[GB] Viktus Minne - 40% Topre and MX board - In manu

[BlindAssassin111]

Viktus Minne
by
Viktus Design

Specifications:

  • Dyed PC case with brass weights
  • Atomic purple and Smoked options
  • HHKB-esque minivan layout with a 10U bottom row
  • Burger top mount or isolation mount (isolation requires plate modification and purchasing the isolation mounts on your own)
  • Type-C on the left like its larger sibling
  • Not minivan pcb compatible due to layout options and USB location
  • Solder only PCB for MX
  • Topre PCB option
  • Multiple split and big bar layout options
  • Same height/angle as Sinne so they will look great next to each other
  • Minne means "memory" in swedish, Sinne means "mind" in swedish, as well as Minne means "mini sinne"
  • 7° typing angle



Where to buy:

Viktus.Design


Dates and Timeline:

• GB opens November 1st @ Noon CDT
• GB closes November 30th @ Midnight CST December 16th @ Midnight CST

• Shipping estimated for Q2/Q3 2023



Pricing and Options:

• Parts Included:
    • Board w/weight
    • Plate (brass for topre, material of choice for MX)
    • MX or Topre PCB
    • Screws and feet

• Pricing:
  • Case: $370
    - Smoked PC w/sandblasted brass weight
    - Atomic Purple PC w/sandblasted brass weight

  • PCBs:
    - MX: $30
    - Topre: $45
      - Comes with screws/standoffs

  • Plates:
    - MX [dual 3U/2.75U-2.25U OR 7U/10U]
      - Brass: $35
      - Black POM (p3d, glossy): $20
      - Forged Carbon Fiber: $25
      - Clear PC (p3d, sandblasted): $20
    - Topre [dual 3U OR 7U/10U]
      - Brass: $35
        - Comes in either R2 RGB or R1/R2/Novatouch/Deskeys support
        - R1/R2/Novatouch/Deskeys only available in dual 3u due to stabilizer limitations at this time.

• Note: Boards include PCB/Plate of switch choice, so you can have MX or Topre included by default and you are not forced to buy MX or Topre if you only desire one option.
• Note: Topre PCBs come with the hardware kits, plates do not.

• Quantity:
    • MOQ: 40
    • MAX: 50

• Shipping:
    • Shipping will be calculated at checkout. For international orders shipping at checkout might say USPS but shipping will actually be via UPS.



Pictures:






• Render Album
   Album


Prototype Build:

R2 RGB build lubed with 3204, using Des #3 rings and Des V2 brown domes. DCS Paperwork.



Layouts:

• MX Layouts

Blue is one plate, Green another. Red is PCB only

• Topre Layouts

Blue is one plate, Green another. Red is PCB only



Special Thanks:

• OneCreativeMind for the help, feedback, and inspiration along the way.
• Matt for the massive amount of help with the PCBs and firmware, without you this literally wouldn't be possible.
• keebnewb for helping with firmware guidance and quick turnaround on test firmware modifications.
• Olivia/OJ for the renders with amazing turnaround time.


FAQ:

• How does the plate support R1 and R2 housings? Aren't they different? R1 and R2 "normal" topre housings are the same, confirmed with measurements in hand.

• Can you release the files so I can 3D print it? No.

• Will there be an aluminum version? At the moment there isn't plans for it.

• Are deskeys housings supported? Yes, they use the same plate cutout as R1/R2 "normal" topre so therefore are supported.

• Can you do an aluminum weight to save money? That won't help things as much as you expect them to, aluminum weights don't shave much cost.

• RGB? MX has RGB, Topre will not.

• Can you make it hotswap? No. Making a hotswap PCB isn't just throwing a socket on the PCB and calling it a day. Hotswap requires a fresh restart for almost the entirety of the routing and therefore is a massive time commitment. Plus not everything needs to be hotswap, please stop asking everyone on every board without thinking about what you are actually asking the designer(s) to do.

• Will there be other topre plate options like POM/PC? As mentioned above, Plates need to have threads tapped and therefore metal will be the only option. I am limiting to a single material for now to make logistics easier given how many plate options there needs to be already. Yes it is possible to do an entirely different setup using very small standoffs so no threads have to be tapped but that would over complicate an already complicated GB due to options. You can explore other materials on your own.


Updates:

To follow the project you can keep up with this thread, my website Viktus.Design or via the Viktus Design discord server where I will be most active.

Discord invite: https://discord.com/invite/4w6aUKb

[dededecline]

Hot

[treeleaf64]

Viktus Sinne and Viktus Minne   Next one is Viktus Linne

[fruitykeeb]

nut

in for twelve

[paperassgasket]

SHE THOCC

[patcoll]

nodders

[Woovie]

 

[Finite]

The only way to make buying my first topre board better: making it 40% and MX keycap compatible. Thanks BA, you're the best.

[Hedgey]

The hard part will be finding funds for both an MX and a Topre board.  (Yes 2 cases.)

[fortissim2]

Love it, GLWGB!

[BlindAssassin111]

GB Live:

The group buy is now live and available until the end of the month or until the max is hit.

Buy Here

[BlindAssassin111]

Update:

After the first 9 days, we are already halfway to MOQ. If you are on the fence you still have until the 30th at midnight CST but don't hold out too long or you may never get one!

Buy Here

[BlindAssassin111]

Final Week:

Nearly at MOQ so make sure to head over and place your orders before it is too late.

Buy Here

[evangs]

How do I calibrate the firmware after building the board?

[BlindAssassin111]

How do I calibrate the firmware after building the board?

To calibrate, you would need to enable the debug information in the firmware. In 'ec.c', 'ec.h', and 'minne_topre.c' you uncomment the marked lines and in info.json (might be keyboard.json now but haven't checked the names in QMK source in a while) you need to enable the console. From there you then build and flash it to the PCB. Using the QMK Toolbox console you would take the values at rest and pressed for each key (best to hold a switch for multiple seconds to let the matrix print a few times) and adjust from there. Most of the time you just need to adjust the default values for the full board (done in a single location) based off the average of all the switches. In some situations, like for the two outside switches on the bottom row, you will have to edit the values in the switch statement at the bottom of 'ec.c'. For reset and actuation you always want reset to be lower than actuation by at least 5, but it is best to be closer to 10 which is not possible in all situations.

It is a bit involved but writing an auto-calibrate function is well beyond my skill set. Cipulot is working on writing one for the OSAv2 firmware so maybe once that is done it can be made to work on this but that has an unknown timeline as he first started doing the OSAv2's back in april of this year. That seems to have proven more difficult than initially expected so that is a "will see" type of thing unfortunately.

[evangs]

I found the commented out code and was able to stumble through the process. Thanks for confirming and the added detail.