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Offline elbowglue

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« on: Mon, 27 June 2011, 23:23:45 »
http://cgi.ebay.com/TypeNow-Solid-Full-Metal-body-mechanical-keyboard-/270763548905?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f0ac3e0e9#ht_13444wt_1139

Aluminum case $400 shipped (one day shipping).  Zero feedback seller.  

Something nice to blow your extra money on :)

Here's a thread on the keyboard:
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:16173
« Last Edit: Mon, 27 June 2011, 23:26:25 by elbowglue »
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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 27 June 2011, 23:53:16 »
$350+$50 shipping = $400+free shipping. It's still $400. Tell me when it's $200 or less.
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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 00:01:34 »
I believe the seller is the man himself.. the one who made this keyboard more or less. As a seller you all have to start somewhere. I think it's legit. But I don't see it selling like hot cakes any time soon either.

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 01:51:26 »
Going thru the thread, IOMANIA posted this keyboard on ebay before for $400 + $50 shipping.  Link to old auction here: http://cgi.ebay.com/TypeNow-Solid-Full-Metal-body-mechanical-keyboard-/270733120143?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f08f3928f&clk_rvr_id=244268561177

It didn't sell last time, that's why the seller still has 0 feedback.

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 04:36:55 »
No thanks.

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 07:03:00 »
Hamblet posted internal pics before. It's literally a Leopold with an aluminum case. Don't waste your money.

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:12:46 »
Quote from: elbowglue;369259
http://cgi.ebay.com/TypeNow-Solid-Full-Metal-body-mechanical-keyboard-/270763548905?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3f0ac3e0e9#ht_13444wt_1139

Aluminum case $400 shipped (one day shipping).  Zero feedback seller.  

Something nice to blow your extra money on :)

Here's a thread on the keyboard:
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:16173

 
Mine is even more solid, looks much better and costed far less:

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:15:11 »
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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:19:49 »
what turns me off is the lasered keycaps, hey its a 400$ keyboard...

what turns me on is the orange back color
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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:21:30 »
amazing keyboard 7bit
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:25:14 »
It has a nice CNC carved case with Leopold internals made by Datacomp.
Just the case by itself easily worth the price. And yes I have experience with CNC.
I don't see what's the problem here.
I think buying this directly from Iomania would be even cheaper, like 350 bucks or something.
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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:36:10 »
after going through the ebay description and pics, this board is awesome. Colored keycaps looks good on it too. lasered is not that bad :)
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 10:16:11 »
waste of money compared to the custom korean keyboards (356 series, The Cheat) which are unobtainable.  Case style is too big and ugly and not really a fan of the orange plate.  I still think we could produce something like an aluminum case(If someone on GH knows CNC) after looking at alot of pics on OTD yesterday of "The Cheat",  its a 3 piece aluminum body which has to cut on production costs .  It has a Flat bottom piece that is really just a plate a middle band type piece and then the top cover,  I think this is a much easier way to do it then producing a 2 piece version.

Rigs didnt you say you were taking a CNC class?
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 11:48:08 »
Is a "tenkyelss" board worth $350? The machining might be as sloppy as the spelling.
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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 13:28:02 »
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lasered is not that bad :)

There's lasered and then there's lasered.

My Tactile Pro 3 is lasered and shows basically no legend fade after a year of heavy daily use.  My RK-9000 on the other hand is also lasered but the legends started looking dirty after just three months of light use.

For $400 I shouldn't have to gamble.
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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 16:46:42 »
Does anyone know how TypeNow.Solid has been selling in Korea?

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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:30:50 »
what kind of advantages does aluminium have over plastic anyway? Its cold and stuff.

I know that macbooks use alu, however the highend notebooks use carbon aka plastic. Also aluminium is about as hazardous as plastics are.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:39:21 »
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what kind of advantages does aluminium have over plastic anyway? Its cold and stuff.

I know that macbooks use alu, however the highend notebooks use carbon aka plastic. Also aluminium is about as hazardous as plastics are.
Carbon as in carbon fiber? Those must be expensive laptops since I know it can cost a ton to make carbon fiber.

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 20:09:07 »
They use carbon fiber reinforced plastic, and no it's not that expensive there are tons of things that use it.  Since there is no weaving or any complicated machine work involved it's cheap.
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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 04:56:36 »
Right, the thing thats so expensive are the weaved fibres they use for FORMULA1 racing cars for example.

