[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[jdcarpe]

There were quite a few SoWaRe sets made, as they were the standard keycap set for The Cheat keyboard. You can probably find one if you look around.

Besides, SoWaRe is a light blue WYSE "replica." Shouldn't "WYSE replica" use WYSE font and come from SP?

I know there are some creative minds here. Surely we don't have to rehash everything that has been done before. Let's get something unique, right?!

[Halverson]

Unique? Anything with those clear legends.

[BimboBB]

I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.

Just keep in mind that a few people might have dyschromatopsia (red/green weakness). So any greenish/redish color combo isnt really fun for them. ("ordered Miami and got blanks!  ")

[keymaster]

I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.

Just keep in mind that a few people might have dyschromatopsia (red/green weakness). So any greenish/redish color combo isnt really fun for them. ("ordered Miami and got blanks!  ")

You're absolutely right. I have red-green deficiency and that set looks obnoxious to me. The legends look way too bright in contrast to the keycap color.

THE MORE YOU KNOW: About 8% of males (of Northern European ancestry) have red-green color deficiency.

[IvanIvanovich]

Surely it will be true that no matter what colorway gets ran at any particular time, there will be those who are not fans. This is perfectly fine as one can sit out a buy and maybe the next one will be more their taste.
Unlike jelly of the month club, when a flavor you do not like comes up we won't force you to buy it anyway to be able to get the next flavor )

[Moosecraft]

I think white on light grey would be really nice, even only alphas since light gray matches most colours since it is more subtle.

[realex]

I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.


As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.


Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.

i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.

at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.

[MKULTRA]

I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.


As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.


Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.

i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.

at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.

Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get a large enough portion of the community to agree on a set, also apparently vendors agreed to not carry GMK per sherry

[HongKongFui]

at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.

This^^

And I'll be in I'm quiet sure

[baldgye]

I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.

your making me moist with anticipation

[Lighthouse1]

I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.


As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.


Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.

i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.

at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.

Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get a large enough portion of the community to agree on a set, also apparently vendors agreed to not carry GMK per sherry

I would be in for a GB..Sherryton doesn't appear to intend carrying keys for ISO etc and as a result the only way around a monopoly on him selling things (not very reliably it appears, reading the forum rather than from experience so this is just a view given I've had keys quickly from a GB in comparison) is to sign up for GBs. As a result I do wish the GB would cover a more common colourway but anything tends to look pretty enough!

[i3oilermaker]

TechKeys would get behind a GB if the set has mass appeal.  I would even be happy to help organize if I see some good ideas.

[Acanthophis]

TechKeys would get behind a GB if the set has mass appeal.  I would even be happy to help organize if I see some good ideas.

You heard the man!
Get your mockups up!

[emptythecache]

Clear on Charcoal. That's a good idea. I think we all really liked that idea. We should go with that idea.

[baldgye]

TechKeys would get behind a GB if the set has mass appeal.  I would even be happy to help organize if I see some good ideas.

As much as I admire you for saying it, I really hope this dsnt blow up in your face if what ever happens isn't backed by TK you get attacked for it.

The problem with doing extra sets for mod keys fitting dolch etc etc is people's inability to be reasonable. In the last GB people accused Ivan of basically sub'ing random keys only a few people wanted when all they wanted/needed was a base ANCI set... which blew my mind at the time.
I think for the moment it would be cool if the next GB was either a set of purple mods that would complete my numb pad, and maybe a dark set to match it? I'm personally thinking of matching the purple and DSA (?) retro GB set that TK will be selling at some point, as that would look pretty ****ing hot

[i3oilermaker]

My idea.... the godam frickin NINJA TURTLES:

[esoomenona]

Needs more red, purple, orange, and blue.

[baldgye]

I no longer admire you... lmao!

[Michael]

My idea.... the godam frickin NINJA TURTLES:

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Or Green Bay Packers....

[baldgye]

sorry for the lazy/horrible photoshop but I think this would be a pretty hot way to start of the miami set, though with white/black legends and using the purple mods;

[i3oilermaker]

how about....wait for it.....BOOM THE MU-FUKIN MATRIX

[baldgye]

how about....wait for it.....BOOM THE MU-FUKIN MATRIX

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make it domed and we are rocking

[Halvar]

I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.
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i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.
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I agree here. In addition to the "purple 2" set, make a simple original cherry-beige (and later maybe a cherry-black) modifier set that includes Moogle and Tsangan and maybe a few blanks, and you will meet huge demand due to all these vintage DS Cherry boards floating around. This is the one most important thing that I'd like to see coming out of GMK of all keycap makers. I don't like to see all those third-party moogle sets that don't fit the other keys any more. You could say this is a historical chance for all of us key cap cannibals. For full sets, you can always got to SP or someone else, but this is really something that only GMK can make.

I agree with Ivan that the "purple part 2" set should be tried, but to me it's quite improbable that 400 can be reached on this.

For a first full set I'd really like to see new, original colors instead of the always-same Dolchs, Skidatas etc. But they should be colors that everyone still likes to see one year later. Go for creative, but classy.

Something that fits the purple mods would be a good start.

