form and noted that a polished black case with the matte brass knob would be a really slick option! But I understand options are limited. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:00:07 »
I really love this. I filled out the feedback form and noted that a polished black case with the matte brass knob would be a really slick option! But I understand options are limited. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

Thank you! A lot of people have been asking for the black and brass colour scheme, there seems to be enough interest for another run in the future!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:08:03 »
Very cool.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:22:37 »
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?

It's infinite turn
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.

I agree with this but looks great either way

Offline kimchijody

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:44:14 »
Been looking for a pad like this so very interested. Filled out the form. I would love another row of keys for a total of 6. Also I assume the USB would be on the knob-side of the case? Additionally, I have to assume that this uses a custom PCB?

This would also probably need a custom PCB with QMK/VIA support. Do you have a proto in the works for that as well or is that still in the works?
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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:48:50 »
Reminds me a lot of the CU7, but somehow I like this better, I think what's buying me is the knob, love the design of the knob. For me to buy it I would like more renders, how it's looking behind, inputs ect. Also the price is important!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 17:15:24 »
Instant buy!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 23 June 2020, 23:33:44 »
Interested, love to see how this develop

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:12:54 »
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs  ;D

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:36:01 »
This is pretty dope. Loving the design of the rendered knob (bottom left in the form). Hope to see this progress

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:37:55 »
I do really need this 1knob+3keys macro pad for sure.
More than 3keys is too much for me.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:41:25 »
Been looking for a pad like this so very interested. Filled out the form. I would love another row of keys for a total of 6. Also I assume the USB would be on the knob-side of the case? Additionally, I have to assume that this uses a custom PCB?

This would also probably need a custom PCB with QMK/VIA support. Do you have a proto in the works for that as well or is that still in the works?

Yes, there's a USB C port on the knob side of the case. I'm designing the pcb at the moment and it'll have QMK support, I'll make an update when I make more progress on it!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:43:53 »
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs  ;D

I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:47:05 »
oh my god, she is beautiful! 

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:49:03 »
Looks great! :D

Are you planning on making it wireless?

Offline bananasplit_00

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:53:44 »
Where would i place this? no idea. What do i need it for? no idea.

Gimme(unless its very expensive)

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 05:32:18 »
Looks great! :D

Are you planning on making it wireless?

I'd love to in future runs!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 05:52:45 »
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs  ;D

I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!

Extra encoder available?
I would like to have one or two extra encoders.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 06:21:46 »
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs  ;D

I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!

Extra encoder available?
I would like to have one or two extra encoders.

I'd love to send you some but the encoder is an integral part of the knob. Unfortunately you'd have to machine an enclosure for it

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 07:47:28 »
I hope the knob is as smooth turning as I imagine :cool:

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:35:22 »
Add an extra row to make it 6 keys please. And I'll be definitely in!  ;D
Flex is love, flex is life.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:41:44 »
Add an extra row to make it 6 keys please. And I'll be definitely in!  ;D

If you leave your email on the feedback form I'll let you know if we do it!

Offline nebluh

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:39:38 »
A silver case black knob version would be perfect :o

Offline cypis666

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 16:43:39 »
Love it. I'm in if price is decent.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 24 June 2020, 22:26:18 »
A light blue version with a black knob would be awesome

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Offline riterdando

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 01:50:31 »
Really like the design with the big knob!
I would like to have 6 keys, like someone else mentioned above.

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 04:36:31 »
I'd like to also suggest both anodized parts for the case and the knob. I much prefer a sandblasted look everything. So no polished aluminum or brass.

For the knob, aluminum or steel would be best.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 05:27:30 »
subscribed.

Offline TacoTypes

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 15:44:50 »
Looks really nice. If the price is decent, I am all in!
^^^

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 20:48:59 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 25 June 2020, 23:44:02 »
PLEASE MAKE THIS !!! For the love of god PLEASE - This look  wicked!!!.

