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Offline fl0w3n

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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #400 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 18:54:10 »
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before. 
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #401 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 20:56:42 »
Quote from: fl0w3n on Fri, 04 January 2013, 18:54:10
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before.
Depends on what color you want. If you're a little wild, then Klaxon is a good way to go. Get a Base, mods, tsangan, and ISO kit. Maybe a bit pricey, but you can't go wrong with doubleshots.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #402 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 20:59:28 »
Invoices are currently going out for this, yes?
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Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #403 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:30:33 »
Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:50:17
I am seriously consider taking a dremel to my litster case...
yea thats whay i didnt buy one when they came out
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #404 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:35:36 »
I didn't get an invoice?
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #405 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:37:11 »
Quote from: KuhnTang on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:35:36
I didn't get an invoice?
He said tonight or tomorrow morning. he might just not have sent them out yet.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #406 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:38:19 »
Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:30:33
Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:50:17
I am seriously consider taking a dremel to my litster case...
yea thats whay i didnt buy one when they came out
I bought one and I AM going to Dremel it. I buck the trends and cut them up.
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« Reply #407 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:44:55 »
I'm seriously here begging you not to cut it. I will give you cash for it right now,  or I'll buy the Phantom with it complete. I'll trade you this clear MKC acrylic case that you can cut up, even. Not joking.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #408 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 22:57:51 »
I wish I could buy that MKC case... :C
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #409 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:01:03 »
Can I say I'm not a fan on the Lister case, I don't like acrylic that much (seems easy to scratch) and I don't like how the bolts aren't counterbored (which I doubt you could do with an acrylic that thin)
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #410 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:07:26 »
Quote from: The_Beast on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:01:03
Can I say I'm not a fan on the Lister case, I don't like acrylic that much (seems easy to scratch) and I don't like how the bolds aren't counterbored (which I doubt you could do with a acrylic that thin)
HERESY!? I don't see why you can't not like something others don't. Fine by me.

I'm sorry, jdcarpe, but I gotta do what I gotta do...
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #411 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:35:42 »
Well, the offer is on the table. You let me know when you're ready. :D
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #412 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:56:31 »
Please at least make a laser out of a dvd birner and use that to cut it.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #413 on: Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:59:17 »
149 PCBs?  Amazing!
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #414 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:35 »
Quote from: esoomenona on Fri, 04 January 2013, 23:07:26
I'm sorry, jdcarpe, but I gotta do what I gotta do...

I actually really want to see pictures of this when its done.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #415 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45 »
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?



SS litster case anyone?
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #416 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:07:35 »
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.
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Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #417 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:08:53 »
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?



SS litster case anyone?
dude im in
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #418 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:10:14 »
Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:07:35
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #419 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:13:21 »
I hope litster might here our cries of case love...
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #420 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:02:24 »
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:10:14
Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:07:35
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done

Does this mean you're doing a case Beast? 
Im also not a fan of acrylic, but because it attracts dust.  I'm sure you would have plenty of eager customers.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #421 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:08:48 »
Quote from: KuhnTang on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:02:24
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:10:14
Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:07:35
If you could make an aluminum top layer that I could anodize black, that would be amazing.

I'm sure that could be done

Does this mean you're doing a case Beast? 
Im also not a fan of acrylic, but because it attracts dust.  I'm sure you would have plenty of eager customers.

I don't have the files to cut it. I'm working on a Gh60 case, but not a phantom case
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #422 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:11:31 »
Is it really that difficult to design a case, or is it the production of it, or what? With the talent I've seen here its surprising to me that no ones designed an aluminum or ss one.

I admit I know little about the process, and maybe if I did known more I'd consider venturing out and attempting to design one?

Any suggestions where to start? Is the difficulty getting the files transferred from AutoCAD or whatever design program, into CNC machine code?
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #423 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:12:41 »
People are designing cases. The problem is so many people want so many things. It gets hard to even consider what to start with and to get enough people to want to stick with one thing
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #424 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:14:38 »
Oh I see. I'm a fairly simple guy, and all I'd want personally is a standard filco case in aluminum or ss lol but 285+ for mkc one is way out of my budget
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« Reply #425 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:16:11 »
That's another problem. People don't want to pay for what they want.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #426 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:16:19 »
Quote from: inteli722 on Fri, 04 January 2013, 20:56:42
Quote from: fl0w3n on Fri, 04 January 2013, 18:54:10
My only question is where am I going to get a nice ISO set.  I'm trying ISO 150 as one of my layouts since I've never had ISO before.
Depends on what color you want. If you're a little wild, then Klaxon is a good way to go. Get a Base, mods, tsangan, and ISO kit. Maybe a bit pricey, but you can't go wrong with doubleshots.

Wouldn't consider my key cap preference wild. I like "vintage" style, WYSE, Cherry beige, coffee, etc.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #427 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:20:11 »
Quote from: esoomenona on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:16:11
That's another problem. People don't want to pay for what they want.

Is the cost really that much though, or is it more of the first of what you mentioned... And there's only a handful of them being run so the machinest is charging an arm and a leg? The reason being, as you said, everyone wants something different?

I also figured importing it added some to cost, and with how reluctant people are to release designs, they gotta be making a buck off it?

