Razer Orbweaver (Mechanical Gaming Keypad)

[roads]

Please someone help me open the side part with the thumb-stick without breaking it, I cant find the trick. I need to mod an analogue Joystick in there.

[vun]

Please someone help me open the side part with the thumb-stick without breaking it, I cant find the trick. I need to mod an analogue Joystick in there.

I think that's going to be hard without breaking something. First you'll need to disassemble the main part of the orbweaver so that you can disconnect the cable for the thumb pad, working with the cable attached would be a pain.

CPTBadAss' thread has good explanations and pictures for the main part
For the thumb bit you'll have to unscrew every visible screw, then pry off the rubber pad underneat to reveal more screws.
The bottom part is snap-fit, so after you've gotten all the screws out you'll want to carefully pry it off with a small-ish flathead screwdriver or something.

That's about as far as I got in my disassembly, if you want to open it more then I would suggest that you just carefully try to pry it open here and there, and make sure to keep an eye out for screws.
But as I said, I think that's going to be difficult without something breaking.

[CPTBadAss]

Yeah I left that part together, I didn't even try to open it up. Might be another snap fit though, I didn't really check it.

[roads]

Do you guys think there is something under the metal sticker? I did remove all visible screws and it wont pop off. It really feels if another hidden screw holds it in place.
I dont thinks its possible to remove the metal sticky around the stick without damaging it.
I need to get in there dammit.

[vun]

Do you guys think there is something under the metal sticker? I did remove all visible screws and it wont pop off. It really feels if another hidden screw holds it in place.
I dont thinks its possible to remove the metal sticky around the stick without damaging it.
I need to get in there dammit.

What metal sticker? You mean the metal plate at the bottom of the thumb bit? There are some screws under the rubber pad that you need to get to if you want it to come off.

[CPTBadAss]

There's probably screws here now that I look at the pictures.

[vun]

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There's probably screws here now that I look at the pictures.

Yeap. the metal bit continues under the rubber pad where there are 3 more screws holding the metal bit, then there should be one or two more under that again.

Edit:
BE CAREFUL, the metal bit is what's holding the sliding bit in place, so once the metal bit comes loose the slidy thing just pops off, and you don't really want to lose the small-ish spring inside.

[CPTBadAss]

With our powers combined vun, we can open this Orbweaver!

* CPTBadAss high fives vun

[vun]

With our powers combined vun, we can open this Orbweaver!

* CPTBadAss high fives vun

Hi5!

Although I didn't get around to doing much with mine; it took me ages to desolder a single switch no matter how much leaded solder I added, so I gave up and figured I'd leave it for some other time.

I did keep the ball-bearing though, but I wasn't sure how to properly place it when re-assembling it, so now it's stuck in the middle screw hole shown in your pic, preventing the screw from going in. I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to be.

[CPTBadAss]

Pretty sure its supposed to ride in the groove in the metal arm. But I can't test that since I lost mine T_T

[roads]

I want to put an analogue Joystick beside the digital thumbpad one. The rubber removed there are some screws, the metal you mean comes off. The rest is a plastic hull that wont open. The metal sticker I mean is on top around the thumb stick. A friend from Finland can make it work with a teensy on PC and over XIM to Xbox/PS.
On monday I could do an X-ray of the thumb piece maybe at least to see if there are still screws in there.

[vun]

Yeah I did put it in the groove, but it seems that it's very specific about where in the groove it needs to be. TBH you're probably better off without it, trying to properly seat it is a nightmare.

[vun]

I want to put an analogue Joystick beside the digital thumbpad one. The rubber removed there are some screws, the metal you mean comes off. The rest is a plastic hull that wont open. The metal sticker I mean is on top around the thumb stick. A friend from Finland can make it work with a teensy on PC and over XIM to Xbox/PS.
On monday I could do an X-ray of the thumb piece maybe at least to see if there are still screws in there.

Do post pics, that'll make it easier to see. There should be some screws in the plastic, the plastic is also snap-fit that you'll need a flathead screwdriver to pry off.

Edit: Or maybe the snap-fit plastic is covering the screws and you need to pry that off first. I can't remember, this is why you should post pics :/

[roads]

I will I get the Orb again tomoorow. I gave up and sent it back some months ago. So this is second try.

[roads]

That’s where the stick will go to, I believe it could fit. That’s also the metal sticker I mean. I will try to get it of with ethanol.

[CPTBadAss]

Try and pry it off. It's probably all press/snap fit from here on out and you'll have to figure out how to take it apart. Try prying along the seams.

[roads]

I did, I went between the plastic parts with a thin screwdriver, the force applied was so huge I can only imagine a screw is holding it. Normally if you pry open a part it stays this one snapped back. Must be a screw, but where?

[roads]

This is btw the joystick mod for the XIm, it now works with a Teensy 3 also.

http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=7745.0

[CPTBadAss]

I did, I went between the plastic parts with a thin screwdriver, the force applied was so huge I can only imagine a screw is holding it. Normally if you pry open a part it stays this one snapped back. Must be a screw, but where?

Are you sure? I spent a day saying that when I pulled off one of the plates. It was glued on tight.

[roads]

The plastic parts of the side part are not glued together I think I can get in between at several sides with a thin screwdriver.

[CPTBadAss]

If and when you get it apart, can you take pictures? Or maybe a build log of your mod?

[roads]

Yes I will, but If I cant open it, there will be no Mod.