Carbon isn't THAT expensive, but still better than cheap aluminium. And aluminium IS cheap, believe me. Its the cheapest and most used metal. You could also make a keyboard out of coke cans.

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 10:03:47 »
I guess it is the labor, time, and the up front design and tooling cost that make carbon fiber and milled aluminum expensive to produce.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 10:15:57 »
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They use carbon fiber reinforced plastic, and no it's not that expensive there are tons of things that use it.  Since there is no weaving or any complicated machine work involved it's cheap.

Cheap?  Not exactly.  There is some work involved as the tend to use a sheet of fibers then it needs to be combined with resin and properly molded to right shape, usually with some vacuum machinery.  If that's not done properly you lose the beneficial strength characteristics, and if it's for something you're going to be looking at, there's few things worse to see than shoddy CFRP work.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 10:52:42 »
No redpill, we're talking about carbon re-inforced plastics, not carbon-fiber sheets or formed sheets.  carbon re-inforced plastic is just plastic with carbon fibers mixed in that can then be injection molded just like any normal plastic.  Compared to woven carbon fiber sheet it's dirt cheap.
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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 12:10:56 »
Hmm, well I've seen that term applied to a process very different than what you describe:
[video=youtube;qZrOxQ1V6bQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZrOxQ1V6bQ[/video]

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 12:15:18 »
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No redpill, we're talking about carbon re-inforced plastics, not carbon-fiber sheets or formed sheets.  carbon re-inforced plastic is just plastic with carbon fibers mixed in that can then be injection molded just like any normal plastic.  Compared to woven carbon fiber sheet it's dirt cheap.

I dont get what the point of that would be, at the end of the day its still gonna look like plastic and feel like plastic.  The whole purpose of one of these kind of keyboards is that its Aluminum(looks really nice, checkout the 356 and Cheats on OTD) and that its even heavier then the mass made Mechanicals.  Some of the Korean customs even have spots where you can put an extra brass or steel plate inside or under the keyboard to icnrease the weight furthur.
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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 12:38:29 »
Aluminium on my MacBook pro get's dirty really fast and is hard to clean. I think certain plastics are better for cases that get touched a lot.
That's why I think the Filco is superior to the Korean custom keyboards in terms of case quality(and looks, in my opinion). I'd still like one for the layout though.
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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 13:19:00 »
The process is not about what it looks like, it's about strength.  carbon reinforced plastic is stronger than plain plastic at a minimal cost increase.  It involves stirring loose carbon fibers into the plastic resin.

carbon fiber reinforced plastic (which is what the former should be called) from redpills video is more accurately called carbon fiber cloth reinforced plastic.  Looks cool and is waaaay stronger than carbon reinforced plastic.
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 13:38:13 »
carbon fibres absorb shock and so on.. even carbon reinforced plastic does. golf bats are made from that kind of stuff too I think.

and I don't know about aluminium being labor-intensive lol, u think every macbook is carved by an expert craftsman ? i dontk

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 13:47:00 »
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Aluminium on my MacBook pro get's dirty really fast and is hard to clean. I think certain plastics are better for cases that get touched a lot.
That's why I think the Filco is superior to the Korean custom keyboards in terms of case quality(and looks, in my opinion). I'd still like one for the layout though.

Really?  You think the Filco case is better then the aluminum/metal cased 356/Cheat cases?
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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 14:05:13 »
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Really?  You think the Filco case is better then the aluminum/metal cased 356/Cheat cases?

I don't have one to compare, so I can only guess. But I can compare the case of my MacBook, and I wouldn't want a keyboard like that, except for the layout.
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 17:18:09 »
Aluminium case on the 356/Cheat is FAR superior to any other keyboard case including the Filco. That's a fact.

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 20:29:39 »
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Aluminium case on the 356/Cheat is FAR superior to any other keyboard case including the Filco. That's a fact.

No, it's a guess. Like mine.
I argue that the aluminium on my MacBook is not that good. What is your source?
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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 20:45:48 »
Somebody just buy it already and do a review!

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 21:56:45 »
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No, it's a guess. Like mine.
I argue that the aluminium on my MacBook is not that good. What is your source?

