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Offline Phaedrus2129

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« on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 13:43:51 »
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Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 13:46:16 »
Nice but bit ugly light... Hope they come to resonable price like 6Gv2...
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Offline instantkamera

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 13:52:28 »
possibly very cool. More backlit boards is good judging by the amount of people looking for backlit these days.
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Offline gr1m

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 13:59:16 »
I can't imagine how much these would cost, since Razer's rubber dome/membrane keyboards are all $100.
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Offline Phaedrus2129

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 16:31:03 »
Quote from: ripster;212315
Sounds a bit more like ALPS Simplified (Fukkas?) but ya never know.  He jammed them pretty hard.


I was a bit "eh" on if it was blues or not. Too low pitched. I was thinking XMs maybe.
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Offline washuai

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 21:19:34 »
If it will get mechanicals somewhere people can touch them, I'll deal.  Definitely not right to see marketing win out over a quality product, though.
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Offline EverythingIBM

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 23:01:21 »
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I can't imagine how much these would cost, since Razer's rubber dome/membrane keyboards are all $100.


Probably the same price. It's so inflated that it doesn't matter what switches they use.

You have to remember, companies sell things way more than it costs to manufacture.
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Offline Phaedrus2129

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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 13 August 2010, 23:30:28 »
Thermaltake apparently has one upcoming as well, with more solid info. I'm going to shoot them a request for a review sample after I put up the XArmor review. I tried that a while ago, but got ignored, maybe because it wasn't ready yet, maybe because I didn't have enough reviewer cred. ;)
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Offline Bullveyr

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 01:43:45 »
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Mechanical switches are mechanical.

Offline chongyixiong

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 02:17:23 »
Razer's clever.

They put the keys on the top corner because that's where the LEDs are.. and chose not to lit the lower part of the keys.

Amazing.

Anyway, it's good cred for us users who spent so much on mechanical keyboards anyway because more people buying these keyboards leads to higher manufacturing volume which leads to lower keyswitch pricing and cheaper keyboards?
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 10:23:34 »
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Razer BlackWidow


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Offline muchadoaboutnothing

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 10:35:38 »
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I was a bit "eh" on if it was blues or not. Too low pitched. I was thinking XMs maybe.


I think it is. The press release makes it sound like MX Blues:

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With its optimized actuation force of 50g and an actuation point halfway down the full travel distance of 4mm, the Razer BlackWidow's keys deliver crisp response with exceptional actuation speed [...]


Razer makes some other amazing claims in the press release:
  • No other mechanical has been designed for gaming
  • Having a keyswitch with tactile feedback, clickiness, and actuation at half of full travel are all "unique"
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    Other features (media keys, macro recording, etc.) are nice though.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 10:35:58 »
They bother to go mechanical and still skip the NKRO? "Gaming optimized key matrix for minimized ghosting"  If it was NKRO, there'd be zero ghosting, not minimized ghosting.

50g actuation force, doesn't sound like cherry blacks, either . . Now, I'm curious what kind of switches it has.  Ok, MuchAdo is right, sounds like blues.

That press release definitely counting on people not being experts on mechanicals:
"Coupled with a unique key actuation point halfway through the full travel distance, the optimized mechanical key structure found in each of the Razer BlackWidow's keys provide for greater precision and accuracy versus other traditional mechanical keyboards. "

Oh yea, that convinces me their cherry blues or cherry blue copies are faster and more accurate, mmmhmm. [/sarcasm]

Although, maybe they actually modded cherry blues that allow hover?
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Offline instantkamera

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 10:42:06 »
there are actually two: one backlit, one not?
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/categoryID.49136200

n/m I see rip updated his post. Bast.
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Offline audioave10

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 10:45:19 »
I wonder if it would last for more than 1 year. The switches might be fine, but other aspects of their boards don't last very long.
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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 11:10:39 »
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They bother to go mechanical and still skip the NKRO? "Gaming optimized key matrix for minimized ghosting"  If it was NKRO, there'd be zero ghosting, not minimized ghosting.