[CPTBadAss]

Ha you'll figure it out. I said the same thing when I started modding mine. You can try PMing melvang as well, he gave me some good pointers. When I get home I can take a look at mine again as well. Just bump this thread or PM me if you don't hear anything from me again.

[Melvang]

For the record I never got into that section of the piece.  All I had done was removed the entire thumb pod and the shell to mod the switches/leds

[roads]

Its impenetrable. Kryptonite anyone?

[Melvang]

Its impenetrable. Kryptonite anyone?

When in doubt, C4

[roads]

I just dont want to get screwed (by a a hidden one)

[roads]

no I wont open the side part, I dont know how I will just hotglue this on for the Teensy.

[roads]

Some disassembling pictures. I changed the stems to black and the springs to brown Ghetto reds. The blue are the worst keys my fingers ever touched btw, they feel cheap.
I was not able to harvest the leds I pulled them with some pliers while desoldering. The solder they used on the pcb is very bad to heat up.

[roads]

This was the best I could do, it would take 50 more shots to position the device in the Orthopantomogramm. Its layer imaging and not really suitable. It needs a conventional x-ray that I dont have. I could go to a radiologist I know but it wont happen, too embarrassing.
You can see the metal plate with the round opening of the stick. As I thought there seem to be two screws in there going downward, upward in the picture. So that metal plate must be taken out. Only idea I have is put hotglue with a wire  on top and pull. A screwdriver would damage the plastic around the plate.

[roads]

I won

[CPTBadAss]

See? I knew you'd figure it out .

[roads]

Yeah the force was strong in me LOL

[roads]

Its done you can find the code that needs to be flashed on the teensy on the XIM forum. The analog mod is awesome.

[CYBER-NINJA]

Hi All -

Got my Orb and although its great it does take some getting use too!!!  )

I plan to mod mine and am wondering which LED's I need to get to change the keys colour? Can anyone recommend some for me please???

Thanks

[CPTBadAss]

I plan to mod mine and am wondering which LED's I need to get to change the keys colour? Can anyone recommend some for me please???

Check this out

Its done you can find the code that needs to be flashed on the teensy on the XIM forum. The analog mod is awesome.

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Could you use that Teensy to reprogram the entire keyboard? Not just control that thumb button? I'd love to be able to get away from using Razer's software to reprogram keys.

[roads]

Yeah you should contact W11ce on the XIM forum for that but there is no code done for it.

[CYBER-NINJA]

@CPTBadAss - Thanks for that. Does the size of the LED's matter or will any fit???

[CPTBadAss]

Thanks for that. Does the size of the LED's matter or will any fit?

Yes the size matters, 2x3x4mm square is the size I prefer.

[CYBER-NINJA]

Yes the size matters, 2x3x4mm square is the size I prefer.

So which size is the correct size to get???

[Melvang]

Yes the size matters, 2x3x4mm square is the size I prefer.

So which size is the correct size to get???

The ones that CPTBadAss mentioned are prefered among a lot of people and can be found in many colors on ebay.  The size that I used in my orbweaver was the 3mm round

[CYBER-NINJA]

The ones that CPTBadAss mentioned are prefered among a lot of people and can be found in many colors on ebay.  The size that I used in my orbweaver was the 3mm round
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Great thanks for the clarification dude!!! 

[cinnamoncider]

I would get one of these if there's a wide of Cherry MX switches to choose from. Also, if it's also available in multi-color LEDs 

But still, I am satisfied in using mkbs.

[EpicBlob]

I was wondering if the keycaps can have o-rings put on them. I bought the regular version so noise might be an issue for me; do the modified keycaps not allow o-rings or will it be fine? Thanks!

[vun]

I was wondering if the keycaps can have o-rings put on them. I bought the regular version so noise might be an issue for me; do the modified keycaps not allow o-rings or will it be fine? Thanks!

O-rings should be fine, I don't have any to try with, but just from pulling a cap and looking at it it seems like the stem is just like any other MX stem. It's the edges of the caps that are weird.

[Ammo]

Have you seen this thing? It's not mechanical, but I think it might be a better choice than this thing.

I am on my 2nd one.  Both have now broken in the same place, the key below the trackball which I use in game as a jump key.  Perhaps I'm too hard on it but upon opening the key pad up I found that this key alone has a very bad design.  I love the key pad and now I'm in the process of replacing this key with something like a micro switch.  In my search I found this site. 

[LLNunez]

I found this on youtube. This guy completed a Razer Orbweaver LED mod in bright red. Looks pretty sweet. I’m using his tutorial. Seems simple enough. Check it out:

list=UUNVzzWmdn4p0a1oBtT5qgqQ&feature=c4-overview

[MiR4i]

I found this on youtube. This guy completed a Razer Orbweaver LED mod in bright red. Looks pretty sweet. I’m using his tutorial. Seems simple enough. Check it out:

list=UUNVzzWmdn4p0a1oBtT5qgqQ&feature=c4-overview

That looks like a cool mod, but... are you sure you just happened to stumble upon it and then stumble upon this particular thread?  You say you found it, but @13:55 you can see the computer username Omar Lopez-Nunez, which is pretty similar to your own forum username.  If it's yours, just take credit for it. >_>

[rogas]

Can anyone post a pic off the inside of the razer orbweaver thumb module plz ?

I would like to rebuild the whole thing to a RH device

Did a nostromo rebuild in the past ...


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[fedecucu]

I have a little problem with my orbweaber the key from 6 to 10 are die!!! any ideas??? (leds still work)