Actually its not, the biggest keyboard enthusiasts on the planet all value the custom aluminum cases on the 356/cheat way above any plastic mass produced cases.  Just because apple uses some kind of ****ty aluminum that is hard to clean does not mean that it is the same style as used on these keyboards.  Arguing this is beyond ridiculous.  There is no better source for keyboard information then OTD and some of the other korean sites.
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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 22:33:00 »
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Actually its not, the biggest keyboard enthusiasts on the planet all value the custom aluminum cases on the 356/cheat way above any plastic mass produced cases.  Just because apple uses some kind of ****ty aluminum that is hard to clean does not mean that it is the same style as used on these keyboards.  Arguing this is beyond ridiculous.  There is no better source for keyboard information then OTD and some of the other korean sites.

 
Of course they value their extremely limited custom runs which are almost impossible to obtain. Why would they make them otherwise.
I don't think that arguing this is ridiculous at all, because no one has that damn thing(except sixty I think) and everyone seems to praise it like the best thing since toasted bread.
Still I'd like one, but not for the aluminium body. I'm only interested in the layout.

I'm not sure about them being the best source of keyboard information. After all we got the #1 Keyboard Expert In The World right here (yes ripster, you may add this one to your list of references) ;)
All I see "over there" is fancy pics of stuff we can't get, anything other is irrelevant because I don't read Korean. So why would we care about the information we can't use?
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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 22:43:37 »
obviously its irrelevant because YOU cant read Korean.  You seem to confuse "me" with "we" alot.

I dont see anyone else here backing up your ridiculous argument that a plastic case is superior to a custom made aluminum case and that anyone else would only be interested for the layout.
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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 22:56:42 »
I did generalize a lot and I think it is a correct assumption that the vast majority in here does not read Korean, but if you do - godspeed man.
Majority is not equal to correctness, so I don't need anyone backing me up because it is my opinion. That's what I tried to say. You can't pass this off as a fact because it's only your guess against mine.
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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 23:03:11 »
Now your just trying to argue semantics.  

It may be your opinion but its definatley not everyones opinion or even the majority opinion.  But yes it is a fact a custom made aluminum CNC carved case IS better then a plastic mass produced case,  dont get me wrong I still think the filco's leopolds and topres all have fantastic cases they just arent on the level as the custom aluminum cases.
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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 23:16:15 »
And now we can argue on which level each of them are. But first we would have to define the levels!
I don't see us come to an agreement on how far apart each level is from another so I'll just drop out here :)

I still don't think that it's a good idea to use aluminium for cases that get touched a lot, however cool they may look. From a practical point it's not something for me.
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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 23:29:57 »
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Somebody just buy it already and do a review!

I was considering buying one, but then I realized it is a Leopold inside, and now I am not sure if a $400 modern keyboard should have a Leopold board.

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 00:12:45 »
They value the aluminium keyboards only because they are limited. That is because they are collectors in the first place.

Why would aluminium be superior to plastics, seriously? Look at german cars, do they use a lot of aluminium? I don't think so. Maybe for the chassis, but not for the parts that are touched, for example the stirring wheel. Stirring wheels are always plastic. Even the ones that look like wooden wheels are plastic. The whole interior is either plastics, leather or artificial leather.

Its like with the red switches, when they were unobtainable, everyone was like OMG CHERRY RED SWITCHES, now they are (almost) publicly available and people don't like them too much.

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 00:27:03 »
I'm incredibly tempted to buy this...

EDIT: Gonna cave. Should I get it in blue or brown :3
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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 00:55:23 »
I love red, but if it is betweeen blue and brown, I'd say brown.  And be sure to do a detail review and post lots of pictures.

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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 01:14:45 »
Purchased ^^

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 01:24:29 »
MrCynical, you are a brave man, sire!  Keep us posted.

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« Reply #45 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 08:27:05 »
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Purchased ^^

You're AWESOME. Please do a review!

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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 08:43:42 »
That's the spirit! :)
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 08:49:14 »
I have an aluminum envy problem now.  which switch type did you order?

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 12:21:10 »
Brown. I've already got two perfectly good blues and I only have one brown.

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 30 June 2011, 12:38:12 »
^ Please let us know how it is.  Me jelly. lol =D
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