50g actuation force, doesn't sound like cherry blacks, either . . Now, I'm curious what kind of switches it has.  Ok, MuchAdo is right, sounds like blues.

That press release definitely counting on people not being experts on mechanicals:
"Coupled with a unique key actuation point halfway through the full travel distance, the optimized mechanical key structure found in each of the Razer BlackWidow's keys provide for greater precision and accuracy versus other traditional mechanical keyboards. "

Oh yea, that convinces me their cherry blues or cherry blue copies are faster and more accurate, mmmhmm. [/sarcasm]

Although, maybe they actually modded cherry blues that allow hover?


This sounds more likely.  Cherry has similar, awkward wording on their Raptor Gaming site around blacks.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 11:26:45 »
I'm still skeptical until someone buys one, pulls a key, and breaks down a switch.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 11:31:21 »
Where does it say that it's their own switch?
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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 11:54:15 »
How convinient that their mechanical keyboard has pre-dated the mainstream demand for mechanical gaming keyboards, but no one has ever heard of it...
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Offline sealcouch

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 11:59:01 »
Ughhh. There's something about the style of all the razer keyboards. I just don't dig it.
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Offline exousia

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 16:13:39 »
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How convenient that their mechanical keyboard has pre-dated the mainstream demand for mechanical gaming keyboards, but no one has ever heard of it...


Huh? This product is brand new...how is it you can expect people to have heard of it?
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Offline aegrotatio

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 16:24:03 »
Impressive price for the non-lighted one.
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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:00:17 »
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Huh? This product is brand new...how is it you can expect people to have heard of it?


The point I was making is that I seriously doubt that it was developed in secret over the space of four years. More like they saw that mech keyboards were becoming popular a few months ago, and requested that a Taiwanese OEM churn out a few with their logo on it =P
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Offline Ekaros

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:08:19 »
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The point I was making is that I seriously doubt that it was developed in secret over the space of four years. More like they saw that mech keyboards were becoming popular a few months ago, and requested that a Taiwanese OEM churn out a few with their logo on it =P


So some guy at some point had say: "These IBM type Ms are pretty cool, should we make something like it?" "Nah, too expensive we can get more profit from cheap 1$ oem keyboard which we add some lights and stuff..."

Yep, then they got some desinger add few lights and "cool" funky desing and some other "features" around some OEMs tech and there it is presto...
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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:10:17 »
I still kind of want, but only if their Cherry Brown model comes out before I buy the Filco.
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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:35:22 »
Ok, so we're betting on alps copies, over cherry blue copies?  Given that this might be a faux fukka, the price tags are making more sense, though causing additional disappointment.  I guess I just need to wait and see, not that I'll be buying any of them, since they're full size, clicky and I want to know what one of these is like after a year of abuse.  

@ Aegrotatio - where did you see they were making a non-clicky version?  Both the black widows are supposed to be using the same Razer clicky switch, aren't they?
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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:43:57 »
I think you guys are joke thinking these are cheap OEM ripoffs without even knowing or testing it yet. And the pricepoint? Right on par with those on elitekeyboards...knowing that it's Razer, it's obvious they can buy in bulk and get everything at a much cheaper price. People blow out of proportion how much it really costs to make these things.
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:51:01 »
Could also be a custom Cherry. Maybe a brown or clear variant?

Browns are 55g, though, and blues are 60g.
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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:52:40 »
It's just another generic Cherry keyboard, and a pretty hideous looking one at that.

I'm pretty sure that it's been established elsewhere that iOne is the OEM.

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Could also be a custom Cherry.


Could be. Could also have gold-plated Beam Springs and give you a foot massage when you type. But given that it does the same thing as every other Cherry keyboard on the market, I wouldn't get too excited over it.

It also doesn't use clears - the site says that it uses clicky switches with a force requirement of 50g - Blue Cherries.

Browns are 45g, clears are 55g.
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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:53:32 »
Quote from: bhtooefr;214130
Could also be a custom Cherry. Maybe a brown or clear variant?

Browns are 55g, though, and blues are 60g.

Browns are 45g and blues are 50g.

