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Offline Asherz

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« on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 12:05:48 »
There was a few requests for an armygroup discussion thread, and there doesn't seem to be one around so I'll start one up.

Official site: https://www.armygroup.com.tw/

A useful site for finding out what the different cherry keys are in chinese:

http://park16.wakwak.com/~ex4/kb/tech_cherry_mx.htm

Blank keys
http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=5370

The ever elusive black Realforce 87U
http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=3607

Thermaltake Meka G1keyboards. Not sure if shipping yet.
http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=5049

Post No.4 has a great guide regarding ordering from the site, giving accurate translations of each options. It will also help to use Google Chrome as it has an automative traditional chinese translator built in.
« Last Edit: Thu, 02 December 2010, 03:01:29 by Asherz »

Offline negidaku

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 12:26:25 »
Do you have a shot of the "exquisite wrapping" shipping options when not run through a translator? Without the source text, it's often impossible to guess what a machine translator means when it decides to spit out gobbledygook.

Offline Asherz

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 13:12:00 »
very good point :)

Here's the originals:



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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 13:56:57 »
HERE. THIS MIGHT HELP YOU ALL

1. FIRST STEP. ADD YOUR ITEM INTO CART


2. CLICK THIS, TO PROCEED TO YOUR CART TO CHECK OUT


3. REVIEW YOUR CART


4. EVERYTHING EXPLAIN IN THE PIC


5. PAYMENT OPTION


6. REVIEW BEFORE MAKING PAYMENT


7. PAY FOR IT, AND WAIT FOR YOUR STUFF TO GET DELIVER.


For those who need help looking for keyboard here.

FILCO TENKEYLESS CHERRY MX BLACK [English]



FILCO TENKEYLESS CHERRY MX BROWN [English]



FILCO TENKEYLESS CHERRY MX BLUE [English]
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Offline jaynoon

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 13:59:43 »
Wow, great walkthrough fssbzz. This should be part of the wiki or something.
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Offline CodeChef

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 14:44:02 »
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Wow, great walkthrough fssbzz. This should be part of the wiki or something.


I second that.
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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:02:52 »
yyep.. wiki this...
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Offline bwisdom

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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:04:45 »
Ok so the one thing your pictures dont tell is which option is which state. Take this pic for example:



Which one of those is texas?
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:05:41 »
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Ok so the one thing your pictures dont tell is which option is which state. Take this pic for example:

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Which one of those is texas?


give me a sec. let me fix it.

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:16:17 »
How much is the shipping approx to US or Europe?
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:17:46 »
here.edited.


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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:19:37 »
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How much is the shipping approx to US or Europe?


totally depends on what you buy

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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:32:46 »
Oh that is for countries huh? I really do appreciate your help on that.

Oh and where would an apt number go in that list? I really want to make sure I dont screw this up and it gets sent to like kenya or some bs like that
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Offline JinDesu

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:36:49 »
fssbzz, thanks for the help in translating all that!
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Offline Asherz

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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:44:48 »
great guide Fssbzz, really helpful :)

I got there in the end using Google chrome and the auto translate to traditional Chinese.

Anyone have idea on shipping times? I've dealt with some foreign companies and waited months for them to ship out.

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 15:46:31 »
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great guide Fssbzz, really helpful :)

I got there in the end using Google chrome and the auto translate to traditional Chinese.

Anyone have idea on shipping times? I've dealt with some foreign companies and waited months for them to ship out.


they are pretty fast.
they use EMS
it is equal to USPS International Express Mail.
The fastest int service available in USPS.
4~5days to deliver once it shipped.

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:02:13 »
Quote from: fssbzz;255125
they are pretty fast.
they use EMS
it is equal to USPS International Express Mail.
The fastest int service available in USPS.
4~5days to deliver once it shipped.


Ok great, I'm having a little problem with the order, since I got to the paypal screen, which then sent me to a separate paypal form which I logged in and confirmed payment with, I wasn't then sent onto any like "thankyou for paying" screen on the site, do they just update the order after they have manual checked the payment has gone through?

I'm getting this 未確認,未付款,未出貨 under the 訂單狀態 of the order section, does it take a while to confirm they have got payment?

Cheers.


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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:06:43 »
Quote from: Asherz;255136


I'm getting this 未確認,未付款,未出貨 under the 訂單狀態 of the order section, does it take a while to confirm they have got payment?

Cheers.


did you pay it with credit card?
or instant bank transfer?
did you get any email from paypal that u sent money to armygroup?
if u got that email, u should be fine.
they are waiting for the payment the go tru, once it go tru, they will update the status under 訂單狀態

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:10:33 »
lol, i guess soon, ArmyGroup will out of stock for the tenkeyless...like PChome lol

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:40:42 »
Take that OOS elitekeyboards!


