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Offline kingnestea

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[IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (2020.12.02. GB is live)
« on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:40:02 »
update 02/12/2020:

Group buy is live, locking this IC thread now.
https://percent.studio/collections/skog-reboot

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update 27/11/2020:

It's been a while, we are finally there.
The pre-order of Skog-reboot is launching at 8am PST November 30th and will be open until December 18th.
More details about colour option can be found on https://percent.studio/pages/skog-reboot
We have also sent out 8 prototypes to different reviewers.
Build stream/review of the board will be popping in the coming weeks!
Make sure you have joined our Discord to stay tuned!

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Update 2020.10.23.

Congratz to the winner of the knob design contest: JKaos



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Update 2020.09.20.

Updated structural renders and layout render.
Plate thickness changed to 1.5mm
Added support to split backspace, split right shift for the solderable PCB.
Please see update in red below.

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Update 2020.09.11.:

Rotary knob design contest

The entry of design contest is closed, link for votes will be coming soon.

More
Dear all, this is the official launch of the rotary knob Geekhack design contest.
Please download the knob model in stp format with the Google drive link below.
E-mail to submit your work: 270084014@qq.com

Submission
  • Please send an e-mail to the submission mailbox with at least 3 screenshots of your design from different angle.
  • If you don't use any 3D software, please submit your design with 2D or hand drawn sketches
  • To avoid your submission being lost due to e-mail transmission problems, please also post screenshots of your design in reply to this IC thread.
  • Please fill in the submission form with below format and include it in your submission e-mail
    • Community(Geekhack/Discord/Reddit):
    • User name:
    • Name your design:

Submission window

2020.09.11 - 2020.09.25[/s]

Prizes
  • Winner with the most votes: 1 x Skog-reboot with maxed out specs free of charge.
  • Participants of the contest who will be joining the Skog-reboot GB: A full set of knobs available during GB.

Knob model

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nsesnKQ1W7_q2ulK4QfRaTf4osKq0x6X/view?usp=sharing

Can't wait to see your creative works! Good luck everybody!

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Dear Geekhackers:

This is kingnestea from Percent studio, and I'm here to introduce our latest project Skog-reboot.

Some words

As the first keyboard designed by Percent studio, Skog is not that wide spread as the Canoe.
It was late 2019 when we had the idea to give this iconic board a refresh.




After more than 10 revisions, we have finally come to a design that meets our standard and obsession for details.
Long story short, let's get into the details.

Key features

  • Programmable rotary encoder above the arrow cluster
  • RGB led strip above the arrow cluster
  • Solderable PCB and Hot-swap PCB up to choice
  • QMK/VIA PCB
  • Bluetooth 4.2
  • Isolated gasket mount
  • Dampener between plate and PCB
  • Adjustable typing angle from 5.8 to 6.8
  • 1.5mm aluminum/FR4 plate

The case

The case will be anodised/powder coating/cerakote/electrophoresis 6063 aluminum depending on colour.
As a standard approach, we will provide colour combo's picked by us during the GB phase.
Different from the previous Percent studio GBs, this time we will provide Pantone colour code or colour samples for each colour available.









Available colour combo is tbd at the moment, we will probably put up a poll for this at a later stage.

Plate and PCB

At Percent studio, we agree that besides aesthetics, typing experience is not negligible.
We have added gaskets to the Canoe gen 2 and feedback is very positive.
This time, we are doing fully isolated gaskets to enhance this.
The keyboard kit will also come with a silicon dampener between the plate and PCB and a foam dampener between the PCB and bottom case, this together with the 1.5mm plate to reduce the hollow sounding.
FR4 will also be provided as material of the plate.






Old design:

More





This time, we will continue to provide Bluetooth options.
4 PCB options will be available during the GB phase.
  • non-Bluetooth & Solderable
  • non-Bluetooth & Hot-swap
  • Bluetooth & Solderable
  • Bluetooth & Hot-swap

The bluetooth function will be provided by a daughter board.
To avoid shipping issues, we are using a Nokia BL5C battery, which is easily accessible worldwide.
This also means the keyboard kit will not come with a battery if you choose the bluetooth option.