Some advise  - If this is CNC out of a solid piece of aluminium i will definitely buy this.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 03:59:52 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

The knob! I have designed my own magnetic rotary encoder so that it doesn't have detents and feels frictionless to turn. Like the scroll wheel on a Logitech MX Master mouse.
As for the functionality. It also has qmk, hot-swap sockets and USB C, just the one though. RGB is also a possibility.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 04:02:33 »
PLEASE MAKE THIS !!! For the love of god PLEASE - This look  wicked!!!.

Some advise  - If this is CNC out of a solid piece of aluminium i will definitely buy this.

Thank you! Yes, the case is CNCed from a solid piece of aluminium. Solid brass knob too!

Offline sayantanroy47

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 05:56:00 »
I can see you are from the UK but are you also considering selling this from the EU. Asking because of taxes!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 06:33:24 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe)  ;D
Flex is love, flex is life.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 06:35:30 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe)  ;D
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lol

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Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:35:22 »
I can see you are from the UK but are you also considering selling this from the EU. Asking because of taxes!

Sorry, not for this run. Potentially in the future though!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:37:32 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe)  ;D
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lol

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Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:38:21 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe)  ;D
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lol

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Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!
Is there a rough ETA on that or is it up in the air due to covid?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 08:02:48 »
Do you have an estimated price point for this?

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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 08:34:00 »
Since this render looks like it's made from a solid block of aluminum, and that'll probably be really expensive, would it be possible that there's a cheaper version made from cheaper materials such as Acrylic?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:05:50 »
I agree with some of the above comments regarding 6 instead of 3 keys.  I would also love to see it wireless if possible.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 26 June 2020, 15:11:53 »
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?

- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe)  ;D
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lol

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Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!
Is there a rough ETA on that or is it up in the air due to covid?

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I honestly can't give you a useful ETA until I get a prototype from the CNC company. If they can make it a high enough quality then the group buy might be starting in the next month or two otherwise it might be another month or two on top of that. It could even be sooner, I just don't know at the minute.
There'll be an update fairly soon, I've been making great progress with the PCB!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:09:46 »
Hello I love knobs and would like to thank you for your contribution, you are a hero my friend

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:10:08 »
very nise

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:10:33 »
cute design and beautiful knob!  :p

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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:10:44 »
Gib me knob plz

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:11:05 »
Thank you for the THICC and BEEFY knob, im so in for this.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 10:11:43 »
Knobs are coolio  :) :) :) specially this one :O

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 17:47:15 »
Beauty!

Please make sure there's no gap between keycaps and case on the final product, or it would look really bad :(

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Re: [IC] ROTR Volume Knob
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 28 June 2020, 22:31:31 »
i'm super interested if there's a white version at some point, and if the price is doable (am in canada and need to convert)

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - New Renders and Features Added
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:37:18 »
Super interested if the the price is right and is QMK compatible

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - New Renders and Features Added
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:50:44 »
Posted this on Reddit already, but to ensure visibility, here it is again:

As for suggestions, it would be awesome to have a knob option with some texture on the sides of the knob rather than only on the top. Also, offering additional knobs to purchase separately in the GB would be stellar!

Ideas for additional knob/texture designs:

Knurled Knob: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc

OR

Gripped Knob:
https://industrialcomponentsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/products/195/195.jpg

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - New Renders and Features Added
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 15:03:13 »
Posted this on Reddit already, but to ensure visibility, here it is again:

As for suggestions, it would be awesome to have a knob option with some texture on the sides of the knob rather than only on the top. Also, offering additional knobs to purchase separately in the GB would be stellar!

Ideas for additional knob/texture designs:

Knurled Knob: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc

OR

Gripped Knob:
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Thank you for the feedback! I've made a note of it and I'll try some renders to see how it looks!

Offline Neryus

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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 16:50:56 »
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #64 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:46:07 »
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.

This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!

