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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #850 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 14:17:43 »
But for 2nd GB we need shopped mockups on colors and let people vote on them, and let the best color combo win. Then we will see if MOQ will be met at the end, whats worst that can happen? we always have dyesub thick PBT with all those exotic legends.

The worst that can happen is that we will destroy our relationship with GMK, and I don't know how many failed GBs they will think is funny. Sure we can just use dye sub from IMSTO or wherever, but this will severely limit us in colorways (as of now at least).

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« Reply #851 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:47:35 »
But for 2nd GB we need shopped mockups on colors and let people vote on them, and let the best color combo win. Then we will see if MOQ will be met at the end, whats worst that can happen? we always have dyesub thick PBT with all those exotic legends.

The worst that can happen is that we will destroy our relationship with GMK, and I don't know how many failed GBs they will think is funny. Sure we can just use dye sub from IMSTO or wherever, but this will severely limit us in colorways (as of now at least).
we can have IC without GMK knowing, if it don't happen then GMK never knew about it. If it happens then worst case scenario is we wait for the desired colors if GMK don't have them in stock at the moment.
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« Reply #852 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 18:22:21 »
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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #853 on: Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:26:26 »
My main focus for buy2 will be on doing an alpha set to work out the language pack system. I want to do these things in smaller steps so when we go big, it will be all organized system and smooth working.

Very understandable.  Keep it manageable instead of going all out for 100's of key combinations like previous ventures.

I don't mind buying alphas because they will hopefully compliment the huge amount of Purple's currently bought.  Also if you are going to introduce foreign languages that's fine as well.  German seems popular (why not Cherry is their product line), so I can live with their weird pronunciations on the key-caps.

Keeping it small is fine because we have become so spoiled with choice and numbers of key-caps with custom logo's done in the past.  Remember that buying in smaller groups help to build up the original set you've bought in the first place.

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« Reply #854 on: Sat, 04 May 2013, 10:58:29 »
Language packs? Iso packs? mod packs? definitely curious bout this one
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« Reply #855 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:34:02 »
Also if you are going to introduce foreign languages that's fine as well.  German seems popular

Sounds too go to become true :D

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #856 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:54:12 »
GB, DE and ES specific keys should be in at the least. I think a few others had a relatively decent amount of votes but am to lazy to go looking right now. I will have this questions in poll again to be sure before we commit to any additional.

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« Reply #857 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:17:23 »
GB, DE and ES specific keys should be in at the least. I think a few others had a relatively decent amount of votes but am to lazy to go looking right now. I will have this questions in poll again to be sure before we commit to any additional.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #858 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:29:32 »
Except for the unfortunate fact that GMK does not have tooling with that legend combination, only all of them separately DK, NO, SE. Even still I think at least one of them were close to being in the running as it was.
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« Reply #859 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:39:33 »
Yes, SE had some decent votes. Just include Æ and Ø and you have your nordic pack.

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« Reply #860 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:28:01 »
Yeah it's not much difference really between the Nordic sets, just a few character on different rows. Sometimes I do have to wonder what prompted certain layouts at all, it just seems so unnecessary to make some differences when it is otherwise the same. It would be much simpler if there were less different layouts. The one that still bugs me the most personally is GB. I mean really, swap the @ and ", and move the # and ~ around WHY? All that needed to be done is switch the $ for £ for one difference that is warranted. Whatever  :rolleyes:
Also FR AZERTY... WTF? I speak French and still don't comprehend that one.
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« Reply #861 on: Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:29:56 »
Yeah it's not much difference really between the Nordic sets, just a few character on different rows. Sometimes I do have to wonder what prompted certain layouts at all, it just seems so unnecessary to make some differences when it is otherwise the same. It would be much simpler if there were less different layouts. The one that still bugs me the most personally is GB. I mean really, swap the @ and ", and move the # and ~ around WHY? All that needed to be done is switch the $ for £ for one difference that is warranted. Whatever  :rolleyes:
Also AZERTY... WTF? I speak French and still don't comprehend that one.

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« Reply #864 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:41:12 »
Yes, SE had some decent votes. Just include Æ and Ø and you have your nordic pack.

Yes SE please.

Also I don't mind paying for a nordic kit if that means people get keys that wouldn't be possible otherwise.
But I don't want keys with combined legends. I greatly prefer separate keys for the different languages.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #865 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 16:17:56 »
Gulf colours anyone?
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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #866 on: Wed, 08 May 2013, 17:46:43 »
Gulf colours anyone?

I like it. I tweaked the colors a bit. Maybe it's too much with the alphas and the mods having different legend color.



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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #868 on: Thu, 09 May 2013, 02:50:32 »
Yes SE please.

Also I don't mind paying for a nordic kit if that means people get keys that wouldn't be possible otherwise.
But I don't want keys with combined legends. I greatly prefer separate keys for the different languages.

