Razer Orbweaver (Mechanical Gaming Keypad)

[TheProfosist]

I want it for the analogue stick i much prefer it for movement.

[Hyde]

I wonder who will be the first person on geekhack to buy one of this and mod the swtiches to mx red/black/ergo clear 

Honestly blue is probably the worst choice for WASD actions lol.

[TheProfosist]

I wonder who will be the first person on geekhack to buy one of this and mod the swtiches to mx red/black/ergo clear 

Honestly blue is probably the worst choice for WASD actions lol.

i plan to i might swap the leds too not digging the green maybe orange or yellow? Will probably replace the keycaps as well maybe zinc?

[NikoGasm]

i plan to i might swap the leds too not digging the green maybe orange or yellow? Will probably replace the keycaps as well maybe zinc?

What do you plan on swapping the switches to?

Orange/Yellow LEDs with zinc caps would be ridiculously awesome. Can't wait to see you do this.

[Lanx]

as one of the few ppl that modded a n52 with cherry keys (the other guy is banned) i can tell you that it is damn comfortable. I'll go into a bit also
there's the belkin n52 and the razer up'd version called the n52te, aside from the "bling" they put on it, it also uses different programming/macro'ing software than the old belkin n52 and by a landslide opinion is worse than the old n52.

i'd modded 1 n52 with cherry keys and have 2 in storage and 1 on the wifes computer (it just sits there now that we don't play mmo's no more). The difference is amazing with the cherry keys and the non modded n52.

I also visit the ergonomics forum a lot and have modded my own boards and such, i would consider the ergonomics of the n52 to be top notch, and am in the camp that if they made a right handed version of the n52, that would be almost about the best type of split keyboard made.

i don't use my n52 for gaming at all, nope i use it for easy to program macro's for work. I'm an idiot with programming, i just am but with a nostromo i get by very well. And on the occasion when i play a FPS (i can't now i have motion sickness since i turned 30 a while ago, old age i guess) the nostromo is great.

with that said, is this awesome? well the original n52 cost 60 bucks(i bought a few used ones for 20 or so), you can still buy a n52te for 70?, so you gotta ask yourself, is 80bucks worth it for a few cherry keys? Since i only heard about the nostromo 3d mod, i would say yes it is, since no one seems to want to mod anything, and to be honest, the nostromo mod took me 2 or 3 hours? it was pretty simple, but if you want a numpad with cherry keys, this is your only option, you pay a premium.

[thp777]

i could swear ive seen a keypad like this before somewhere thats was mechanical.

oh ya mine i made

sure as hell didnt cost anywhere near $135 for mine and mine has a 6dof joystick. using the nostromo electronics on this prototype.soft rest also solves the problem of being able to move up and hit higher keys.  and im still working on 3rd version with better asthetics.

[TheQsanity]

130 bucks for a ****ing keypad? Razer is ****ing crazy!

Razer synapses is some crazy ****.

Razer is probably as bad as Apple.  Synapses=icloud but worse.

[fuus]

That price :O

[Halverson]

I want something exactly like this, why did it have to be razer making it at a steep price?
I'll probably follow in the profs steps and mod it. Vintage blacks and UV LEDs.
No zinc caps though, novelty only!

[IvanIvanovich]

It cost more than black widow... serious WTF? Also is it my imagination, or are some of the keycap some weird shapes like trapezoid? If so that is very annoying make it impossible to replace them.

[TheProfosist]

i plan to i might swap the leds too not digging the green maybe orange or yellow? Will probably replace the keycaps as well maybe zinc?

What do you plan on swapping the switches to?

Orange/Yellow LEDs with zinc caps would be ridiculously awesome. Can't wait to see you do this.

either ergo's or vintage blacks

[luckynet]

i could swear ive seen a keypad like this before somewhere thats was mechanical.

oh ya mine i made

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sure as hell didnt cost anywhere near $135 for mine and mine has a 6dof joystick. using the nostromo electronics on this prototype.soft rest also solves the problem of being able to move up and hit higher keys.  and im still working on 3rd version with better asthetics.

what is the 3d connexion for?? doesnt look like a joypad ?? nvm mind 3dmouse looks cool.. never knew someting like that existed will prolly will get one.

[rootwyrm]

**** this device. Synapse 2.0 required. "Saved in the cloud" is a complete load of bull. It's saved local - the only "cloud" part is that you CAN'T USE THE DEVICE AT ALL if you aren't online or if Razer's servers go down yet again. It is literally hardware DRM. The device is completely disabled if Synapse 2.0 can't call home every 60 seconds.