Quote from: ch_123;214132
It's just another generic Cherry keyboard, and a pretty hideous looking one at that.

I'm pretty sure that it's been established elsewhere that iOne is the OEM.
If that's true, then should I ever change my mind about clicky and full sized, I'd still get the Xarmor, first.
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:57:07 »
Citation? Everything I had seen said otherwise.
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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 17:58:36 »
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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:02:56 »
I consider the highest pressure to the point at which it makes contact as the force required, not the pressure at the point at which it makes contact.

Both blues and browns have a higher force than that point.
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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:04:08 »
Well, those are the official manufacturer specs, and thus the ones that OEMs and their vendors would give.
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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:13:55 »
I'm not seeing those specs from Cherry anywhere, though.
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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:18:32 »
First page when you google "Cherry MX Specifications" They show specs for Blacks, Blues and Clears.

On an unrelated note, I was confused by your location, given that I thought Newark was in New Jersey. Wiki'ing Newark reveals that there's practically one in every state...
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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:44:05 »
Quote from: ch_123;214150
First page when you google "Cherry MX Specifications" They show specs for Blacks, Blues and Clears.

On an unrelated note, I was confused by your location, given that I thought Newark was in New Jersey. Wiki'ing Newark reveals that there's practically one in every state...


IIRC, mine's the biggest that ISN'T in New Jersey.

(Funnily enough, when I went to track a package that's coming to me, I saw this:)



As for the force... eh, I guess, although Cherry does cite 2.1 oz for tactile force on the blues - the 60 g that's been cited before.
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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:51:01 »
But 1.8oz for the actuation force, which is what everyone uses, even if it is somewhat meaningless (I agree that it should be measured by peak travel force)
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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 18:52:04 »
I'm gonna keep an eye on these, seeing as the filco I wanted wont be in stock at the keyboard co. till Christmas D:
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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:04:09 »
@washuai I saw several posts pointing to the maker of Razer taking a switch poll.  They said that they would definitely produce Cherry MX Blue first and if interest continues in that line they will produce Cherry MX Browns.

I can search the fora but I'm too lazy.
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:08:17 »
Quote from: ripster;214124
After the ABS M1 blowout OCN is now FILLED with  Mechanical Keyboard posts.  It was a gateway drug.

I'm so bitter about that keyboard's situation.  So what if it was not NKRO?  The complainers KILLED this excellent product on tests they would never encounter in real life playing games.  As a result, a great, silent, heavy, space-saving, and very well-put-together ALPS-clone keyboard particularly good for typists is now out of production forever.  I'm glad I bought two.
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:11:05 »
I had a Razer Lycosa, and it was great, but the low profile keys and scissor switches made it noticeable less comfortable for use than my ABS M1, and after a while, I picked up a Customizer 104, and haven't bothered with the Lycosa since.

If Razer can combine the amazing typing experience of my Customizer 104 with the macro features of the Lycosa, I'm definitely buying one. Hoping they're using MX Blues, from what some sources online say, possibly.
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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:13:31 »
Quote from: aegrotatio;214243
I'm so bitter about that keyboard's situation.  So what if it was not NKRO?  The complainers KILLED this excellent product on tests they would never encounter in real life playing games.  As a result, a great, silent, heavy, space-saving, and very well-put-together ALPS-clone keyboard particularly good for typists is now out of production forever.  I'm glad I bought two.


Ah, I was wondering what happened with the ABS M1. It says not available on Newegg, but the official site doesn't make any real mention of its unavailability. I quite like mine, it was an amazing leap forward from a board with scissor switches, but I much prefer the not-much-pricier Customizer/SpaceSaver
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Offline aegrotatio

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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:16:37 »
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Ah, I was wondering what happened with the ABS M1. It says not available on Newegg, but the official site doesn't make any real mention of its unavailability. I quite like mine, it was an amazing leap forward from a board with scissor switches, but I much prefer the not-much-pricier Customizer/SpaceSaver


We are very lucky that Newegg's house brand "Rosewill," who also were selling this keyboard under the ABS brand, are not gun-shy and are trying again this fall.  Unfortunately for us, it will be a Cherry Blue keyboard in much the same space-saving size.  I would like to see them make a Cherry Brown version since that's close to the non-clicky ALPS that the ABS M1 is.