[damorgue]

I fourth that.
The more niche colourways will attract less buyers. I recon white on black will yield more buyers despite of a low number of old keyboards in a particular language being found every now and then.

[Acanthophis]

http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#GE,BBJ,GEW,BBJ

[Jmneuv]

not too bad acanthopis

Vanilla Beach:

http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#BFO,YCC,YCC,BFO

[eyesmiles]

Unique? Anything with those clear legends.

Clear on Charcoal. That's a good idea. I think we all really liked that idea. We should go with that idea.

I agree with GirlShark and emptythecache, clear legends on anything would be great. Clear on Charcoal would be a safe, yet unique set that people would be interested in. With what I've seen on OTD and KBDMania, you would have people in Korea poking interest with all the leds they have on KMACs, LZ-xx, etc. It might even give me a reason to buy a Ducky Shine even though I'm not partial to mass leds on a board.

But ... first I want to see the completion of the purple colorway. GMK, iirc reading, was nice enough to get purple. We might as well make full use of it along with other unique possibilities other than the usual Dolch, etc.

[Acanthophis]

not too bad acanthopis

It's even better on a white keyboard!

[Scoliosis Jones]

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But ... first I want to see the completion of the purple colorway. GMK, iirc reading, was nice enough to get purple. We might as well make full use of it along with other unique possibilities other than the usual Dolch, etc.

The first thing that popped im my mind when i saw purp mod GB was this

http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WA,BFU,BFU,WA

probably wouldn't reach MOQ, but its awesome, on black or white case...

[keymaster]

how about....wait for it.....BOOM THE MU-FUKIN MATRIX

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make it domed and we are rocking

This! IC this sh!t!

[aggiejy]

I know most of you will find this boring, but I want a solid white set with light grey lettering similar to Apple's keyboards.  If I ever do another group buy, it'd likely be a (very small) group buy to do this.  GMK would be awesome, if the MOQ wasn't a thing.

[mashby]

I'd be into that Aggiejy.

[esoomenona]

Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.

[mashby]

Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.

I'd prefer doubleshot personally.   

[Photekq]

Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.

I'd prefer doubleshot personally.   

Congrats on 1111 posts Mashby!

[aggiejy]

Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.

Probably could, but the slight blurriness on the edges drives me crazy.  At least in most of the dyesubs I've had.  I'm a bit anal though.

[bazemk1979]

wonder how would yellow and black combo would look like in retro style. Yellow modifiers with black legends and black alphanumeric with yellow legends, wasp effect, should match black keyboards well just not sure how will it match white keyboards...

[rowdy]

wonder how would yellow and black combo would look like in retro style. Yellow modifiers with black legends and black alphanumeric with yellow legends, wasp effect, should match black keyboards well just not sure how will it match white keyboards...

I like this talk of yellow

[MKULTRA]

White doubleshots like those w/ black on gray modifiers would look so nice with CMYK.

[sth]

wonder how would yellow and black combo would look like in retro style. Yellow modifiers with black legends and black alphanumeric with yellow legends, wasp effect, should match black keyboards well just not sure how will it match white keyboards...

I like this talk of yellow

i ran an IC for dolch with yellow legends like 6 months ago and almost nobody liked the idea.

[leesofi]

skyblue on black or charcoal. 
 
image is noppo choc 87

[IvanIvanovich]

I like the idea of the green on black, like old terminal. It's fresh, has some color but is also fairly reserved and classy. I too am a fan of grey on white and have suggested it before, doing something like the colorway from Alcatel. Some of the other ideas are also nice looking and interesting but I am not sure of how wide appeal. Picking colorways that will appeal to broad taste is challenging but will be extremely important.
Clear legends on something will most certainly be done at some point as desire for nice backlight keycaps is very obvious.

[MKULTRA]

I think we should stay away from green since toxic is coming up and will have Cherry legends.

[Dianoda]

How about a TA green on light gray base set w/ light gray on crimson mods?

[CPTBadAss]

I vote TA with Lime mods!

[Wraul]

I like the idea of the green on black, like old terminal. It's fresh, has some color but is also fairly reserved and classy. I too am a fan of grey on white and have suggested it before, doing something like the colorway from Alcatel. Some of the other ideas are also nice looking and interesting but I am not sure of how wide appeal. Picking colorways that will appeal to broad taste is challenging but will be extremely important.
Clear legends on something will most certainly be done at some point as desire for nice backlight keycaps is very obvious.

<-- Joins the fanclub of grey on white.
I definitively want to see that one some day.

Also, do anyone know how well GMK keys with transparent legends work with backlighting?
The SP keys don't work all that well.
The way they are made causes the light to be uneven and the legends rather hard to read.
They are still cool though.

[Glissant]

I vote for a vote . I'd most likely buy anything that ends up being made anyway .

[Dianoda]

I vote TA with Lime mods!

I tried that, it looks a little off.  The lime is so bright it makes the TA green in the base almost feel like an after thought, and the gray used for the base and mod legends would probably need to be a bit darker for more contrast in the mods.

[CPTBadAss]

Hm, maybe the TA green instead of lime? Thanks for doing the mockup though!

[Glissant]

That set, just with gray mods etc. Do want.