Author Topic: [IC] GMK sets interest check and planning (Read 292790 times)

pasph · « **Reply #1100 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 05:28:23 »

I've voted again with Purple on White as the third choice

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #1101 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:23:50 »

I believe that Ivan's current set suggestions will look like the caps that EK just got in. The blue, green, and yellow caps look really nice.

pasph · « **Reply #1102 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:41:24 »

Even Tai Hao blue, green and Yellow sets looks nice, cost only $9, are full sets and green & Yellow still have not reached 400

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1103 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:41:44 »

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 30 June 2013, 10:23:50

I believe that Ivan's current set suggestions will look like the caps that EK just got in. The blue, green, and yellow caps look really nice.

They indeed do, might have to change my votings based on those.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1104 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:41:55 »

Yes, exactly same as what EK has just added... and I had no idea about it before.

Jmneuv · « **Reply #1105 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 11:54:47 »

LechnerDE · « **Reply #1106 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 12:16:26 »

Is this a coincidence? How likely is it that they offer the exact colors Ivan wanted to do?

Kinda strange...

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1107 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 12:22:13 »

Definitely a coincidence. I am sure they had to have had the order in before the choices were made for the IC. It is only small accent keys so it should not cause a derailing for the buy. If anything it can be helpful as one can buy some of these keys now to see how they look in real life!

Jmneuv · « **Reply #1108 on:** Sun, 30 June 2013, 12:47:54 »

*grumbles*

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1109 on:** Tue, 02 July 2013, 13:08:10 »

so how's the voting so far, how many peeps have voted?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1110 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:40:17 »

Have 86 vote. There is a very clear trend... I think I will let it go another week and call it.

LechnerDE · « **Reply #1111 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:54:40 »

Good to hear that there is a clear trend, but the question is whether this actually means anything if only 86 people voted and we need 300+ orders to reach MOQ.

Can you reveal how many of these people were willing to buy a color that was not their first vote?

Jmneuv · « **Reply #1112 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:45:19 »

I'm positive people will accept the choice and show interest as long as the presentation is up to snuff.
Think that's a lesson learned from the mods buy.. the kids need pics.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #1113 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:57:37 »

Quote from: Jmneuv on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:45:19

I'm positive people will accept the choice and show interest as long as the presentation is up to snuff.
Think that's a lesson learned from the mods buy.. the kids need pics.

Most of the colors in the vote have pictures already. I linked them earlier. EK.com has Blue and Green for sale in the same shade. Ivan confirmed this.

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1114 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:58:09 »

Well I'm very happy with my mods so I look forward to alphas

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1115 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:59:45 »

Majority will take second choice, and most of second choice is the first choice or vice versa. I don't think that will be a huge issue. But yes, I would like to see a lot more votes for the best picture.

aggiejy · « **Reply #1116 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:22 »

I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day.

A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).

Edit: Tater pic:

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1117 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:11:22 »

Quote from: aggiejy on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:22

I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).

Edit: Tater pic:
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GreenAlert!! Make it happen

Photoelectric · « **Reply #1118 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:14:51 »

Quote from: Moosecraft on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:11:22

Quote from: aggiejy on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:22
I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).

Edit: Tater pic:
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GreenAlert!! Make it happen

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1119 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:25:07 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:14:51

Quote from: Moosecraft on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:11:22
Quote from: aggiejy on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:22
I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).

Edit: Tater pic:
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GreenAlert!! Make it happen

Show Image

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0

I meant with WoG mods and GoW alphas :p

Halvar · « **Reply #1120 on:** Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:58:46 »

Quote from: aggiejy on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:22

I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).

Edit: Tater pic:
(Attachment Link)

Nice, thanks for the image! I agree they'd look great for modifier/nav sets. Also together with classic Cherry black-on-white alphas.

