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Offline G14D

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[IC] Frusta Experimental - Cerakote Numpad | More Photos Added
« on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 17:42:36 »







Frusta Experimental
by G14D from PicoLab, Hong Kong

This IC will last for 2 weeks, IC Form: Here
For Chinese buyers, there is also an IC now hosting on ZFrontier, visit the IC here




I received some feedback from you guys! Here are some quick response.

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Bluetooth or wireless connections?

Will definitely consider adding them, I'm now doing some research on them.

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Will there be chameleon coat as an option?

Holy fck...glad you asked man, glad you asked...If you didn't, I won't even know such beautiful coating exists in the world...
There are some local service provider in Hong Kong do provides chameleon coating service but they're expensive AF.
I'll ask them the coating price first, if it is affordable, I'll consider this option.


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Wavez green!

Well, as for Cerakote, they provide lots of military purposed green colour, which I don't really like.
But there is also an neon green option, shall we try that?


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Add supports of rotary encoder?

Sure, but not now, I'll add a encoder to my next 65% Frusta Fundamental Kit.

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Considering an Asia vendor?

As for shipping me personally do have the ability to ship all orders by myself, especially for China and Asia region orders. For worldwide, Since my family runs a exporting company for decades, we ship all sorts of products around the world. Although it is not a must to have a vendor in Asia, but I'll first consider Thic Thock if I need one. First of all, Jeff is actually a friend of mine. Besides, Thic Thock is a Hong Kong-based vendor.

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When is the GB going to start?

As I mentioned early this week, there are some problems with the first prototype, I need to order a new one. If everything goes well with the new prototype, the GB will start from before mid-October, most likely in early-October.



Here are some new prototype photos taken by Bokkey yesterday, they look stunning!

Check out Bokkey's website here and Instagram here.









Greetings.

This is G14D from Hong Kong, the founder and the only member of PicoLab. Frusta is the first mechanical keyboard project of mine, I designed both of the case and the PCB. During the development stage, I received lots of help and advises from the mechanical keyboard community, especially the support from the lovely Hong Kong mechanical keyboard family. This keeb won't even exist without them. Thank you, my brothers and sisters! (still not sure if there are sisters or not though...

Story

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I assembled my first custom mechanical keyboard in March 2019, it's a plain-vanilla, 60% Cherry MX silver keyboard. From then on, I became a keyboardholic, I built at least 10 DIY kits in the past 12 months. The most legit reason that I started to build custom keyboards is that they look so different when comparing to the stock keyboards on the market, I want something different from the majority, something special. As the same reason, I eventually developed my keyboard project.


Design inspiration

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As I joined this community only before a year and a half ago, I missed tones of GBs and most of my kits are purchased from the aftermarket. During my journey of me finding treasures in the aftermarket, I noticed that scratches on cases affect the price significantly as the case becomes quite "stylish". To fix this issue the first thing I think of is to "replace" the scratched case with an intact one, to be more explicit, replace the damaged side of the case. Here comes Frusta.



"Frusta" is the plural form of frustum, and this kit is assembled by 6 frustums, that's where the project name comes from. The Numpad is the first product of Frusta project so it's named Experimental, the naming principle is based on the alphabetical order. Therefore, the next product of Frusta project will be named Frusta Fundamental (mostly a 60% keyboard). One of my favourite keeb is CA66, I appreciate those huge and heavy looking keyboards. Frusta is not that vintage, but heavy enough.

The top frustum is inspired by NZXT H1 and I'm a huge fan of Yorushika.





Case specification



  • Material: 6061-T6 Aluminium (might change to 7075 for international groupbuyers)
  • Plate: Brass, 1.6mm / Plateless
  • Typing angle: 7 deg. (Bottom frustums support different typing angles such as 5 deg. and 13 deg. will be added later)
  • Layout: Numpad / Ortho 6x4
  • Finishing: Anodized / Cerakote (recommended)
  • Size(mm): 143.8*96.2*21.1-38.2
  • Weight: 730 gram (Fully assembled, with switches and keycaps)

PCB specification



  • Black colour when mass production
  • Multi-layouts solderable with leds / Single layout hotswap with per-switch RGB backlits
  • Fully supports QMK/VIA
  • with ESD protection
  • Type-C-to-A and Type-C-to-C Connection, fully functional when directly plugged into a MBP's type-c port



Pricing

Frusta E Standard Kit (anodized): Around $150 + shipping fee
Frusta E Standard Kit (Cerakote): Around $220 + shipping fee
Extra PCB, plate and frustums are for sale, I'll update the price after some calculations.