Combined legends is (fortunately) not an option. But seriously, The persons who made SE, DK and NO layouts are just plain and simple stupid. The differences is so insignificant and illogical. Luckily the only changes are on keys seldom used, so making SE with added Æ and Ø keys wouldn't annoy too many people.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #870 on: Sun, 12 May 2013, 12:34:36 »
Gulf colours anyone?

I like it. I tweaked the colors a bit. Maybe it's too much with the alphas and the mods having different legend color.

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This looks nice

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« Reply #871 on: Sun, 12 May 2013, 12:49:17 »
DBnP [Dark Blue and Pink]

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #872 on: Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:48:10 »
The Gulf GT40 colorway is a fun concept so I decided to do a mock-up using my cherry legends template:

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #873 on: Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:50:36 »
The Gulf GT40 colorway is a fun concept so I decided to do a mock-up using my cherry legends template:

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Original jpeg file (b/c GH server image processing introduces weird compression artifacts in the red channels...) http://i5.minus.com/ikDTGVdc8Dl0E.jpg

I really like that. If only all the legends were white.
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« Reply #874 on: Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:56:22 »
I really like that. If only all the legends were white.

Sure: http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg

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« Reply #875 on: Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:59:43 »
I really like that. If only all the legends were white.

Sure: http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg

And now it's almost Miami lol.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #876 on: Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:56:28 »
Peeps around here must have a helluva time choosing colors for anything.

Seriously without a relatively safe color selection we're never going to get the MOQ needed for a GB set.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #877 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:09:42 »


I quite like this one.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #878 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:20:48 »
this one pls.  :D


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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #879 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 11:07:38 »
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I quite like this one.

This looks really nice. I prefer sets that only have one color for the legends.

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« Reply #880 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 11:26:15 »
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« Reply #881 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 11:38:16 »
The joker without purple?
How could you do that :O
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« Reply #882 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 11:54:12 »
The joker without purple?
How could you do that :O

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« Reply #883 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 13:28:02 »
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I quite like this one.

definatelly that looks appealing, same color for the legends trough out the whole layout
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« Reply #884 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 13:28:32 »
this one pls.  :D

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I would love that one to happen, but it will never reach MOQ sadly
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« Reply #885 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 14:27:42 »
imho the matrix green on black from some pages back is one of, if not the only one, that has a real chance of making the moq.

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« Reply #886 on: Tue, 14 May 2013, 23:39:20 »
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I quite like this one.
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Re: GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #887 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 00:51:34 »
Also feel free to talk about specific key size needs, languages and other topics. I will get a poll up soon, and where possible photos of the suggested choices.

you know what i'll be saying here. Please make keys to fit 1800 layouts :)

When all is said and done, this has to be the NUMBER ONE attribute to this Group Buy.  Desperately need more love for the 1800 series  8) .

Lysol, ask GMK if they have any spare moulds for the 1800 set (Delete, End, PgDn, Scroll Lock), hence no excuses to not make the keys.
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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #888 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 08:29:20 »
Yes I will want to include some alternate row for some of those keys in the nav/function pack as they are useful to cover other boards like 1800/11*00, 75% layouts and etc.

I suggested making alphas in white on red as one voting choice for next buy to make a extremely simplified start on handarbeit. I don't think it will be popular enough to offer it as it is in the photo, but nothing to stop one from building something that is very close over time assuming most of those colors will be made at some point.

I agree something on black would probably be a very safe choice. Some other suggestions have been quite nice but may be too specific taste for broad appeal to reach the kind of numbers we need to have things made. I really do wish I could get GMK to be more flexible as even dropping to 200 MOQ would make things a whole lot easier to accomplish.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #889 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 13:56:24 »
clear. on charcoal. gogo.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #890 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 14:14:39 »
the blue on graphite sets look absolutely amazing.  If it was X on black I know I probably wouldn't buy without there being CMYW on black, or RGBW on black in some fashion.
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« Reply #891 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 16:19:27 »
clear. on charcoal. gogo.

Yes, we need something with Clear legends, either on black/charcoal/dolch or white/beige.
I did try to do a mock up, but it's stupidly hard to make the clear legends look right, especially when I only have paint.net.


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« Reply #892 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:20:46 »
It's also stupidly hard to get clear legends, next plz
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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #893 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:51:01 »
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please  ;) .

Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.

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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #894 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:01:21 »
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please  ;) .

Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
That would be.. amazing..
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« Reply #895 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:39:02 »
Anything with yellow would be good :)
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« Reply #896 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:06:13 »


This would be delightful and would CERTAINLY meet the MOQ especially w/ Cherry legends.  And it would look decent with purple mods.

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« Reply #897 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:06:46 »
^would buy if it were done with cherry legends. the blue on graphite/grey maybe but i would need to see it on a format that actually gives an idea how itll look

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« Reply #898 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:31:52 »
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please  ;) .

Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.

that is a good idea Elrick. basically dolch with yellow text, so i'll call it yolch
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Re: [IC] GMK full sets interest check and planning
« Reply #899 on: Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:33:12 »
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please  ;) .

Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.

that is a good idea Elrick. basically dolch with yellow text, so i'll call it yolch
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