Offline syke

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« Reply #65 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:09:17 »
6 key version would be great

Offline Nim

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:44:41 »
This looks neat. Definitely keeping an eye on this

Offline Diggidy

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 19:58:57 »
Really dig the new renders. I think I'd be in for a black one with either smooth or a notched wheel. If you end up doing an e-white option though I'd be in for that even more.

Offline MightyFineShindig

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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 20:39:39 »
Watching this space. A slight angle on the case would be great imo.
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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 01 July 2020, 21:20:44 »
Regarding the PCB, would it be possible for you to make the switches south-facing?

Offline Xerra

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 00:58:40 »
This looks good! Would also prefer 6-key over 3. Hopefully the encoder will work great! If the price is right, I might very well be hopping on!

Offline Yeoh

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« Reply #71 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 01:08:02 »
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.

This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!
+1 for 6 key version!

Offline Solotov

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 01:38:26 »
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.

This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!

How about making it as the first version?  ;D
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Offline Hesi

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« Reply #73 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 04:26:41 »
I'm pretty down for this. But as others have mentioned, I'd be even more down for a 6 key!

Offline Kasuka3497

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:57:24 »
If this is nicely priced, I am definitely going for this.

I would like a gray variant as well, though probably will pick the black as well. Just think a grey and brass scheme like the Atlas 5x12 would make this look awesome (and I get to match them, more reason to not miss this!)

Please try a 6 key version? That would transform this into an ultimate macropad that I, for one, can't afford to miss. I always wanted one with 2 rotary knobs and 6 keys but this one makes up for it even now.... So 6 keys would make it the endgame Macropad for me.

And maybe a slight angle? 2į?


EDIT: Keep that notched knob... <3
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Offline TheYeti

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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:52:03 »
Ditto others re 6 keys! 3 keys good, 6 keys twice as good.

I think I'd prefer no indicator on the knob - it kind of loses it's meaning if there are no upper and lower bounds to the rotation.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 19:09:33 »
6 KEY PLS

Offline Kasuka3497

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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 02 July 2020, 23:09:09 »
Wait, so this GB will be sometime August or September?? :eek:

Offline harlekein

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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 02:59:54 »
There are already macro pads with knobs and more keys in the works. CU7 with 6 and Soap with 7.

Please keep this at 3. I wouldn't know what to do with 3 more keys and this makes me prefer it.

Offline danieljgrouse

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 03:34:30 »
I agree that I prefer a 3 key version. I would absolutely find some use for more keys but I'd much rather have a smaller footprint.

Offline Kasuka3497

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 05:58:32 »
I don't really mind 3 keys either... Though I want 6 keys... But still.
The Grey color and slight angle are a bit more important to me.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 22:09:42 »
3 keys, 6 keys... I'm in either way. This thing looks dope, I got a split keyboard on the way, this thing can fit right in the middle just perfect.  :thumb:

Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.

I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.
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Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 05:11:20 »
3 keys, 6 keys... I'm in either way. This thing looks dope, I got a split keyboard on the way, this thing can fit right in the middle just perfect.  :thumb:

Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.

I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.

That's a really cool idea! I'm not sure if it would work in this form factor as the potentiometers tend to be fairly large. It could be an option for a future project though!

Offline marshskitow

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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 05:46:50 »
Hello I love knobs and would like to thank you for your contribution, you are a hero my friend
What a surprise ! You love knobs ? Didnít know that


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Offline Diggidy

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« Reply #84 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 06:19:32 »
Have you thought about having 2 USB ports and allowing for pass-through?

Offline Blvck.-

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« Reply #85 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 08:20:06 »
Def Interested.

Offline WHAT!?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - UPDATED Renders and Features Added
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 09:33:26 »
3 keys, 6 keys... I'm in either way. This thing looks dope, I got a split keyboard on the way, this thing can fit right in the middle just perfect.  :thumb:

Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.

I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.

That's a really cool idea! I'm not sure if it would work in this form factor as the potentiometers tend to be fairly large. It could be an option for a future project though!

