Author Topic: [IC] Venn - 65% keyboard (16/01/2021 STATUS UPDATE) (Read 49166 times)

gok101 · « **on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 01:57:52 »

Venn

65% leaf-spring keyboard

This is a 65% keyboard which combines the aesthetic of my first design, the Chiwi60 with elements from the 7V. I normally prefer 75% over 65% but I've noticed that my fiance pushes her 7V forward a bit with her Macbook to make space when she wants to use the latter so I thought that a 65% would suit her better.

0. CONTENTS

DETAILS
STATUS
VENDORS & PRICING
PHOTOS
FAQ

1. DETAILS

Case Angle: 7°
Materials: Anodised aluminium chassis with coated brass or stainless steel weight.
Plate: 1.5mm leaf-spring. Will test different materials
PCB: Designed by Wilba.tech with USB-C daughterboard - configurable with QMK/VIA. You can purchase compatible PCBs through Salvun and Keycult.
Layout options:

2. STATUS

(16/01/2021) PCBs have arrived but the plate feels too flexible around the edges and is a bit inconsistent and the plates vibrates too much for my liking. A revised prototype has been ordered in a burgundy.

Currently, I'm thinking of offering the keyboard in silver, olive green, blue (same as 7V), and burgundy with a black negative accent (the part between the top and the weight) and brass weight.

Upgradeable options for the accent to matte stainless steel or brass
and polished stainless steel weight.

Rainbow PVD weight as an extra.

Click here to watch a VOD of the build stream by Epsilon Keyboards.

3. VENDORS & PRICING

This will be sold as a group buy through TypePlus.
Price to be confirmed

4. PHOTOS

V1 Prototype

Silver/Grey mid/Rose gold PVD weight
Olive/Black mid/Brass weight

Silver/Grey mid/Brass weight

Silver/Grey mid/Rainbow PVD weight

Olive/Black mid/Rose gold PVD weight

5. FAQ

What colour options will there be?
I'm still exploring the colour and material options but silver and olive green are confirmed. I like silver and the olive is my fiancé's favourite colour.

belgium_waffles · « **Reply #1 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 01:58:23 »

loop | esc lab · « **Reply #2 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 01:58:42 »

Oh wow. I'm really digging the aesthetics of this. That plate looks

Any expectations on pricing?

GLWIC.

whirlwind · « **Reply #3 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:01:13 »

That multicolour weight, so good

Agilr · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:01:46 »

OtherAndrew · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:02:47 »

finally some good ****ing food

oTEMPE5To · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:05:32 »

You already know my opinion on this board. Will keep saving for the day this hopefully goes into GB. Fantastic work!

vi0till · « **Reply #7 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:06:59 »

Such a romantic board. Glwic.

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kk73715 · « **Reply #8 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:09:11 »

mass of keyboard? mass of weight?
can we see the leaf-spring plate?
is this a 5 piece construction? top case + bottom case + bottom accent + weight + plate&PCB
looks externally screwless to me unless the bump-ons are hiding them.

I like that you are designing this for your wife

crestia · « **Reply #9 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:09:29 »

salvation among the threads posted this week

gok101 · « **Reply #10 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:17:05 »

Quote from: kk73715 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:09:11

mass of keyboard? mass of weight?
can we see the leaf-spring plate?
is this a 5 piece construction? top case + bottom case + bottom accent + weight + plate&PCB
looks externally screwless to me unless the bump-ons are hiding them.

I like that you are designing this for your wife

I'll take a pic of a disassembled kit later. You pretty much got it right but the bottom that you see is just a cover plate.
I can't get this to be true screwless because I don't like going any smaller than M3 for case screws.

mawli · « **Reply #11 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:31:29 »

The weight looks stunning. GLWIC!

Slayer77 · « **Reply #12 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:36:04 »

Can we have some colors out of the norm, it would be great.

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santela · « **Reply #13 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:39:27 »

gok, everything you put out is amazing.

Which one do you think will be out first? Type-K or this? This will be GB and Type-K will be in-stock sale?

yuutsu · « **Reply #14 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:40:46 »

That silver + rainbow PVD? Very very nice.

Koniotaur · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:41:16 »

Does the PCB support ISO like you've previously said it might?

sirieous · « **Reply #16 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:47:33 »

Very good, me like.

gok101 · « **Reply #17 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 03:05:11 »

Quote from: santela on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:39:27

gok, everything you put out is amazing.

Which one do you think will be out first? Type-K or this? This will be GB and Type-K will be in-stock sale?

Things are pretty fluid at the moment. Type K is the priority and will be in-stock so it will take a while to have the units on hand but at the same time, it is further ahead in terms of development than the Venn.

Ustinj · « **Reply #18 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 03:07:45 »

so good, so clean, gok rocks

templa23 · « **Reply #19 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 03:42:14 »

That green is to die for

I'm guessing the rainbow weight would be sold in a similar way to how the black pvd weight was sold for 7v? Or is it just something you were experimenting with that might not make it in?

Regardless I am so down with this, everything you make is just jaw-dropping, I can't wait for my 7v to deliver and I would be waiting for the Venn and Type K GB with the same amount of interest

santela · « **Reply #20 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:05:04 »

Quote from: gok101 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 03:05:11

Quote from: santela on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:39:27
gok, everything you put out is amazing.

