is there anywhere i can get Blank Key caps for filco?

[bakageta]

I got as far as the order details page on Armygroup, at which point Google Translate completely craps out. It doesn't like those dynamic forms very much.

Maybe I'll try again later when I'm feeling more patient

If you're using firefox, you can highlight the dropdown, view selected source, and copy/paste that into a separate google translate window. You'll need to set the first dropdown before it'll change the second one, but it's all pretty straightforward.

[johnnysasaki]

If you're using firefox, you can highlight the dropdown, view selected source, and copy/paste that into a separate google translate window. You'll need to set the first dropdown before it'll change the second one, but it's all pretty straightforward.

Or you can be like me and employ Chinese friends and family for slave-labour wages to translate for you.

[jaynoon]

Weird. When I go to create a new address in the armygroup system, I don't get space for a zip code, just an address. I put my whole address in that.

But when I go to checkout, it has a zipcode field that's blank and uneditable. Anybody else seen this / got around it ?

[johnnysasaki]

Weird. When I go to create a new address in the armygroup system, I don't get space for a zip code, just an address. I put my whole address in that.

But when I go to checkout, it has a zipcode field that's blank and uneditable. Anybody else seen this / got around it ?

I put my street address (e.g. 123 Fake Street Unit 4) in the address field to the lower left (translates into "Building Address/Name/Number" or something) and my region with zip/postal code in the top-right box (e.g. Toronto, Ontario, A1B 2C3). Country selected within the dropdown.

This is for AG's site anyway. Don't know about the other one.

[FoxSpirit]

*looks at profile pic*:tongue:

:lol:

That said, how about curious people?
I read about mechas and how they are suppossed to be awesome but without testing, I couldn't say. So it got one. And now I'll will get more :tongue:

Okay, so I get a new monitor in pretty regular intervals too. Damn you OLED, you take way too long to arrive to finish this once and for all >.<

[woody]

Okay, so I get a new monitor in pretty regular intervals too. Damn you OLED, you take way too long to arrive to finish this once and for all >.<

So, have you got PA301W?

OLED could be outphased before becoming norm.

[Nadger]

what technology is set to outphase oled already?

[Fwiffo]

OLED is the Duke Nukem Forever of display technologies. Actually, most display technologies are the Duke Nukem Forever of display technologies. With all the setbacks and delays, it's just taking reasonable odds to suppose something else is going to come along.

The same thing happens with storage technologies. Hard drives are supposed to always be nearing a brick wall, but they never hit it, and whatever is supposed to replace them (bubble memory, magneto-optical, whatever) never really pans out. Flash SSDs are the closest so far, and really, they're just creating a new layer rather than replacing HDDs outright.

[Fwiffo]

Probably it'll get replaced with OLED displays.

[Nadger]

Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

I was thinking ClickClack Keys if he doesn't ship soon.

Hah - or Wow's Red Shirt Guy's Virginity.

[woody]

what technology is set to outphase oled already?

Set? Dunno. Judging by the time it took LCDs to become higher-quality than CRTs, these processes are very slow and expensive.

I am much more interested in the e-ink and the likes, where you can have totally reflective display, which draws no power on static picture. A colour one with good size/resolution and refresh rate, even with 5-bits per component will rule my world.

In the rare case Duke Nukem doesn't take forever, we can simply shift to Unicomp Mini.

[FoxSpirit]

http://www.oled-info.com/
Follow it all there. Oled IS coming. It simply took ages to get a reasonably stable blue that won't decompose after just 5000 hours. Now it's mostly about scaling to become cost effective.
Oh, and it will probably late 2011 when the ink-jet tech has eradicated it's current problems so you can start roll to roll manufacturing. The roadmap is somewhere around 2015 for price parity with current LCD tech. They need to recoup the investment. Oh, and expect a flood of OLED devices mid to late next year also. Samsung is REALLY gearing up it's production capabilities since they are currently supplylocked thanks to overwhleming demand for small device OLED.

Also, LCDs are NOT higher quality than CRTs, they simply have different strenghts. Their response times and contrast simply blow. ~1:3000 is currently the ceiling and that's on PVA which simply isn't as fast as TN. Not to mention those 2ms are a pure hoax and merely a "the very very best case" value.

eink displays are awesome but seriously, the current "refresh rates" are... yeah. I mean, awesome for reading texts but watch those page flips. And 5-bit per channel? So much banding. >.<

Okay, sorry, WAY off topic here ^.^;;

[woody]

Also, LCDs are NOT higher quality than CRTs, they simply have different strenghts.