[dreamingftw]

Might consider when it gets heavily discounted.

[vun]

**** this device. Synapse 2.0 required. "Saved in the cloud" is a complete load of bull. It's saved local - the only "cloud" part is that you CAN'T USE THE DEVICE AT ALL if you aren't online or if Razer's servers go down yet again. It is literally hardware DRM. The device is completely disabled if Synapse 2.0 can't call home every 60 seconds.

What? Do you have anything to support this claim? Everything I have heard so far indicates that you only need to be online for the very first time setting it up, after that you don't need a connection.

[TheQsanity]

Never ever Razer again! Not even their hardware and software but how in ****ing hell do we let them get away with those prices!

[jfb]

Two gamepads as a keyboard? Do it yourself?

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/an-other-diy-keyboard-project-t4560.html#p91555

[NikoGasm]

That setup looks extremely uncomfortable and confusing.

[razorsharpgears]

Yeah lol, how the hell would you even use that effectively 

[CPTBadAss]

i could swear ive seen a keypad like this before somewhere thats was mechanical.

oh ya mine i made

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sure as hell didnt cost anywhere near $135 for mine and mine has a 6dof joystick. using the nostromo electronics on this prototype.soft rest also solves the problem of being able to move up and hit higher keys.  and im still working on 3rd version with better asthetics.

Holy ****, I never thought that you could use the SpacePilot like that. I use one at work but I've never seen it used in any other fashion. That's so cool

[TheSoulhunter]

Before the page was completely loaded I said to myself, "It's going to be $130"

Sure enough, when the page loaded a split second later, it was $130. WTF Razer? You can buy a Das for that money, and spend $20 extra you can get a Filco!

Das and Filco don't sell keypads..

[missalaire]

Before the page was completely loaded I said to myself, "It's going to be $130"

Sure enough, when the page loaded a split second later, it was $130. WTF Razer? You can buy a Das for that money, and spend $20 extra you can get a Filco!

Das and Filco don't sell keypads..

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I think she meant that they don't sell gaming keypads.

[TheQsanity]

That is way way too much, I guess it is the first of its kind but I would much rather buy a 20 dollar Belkin or Logitech gampad and save 100 bucks than get that. Logitech has some nice membranes.

[dohboi]

When did these release? I still haven't seen one of these at work just yet. The only other gaming keypad I saw at work is the older Razer model (not too sure of the model name). But then again, where I work isn't really oriented to specifically the latest and greatest for all things computers and its peripherals. Cloud based hardware profiles now? This is why we can't have nice things... 

I think the reason I've also shied away from getting one of these is the abysmal experience I had with something similar to this, but for a console (yes, a console. at least I know now that it was a stupid decision buying one of these thinking I would get an advantage on a console). The mouse attachment on the console's gaming keypad only mimicked the movement of the controller joystick so it wasn't actually linear to the input. It just allowed for a little bit more fine control than that of the regular console joystick. :/

[baldgye]

looks super dumb and having your hand being gripped there seems more limiting than it being comftable.... would rather just use a normal keyboard and have a custom macro program or something in the background

[TheQsanity]

It seems to be on preorder.

It is just like the old Belkin. just with mxblues.

[TheProfosist]

Wants one bu needs money first.

[Lanx]

It seems to be on preorder.

It is just like the old Belkin. just with mxblues.

it actually is a bit more ramped up than the old belkins physically imo, it has more buttons! there is an extra top row and where the old scroll wheel on the belkin used to be is another button, seems to be highly adjustable (ala rat9 mice) and the buttons have different heights (whats the term for that).

[lazerpointer]

WHY would they make this in MX Blues. WHY.

[TheProfosist]

WHY would they make this in MX Blues. WHY.

so people like me can rip then out and put vintage blacks or ergo clears in

[vun]

WHY would they make this in MX Blues. WHY.

Because of all the mechanical switches the blues are the ones that sound the part, really hammering home the "THIS IS A MECHANICAL KEYBOARD" part.
I suppose that's kind of important when you're dealing with Razer's target market.

[Halverson]

WHY would they make this in MX Blues. WHY.

so people like me can rip then out and put vintage blacks or ergo clears in

X2!

[Lanx]

they're probably using blue's cuz it's "cooler" than the other switches, and they probably have a boatload of them or exisiting deals with cherry corp cuz of the blackwidow line.