Next to the iconic RGB led strip, we are adding a rotary encoder above the arrow cluster to the Skog-reboot.
It will be programmable with QMK/VIA.

Please see below for supported layouts.

Solderable PCB:



Hot-swap PCB:



Group buy

If you browse zFrontier regularly, you will probably be aware of this board.
The Chinese GB is running from Sep. 8th to 11th.
We encourage you to avoid the Chinese GB and wait for the international GB to avoid possible communication and shipping problems.

The international GB will launch once we think it is ready and will be hosted on our website https://percent.studio/

Please also join our Discord to stay tuned! https://discord.gg/HZkuG2u

Design contest

We have launched a design contest on zFrontier for the rotary dial knob and received 18 creative designs in only ONE week!
We are also doing this with you Geekhackers!
The model of the rotary dial knob will be shared in coming days.
I'll update how you can submit your work.
After the defined window of submission, we will put up a poll.
Winner who has the most votes will receive a Skog-reboot kit up to your choice and your design will be provided as option during the GB phase and probably later in stock on our webshop.
There will also be rewards for all participants of this contest.




For more renders and the zFrontier design contest, please check out our IC post on zFrontier. It is in Chinese though. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/DrmOJg6B05lZ

Thank you for your time and specially to those who has supported Percent studio with the previous projects!
You are the reason why we are still doing this!
Keep safe
« Last Edit: Wed, 02 December 2020, 14:43:20 by kingnestea »

Offline kingnestea

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:40:28 »
To all:

I apology if I don't reply directly to your question.
Every question/suggestion will be looked into and talked with members in China.
Once I have certain answers, I'll update the OP.

Thanks
« Last Edit: Mon, 07 September 2020, 11:20:27 by kingnestea »

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:41:06 »
Looking good!

Offline kuro0renji

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:42:06 »
I'm in!

Offline qwe59qwe59

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:43:34 »
Looks pretty nice. Really like the baby blue one.  :D

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:46:24 »
Nice


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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:48:02 »
👀👀👀

Offline Capsy

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:48:10 »
Looks interesting. Will watch it's progress.

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 14:51:39 »
Seeing those design sketches at the beginning of the IC is something really refreshing that I haven't really seen in keyboards before - love the thoroughness of the design process being applied here.

Looking forward to that contest you mentioned too, will definitely give it a shot myself.

Offline verity

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:03:58 »
Very interesting design choices, love the use of space with the area above the arrow keys. I'll be following this closely.

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:08:15 »
Wowowow
(credits to Kokaloo)

Offline VytrioL

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:08:39 »
Will it support split backspace?

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:09:23 »
Love the design sketches to see all the work that went into this, really hyped!

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Offline Rumblehotep

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:11:49 »
Reactor knob pls

Offline kingnestea

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:12:27 »
Will it support split backspace?

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I don't see why not...I'll ask them to add this in the next revision of renders.

Offline KeebyKevin

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:17:01 »
I'll definitely get one!


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Offline Vlie

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:19:56 »
whens GB

Offline violeaf

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:29:50 »
On the zFrontier post it seems that the Chinese GB is happening from 8th Sep to 11th Sep. Is this IC for a separate GB?

Offline dhb82

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:30:37 »
All in, looks so good.

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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:31:34 »
On the zFrontier post it seems that the Chinese GB is happening from 8th Sep to 11th Sep. Is this IC for a separate GB?

The GB section very clearly covers this:

Group buy

If you browse zFrontier regularly, you will probably be aware of this board.
The Chinese GB is running from Sep. 8th to 11th.
We encourage you to avoid the Chinese GB and wait for the international GB to avoid possible communication and shipping problems.

Offline violeaf

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 15:34:37 »
The GB section very clearly covers this:

Group buy

If you browse zFrontier regularly, you will probably be aware of this board.
The Chinese GB is running from Sep. 8th to 11th.
We encourage you to avoid the Chinese GB and wait for the international GB to avoid possible communication and shipping problems.

My bad, can't read

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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 16:05:03 »
Super interested!

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 16:26:11 »
Very nice. I prefer Desert color.
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:25:20 »
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 17:27:56 »
Looks nice!