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Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #428 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:22:50 »
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.
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« Reply #429 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:30:55 »
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.
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« Reply #430 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:40:53 »
I'm sorry. I never personally meant to pressure him at all, and if anything I said seemed like that, I apologize. It was just a question of curiosity.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #431 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:51:40 »
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:30:55
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.
Out of curiosity, how much does it cost doing methods like having a top and bottom aluminum (or SS) piece with acrylic in the center? Is the cost mostly in milling time/quantity or material I guess is what I'm asking.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #432 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 07:18:29 »
Even if you got the files from litster, you would still have to modify them in order to make them from Alu or SS.
Because the case is originally made out of non-conductive Acrylic there are no PCB-standoffs or similar in the design as far as I know.

But I'd be definitely interested in a metal case, if somebody would do one.

I would try to design one myself, but I got no CAD software that I know how to use and also I don't have any good case as inspiration (or a Filco case for exact measurements for the standoffs).

But I have a local shop that can do CNC and lasercutting which I know the owner of, so if anyone maybe has a design ready, but no place to get them made... ;)
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #433 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 07:58:00 »
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:30:55
lol you guys shouldn't pressure litster to hand over his file of the case. He's seen this thread, and if he wanted to share them, he will. If not, then just understand that these take a long time to design and cost money to prototype, as well as all the other little things that come with making a product a reality from blueprints.

Everyone wants a nice case for a custom project like this, but I'm betting most won't be willing to pay for it. Just be realistic with prices. It'll cost you anywhere from $200 - $350 for a metal CNC case. The Vortex aluminum case was dirt cheap for $150, and it was clear the quality reflected this. The cost of the actual material is not much, but the time required to program the CNC machine and cutting time on the machine is very expensive. Stainless steel would be very nice, but even less practical for your wallet.

I'm willing to pay for it. It's a matter of if my family's willing to let me pay that much for an aluminum case. I calculated my price based on between 200 and 300, so I'm good.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #434 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 08:47:12 »
What about 3d printing cases?
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #435 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 09:01:01 »
Quote from: metafour on Sat, 05 January 2013, 08:47:12
What about 3d printing cases?
That might work, though I would be concerned about the structural integrity of it and the strength of the material. If the material type can't handle being the lower receiver of an AR-15, then I'm not sure I really want a keyboard made out of it.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #436 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:02:32 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:22:50
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
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Re: Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #437 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 12:29:25 »
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:02:32
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:22:50
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
Yeah, I understand too. I asked a while back of he would, but to no avail. Oh well:)
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #438 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:04:38 »
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?
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« Reply #439 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:14:04 »
Quote from: Soulpyre on Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:04:38
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?

I have yet to receive an invoice. Just wait a few days, usually it takes a week to get things sorted before distribution.
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #440 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:14:51 »
Quote from: Soulpyre on Sat, 05 January 2013, 14:04:38
Does anyone know if the invoices have started going out?

Nope, not yet, I'm going to start send them out very soon (today). Just working out some shipping stuff.

Here is my final shipping costs:
US      
1      $8
2      $10
3      $10
4      $10
5      $12
6      $12

Int      
1      $13
2      $15
3      $17
4      $20
5      $22
6      $24

I'm just going to keep shipping straight across to board for convince.

Also if your order is going to TP or WFD, you will be charged a smaller shipping fee. The shipping fee will be calculated by getting the cost it will take for TP/WFD's orders (~15 boards) and distributing it evenly amongst all the people shipping to them. Will be about $3/board
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #441 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 17:49:13 »
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 12:29:25
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:02:32
Quote from: SmallFry on Sat, 05 January 2013, 01:22:50
Quote from: The_Beast on Sat, 05 January 2013, 00:00:45
I wonder if litster would give me the case files?
I asked... he said no.

I was just asking, no pressure to release his files at all. Designing a case isn't as simple as you would think, he as a lot of time invested in it so he may want to make money on it, or keep others from making money on it. I understand ^___^
Yeah, I understand too. I asked a while back of he would, but to no avail. Oh well:)

That's why I was informal and just asked in here. If I was pressuring, I would have sent an angry PM (full of mad kittenz)
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #442 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 17:50:36 »
I've had better luck with angry Gerbils, thought be had... ;)
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« Reply #443 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 19:07:08 »
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #444 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 20:39:32 »
Quote from: __red__ on Sat, 05 January 2013, 19:07:08
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx
Man. Glad I got my order in. It's gonna be a happy year!
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #445 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:43:06 »
Quote from: __red__ on Sat, 05 January 2013, 19:07:08
How did I miss this group buy !

If anyone wants out or there are spares, someone please hook me up ;)

Thx

I did order a spare.  If I don't botch my first one, I'll try to remember you. :)
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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #446 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:43:49 »
So, I haven't been following this at all really, is there going to be a new set of plates made?

EDIT: found

Now I just need a case...
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Offline metafour

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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #447 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:46:25 »
Quote from: metalliqaz on Sat, 05 January 2013, 22:43:49
So, I haven't been following this at all really, is there going to be a new set of plates made?

There essentially has to be in order for these orders to complete their builds. There are no holes on the PCB to accommodate stabilizers if I read the information correctly earlier.
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Offline Glod

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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #448 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 23:16:25 »
paid  :) I am freaking excited!
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Offline reverkiller

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Re: [Orders Closed] Phantom PCB R2
« Reply #449 on: Sat, 05 January 2013, 23:28:33 »
invoiced n paid!
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