Fssbzz you are my hero.

Anyone order one yet, know how much was the total shipped to the states? (tenkeyless filco)
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 16:43:42 »
Damn and I was gonna do a video on how to order from pchome and armygroup..guess it aint needed anymore.

Nice guide fssbzz, the new comers would appreciate it.
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Offline Asherz

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 17:20:14 »
Quote from: elbowglue;255165
Take that OOS elitekeyboards!

Fssbzz you are my hero.

Anyone order one yet, know how much was the total shipped to the states? (tenkeyless filco)

It came to a total of $4,625 TWD for a tenkeyless filco MX blue shipped too the UK if that's any help :)

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 18:06:00 »
Quote from: kalrykh;255199
Thanks Fssbzz.  

It took them about 5 days before my order was even shipped.  If you have questions about your order, there's a button inside account management to send them questions.  You can send them questions in english, and they'll respond in english.  It's a little broken, but it's understandable.  

Another note:  if you mouse over their icons/links in the account management page and look at the link that appears in the bottom left corner of google chrome, all of the links are actually in english, so it helps you confirm that you're clicking on the right thing.


About the steps they take while processing the order.  

They will confirm the order first.  Make sure you've confirmed your e-mail address after creating the account by clicking the link in the e-mail they send. Chrome doesn't appear to translate e-mails inside of gmail, but you can paste it into translate.google.com to know which link to click.  

After the order has been confirmed, they will check stock and verify that the order has been paid for.  This took 3 days for me.  Even though paypal showed that the payment was transferred as soon as I made the order, the information in account management did not update until 3 days later.  Until that time, the account management window will show that you still owe them money and provide you with a link to paypal to pay it.  Don't make a mistake and pay them twice.  

After confirming that I had paid via paypal, it took another two days to ship it.   I also ordered on a Thursday night.  It may have taken longer due to the weekend.


You just literally answered every single question I had! If there was a rep system I would rep you! :)

Hopefully the payment will clear and they'll get it shipped out in 4 days since your was over the weekend, then another weeks wait and hopefully it should arrive, literally can't wait :P First time I haven't had second thoughts about blowing 100 on a computer peripheral/ any PC part really, hopefully it's as nice to type on as the hype makes out to be :)

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 18:13:54 »
Quote from: kalrykh;255210
Glad I could help.  If I remember, I'll add more once the package arrives, such as condition of the product, whether the packaging was adequate, etc.  I only ordered some blank keycaps for my filco tenkeyless, so I doubt there's much to mess up, but we'll see.


I did look for a blank ten keyless board on there but couldn't find one so just went for the UK version, how much were the blank keycaps seperatly?

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 21:50:58 »
fssbzz, you may want to add links to keys and such, since people have interest in ordering Blank keycaps and such.

I'm looking at the blank keycap set for the Filco, but think I am going to wait to see what happens with the double shot order and what not.
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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 22:34:13 »
Does armygroup sell numpads?

I want a cherry blue numpad
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 23:07:54 »
Quote from: Nadger;255339
Does armygroup sell numpads?

I want a cherry blue numpad


Only one they have is brown:

http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=1670
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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 23:10:12 »
Quote from: Azuremen;255329
fssbzz, you may want to add links to keys and such, since people have interest in ordering Blank keycaps and such.

I'm looking at the blank keycap set for the Filco, but think I am going to wait to see what happens with the double shot order and what not.


I got that blank set and they are as advertized. Cheapest set around too, even after shipping to Canada. They also marked it as a gift so I could skip on the customs charges (EKB does no such thing even when asked and I ended up paying $20 extra in taxes because they didn't want to check off a box).
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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 01 December 2010, 23:43:54 »
Quote from: johnnysasaki;255342
Only one they have is brown:

http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods.php?id=1670


Ah same one elitekeyboards still has in stock.  I looked around on pchome and didnt see any but i really dont know the characters for numpad or whatever they may call it there.
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 01:36:27 »
BTW, they added the extra set of yellow WASD keys and red ESC key because I've been talking to one of the people in charge over there. I did it for you guys! I know shipping is a lot but if someone is placing an order already they can order a bunch for ~$3.30 a set.

Edit: Oh, and it comes with a Filco key puller as well.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 01:54:21 »
Can anyone translate this error mesage I get when trying to enter the shipping address?
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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 01:56:18 »
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Can anyone translate this error mesage I get when trying to enter the shipping address?
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This is what I think, not 100%
Google translate "telephone format wrong" to 電話格式錯誤 (I dont understand the first 2 characters)
In asia, we dont have dash or space in our telephone numbers.
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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:14:25 »
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This is what I think, not 100%
Google translate "telephone format wrong" to 電話格式錯誤 (I dont understand the first 2 characters)
In asia, we dont have dash or space in our telephone numbers.


