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[IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more | BIG UPDATE
« on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:24:22 »



Arabic. Greek.
Classic colors, Doubleshot with UV print.
Simple.
Not more, not less.






Basekit supports as many layouts as possible straight out the base kit.




Together, Base- and Spacebar Kits support:

•   Alice and other ergo layouts in both 2.25–1, 2.75 and 2–1.25, 2.75 configurations
•   Accent options for 6.25u, 7u and larger Alice bars
•   Standard split 6.25u space configurations: 2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75
•   Standard split 7u space configuration: 3–1–3
•   Boards that use 6u centered-stem space
•   Boards that use 3u space




40s Kit supports layouts like:

•   4x12 Planck default & community layouts
•   5x12 Preonic default & community layouts
•   Standard 12u staggered layouts
•   Standard 13u staggered layouts
•   Minivan and derivatives
•   UT47.2, Whimsy and derivatives




With this kit, I want to fix many issues that have been in Cherry / GMK Greek kits for a long time:

•   ΅ sublegend on ς key. ς isn't a separate letter; it's just a word-final version of Σσ. So its shifted position is used for a combined dyalitika-tonos accent character. You often don't see this character on sets with Greek sublegends because some of them are limited to alphas only, or base layer only. But since I have ;: and ΄¨ as base+shift sublegends, it would make sense to include ς΅ as well.
•   ς lowercase letter. Because it really is, unlike the rest of the letters.
•   Ψ letter fix. All known Kits are using Ψ and Θ shapes, which are really off. Cherry's Ψ has two 'arcs' instead of one (it's like U|U instead of ╰|╯). How it is: / How it should be:

•   Θ letter fix. For the Θ, the line in the middle isn't supposed to touch the inner edge of the circle. This, on doubleshot sets, might be done that way because of the limitations that doubleshot injection has. But since my set uses UV print, I can do it right here. How it is: / How it should be:

•   Γ letter fix. Γ and E should be about the same width; as well as Ρ and the top half of Β. How it is: / How it should be:

•   X letter fix. All known Kits are using the Cherry Latin X legend instead of having a proper Greek X that matches the other Greek legends in width.How it is: / How it should be:

•   Λ and Δ letter fixes. Λ and Δ should be the same width compared to A. In Greek, Α, Λ and Δ use the same base shape (Λ) and then just differ in the placement of the horizontal stroke (or lack thereof). So those three glyphs should have the same proportions for the triangle part. How it is: / How it should be:

•   Ω letter fix. In this second case, too, you can tell this was maybe done because of the limitations that doubleshot injection has. But in this set, I can be more flexible and do it properly. How it is: / How it should be:




Matching blue Accents to go along with the Greek Addon Kit






Mode Eighty by Mode Design

IRON180 by Smith + Rune

7V by gok

HAUS by Hand Engineering

Šaša 65 by Sale

Prophet by Cable Car Design
(old greek sublegends)

Cypher by Cable Car Designs
(old greek sublegends)












2 Deskmats planned. Pattern. Arabic. Greek.




























Additional Information about the Keyset and Interest Check:

  • Double-shot ABS Cherry Profile keycaps set
  • High quality manufacturer
  • Made in Germany by GMK electronic design GmbH
  • High quality 1.5mm thick keycaps
  • Colors from renders may differ in the final product
  • Sublegends will be UV printed
  • This Groupbuy is scheduled for the third Quarter of 2021


Deskmat Specifications:

  • 900x400x4mm
  • Cloth Top & Rubber Bottom
  • Stitched edges


To Do List:

  • More Renders
  • More Collabs
  • Finish Deskmats


IC FORM 1 (GENERAL)
IC FORM 2 (ICON or TEXT+ICON MODS)


MORE UPDATES ON A DAILY BASIS?








« Last Edit: Tue, 23 February 2021, 03:51:29 by SMOKEY »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:25:50 »
interesting

Offline gilbert

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:27:02 »
edit
« Last Edit: Mon, 18 January 2021, 02:14:38 by gilbert »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:27:31 »
yes

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:27:55 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:28:06 »
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?

This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:41:43 by paulgali »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:28:32 »
Hmmm...

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:28:56 »
That is not a Cypher. Fixed. Greek kit needs work.
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:12:53 by of_sam »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:38:05 »
I'm glad you at least didn't call it GMK Saudi or call it the Saudi kit.

Offline SMOKEY

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:43:41 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically
But thank you for the recommendation.
« Last Edit: Tue, 19 January 2021, 03:44:02 by SMOKEY »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:45:11 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
did you not learn from gmk hanguk taegeukgi

Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
edit
« Last Edit: Mon, 18 January 2021, 02:15:07 by gilbert »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:45:40 »
While we're adding more things, please add Hebrew subs.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:45:43 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:46:14 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.

Excuse me, how/what? Ask someone who lives in this region about that...

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:47:15 »
It is very unfortunate, that there is no split spacebars in blue.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:47:34 »
I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.
Considering this is an IC, you haven't referenced your choosing of green subs in the OP, and still didn't explain it, what's green represent in the Arabic World and Islam?

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:47:46 »
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?

This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat

1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:48:29 »
This ain't it, chief.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:52:10 »
Not a fan of the "two of the same legend on one key" look. Preferred how GMK Greek Beige did their legends (which is, to my understanding, how keyboards with Greek legends actually look)

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:53:50 »
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?

This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat

1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.

I retracted that sub legend comment guess not fast enough, that was my bad. Ok and Ok, understand numpad concerns, mods are your choice. I just feel like that deskmat is not up to scratch with the rest of the set, henced the rushed comment. I did not comment on vendors, pricing, full kitting at all.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:54:30 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Offline SMOKEY

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:56:02 »
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?