Yes you are right, I wasn't thinking about the issue of how thick that component actually is. Still enthusiastic about what is on offer here though, and if you do decide to work out a project in the future that does fit in a stepped potentiometer I'd definitely be all in there as well!

Offline Kasuka3497

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« Reply #87 on: Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:22:58 »
It may be too early to ask, but any idea if the GB will have limited FCFS spots or just a time period?

Offline puq

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« Reply #88 on: Sun, 05 July 2020, 12:51:18 »
All in for this. Might even cop 2 to give one to a friend as a gift:)

Offline davydav

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« Reply #89 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 08:02:44 »
Quote
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder

Does this mean that there is no resistance at all when turning the knob ?

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:10:52 »
Quote
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder

Does this mean that there is no resistance at all when turning the knob ?

Yes! It'll be like the scroll wheel on the Logitech MX Master

Offline danieljgrouse

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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:15:49 »
That makes me very happy because I actually intend to use it as a stand-alone scroll wheel. I miss the Kensington Expert Mouse scroll ring on other trackballs and this seems like a great solution. Will it be heavy and smooth enough to have some momentum? (To let it spin freely if you nudge it hard enough.)

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 07 July 2020, 13:19:50 »
That makes me very happy because I actually intend to use it as a stand-alone scroll wheel. I miss the Kensington Expert Mouse scroll ring on other trackballs and this seems like a great solution. Will it be heavy and smooth enough to have some momentum? (To let it spin freely if you nudge it hard enough.)

It should be, I've been playing around with the bearings I plan on using and they spin for about 1s. With the knob, there'll be a lot more momentum so it should spin for much longer!
I'll be posting a video of it spinning when I get the prototypes

Offline skyyyy

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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 19:59:55 »
this is a beauty

Offline mateuszwlo

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 16:37:55 »
Looks great!

Offline mustardgreens

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« Reply #95 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 20:11:41 »
Looking forward to seeing a completed prototype with switches and caps. This is very exciting

Offline JinJuu

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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:02:19 »
This looks really nice, can't wait to see it anodized.

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 14:37:48 »
I'm definitely intrigued. I'd love to see how well the knob spins freely when the proto is put together.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #98 on: Fri, 17 July 2020, 15:56:16 »
I'm definitely intrigued. I'd love to see how well the knob spins freely when the proto is put together.

It should spin really well, there aren't any parts that are in contact with each other. The only friction will come from the bearings
Here's a link to a test of the encoder chip - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pPAv9PewBg512wwro1o7rLLC9ZoXgD3a/view?usp=sharing
There's a magnet at the end of the pencil but it's not actually in contact with the chip, there's a 1.5mm gap

Offline perry4761

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« Reply #99 on: Sat, 18 July 2020, 17:04:01 »
instant cop for me
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« Reply #100 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:15:40 »
Looking forward to it!  :3

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« Reply #101 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:19:36 »
that's a thicc knob. I'm in.

Offline marshskitow

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« Reply #102 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 15:44:23 »
Do we have any news about the pricing ? It would be lovely to know if i have to call my bank or if i can afford it


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Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #103 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:15:51 »
Do we have any news about the pricing ? It would be lovely to know if i have to call my bank or if i can afford it


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There'll be news on pricing fairly soon. I'm just waiting on the prototypes to get to me from the CNC place

Offline sayantanroy47

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« Reply #104 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:19:50 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #105 on: Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:30:14 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks

Offline evorus5

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« Reply #106 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:00:20 »
How rough is it ?


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« Reply #107 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:23:08 »
This looks great, definitely interested in this project!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #108 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 06:51:43 »
This looks great, definitely interested in this project!

Thank you! I can't wait to get my hands on the prototypes!

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« Reply #109 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:53:25 »
The Copper looks amazing, cant wait to see it when you get it and follow this along to GB!!  :thumb:

Offline puq

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« Reply #110 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:34:46 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

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« Reply #111 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:52:50 »
Is the price been estimated yet?