Which one do you think will be out first? Type-K or this? This will be GB and Type-K will be in-stock sale?
Things are pretty fluid at the moment. Type K is the priority and will be in-stock so it will take a while to have the units on hand but at the same time, it is further ahead in terms of development than the Venn.

Nice. Waiting patiently

paqji · « **Reply #21 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:09:15 »

it's been a long time since the chiwi, i'm very happy to see the same language come back. stay true gok

PikaJoyce · « **Reply #22 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:51:53 »

I remember being on the brink about getting chiwi a year(?) ago. Loved the aesthetic but wasn’t into 60s. So glad the chiwi inspired aesthetic is back in a 65%!!! Totally in on this one! Thanks for doing god’s work!

sup3r170va · « **Reply #23 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:57:36 »

Wow. Looks good.

Can I ask, what is the front height? I hope it’s not exceptionally tall

Wasabiz · « **Reply #24 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 07:26:23 »

Interesting beveled design, looking forward to see what other colours offered for the case and weight. Love it

Crack85 · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 07:28:26 »

Zeelobby · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 07:43:19 »

Looks great. As always

jackzyg · « **Reply #27 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 07:55:58 »

#gokdidagreatjob

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of_sam · « **Reply #28 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 09:01:55 »

I am a big fan of this.

hkhawk · « **Reply #29 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 09:09:51 »

Looks amazing, love the Rainbow PVD weight

GMK83 · « **Reply #30 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 09:19:18 »

Looking good Gok!

Freeboot · « **Reply #31 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:09:32 »

Stoked

Baka Bot · « **Reply #32 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:18:50 »

A nice refresh, glwic

kaisn · « **Reply #33 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:24:44 »

please consider WKL blocker

soloplayer · « **Reply #34 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:43:54 »

so this is leaf spring gasket like 7v, or traditional topmount with leaf spring?

EternaL7 · « **Reply #35 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:46:06 »

this board looks amazoing! will there be a hotswap option???

gordonderp · « **Reply #36 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:52:12 »

This will probably come before my chiwi R2 does haha

ComfortablyJuice · « **Reply #37 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 11:14:46 »

O-Ring Feet >>>>> Screwless case design.

o3okevin · « **Reply #38 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 11:49:53 »

This is lit

7empest · « **Reply #39 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 11:55:59 »

Stunning! Really like this one, the rainbow PVD weight is beautiful as well. Very nice!

Baka Bot · « **Reply #40 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:06:26 »

Quote from: kaisn on Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:24:44

please consider WKL blocker

I second this

Oblotzky · « **Reply #41 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:10:45 »

interested

vi0till · « **Reply #42 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:23:59 »

Quote from: Baka Bot on Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:06:26

Quote from: kaisn on Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:24:44
please consider WKL blocker
I second this

0.75u is cool.

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Macmutant · « **Reply #43 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:41:17 »

Looking good. Following with interest.

hkiri · « **Reply #44 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:52:58 »

I really dislike 65% but this aroused me!

FaKe_VirTual · « **Reply #45 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:55:49 »

I'll take three

gok101 · « **Reply #46 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 12:59:04 »

Quote from: templa23 on Sun, 20 December 2020, 03:42:14

That green is to die for

I'm guessing the rainbow weight would be sold in a similar way to how the black pvd weight was sold for 7v? Or is it just something you were experimenting with that might not make it in?

Regardless I am so down with this, everything you make is just jaw-dropping, I can't wait for my 7v to deliver and I would be waiting for the Venn and Type K GB with the same amount of interest

Still fleshing out what options I want to offer but yes, PVD would be treated separately.

Quote from: sup3r170va on Sun, 20 December 2020, 04:57:36

Wow. Looks good.

Can I ask, what is the front height? I hope it’s not exceptionally tall

I'll add a dimensioned drawing once things are finalised. I've already tweaked the bezel thickness for the next proto. It's not that tall though as you can see from the side profile.

Quote from: Koniotaur on Sun, 20 December 2020, 02:41:16

Does the PCB support ISO like you've previously said it might?

The graphite pcbs by wilba.tech are available from Salvun.com now and support ISO.

Quote from: kaisn on Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:24:44

please consider WKL blocker

I'm personally not a fan of wkl blocker on a 65% and it doubles the SKUs for the group buy. The only layouts which I'd consider providing wkl blockers for are 60% and tkl.

Quote from: soloplayer on Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:43:54

so this is leaf spring gasket like 7v, or traditional topmount with leaf spring?

It's sandwich leafspring. With how much contact there is, I don't think I needed the shims that the 7V had.
The reason why I went for plate leafspring rather than on the pcb is because it is easier to iterate and adjust the amount of flex. One downside though is that you can't go completely plateless like you could on the 7V.

Quote from: gordonderp on Sun, 20 December 2020, 10:52:12

This will probably come before my chiwi R2 does haha

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Owl · « **Reply #47 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 13:51:26 »

I can always tell when something is designed by Gok. Which is a good thing. Such a refined design that is classy but also so interesting that you can't stop looking at it. Missed out on the 7V but hopefully I will be able to get a hold of this. Great work as always.

treeleaf64 · « **Reply #48 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 13:51:29 »

When can I buy the green one

Zurg Eon · « **Reply #49 on:** Sun, 20 December 2020, 14:56:28 »

Looks exceptionally good. Would be in if I didn't already have a 65% on order. Really wanted to get in on 7V too, but I will try to get in on Type K

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Author Topic: [IC] Venn - 65% keyboard (16/01/2021 STATUS UPDATE) (Read 49166 times)