This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat

1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.

I retracted that sub legend comment guess not fast enough, that was my bad. Ok and Ok, understand numpad concerns, mods are your choice. I just feel like that deskmat is not up to scratch with the rest of the set, henced the rushed comment. I did not comment on vendors, pricing, full kitting at all.

All good! No hard feelings.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:56:55 »
Not a fan of the "two of the same legend on one key" look. Preferred how GMK Greek Beige did their legends (which is, to my understanding, how keyboards with Greek legends actually look)



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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:59:04 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago


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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:00:12 »
Consider text + icon mods? At the very least, sublegends on numpad is a MUST HAVE. No F13?

This honestly feels like a rushed IC; case and point deskmat

1. no
2. no - people should have the ability to use the greek kit with this set, too. doing 2 numpads would be too much in my opinion.
3. yes. rushed. 100%. because vendors and everything else jump out of bushes. because 2 deskmats are not finished and I am still brainstorming on those is rushed? the gb is due in AT LEAST 5 months.
4. The sublegend on the I _IS_ correct.
« Last Edit: Mon, 18 January 2021, 02:15:25 by gilbert »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:01:35 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago

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No I mean this set, but I could be wrong about the name..


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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:03:09 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago

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That's ePBT lol

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:06:12 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago

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No I mean this set, but I could be wrong about the name..

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Its GMK Classic Retro Arabic https://www.zfrontier.com/app/eqp/Rl9JEqBx89Op

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:06:54 »
Despite all, I will buy this if it goes to GB. Anything Arabic caps i'll take  :-X

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:07:51 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago

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That's ePBT lol

Spoiler OCO modern beige was always ePBT.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:10:09 »
Spoiler OCO modern beige was always ePBT.
Did people not know this?

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:11:32 »
I love these sort of sets, but is there not already a set called the same?

Originative ran GMK Classic Retro Arabic a while ago

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That's ePBT lol

You're right, blue sublegends were ePBT and red subs were GMK

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:46:33 »
Please add R4:Tilde/GraveAccent/ذ  - this would make possible to fit this key onto 60%/65% ISO layout without relegating it to FN layer (R3:Pipe/Backslash is already present in your kit).
Please consider doubleshot arabic legends - yes, I know, GMK does not do tripleshots so arabic legends would be same color as latins in such case.
BTW: Thanks for icon mods.


« Last Edit: Fri, 22 January 2021, 02:08:01 by krzank »


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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:55:00 »
I love the idea of an arabic set, but why not make it worthy of its ‘classic’ title and use text + icon with blue sublegends, the way Cherry would have done (and possibly did do) it?
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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:04:08 »
I’m in!

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:08:59 »
ive never said this but here goes....

Im in for all kits. (assuming all the fixes are done and it gets finalised properly, see you in 4 months)
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:18:07 by Surostu »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:20:33 »
Please consider full text mods, the icon mods feel out of place with the look of a classic set imo. really like the Greek set, thanks for f13 in base :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:22:21 »
Well I'm a fan of icon only mods but classic sets = text + icon mods.
Please consider changing that (as mentioned already by others).

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:27:09 »
Icon + text, windowed caps, scroll and numlock and possibly R5 are the only changes i would make but those are just personal preference. As far as i am concerned this set is an insta buy.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:43:06 »
Please consider text+icon mods for the proper classic set look.

Appreciate F13 in base and extra B’s everywhere.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 17:59:04 »
Love the classic sets :eek: :eek:

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 18:22:14 »
This thread is turning into a Not good moment. I am uncertain of the future.  :-X

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 18:24:18 »
I love it.
but yeah please consider text+icon mods, R5, and Arabic sublegends on numpad.
it's great seeing love to Arabic letters from this community

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« Last Edit: Sun, 17 January 2021, 22:20:07 by RA Can »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 19:06:44 »
I love it.

That said, if you wanna go icon mods, call it Modern Arabic instead. I think it'd be way more fitting, I personally don't really care about the name but I can already see a lot of people here that are complaining about "wrong legends". Either go icon+text, or call it something else.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 22:50:36 »
That said, if you wanna go icon mods, call it Modern Arabic instead. I think it'd be way more fitting
OG ISO-DE and ISO-UK sets used to have icon mods..

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 17 January 2021, 23:36:57 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.


Excuse me, how/what? Ask someone who lives in this region about that...
I'm Persian not Arabic, but Muslim nonetheless. No clue what significance green has.
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 January 2021, 23:39:30 by Ram »

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 00:00:10 »
Blue subs in base please. Otherwise looks great!

I know you are referencing the SAA.
I chose the color green specifically because of it's meaning in the arabic world and Islam.
But thank you for the recommendation.


Excuse me, how/what? Ask someone who lives in this region about that...
I'm Persian not Arabic, but Muslim nonetheless. No clue what significance green has.
In one of the chapters in the Quran, the colour green was used to describe the colour of garments and cushions of people in the afterlife. So, green has been associated with prosperity. Historical significance with flags I am not versed, but I am sure this has major influence.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 00:33:06 »
I think you should go with JTK and have a tripleshot keycap set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 00:55:44 »
+1 for Icon + text mods. And JTK too.

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Re: [IC] GMK Classic Arabic ...and more
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 01:06:24 »
That said, if you wanna go icon mods, call it Modern Arabic instead. I think it'd be way more fitting
OG ISO-DE and ISO-UK sets used to have icon mods..

pretty much every variant of ISO cherry sets use icon mods because there is no sufficiently elegant way to include text on 1.25u left shift and ISO enter (though there are some minor exceptions). ANSI cherry sets almost always used text + icon, the only notable exception being schneider OEM stuff which was obviously  a random request to their preferences, and even then the enter remained text + icon.
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