Still, like Ripster says, the ABS M1 has gotten so many people into the world of quality, mechanical keyboards, and I think that helped convince Newegg/Rosewill/ABS decide to try again.
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Daily Drivers: Ducky DK1087XM || DSI ASK-6600 || Rosewill RK-9000 BL, BR, BL, and RE || ABS M1 || Das Keyboard Silent || HHKB Lite and Lite 2 || DSI Big Font (kids love it)
Yearning for: Any ALPS keyboard || Any tenkeyless mechanical keyboard
Permanent collection: Poker Blue and Brown || Adesso MKB-125B || SIIG MiniTouch Geek Hack Space Saver || Chicony 5181 Monterey Blue || Chicony 5191 Clone Cherry Blues || Key Tronic 3600 || Unicomp Endurapro & SmarTrex || A crate of IBM Model M and Model M Space Saving boards || NeXTstation Slab || Amiga 3000 || BTC-5100C black and beige || SIIG MiniTouch Plus black and beige
Retired collection: SIIG MiniTouch Monterey Blue || Razer BlackWidow

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:37:33 »
"individually backlit keys and 5 lighting profiles."

me want.

50g is almost as light as browns tho :(

"2x more sensitive than normal keys". Hmmmm. not sure thats a positive for a typist.

lower-case markings on the keys is a neat touch.

the video sounds like some kind of alps to me. There's a "hissing" on the downstroke that reminds me more of alps than cherries.  
also in the video anyway it doesnt sound like there's a click leaf, the main noise seems to be from bottoming-out clack.

They keep saying its a 'custom' design though.
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Offline aegrotatio

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:45:36 »
Gotta say, ALPS always saves you money since there are manufacturers willing to produce ALPS copies for cheap.  I have no practical complaints on the quality of ABS M1, DSI ASK-6600, and DSI Big Font keyboards, all of which are variants of fake ALPS.
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Daily Drivers: Ducky DK1087XM || DSI ASK-6600 || Rosewill RK-9000 BL, BR, BL, and RE || ABS M1 || Das Keyboard Silent || HHKB Lite and Lite 2 || DSI Big Font (kids love it)
Yearning for: Any ALPS keyboard || Any tenkeyless mechanical keyboard
Permanent collection: Poker Blue and Brown || Adesso MKB-125B || SIIG MiniTouch Geek Hack Space Saver || Chicony 5181 Monterey Blue || Chicony 5191 Clone Cherry Blues || Key Tronic 3600 || Unicomp Endurapro & SmarTrex || A crate of IBM Model M and Model M Space Saving boards || NeXTstation Slab || Amiga 3000 || BTC-5100C black and beige || SIIG MiniTouch Plus black and beige
Retired collection: SIIG MiniTouch Monterey Blue || Razer BlackWidow

Offline ManjyomeThunder

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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 18 August 2010, 23:58:35 »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWYLJIibxE&feature=search

Watching this now, perhaps it will provide some insight.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 19 August 2010, 00:05:46 »
One good thing - since its a razer - it should eventually be on the shelf (to fondle and try out) in a lot of B&M stores like best buy and staples.
(and that also means full service for it - no hassle exchanges/returns)
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Offline ManjyomeThunder

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 19 August 2010, 00:08:47 »
Nothing particularly interesting out of that youtube link except for some more audio samples really. That, and the fact that the keys are really light. Wish the guy would have popped a cap off and shown what kind of switch.
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Current Favorite:  Noppoo Choc Mini with Cherry MX Blues
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Other stuff: Razer DeathAdder, eXactMat

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 19 August 2010, 00:11:58 »
Quote from: ManjyomeThunder;214270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWYLJIibxE&feature=search

Watching this now, perhaps it will provide some insight.


dude's camera work made me sea-sick.

is it too much to ask these reviewers to just stop talking and press a few keys down at different speeds?  Christs sake.
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