The standard kit comes with:
  • 6 Frustums
  • PCB(solderable or hotswap, optional)
  • Plate
  • Screws
  • O-ring gaskets for mounting
  • Nice packaging



Colour Options

Frusta E allows buyers to mix and match colours (e.g. black bot and top + white sides), extra frustums are for sale to create more colour combinations. the details will be explained in the GB. Colour options might change due to the feedback of this IC.



  • Cerakote (Limitied, 100 spots worldwide)
  • Anodize(Unilimited)

Cerakote colour references

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For international GB:


  • H-136 Snow white / C-242 Hidden white (confirms, but choose which white you prefer)
  • E-100 Black out (confrimed)
  • H-127Navy blue (TBD)
  • H-217Q Bright purple (TBD)
  • PMB-1371 Cherry blossom pink (TBD)
  • H-294 Midnight bronze (TBD)

For Hong Kong Fellows Only:



  • H144 Corvette Yellow

Cerakote by Fight Club Custom Coating, Hong Kong.





https://www.cerakote.com/applicators/31921/fight-club-custom-coating


Anodize colour references:

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  • Silver (Confrimed)
  • Red (TBD)
  • Pantone 10252 C - Grey blue (Confrimed)
  • Pantone 10293 C - Turquoise (TBD)
  • Pantone 10233 C - Violet (TBD)
  • Pantone 10150 C - Coral (TBD)
  • Pantone 10247 C - Royal blue (TBD)
  • Pantone 10391 C - Iron black (TBD)

*Gold anodized top frustums are for sale so combination like this becomes possible, but there won't have a gold anodize option, as I don't like it :P






Mounting systems

Frusta support multiple mounting systems:
  • O-ring gasket mount
  • Top mount
  • Tray mount
  • O-ring gasket mount OR top mount, AND tray mount

O-ring gasket mount is recommended. When the o-rings are removed, it becomes a top-mount keyboard.



Tray mount option is reserved for plateless / hotswap PCBs. when using a hotswap PCB, the plate is mounted to the top frustum using O-ring gaskets, and the PCB is mounted on the bottom frustum.





Unique feature of Frusta

Is more accurate to call Frusta a keyboard assembly structure more than a keyboard. As frusta is assembled by 6 frustums, the structure of Frusta allows users to modify their keyboard by changing only one frustum. By saying that, I mean not only different colour combinations but appearence and typing angles.

As an example, the early design of Frusta E's top frustum is actually flat. The appearence is different, but the structure is actually the same.



Let's go back to the sketch stage of Frusta E to talk about another example, there are actually more than one design about it's side view. I eventually pick the first one, but if I want to recreate the abandoned design IRL someday, the only thing I need to do is changing the bottom frustum. Long story short, modulization.

I'll partially open source the Frusta case, users can definitely make their own frustums to fit in the keyboard, but let's discuss that after the GB.


(Current design)


(Abandoned, this one is actually quite similar to AKI-S)



More render images

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Prototype

I received my prototype before I open this IC, The pink and white are paint instead of Cerakote. I know...they look painful, I hate them too. but at least they proved my concept works, right? I'm extremely unsatisfied with those prototypes and I'll change another factory to make some new prototypes ASAP. If prototype R2 fails again, then R3, if R3 fails, then R4...Frusta E is for sale only until I'm satisfied with the prototypes. I hope the GB can be started around mid-October this year.

Prototype photos by bokkey:

Check out Bokkey's website here and Instagram here.







Look at those gaps between the side frustums......I can't control myself...I MUST fix this!