I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks

Can I get a very rough estimate? It doesnot have to be accurate, just a ballpack value is okay.

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« Reply #112 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:41:59 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #113 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 06:59:38 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

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« Reply #114 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:05:40 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:56:10 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?

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« Reply #116 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:40:22 »
personally not crazy about pvd coating, something about it looks off to me, maybe a little too shiny? would personally prefer anodized aluminum (matching or contrasting color to accent), or sandblasted and clear coated brass.

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« Reply #117 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:24:17 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 20:22:23 »
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.

The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.

Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.

I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.

We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?

Silver anodizing would be a nice choice

Offline syke

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« Reply #119 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:24:53 »
Cooper is cool.. It is heftier than Brass. I am worried about it having a patina over time though... Although it can be easily restored to original.

The Cooper hammered finish is awesome... Keep it simple like this without all that knurling and grooves.
« Last Edit: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:30:22 by syke »

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:56:54 »
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.

My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.

The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.

Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?

I'm still not sure about the copper knob with the patina, once we get the prototypes I'll be able to tell you if it will increase the cost significantly. As for the pvd coating, I hope it's not going to be too shiny but I won't know for sure until I see the prototypes.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 08:45:31 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?
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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 16:35:04 »
This is cool. Do want

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:04:37 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?

e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:28:43 »
Any chance for e-white cerakote?

e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting

Even if cerakote isn't an option, you can definitely find a cerakote applicator that can cerakote it for you after the fact. You'd also have more control over the color that way. Custom E-coating would be a little trickier but may also be doable.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #125 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:46:52 »
Design reminds me a lot of a guitar pedal.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #126 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:57:07 »
Also your crystals and decoupling caps on your PCB look rather far from your microcontroller (general recommendation is to place those as close as you can to the microcontroller). Love the design though.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:50:31 »
I'm loving the update. Still all in, this looks great!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #128 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:33:19 »
Also your crystals and decoupling caps on your PCB look rather far from your microcontroller (general recommendation is to place those as close as you can to the microcontroller). Love the design though.

Thank you! That's a good spot with the crystal and caps, I didn't notice that. I'll sort it out

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:50:10 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #130 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:16:26 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/

Not really, there isn't really the space for it. If you look at the exploded render in the original post, the knob sits on a pair of bearings with a hollow central shaft. You could probably add resistance by packing the bearings with thick grease though.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #131 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:47:16 »


If it has a dial as smooth as the Sony DMP-Z1.  :eek:

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #132 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 19:00:35 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.

Also, Iíd prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldnít even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 03:44:21 »
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.

Also, Iíd prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldnít even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.
I definitely agree, it would be great to see the copper change over time. Most people would probably choose the coated though

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 14:29:39 »
Love the copper. Definitely interested in a coated copper version.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:32:10 »
+1 for coated copper
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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #136 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 00:48:38 »
Love the copper. Definitely interested in a coated copper version.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #137 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 08:30:05 »
Looks like 李靜儀 Heidi Lee

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #138 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 02:37:33 »
Actually love the look of the copper knob. Iíd be happy spending a little extra for that if itís an option. Canít wait for this, whatever form it takes.


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Offline riziom

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #139 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 08:00:31 »
Any chance of releasing the knob files after the GB if, for example, someone wanted to cast a knob out of silver? Asking for a friend.  ;D

Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.

Offline youreyesonly

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #140 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:48:09 »
Iíd def be in for a copper knob if itís treated to protect from discoloration.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #141 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 10:57:45 »
Any chance of releasing the knob files after the GB if, for example, someone wanted to cast a knob out of silver? Asking for a friend.  ;D

Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.

Yes! Send me a message on discord - kwlodarczyk#1609 and let's work something out! I'd love to see a cast knob

Offline krey

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #142 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 11:13:36 »
Iím up for all!

Especially if it comes in shiny polished
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Offline GrimmOmen

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:51:21 »
All these people asking for coated copper and brass. No love for natural patina?