I guess you know about modern IPS types, including the recent 10-bit ones. Except for some specific niche tasks, can you cite reasons to prefer CRT? I know why I don't.

eink displays are awesome but seriously, the current "refresh rates" are... yeah. I mean, awesome for reading texts but watch those page flips. And 5-bit per channel? So much banding. >.<

Yep, I stated that progress in refresh rate is necessary. And yes, 5-bits per channel is okay-ish. I use laptops in 16-bit mode to conserve battery, no problemo. How much a non-photo oriented desktop really needs?

[Fwiffo]

http://www.oled-info.com/
Follow it all there. Oled IS coming.

I'll believe it when I can buy it. OLED has been a year or two away for years now, and the next six months in Iraq are the really important ones.

[fssbzz]

damm filco, canceled and refund my payment for the "out of stock" blank key cap.
I guess i have to go for ArmyGroup.

[FoxSpirit]

I guess you know about modern IPS types, including the recent 10-bit ones. Except for some specific niche tasks, can you cite reasons to prefer CRT? I know why I don't.


Yep, I stated that progress in refresh rate is necessary. And yes, 5-bits per channel is okay-ish. I use laptops in 16-bit mode to conserve battery, no problemo. How much a non-photo oriented desktop really needs?

IPS is nice, but contrast is around 1:12-1:1500 for the good ones and they are still slower than TNs. Both things where a CRT is superior.
And 10-bit? I'm certain you mean displays with 10-bit LUTs, they have been around in the professional market for quite some time. And are sooo badly expensive. I don't get it why it's reserved to upper-class displays, the tech must be inexpensive and without it any tweaking of monitor contrast and gamma curves results in banding >.<

Are you sure 16-bit mode conserves battery? Didn't use it in ages ;-)

@Fwiffo:
Who cares how much the roadmap is delayed. There are already small devices OLED being used and it will only go up. LG already released a first consumer buyable one, sure, $3000 for 15 inch but hey, LCDs started out even more ridiculous. For a much, much worse tech. Plus, OLED lighting.
Not on anyone normal's roadmap but here in Europe Philips and Osram are already clearing the stock of their energy saving fluorescent lamps. (because the decision to BAN incandescent here in Europe certainly was a completely ecologically propelled decision... yeahhhhhh)

[woody]

IPS is nice, but contrast is around 1:12-1:1500 for the good ones and they are still slower than TNs. Both things where a CRT is superior.
And 10-bit? I'm certain you mean displays with 10-bit LUTs, they have been around in the professional market for quite some time. And are sooo badly expensive. I don't get it why it's reserved to upper-class displays, the tech must be inexpensive and without it any tweaking of monitor contrast and gamma curves results in banding >.<

Are you sure 16-bit mode conserves battery? Didn't use it in ages ;-)

Yes, 10-bit panel. LUTs are 14-bit. Like this:
PA271W-BK-SV

16-bit mode conserves battery because of half the memory accesses on each refresh. Benefit depends on what power the other components draw.

[FoxSpirit]

Yes, 10-bit panel. LUTs are 14-bit. Like this:
PA271W-BK-SV

16-bit mode conserves battery because of half the memory accesses on each refresh. Benefit depends on what power the other components draw.

Ah, ok.

And as specified, 1:1000 contrast ratio. Not very breathtaking. As is the 7ms gtg response time. The alternate 16ms given on the site is probably the average.

Sure, the color accuracy is awesome as well as color reproduction but the rest makes this a purely graphics monitor. Nearly got myself a Fujistu IPS which is reportedly pretty fast and has amazingly lwo input lag for an IPS but in the end I settled for 120Hz with a similar contrast and am pretty happy for gaming.

You make me a LED backlit 120Hz IPS and I'll very gladly come on board. But nothing on the horizon yet :-(

[F2a]

All aboard the off topic train.

I have the HP ZR30w and I use it for gaming. It's comparable to the fastest TN panels and has no input lag. Disadvantages are obviously it costs more than a huge TV, and for competitive gaming there is no way you would want a 30" monitor.

[kidchunks]

damm filco, canceled and refund my payment for the "out of stock" blank key cap.
I guess i have to go for ArmyGroup.

Not sure if armygroup has any in stock either. I placed my order on the 19th and still no shipping information.

[woody]

Aren't networked games fixed to 60 Hz or such? I think ETQW was even 30 Hz.

Lag of LCDs is mostly from being one frame behind, due to processing. Sometimes two frames, for some models. Even if it had CRT output but had a framebuffer to handle resampling and various processing, it'll be lagging.