Everyone makes mistakes in their first time...I promise, I'll try my best to fix them.



Prototype photos by me:















Thanks for reading, wish you have a nice day.
« Last Edit: Sat, 05 September 2020, 14:01:59 by G14D »



Offline G14D

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Re: [IC] Frusta Experimental - A Numpad Fun to Build | Cerakote
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 17:43:09 »
I'm back! with some updates.

TODO

☑ Listen to feedback and grab some interest from the community
☐ Add a banner for GH community
☐ Record a typing demo and upload it to the internet
☐ Open an Instagram and Discord server
☐ Fix some problems of the first prototype
☐ Order another prototype
☐ Cerakote prototpyes
☐ Start GB process
☐ Shipping



Update Log (Descending Order)

  • 6th-SEP-2020: Added some quick response to feedback and Uploaded more prototype photos and a section introducing some unique features of the Frusta project
  • 1st-SEP-2020: Thread started.



As for the wood keycaps, I'll open another IC to talk about them, we'are still planning to sell them internationally

Wooden keycaps:

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« Last Edit: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:13:48 by G14D »



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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 17:48:54 »
looks really interesting. i love the look of numpads so i'll be following this closely. glwic!!
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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:10:16 »
Buy one numpad and get all mounting systems, I am in :thumb:

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:12:58 »
This looks awesome and I want it but I donít know what Iíd use it for haha... maybe Iíll do it anyways

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:25:56 »
This looks awesome and I want it but I donít know what Iíd use it for haha... maybe Iíll do it anyways

Use it to play DDR

or Crypt of the NecroDancer   ;D

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:31:16 »
Looks very interesting to get all the mounting systems... I am in! :thumb:

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 20:51:40 »
All mounting systems in one numpad
I'm in!

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:23:39 »
been waiting for a numpad and stumble upon this...glwic!

really nice pictures btw

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:25:01 »
You son of a bee.... I'm in

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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:27:11 »
Look forward to it!
« Last Edit: Wed, 02 September 2020, 01:32:21 by phylogenyhkg »

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:28:09 »
Holy numpad Batman.....on top of the mounting options, love some of the color options. I did input Wavez Green as a color suggestion for the IC, no idea if it'll be accepted but aye, worth a try. I've been looking for a great, functional numpad, consider me interested!

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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:30:31 »
Hongkonger +1 here!! Where can I join the HKMK family for a localized experience? Thank you!

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 23:18:58 »
I gotta get me one of those
Obsessed with 60%

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 00:23:59 »
Hongkonger +1 here!! Where can I join the HKMK family for a localized experience? Thank you!

We have a discord server: https://discord.com/invite/fjHjQFT

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 02:22:22 »
Ahhh, I need 2!
Yes.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 06:45:54 »
looks great!

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 08:02:41 »
checklist:
numpad ☑
all mounting system ☑
designed by Hongkonger ☑

oh wait..some parts are made in HK?
shut up and take my money :D

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 08:09:06 »
Color me interested. This going to be an unlimited GB?

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 08:53:57 »
Just what i need right now!!  :eek: I hope GB will happen soon.

I hope it's unlimited GB. Because i might need 2 of these.

You have discord?

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 13:37:05 »
I respect the fountain pen, got a clear eco myself.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 16:56:10 »
Love this! Iím in

Top row is so sick


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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 07:54:45 »
Man, i just cannot wait for the GB. Any target dates yet?

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:16:58 »
Holy numpad Batman.....on top of the mounting options, love some of the color options. I did input Wavez Green as a color suggestion for the IC, no idea if it'll be accepted but aye, worth a try. I've been looking for a great, functional numpad, consider me interested!

Well noted, as Cerakote does not provide a limited sort of green colour, the only green I'll consider is neon green, I'll take a shot of it when I visit the Cerakote factory next time.



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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:18:59 »
Color me interested. This going to be an unlimited GB?

For Anodized version, yes.
For Cerakote version, 100 spots worldwide.



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« Reply #25 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:20:12 »
Just what i need right now!!  :eek: I hope GB will happen soon.