Not a big fan of alpha keys of that color combo though.

muad · « **Reply #1121 on:** Mon, 08 July 2013, 00:45:26 »

What about a grey on grey set? I cant get the image to display for whatever reason... but clicking on the link seems to work

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1122 on:** Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:33:23 »

Quote from: muad on Mon, 08 July 2013, 00:45:26

What about a grey on grey set? I cant get the image to display for whatever reason... but clicking on the link seems to work

Show Image

you can have that one at any time for $95 + shipping from originative, just legends are black.

Halvar · « **Reply #1123 on:** Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:59:45 »

Quote from: bazemk1979 on Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:33:23

you can have that one at any time for $95 + shipping from originative, just legends are black.

... and keys are white.

But you could in fact buy a hellgrau lasered set from Cherry, that's pretty much the same for the alphas. No need for doubleshots if there's no contrast anyway.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1124 on:** Mon, 08 July 2013, 13:25:05 »

Quote from: Halvar on Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:59:45

Quote from: bazemk1979 on Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:33:23

you can have that one at any time for $95 + shipping from originative, just legends are black.
... and keys are white.

But you could in fact buy a hellgrau lasered set from Cherry, that's pretty much the same for the alphas. No need for doubleshots if there's no contrast anyway.

question is how many shades of gray does GMK offers? so far that I know its the Dark gray and the marine gray (gray/green) AKA Dolch gray colors.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1125 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 10:38:32 »

They order color from plastics supplier based on customer request color. So, pretty much any shade of ABS plastic you have seen can be had.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1126 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:05:41 »

nice to know, seems they are flexible as SP when comes to color choices.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1127 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:43:06 »

I think more so on that as they don't even have a fixed color palette and don't charge a bunch of extra money for specific colors. Really in my opinion they beat SP on every point but the MOQ.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1128 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:47:56 »

if only that MOQ was around 150-200

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1129 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 16:26:59 »

Quote from: bazemk1979 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:47:56

if only that MOQ was around 150-200

I think they would make sp go out of business with an moq of like 100?

yearn4 · « **Reply #1130 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:22:51 »

Lysol when you gonna reveal the colorway

Halvar · « **Reply #1131 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:32:33 »

They have yet to show that they can cut good legends / make good molds on their own. So far I've only seen Cherry molds and some quite coarse but acceptable Windows legends. I love their caps, but from what we've seen so far, at the moment SP still seems much more flexible, experienced and forthcoming.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1132 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:50:10 »

Quote from: Moosecraft on Tue, 09 July 2013, 16:26:59

Quote from: bazemk1979 on Tue, 09 July 2013, 15:47:56
if only that MOQ was around 150-200
I think they would make sp go out of business with an moq of like 100?

doubt that buddy, SP has things covered big time, DSA, now Cherry replica legends, just look at the custom logos they make whether the Toxic set or the raindrop. This GMK can not touch, the only thing SP cant touch GMK is the thickness of their keys, but DSA seems almost as GMK thickness and legends are looking good.

Moosecraft · « **Reply #1133 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 18:26:23 »

Well maybe what I said seems a bit ignorant but when it actually comes to using the keycaps I feel that GMK/ cherry is miles ahead of SP.

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1134 on:** Tue, 09 July 2013, 19:29:51 »

Quote from: Moosecraft on Tue, 09 July 2013, 18:26:23

Well maybe what I said seems a bit ignorant but when it actually comes to using the keycaps I feel that GMK/ cherry is miles ahead of SP.

ur right about that, they do feel better than SP. But something tells me that even if GMK dropped the MOQ, SP will stay in business with GH GB's.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1135 on:** Wed, 10 July 2013, 09:45:42 »

OK, now with 100 votes, so this is a better sample. Based on what results I have I don't think purple nav pack is going to make it. We will have white/black mods+nav set to go with the alphas so that means a full sets if buying all packs. I think I will be combining the DE/DK/NO/SF and ES/IT/PT into one larger pack as I don't think they will be making MOQs on their own and there is enough interest to still make an effort. Result looks pretty clear, but I will leave voting open for few more days while I get organized and get mock ups finished before posting it into groupbuy.

pasph · « **Reply #1136 on:** Wed, 10 July 2013, 10:13:20 »

Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 10 July 2013, 09:45:42

I think I will be combining the DE/DK/NO/SF and ES/IT/PT into one larger pack

Yesssssss

bazemk1979 · « **Reply #1137 on:** Wed, 10 July 2013, 10:46:46 »

Was clear that the purple nav pack wont happen, I still have the purple modifiers on my board mixed with black cherry DS and IDK maeby is just me but this purple color don't look flashy as other colors like red,green or yellow. Just looks mellow considering its purple, its not like a color that's right in your face type of color.