But seriously, it would be really cool to have raw copper/brass as an option.

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 17:34:53 »
Patina is bae.


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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 20:16:14 »
Raw copper is germicidal too

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #146 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 01:58:06 »
Any Update on these?


Offline 1corazon

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #147 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 04:55:51 »
Would love to buy this ASAP any updates ? I want to throw money at you !!!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #148 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 13:51:30 »
Hey everyone!

Sorry for the lack of updates lately. There have been some issues with the initial prototypes which have set us back a bit. They are currently stuck in customs on their way to me, as soon as I have them I will make a detailed post with all of the issues and how we are solving them. If all goes well that should be up in the next few days.

Be sure to check out our Discord here:

https://discord.gg/nuknf9K

Offline zoo

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - Prototype UPDATE
« Reply #149 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 09:15:57 »
The copper looks beautiful, I would love for it to be an option and would choose it over brass

Offline davydav

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 15:08:55 »
absolutely stoked about the resistance tuning ! can't wait to hear more :)

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 08:01:09 »
What is the feasibility of using a push/pull or toggle pushbutton for the rotary encoder so for example you can have spin volume and push mute?

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #152 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 09:26:16 »
The chip that we're using for the encoder doesn't support being a push button too. Though you could set one of the mechanical switches to toggle the mute

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #153 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 11:30:19 »
I like give me

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #154 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 22:57:32 »
I'll be honest: I was starting to lose interest. Like how much do I really need this? Honestly, I definitely don't need it at all, BUT once I saw that video of the knob spinning, I was 100% back. So pumped for this. One thing though, I am very much not into the knob with the giant grooves in it. I much prefer the subtle ridge with the gap in it used in the renders. For whatever that may be worth.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 15:46:29 »
I'll be honest: I was starting to lose interest. Like how much do I really need this? Honestly, I definitely don't need it at all, BUT once I saw that video of the knob spinning, I was 100% back. So pumped for this. One thing though, I am very much not into the knob with the giant grooves in it. I much prefer the subtle ridge with the gap in it used in the renders. For whatever that may be worth.

Glad you like it! I'm really happy with how well it spins.

A lot of people seem to prefer the notch knob over the crinkle. At the moment we are still planning to make both of them since there seems to be enough interest for both.

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #156 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 14:27:39 »
I'll be honest: I was starting to lose interest. Like how much do I really need this? Honestly, I definitely don't need it at all, BUT once I saw that video of the knob spinning, I was 100% back. So pumped for this. One thing though, I am very much not into the knob with the giant grooves in it. I much prefer the subtle ridge with the gap in it used in the renders. For whatever that may be worth.

Glad you like it! I'm really happy with how well it spins.

A lot of people seem to prefer the notch knob over the crinkle. At the moment we are still planning to make both of them since there seems to be enough interest for both.

Awesome! Thanks for the reply!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 19:57:52 »
Really digging the design of this thing, looking forward to the groupbuy!

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 11:35:46 »
Got a progress update on the new prototypes! They are looking much better than the last ones and they haven't even been finished yet.
We are also working closely with the manufacturer to get a higher quality finish from the sandblasting, they will be using a higher grit of glass beads which should give us a much smoother surface finish. We're expecting it to look more like the anodising on a Iphone 6.





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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 15:52:21 »
This is really really cool

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 21:49:13 »
Been checking in on this every week. I can't wait! That knob looks thicc af. I mean, hefty. Weighty. Beefy.

Alright.

Offline kwlodarczyk

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - 05 September Update
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 14 October 2020, 05:30:47 »
Can confirm, the knob is super hefty. The new protos should be getting to us soon too!

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Re: [IC] ROTR Macro Pad and Knob - FINAL PROTOTYPES
« Reply #162 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 11:21:03 »
Final prototypes are here!
https://imgur.com/a/FKYnYAW

Be sure to keep an eye out for a GB announcement in the near future!