[TheQsanity]

Because they have already brainwashed their customers to think that Blues are the only switch or the best switch. Razer knows all. RazerGuy handpicks every switch himself and he only picks the best blues!

[Mountain Man]

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-orbweaver?src=pgm.81594800

If it's like most Razer products, it will develop significant faults inside of six-months and be effectively non-functional within a year.

[Mountain Man]

**** this device. Synapse 2.0 required. "Saved in the cloud" is a complete load of bull. It's saved local - the only "cloud" part is that you CAN'T USE THE DEVICE AT ALL if you aren't online or if Razer's servers go down yet again. It is literally hardware DRM. The device is completely disabled if Synapse 2.0 can't call home every 60 seconds.

Not exactly.  If it's like their other hardware, it doesn't become non-functional without Synapse, just less functional.  And, yes, that's a pretty ****ty way to do hardware.

[harrison]

[Lanx]

video said 8 way mechanical dpad... huh?

[Leslieann]

Why would they have settings saved to the cloud and not onboard? Trying to force you to install their software on every computer you might use it on?

Because.. THE CLOUD!!! You have to have THE CLOUD!!!!
Everything is in the CLOUD!

Marketing BS.
Cisco/Linksys has tried to do the same with their router settings. Not only is it pointless, but it's a serious security issue as well.

[vun]

Why would they have settings saved to the cloud and not onboard? Trying to force you to install their software on every computer you might use it on?

Because.. THE CLOUD!!! You have to have THE CLOUD!!!!
Everything is in the CLOUD!

Marketing BS.
Cisco/Linksys has tried to do the same with their router settings. Not only is it pointless, but it's a serious security issue as well.

APPS IN THE CLOUD
Even I want to punch me for saying that, even if I'm not serious

[TheQsanity]

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-orbweaver?src=pgm.81594800

If it's like most Razer products, it will develop significant faults inside of six-months and be effectively non-functional within a year.

It has a projection screen and apps?? OMFG! It's like the death stalker but better!

[HolidaySHRIMP]

I'll be so glad to get rid of my garbage g13, freaking piece of crap. I was going to pay someone to mod it for me but I'd rather just buy this orbweaver. Perfect foot print for fps gamers who have a huge mousepad and play low sens and whip the mouse. Same concept as tkl for productivity. Better positioning IMO.

[inteli722]

I'll be so glad to get rid of my garbage g13, freaking piece of crap. I was going to pay someone to mod it for me but I'd rather just buy this orbweaver. Perfect foot print for fps gamers who have a huge mousepad and play low sens and whip the mouse. Same concept as tkl for productivity. Better positioning IMO.

I like High sensitivity. Don't really see why people like Low sensitivity, but meh

[razorsharpgears]

I'll be so glad to get rid of my garbage g13, freaking piece of crap. I was going to pay someone to mod it for me but I'd rather just buy this orbweaver. Perfect foot print for fps gamers who have a huge mousepad and play low sens and whip the mouse. Same concept as tkl for productivity. Better positioning IMO.

I like High sensitivity. Don't really see why people like Low sensitivity, but meh

It is used for precise movement and accuracy in professional FPS games.

Source: Former CoD4 ProMod Team Captain/Scope

[TheQsanity]

High with cloth, low with hard.

[TheProfosist]

High with cloth, low with hard.

i use the slickest mat i can find with every sensitivity i play with

[TheQsanity]

I used to be like that, I was going to get the IceMat from Steelseries. Never did.

I used to like the Destructor and other Razer pads.

I am switching to soft pads now.

[TheProfosist]

everyone should try a C4 NGen <3 their pads

[TheQsanity]

Interesting. I was planning to get Artisan.

Do you have the copper one from amazon or the black on from their site? Mind taking a pic of it?

[HolidaySHRIMP]

I'll be so glad to get rid of my garbage g13, freaking piece of crap. I was going to pay someone to mod it for me but I'd rather just buy this orbweaver. Perfect foot print for fps gamers who have a huge mousepad and play low sens and whip the mouse. Same concept as tkl for productivity. Better positioning IMO.

I like High sensitivity. Don't really see why people like Low sensitivity, but meh

It is used for precise movement and accuracy in professional FPS games.

Source: Former CoD4 ProMod Team Captain/Scope

Pretty much this. Ask any pro fps player how many inches for a 180 or 360. I used to be high sens until I learned how to play low sens.