[fssbzz]

Not sure if armygroup has any in stock either. I placed my order on the 19th and still no shipping information.

same, i placed my order 2 days ago, i get no feedback from the side at all yet.

[lloyd]

same, i placed my order 2 days ago, i get no feedback from the side at all yet.

That's odd. I placed an armygroup order on the 20th and got a shipping notification and tracking number this morning.

[kidchunks]

That's odd. I placed an armygroup order on the 20th and got a shipping notification and tracking number this morning.

Yea it is odd!
If I don't hear anything back from them by Friday. I'll send a message to customer support.

[fssbzz]

but i just login into my armygroup, check the status of the item i bought,
it says stock in ready. something like they preparing for stock.

[F2a]

You guys paid via paypal right? I ordered Friday and my order shipped today. Just wait another day or two, they are probably busy.

[fssbzz]

You guys paid via paypal right? I ordered Friday and my order shipped today. Just wait another day or two, they are probably busy.

yup. paypal.
thanks for the head up tho

[brianmeidell]

It looks to me like the blank keys on my Das Keyboard match the ones on the Filco Majestouch keyboard I have, so if all else fails, you can get a blank Das and swap the keys out

[kidchunks]

It looks to me like the blank keys on my Das Keyboard match the ones on the Filco Majestouch keyboard I have, so if all else fails, you can get a blank Das and swap the keys out

Funny, that was going to be my next move.

Update:
Sent them a message via customer service and within 30 minutes they replied with the tracking number.

[~Blood~]

All aboard the off topic train.

I have the HP ZR30w and I use it for gaming. It's comparable to the fastest TN panels and has no input lag. Disadvantages are obviously it costs more than a huge TV, and for competitive gaming there is no way you would want a 30" monitor.

Also, its 16:10. I thought about buying the 24" version for gaming lately but then discovered the 16:10 ratio, turns me off.

Too bad, because the screen itself is impressive.

[Fwiffo]

Why? 16:10 is great! It's just usually way overpriced compared to otherwise identical 16:9 screens.

[fssbzz]

i got the shipping tracking today.

[~Blood~]

yea its not a bad format, most of the games are optimized for 16:9 today though, so u have a broader field of view

[kidchunks]

Congrats!   Looks like the blank key set was about $23 US too.  

How much was shipping?

And thanks for the link.  I added to the Taiwan section of the "Mechanical Keyboards Sorted By Switch" buying wiki.

$25 I think, my total was $49.34.

Now if only the postman would bring this box in mint condition.

[~Blood~]

I wonder if the blank keys without coating from filco are as good as double shots if you take away the need for letters?

[kidchunks]

Chunks do you read Chinese, or is your chrome translator just better than mine.  I got to the point where I made an account, or at least I think I made an account...and now I'm kinda stuck

Nope, just translated and went through order process. My first time was with pchome, so I guess the second time around wasn't so bad

[johnnysasaki]

Chunks do you read Chinese, or is your chrome translator just better than mine.  I got to the point where I made an account, or at least I think I made an account...and now I'm kinda stuck

A trick I figured out is to force Chrome to reparse the page. Sometimes things get changed on screen but the translator doesn't know to do another pass. Just set the "English" in the "Translate from Chinese to English" to something else (like Dutch). Let Chrome chug through. Then, swap it back to English. It should force a reparse and tada, you have a translation that is updated.

Have fun!

Note: This obviously won't work on the text that's actually embedded as images, but those can be figured out by trial and error (and some clever guessing).

[F2a]

Just a FYI I'm selling a set in the marketplace if you don't want to order from Taiwan.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Gosh, i just remembered there was this thread. Otherwise i wouldn't have started another

*face palm

[commandercup]

Oy, is there anywhere to buy blank keycaps in other colors for the filcos? I want either white and red to alternate.

[fssbzz]

i don't think filco carry any other blank color key cap.
if you want to find one, you may need to find KBC Blank color PBT keycap from taobao.

[commandercup]

i don't think filco carry any other blank color key cap.
if you want to find one, you may need to find KBC Blank color PBT keycap from taobao.

I am a total noob when it comes to keyboards/keycaps, so direct links would be incredibly helpful and very much appreciated.

Also, I just placed an order from armyrgoup to get a blank black set; do any of ya'll have some real delivery time frames? I'm in Virginia, US.

[fssbzz]

I am a total noob when it comes to keyboards/keycaps, so direct links would be incredibly helpful and very much appreciated.

Also, I just placed an order from armyrgoup to get a blank black set; do any of ya'll have some real delivery time frames? I'm in Virginia, US.

armygroup is a little bit slower, it takes about a week and the half to arrive my house.