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:23:54 »
Interesting. Looks amazing.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:50:33 »
Very well done IC post! Honestly love everything about this board. Can't wait to see color options
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:50:43 »
**** YES! My Canoe needs a buddy  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 20:04:46 »
will there be a WKL blocker option?

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 20:23:59 »
I loved this. Would look great in a muted pink color

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 20:33:21 »
Finally a TKL with a knob. And tastefully done at that! fantastic stuff. Will be following closely as well.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 22:36:55 »
Normally I dont like the look of TKL's but this is beautiful!

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 23:15:47 »
will there be a WKL blocker option?
+1

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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 23:27:05 »
Im in

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 00:03:56 »
I'm in, especially for a navy or a bento shade of teal

we need more teal boards

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 00:05:05 »
Absolutely love this design will almost definitely be in on this

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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 01:35:36 »
would you provide POM plate? if yes that would be totally in for me

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 01:46:05 »
If google translate works well it says it is an ultimited GB, will it be unlimited for international customers too?
Thank you for GMK Striker R2

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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 01:53:31 »
If google translate works well it says it is an ultimited GB, will it be unlimited for international customers too?

Yes, it will be unlimited except the Casio version.

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 02:14:26 »
take my money



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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 02:23:47 »
This checks all the boxes for me.
I'm ready. Thanks for designing such a practical and beautiful kb!

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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 02:58:06 »
So is the GB only on Taobao?

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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 03:03:33 »
Having additional foam between PCB and Case will be really desired to make the Skog sound even fuller and less hollow.
« Last Edit: Mon, 07 September 2020, 06:17:13 by gavingoh »

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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 03:52:20 »
'X' Knob on RED is exactly what I want!
Will there any chance for the brass plate?

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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 04:25:19 »
will there be a WKL blocker option?
+1
+1 for WKL. Total weight for this keyboard? I kinda like fr4, one of my favorite plate material.

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Offline kingnestea

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 05:00:53 »
will there be a WKL blocker option?
+1
+1 for WKL. Total weight for this keyboard? I kinda like fr4, one of my favorite plate material.

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Both WK and WKL will be available

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 05:01:51 »
perfect!

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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 05:29:12 »
The wine coloured one is perfect! I love it, and I'm in for that one :)

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 05:48:04 »
...
The Chinese GB is running from Sep. 8th to 11th.
We encourage you to avoid the Chinese GB and wait for the international GB to avoid possible communication and shipping problems.

The international GB will launch once we think it is ready and will be hosted on our website https://percent.studio/
...

Why do you run GBs for the Chinese market first? Do your Chinese buyers have to accept a lower level of quality assurance? Or do we have to accept some nationalistic favouritism? This is probably a false dichotomy, I genuinely don't understand.

Offline kingnestea

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Re: [IC]Skog-reboot by Percent Studio (TKL custom keyboard kit)
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 07 September 2020, 08:29:43 »
...
The Chinese GB is running from Sep. 8th to 11th.
We encourage you to avoid the Chinese GB and wait for the international GB to avoid possible communication and shipping problems.

The international GB will launch once we think it is ready and will be hosted on our website https://percent.studio/
...

Why do you run GBs for the Chinese market first? Do your Chinese buyers have to accept a lower level of quality assurance? Or do we have to accept some nationalistic favouritism? This is probably a false dichotomy, I genuinely don't understand.

There are certain reasons why Chinese and Korean makers separate their domestic GBs from international GBs, e.g. ordering, shipping etc.
Chinese GBs are held mostly on Taobao and communicated on QQ rather than the GBs for western community are mostly held on shopify based webshops and communicated through e-mails or Discord.
Payment method is also totally different.
It is also not necessary that the Chinese GB will receive less qualitative product than the international GB, we will certainly merge the feedback we receive from this IC to the end product both for the Chinese GB and the international GB.
Knowing that the IC on zFrontier is done by now and the Chinese community has followed the development of Skog-reboot from months ago.
I do think running the Chinese GB first as we usually do is reasonable.
« Last Edit: Mon, 07 September 2020, 08:48:34 by kingnestea »