I hope it's unlimited GB. Because i might need 2 of these.

You have discord?

ofcoz, find me in discord G14D#9496

btw the asian vendors, thanks for your kindness, I can handle it :)
« Last Edit: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:23:29 by G14D »



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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 12:22:33 »
I respect the fountain pen, got a clear eco myself.

LOL, I did notice that lots of mechanical keyboard hoppiest have the hoppy to write in a fountain pen.



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IC form submitted. Bluetooth/Wireless + Red Ano will make this a must buy for me.

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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 13:41:39 »
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« Last Edit: Sat, 05 September 2020, 13:53:10 by The.Ryan.Gamer »

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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 13:45:57 »
Just what i need right now!!  :eek: I hope GB will happen soon.

I hope it's unlimited GB. Because i might need 2 of these.

You have discord?

ofcoz, find me in discord G14D#9496

btw the asian vendors, thanks for your kindness, I can handle it :)

Great! Added you on discord.

Reason i was asking for Asia Vendor is so that i can pay via Credit Card. My PayPal was hacked, they still owe me $1,350 and i don't feel using them anymore. I don't want to miss this just because of PayPal :(

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 08:46:51 »
definitely interested! been wanting a mech numpad for a while and the fact that hotswap is an option is a plus!

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 12:48:16 »
Idea seems interesting. Are there any videos of typing tests? While I like the ability to try out different mounting systems in a single kit, I worry that the many pieces may lead to vibration/ping.

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 15:24:38 »
Do ortho as hotswap. There are already options for standart numpad hotswap. Ortho is also sounthpaw! So everyone happy
« Last Edit: Fri, 11 September 2020, 07:48:57 by Domantas »

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 16:00:56 »
Looks fantastic and at a pretty good price. Looking forward to this moving to the GB phase
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 20:05:41 »
Southpaw support?

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 03:18:00 »
If I'm correct, it will include a hot swap PCB? For those who prefer.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 07:56:00 »
If I'm correct, it will include a hot swap PCB? For those who prefer.

It would be nice if hotswap would be ortho, because similar hotswap numpad versions are already on market and ortho can be not only numpad but also a macro pad!

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 10:07:59 »
Do ortho as hotswap. There are already options for standart numpad hotswap. Ortho is also sounthpaw! So everyone happy

Yes, There will be 2 versions of howswap PCB, buyers have the option to choose one to be included in the standard kit<3



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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 10:21:10 »
If I'm correct, it will include a hot swap PCB? For those who prefer.

Indeed, 1 hotswap PCB OR solderable PCB is included
« Last Edit: Fri, 11 September 2020, 10:49:55 by G14D »



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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 13:52:56 »
Really like the design choices, keeping an eye on this :thumb:
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« Reply #41 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 02:11:16 »
I'm curious about the neon green cerakoted color.

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 14:43:09 »
I'm curious about the neon green cerakoted color.

I'll take you a photo when next time I visit the Cerakote factory:)



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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 18:00:12 »
I'm curious about the neon green cerakoted color.

I'll take you a photo when next time I visit the Cerakote factory:)

 :D :D

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 18:41:33 »
Do ortho as hotswap. There are already options for standart numpad hotswap. Ortho is also sounthpaw! So everyone happy

Yes, There will be 2 versions of howswap PCB, buyers have the option to choose one to be included in the standard kit<3

Very cool, really good decisions, because mainly people will either go full ortho or full numpad :)

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 15 September 2020, 18:32:49 »
Ok so will it be wireless? It would be nice to bring to office without cables

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 01:40:31 »
Ok so will it be wireless? It would be nice to bring to office without cables

Bluetooth or wireless on this would slap so hard

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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 24 October 2020, 00:32:28 »
Iím in 1000%  :thumb:

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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 24 October 2020, 13:44:18 »
When this will become gb aproximetely? Honestly the later the better for me (too much gbs now) XD but would good to know aproximate. December would be on point

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« Reply #49 on: Sat, 14 November 2020, 03:33:53 »
I'm in for purchasing the numpad.