I tried entering the damn number in several different formats including without any spaces.
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:17:08 »
Very good review fssbzz.

Now i can use that for future keyboard purchases :}
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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:38:37 »
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Can anyone translate this error mesage I get when trying to enter the shipping address?
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I think that is used to enter the phone number, try enter your phone number, not enter shipping address

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:42:13 »
You must've entered the wrong field? It says mobile/cell phone format incorrect...

Quote from: db_Iodine;255411
Can anyone translate this error mesage I get when trying to enter the shipping address?

Offline Asherz

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:48:47 »
I really should probably try and add the blank key caps to my order that I placed last night, since I'd hope they'd include the expensive shipping under one price with the keyboard.

Would probably just be too much hassle, I'll settle for the printed keys.


Quote from: db_Iodine;255424
I tried entering the damn number in several different formats including without any spaces.



Make sure your number is in either a 6 or 11 digit format for either a home phone or mobile, you may have to also include your area code/ country code at the beginning of a home number

eg. 0000 123456 - home
or. 01234567891 - mobile
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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:56:35 »
Thanks for the instructions!

Does anyone know if it's possible to pay using a visa credit card, and if so, could you explain how?

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 04:53:06 »
Quote from: Asherz;255437
I really should probably try and add the blank key caps to my order that I placed last night, since I'd hope they'd include the expensive shipping under one price with the keyboard.

Would probably just be too much hassle, I'll settle for the printed keys.





Make sure your number is in either a 6 or 11 digit format for either a home phone or mobile, you may have to also include your area code/ country code at the beginning of a home number

eg. 0000 123456 - home
or. 01234567891 - mobile


My number is 13 digits long including the area code and 10 digits without it. And that's for mobile since it's the only phone I have.
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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 06:19:46 »
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My number is 13 digits long including the area code and 10 digits without it. And that's for mobile since it's the only phone I have.


I'm honestly not sure, I tried googling it and the only thing I could come across was adding a "1" for US to make it 11 digits, so maybe it's something similar for Finland.

If your still having trouble it might be worth just putting in a made a number, I'm not sure what they use it for though as they say they delete it after the order.

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 07:11:44 »
Quote from: Asherz;255481
I'm honestly not sure, I tried googling it and the only thing I could come across was adding a "1" for US to make it 11 digits, so maybe it's something similar for Finland.

If your still having trouble it might be worth just putting in a made a number, I'm not sure what they use it for though as they say they delete it after the order.


I'll think about it. You're probably right about them not using the phone number for anything, so I might as well get an order with a fake number.
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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 07:52:09 »
EDIT: Well Id like to thank yall for not calling me an idiot. Im going to chalk that up to seeing too many Chinese symbols in too short a time period lol
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 02 December 2010, 22:28:59 »
Quote from: db_Iodine;255496
I'll think about it. You're probably right about them not using the phone number for anything, so I might as well get an order with a fake number.


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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 00:15:58 »
Quote from: F2a;255405
BTW, they added the extra set of yellow WASD keys and red ESC key because I've been talking to one of the people in charge over there. I did it for you guys! I know shipping is a lot but if someone is placing an order already they can order a bunch for ~$3.30 a set.

Edit: Oh, and it comes with a Filco key puller as well.
Can you talk to them about what kind of discount we could get on bulk orders?

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 07:07:04 »
Now have confirmed payment under my account, current delivery status is "stocking in the" hopefully that doesn't mean waiting for stock, original: 備貨中

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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 07:08:32 »
Quote from: WhiteRice;256154
Can you talk to them about what kind of discount we could get on bulk orders?


If need bulk orders, I think would need a leader to deal with this matter.

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 07:09:21 »
Quote from: Asherz;256219
Now have confirmed payment under my account, current delivery status is "stocking in the" hopefully that doesn't mean waiting for stock, original: 備貨中


Naw that must mean getting the item from stocking..it takes a few days for some reason. They'll ship it out eventually.
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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 08:06:03 »
Quote from: Nicole_WWE;256222
If need bulk orders, I think would need a leader to deal with this matter.
I have no problem organizing an order. I was just hoping F2a would be kind enough to inquire since he already has an established relationship.

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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 03 December 2010, 09:17:59 »
Quote from: WhiteRice;256154
Can you talk to them about what kind of discount we could get on bulk orders?


Quote from: WhiteRice;256241
I have no problem organizing an order. I was just hoping F2a would be kind enough to inquire since he already has an established relationship.


yep~ i know(^^)