Something tells me if we have Modifier/Nav pack in black then there is no way we gonna have red,yellow,blue,green for the alpha numeric, most likely will be some sort of gray. Will be sort of close as the Dolch color combo, I know lots of international peeps would like this because this set will offer a lot for them, languages packs, ISO pack all this is great news and BTW sherry Dolch sets don't cover all of this....

I just might skip this one, give my poor wallet a break and will be warming up for the 3rd GB

bueller · « **Reply #1138 on:** Thu, 11 July 2013, 10:38:32 »

What is the likelihood of ever seeing a Ctrl key for the Caps lock position in one of these GB's? Is it a molds issue or just not enough interest?

Wraul · « **Reply #1139 on:** Thu, 11 July 2013, 13:50:56 »

Quote from: bueller on Thu, 11 July 2013, 10:38:32

What is the likelihood of ever seeing a Ctrl key for the Caps lock position in one of these GB's? Is it a molds issue or just not enough interest?

Interest might be the problem. But I'm definitively interested.

Neal · « **Reply #1140 on:** Thu, 11 July 2013, 14:51:28 »

Me as well

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1141 on:** Thu, 11 July 2013, 16:34:50 »

1.75 C row controls and 1.25, 1.5 B row caps locks will be in white/black instead of the 1x keys. Don't really see any reason to make new of 1x keys, there is tons of those unwanted from 7000's and such already.

Halvar · « **Reply #1142 on:** Fri, 12 July 2013, 01:30:13 »

I agree. 1x R4 and 1x R3 for ANSI->ISO conversion of inlikeflynn's and similar sets would be useful though. Other than beige-white, black vintage Cherry sets are mostly available in ANSI.

HongKongFui · « **Reply #1143 on:** Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:46:07 »

can't wait to see the result, can't wait 4 the GB to start... whatever people voted for me this buy will be GREAT!

reiuorw · « **Reply #1144 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 07:13:12 »

where is row B , C, D , E?

Poom · « **Reply #1145 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 07:20:27 »

Hows the distribution will be like? GMK is based in Germany right? so maybe this time people in Europe could benefits from low shipping costs?

Halvar · « **Reply #1146 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:16:47 »

The problem was VAT. Ivan didn't have to pay any sales tax nor customs duties, so it turned out to be cheaper if he sent the caps back to the EU in packages mostly too small to be taxed. If GMK sent them directly to a private customer in the EU, they would have to pay 19% tax on them.

Switzerland could maybe be a different case though because it's outside the EU. Do you have to pay customs duties or taxes when you order something from Germany?

asura · « **Reply #1147 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:22:32 »

Also GMK won't do individual shipping so its all or bust. If memory serves they may have been willing to split the parcel in two...

Poom · « **Reply #1148 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:28:05 »

nope i dont have to pay 19% VAT when buying stuff from Germany, (swiss VAT is 8%).

but I guess it is as you said, GMK ship to the US then come back here in smaller packages would be cheaper for most people in Europe.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #1149 on:** Tue, 16 July 2013, 08:29:08 »

Cherry rows go from top to bottom E,E,D,C,B,B on modern boards and what we are doing here. Old boards had F,E,D,C,B,A all with different height/shape. I might do a pack with F and A with black/beige colorway when that time comes.

Right, I don't have to pay the vat or any significant customs charge. Even though USPS dosen't have the cheapest rates around there is still quite a savings shipping from USA and avoiding taxes.

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Author Topic: [IC] GMK sets interest check and planning (Read 292790 times)